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i completely agree, in the olympics i think nobody really cares much about the time but instead focus on the medals due to being an event only displayed every 4 years!
I'm sure it happens in all the longer distance events. Runners and cyclists for example staying with the pack until they pick their moment to make a break in the last few laps. But I know what you mean, you would think everyone goes all-out all the way
@@fuzzblightyear145 Yep. Only in distance is their room for some kind of strategy. Though it differs based on the level of competition. In high school I swam the 200 yard (USA) freestyle. At that age for us it was more of a controlled sprint. I was pretty fast for a high schooler and I remember that the race was usually won in the third 50 as that was the most difficult one in which to keep up speed. But that’s more strategy for yourself instead of against the competition.
One reason: super-suited record. The super suits helped A TON. Not "a little bit". They helped some swimmers, more than they helped others. Biedermann could barely get within 3 seconds of his 200m WR in a textile suit. That race is 4 times shorter. Do the math. What do you think Zhang Lin's textile best was? I guarantee it wasn't under 7:40. I couldn't listen to the rest of the video. Glad you love swimming, but pretty poor analysis overall.
Great video mate! I've been training for a couple years now and have gotten decently fast but could never imagine how much effort and training it would be to break a record... Great stuff!
Interesting video. But how can you not compare this to what's happened for a decade+ in the women's 800m? Ledecky certainly never adopted this strategy. Even in 2012 London when she was a 15-year-old underdog, and everyone expected Rebecca Adlington or Lotte Fris to win. Ledecky went out hard and didn't seem like she held anything back. And of course then a decade+ where she essentially swam her own race. Maybe that will change now if Summer McIntosh swims the 800 in Paris.
Hey thanks for the comment. I am doing a video for every swimming event at the Olympics. I will talk about ledecky in the 800 women and 1500 women videos.
Hey thanks for the comment. I am doing a video for every swimming event at the Olympics. I will talk about ledecky in the 800 women and 1500 women videos.
You are talking about a swimmer who is out in a league of her own. Ledecky had overwhelming dominance in the pool probably greater than any other swimmer in recent history. Michael Phelps may have won more medals, but his margins are quite small, and his records have already been broken. In the longer freestyle races, Ledecky can really just do her own thing and completely disregard the competitors and win.
drafting is also an issue. most famously in one of the mens olympic relay finals (cant remember whether it was the medley or freestyle) when the swimmer on the anchor leg was able to ride the wake of the olympic champion swimming in the lane next to him and managed to just get the touch at the end.
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to figure out because i always thought that going out fast would lead to a better time but back halfing is good for some races when you want to win
I think athletes could train to minimize this psychological factor while just swimming their best. That's probably the ideal strategy rather than just swim slower in order to sprint at the end. The ideal strategy would have a consistent pace that depletes the athlete at the end of the race. It's likely that this psychological differentiation isn't more significant than simply using energy inefficiently, especially if this psychological component can be minimized with training. Considering the funds of this caliber, the athletes could have mechanical bots in opposing lanes to represent competition lap times, their personal best times, WR times, overly speedy competitors at their sides at the start, and compete with these paces accordingly to hone what is the ideal strategy for themselves when racing regardless of the competition.
Holding a world record and an Olympic record are always important to athletes. Saying they don't want to is insane, of course they want to, and they will train to be able to. But if now banned equipment helped achieve that record, let alone any other performance enhancing drugs (legal or otherwise) then it is not for want of trying but rather the human incapacity to reach such speeds without external aids.
I’m not really a swimmer but more a runner. Just hopefully people don’t fully commit to the hold back until the end gig, otherwise swimming is gonna start to need pacers like running 😂😂
He did break both records in the same meet (2005 World Championships) but not in the same swim. You might be thinking of Kieren Perkins, who broke both records while swimming the 1500m at the 1994 Commonwealth Games.
@@Jivvi thanks that sounds familiar. Did he break the 800 world record or was it the commonwealth record. Either way an amazing swim to break an 800 record whilst swimming the 1500.
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i completely agree, in the olympics i think nobody really cares much about the time but instead focus on the medals due to being an event only displayed every 4 years!
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I dont think this record will be broken for a long time
I legit had no idea there was this many mind games when swimming a race lol
I'm sure it happens in all the longer distance events. Runners and cyclists for example staying with the pack until they pick their moment to make a break in the last few laps.
But I know what you mean, you would think everyone goes all-out all the way
@@fuzzblightyear145 Yep. Only in distance is their room for some kind of strategy. Though it differs based on the level of competition. In high school I swam the 200 yard (USA) freestyle. At that age for us it was more of a controlled sprint. I was pretty fast for a high schooler and I remember that the race was usually won in the third 50 as that was the most difficult one in which to keep up speed. But that’s more strategy for yourself instead of against the competition.
One reason: super-suited record. The super suits helped A TON. Not "a little bit". They helped some swimmers, more than they helped others. Biedermann could barely get within 3 seconds of his 200m WR in a textile suit. That race is 4 times shorter. Do the math. What do you think Zhang Lin's textile best was? I guarantee it wasn't under 7:40.
I couldn't listen to the rest of the video. Glad you love swimming, but pretty poor analysis overall.
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Great video mate! I've been training for a couple years now and have gotten decently fast but could never imagine how much effort and training it would be to break a record... Great stuff!
But if you’re doped (as Chinese swimmers a lot of times are) and in a super suit, is it really a world record?
If he didn't get caught or if WADA doesn't do anything about it. Then yes it is 😕
23 of the 30 Chinese swimmers who competed in the last Olympics tested positive for PEDs lol
@@SkillsNT yup, China pays WADA to cheat
@@SkillsNTThere’s no way he wasn’t drugged up.
@@startledmilk6670which means that 7 didn’t get caught.
Interesting video. But how can you not compare this to what's happened for a decade+ in the women's 800m? Ledecky certainly never adopted this strategy. Even in 2012 London when she was a 15-year-old underdog, and everyone expected Rebecca Adlington or Lotte Fris to win. Ledecky went out hard and didn't seem like she held anything back. And of course then a decade+ where she essentially swam her own race. Maybe that will change now if Summer McIntosh swims the 800 in Paris.
Hey thanks for the comment. I am doing a video for every swimming event at the Olympics. I will talk about ledecky in the 800 women and 1500 women videos.
Hey thanks for the comment. I am doing a video for every swimming event at the Olympics. I will talk about ledecky in the 800 women and 1500 women videos.
i don’t think summer is gonna swim the 800 but that would be sick
You are talking about a swimmer who is out in a league of her own. Ledecky had overwhelming dominance in the pool probably greater than any other swimmer in recent history. Michael Phelps may have won more medals, but his margins are quite small, and his records have already been broken. In the longer freestyle races, Ledecky can really just do her own thing and completely disregard the competitors and win.
drafting is also an issue. most famously in one of the mens olympic relay finals (cant remember whether it was the medley or freestyle) when the swimmer on the anchor leg was able to ride the wake of the olympic champion swimming in the lane next to him and managed to just get the touch at the end.
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to figure out because i always thought that going out fast would lead to a better time but back halfing is good for some races when you want to win
The fastest way is to go dead even splits but starting out slower and giving it all you got towards the end is easier to manage.
Incorrect , many World Records are broken at the Olympics, the 800 That Zang won yes was technically well done. Your analytical thoughts are off .
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I think athletes could train to minimize this psychological factor while just swimming their best. That's probably the ideal strategy rather than just swim slower in order to sprint at the end. The ideal strategy would have a consistent pace that depletes the athlete at the end of the race. It's likely that this psychological differentiation isn't more significant than simply using energy inefficiently, especially if this psychological component can be minimized with training.
Considering the funds of this caliber, the athletes could have mechanical bots in opposing lanes to represent competition lap times, their personal best times, WR times, overly speedy competitors at their sides at the start, and compete with these paces accordingly to hone what is the ideal strategy for themselves when racing regardless of the competition.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
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Holding a world record and an Olympic record are always important to athletes.
Saying they don't want to is insane, of course they want to, and they will train to be able to.
But if now banned equipment helped achieve that record, let alone any other performance enhancing drugs (legal or otherwise) then it is not for want of trying but rather the human incapacity to reach such speeds without external aids.
I think 7:32 is impossible for now
Wonderful intro😂
The 800m freestyle WR is just impossible to brake without supersuit.
ZHANG ON LAST 50: TMZ IS A POWERFUL DRUG.
"Swimmers DON'T Want to Break This World Record"? more like "Swimmers DON'T Want to Break This DOPING Record"? 😂
Except for Katie Ledecky who goes all out from the start without hesitation!
lol , I can't even sprint a sub 30s 50m 😂
Are you WALKING?
@@echodr4gn870 no they're swimming
I’m not really a swimmer but more a runner. Just hopefully people don’t fully commit to the hold back until the end gig, otherwise swimming is gonna start to need pacers like running 😂😂
That would look crazy 🤣
Very interesting video. Me. I will win gold in the 2024 Paris Olympics with my mono fin and Finis snorkel
Hafnaoui is coming for the record 2024
I may be mistaken but I think Hackett broke the 800m world record whilst swimming the 1500.
He did break both records in the same meet (2005 World Championships) but not in the same swim.
You might be thinking of Kieren Perkins, who broke both records while swimming the 1500m at the 1994 Commonwealth Games.
@@Jivvi thanks that sounds familiar. Did he break the 800 world record or was it the commonwealth record. Either way an amazing swim to break an 800 record whilst swimming the 1500.
Maybe a contaminant helped.
they didn’t break the record on purpose they just can’t the 800 free wr will stay forever imo
Any C-H-Y-N-A record includes a side of noodles topped with TMZ for that special "flavor".
…and breathing with every stroke…😮
Is there another way of swimming the 800? Before the turn they even breathe left, right, left and then turn. 🙃
@@SkillsNT hmm…I thought breathing every two/three strokes would make for faster swimming…..
@@cruiz7037 well they are breathing every two stroke mainly. Always to one side. Like we always recommend, but not everyone does.
nice
Same shit as distance running. Strange
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SOMEHOW THE 800 FREE RECORD IS A CHINESE SWIMMER??? TMZ??
break itt