Congrats to Mike on a great series of swings with both sets of clubs. He’s clearly been working hard on his game and it’s paying off. Much as I enjoy watching pro’s (ie most YT testers) giving the sweet-spot a hammering by flushing shot after shot - a useful test in itself, of course - I find testing by someone like Mike much more relevant & relatable to my own mid-handicap game. Good work, guys! 😊
I have access to same amount of clubs and honestly, I’ve hated having to make switched to my bag. The issue is just knowing as much as they do, they know it’s hard to find something that can be fitted perfectly, so you’re constantly trying to find the next best thing. But ultimately, finding a bag where nothing changes is the idea
@@lawbinsonsame. I feel like it takes me a year just to understand how new clubs are behaving. I think they have an easier time because they get the specs really close to previous/don't make major changes. If you have same shaft/flex/swingweight, changing out heads is much easier.
Hold up! Can I just mention how well Mikey is hitting these, and just how many tap ins there were even with the 5 irons - and blades no less. Fair play Mikey! Lovely set of shots for comparison. 🙌
I’ve found the MC 501 to be pretty forgiving especially on low strikes. More forgiving than my previous set of taylormade MCs. The weighting is just so perfectly placed on the Miuras
Just got fit for the first time ever for irons and ended up going T100 4-PW it shocked me how much better the performance was for properly fitted irons. Would love to come and see the boys next year and get a full fit done. Mikey’s swing is looking pure recently!
Not quite the home run if you consider every degree of loft would roughly equate to 2mph ball speed, with the titleist being 2 degree stronger basically performing the same with if anything a tighter SD for the muira. Would have been nice to see more of the comparable land angles & peak heights. The heel strikes in the muira and toe strikes in the T150 could be a result of the two shaft lengths?
Would love to see Angle of Descent data during these sessions given what Ian has taught us about it's importance in a fit. Otherwise top drawer as always!
Did Titleist or you guys do anything to the head weight to make up the swingweight loss from going 1/2 shorter on the length? As always a wonderful video!
I’ll give you the 5i, but from 6i down to wedge it seems to me the Miuras have a tighter gapping and just as good a stopping power. On the golf course where you really just want to hit targets those extra few yards with the 150s don’t really do anything useful.
Hi guys - loved this video thanks so much. Miura MC501 quite old now though. I was wondering if you could do a comparison video between the Miura MC502 and the Titleist T100? Selfishly, I’m trying to decide between the 2 and would love to see what performance differences you can see. Thanks so much in advance 🙏
Hi guys! So assuming someone’s irons are too long for them, the impact location tends to be where? The shot direction tends to be where? Also, as far as static measuring, do you still do wrist to floor or knuckles to floor? What length would generally constitute going down a 1/4 inch? I know static is not as important as the actual delivery, but as a general guide. Thank you!!
The extra yardage is nice, but his gapping needs work. He has 26 yards between 9 and 7 irons but only 16 between 7 and 5 irons. Wouldn’t more equal gapping be more beneficial than a few extra yards?
I’m looking at coming out of my MP18-MMC’s and these new T-Series really do look fantastic. So yeah, possibly a combo set of T-150’s and T-100’s with maybe a T-200 at the top in my 5i. But it’s about blending the set and lofts so I don’t have big gaps I suppose. I’m open to suggestion. What do you guys think.?
Im also looking to get new irons, but as much as i want to buy some this year (new callaways, new titleist etc), I’ll stay patient until the new Mizuno pros come out next february
You want the ball speed to get the height. You can bend it weak if the gap is too big, and that will get you even more height. That's what guys on tour are doing & why so many have T200 long irons in their bags now.
I’m looking at doing the same rob and have the exact same clubs. Ball strikings not been the best the last 18 months so want a bit more forgiveness. I was thinking of getting T200’s 5-8 1 degree weaker T150’s 9 and pw. Pw 1 degree weaker T100 gw This would get lofts 5 degree gap a the top end of the bag and 4-4.5 degrees in the 6-9 Everything seems like It should have good gapping then but not sure 😂😂 I love the idea of combo set but just feels like it’s a bit of guess work with the lofts
Or, why not adjust the loft on the 5 and 6 or blend. That how at 70, I still play with the TC 201 with softer shafts in the 5,6 and 7. Hard to put a Miura sweetheart out for the new “pumped up” Fling! Can’t wait to see where this goes.
I got fit and played the original T200 but wanted more feel in the short irons, plus I hated the odd flyer I would get. I got the Miura CB301 in 7-PW and ordered them to match lofts with the T200. Found no difference in ball speed and saw a bit more height and better landing angles from the Miura. Sold the T200 to my brother and got P770 in the 5-6 to combo and returned the Miura lofts to stock. No loss of distance and have added a bit more height and consistency from playing more. Purchased and waiting on the Miura KM700 to arrive but considering maybe keeping the P770 in the 5i after hearing Mike talk about hitting irons out of the rough
Fitted this week into some t150s, moving from 712 AP2s, so much easier to hit. Ended up with a shaft different to what I expected, expected AMTs, but the Projectx LZ worked out better. Goes to show, listen to your fitter.
The difference comes down to a faster trampoline face vs. the blades. The shorter club probably nets more control of strike, and the "stronger lofts" are a necessity because the club shaft deflects more because of the lower CG - look at delivered loft in the test. The low CG is adding loft in the swing, hence the lower static loft to begin with. 4000 spin in a 5 iron is starting to show the limits of his swing speed vs CG and shft deflection, what does the 3 iron spin at? Extra trajectory is nice but 7w or 4H may be a better solution - although not all golfers like thos clubs...
I’m playing Apex cf-19. I bought two other sets this year. Struggling with turf interaction. Made some big swing changes. I am looking at t150- t200- and apex pro. I have hit titleist but not the callaway yet. I love the old apex pros. My only concern is what to play with apex bro in the 5 iron. I’ll get fit in a few weeks. But excited to get my new clubs and take a break.
How tall is Mikey? Just wondering why he made the switch from standard length irons, to 1/2 inch short? There is a lot of guys that are borderline standard length, so this would be very helpful to know the reasoning. Thanks!
So I was just fit into T100 with AMT White x100 coming from Mizuno 223 in DG 120 X100. Makes sense I would hit the 7i great as they are pretty much the same. My question is what should I expect in longer irons with the reduced weight and not being able to actually try them before buying?
@@discr1709 Mizuno are a great iron but for me I can use the extra loft on the T100 to get better launch which is why I’m guessing I was fit into the AMT. Stock 7i is 188 yards but at times I hit these low spinners that travel over 200. Also getting almost 1000rpm of more spin with T100. I’m hoping for more consistency with the Titleist.
I dont have any issues with height and stopping power, if anything I want to bring my flight down a little. Currently play MC-501 w C-taper 130x... Was looking at doing a T100 / T150 Combo as my dispersion suffers a bit at the 5 and 4 iron. Is this the right route to go?
You´re talkng in the beginning a lot about hight and decent angle, that this is the decisive factor to go to Titleist over Miura. But in the analysis you´re not referring to it anymore. Would be interesting to see this data as well.
Here’s the thing, Ian and mikey Can switch irons all the time and also do at some points. Ian fits himself in to irons yet changes hos irons alot. So how can they say that you can fit someone in a hour or and a half?
Just had a fitting and was all titleist. T100 are far better then previous gen. Feel softer. Currently playing mizuno 223 and probably going to be switching to t100 3 to pw amt white x100.
Tried these yesterday. Love the feel of the t100 but didn't love the 150's at all. Honestly for some reason i found the t150 less forgiving feeling (shrug)
@@brocklambert true re bounce. The T100 is a smaller profile. Love the T150, which is essentially the AP2. Just don’t know why they gotta jack the lofts up. I don’t think players who want this club need the extra distance, especially if it causes gapping issues at the bottom of the set.
@@gaffs82 the added distance is a byproduct of the design. Adding weight near the sole increases launch and forgiveness. In return, it also adds spin, which requires less loft. If you look at his low strikes, you will see the numbers remained pretty consistent. Again those are because of the design. It’s a give and take. The reason I’m still playing AP2 718. I know my distances and like the head size and forgiveness.
Seems like his best/closest to to hole shots were with the Miura.. Miura also spun more in each iron.. he talks about gaining distance but that’s because the Titleist are stronger lofted.. I’m confused
I was fit into T-200 irons with AMT RED S300 shafts on Friday. Not what I expected going in, but we tried many combos and lie angles and the end result is what is best for me. Bye Bye 1997 Cobra Oversize..... 😂
Titleist irons are great but mikey was hitting his miuras so well! Other than carry distance, i’d say miura almost performed better until he got to the long iron.
I've even heard you guys say, it's not the head that makes the ball go higher, it's the shaft. Which is it? There's no way of know this information unless all things are considered and are equally submitted against one another in a fair setting.
I think that’s generally more true in a driver. Lots of irons seem to be doing some interesting things to increase trajectory and height. Check out the TXG Mizuno JPX 923 video for a good example of some creative ways to optimize weighting, loft, etc..
I don’t understand the infatuation with distance, isn’t it more about solid gapping, good launch/spin rates, and consistent dispersion? I’d take the Miuras due to fractionally more spin, all other things (except distance simply due to stronger loft) being equal.
For ME feel and sound are very key factors; thus it plays a major roll in my club selection. Moreover, the brand value and the history of a club maker, also play a roll, Miura is a league ALL on its own...you gents both know that VERY WELL. Looking at the numbers Mikey produced, with each club, I have see why the Miura's had staying in his bag for such a long time. I wish him the best with the new set. That said, DO NOT part with the Miura's....they are CLASS!!!!!!
If Mikey is a 2 handicapper, that puts him in the top 5.4% of male golfers, so while it is interesting to see the results he gets, he is not really representative of us great unwashed masses who make up the bulk of your audience. Or of club buyers. Seems like its time to bring back Ronnie. Somebody with an average handicap of between 14 and 17. I hit the T150 7 iron today at the PGA Superstore in Rockville, Maryland. With a Nippon NS Pro 950 GH R flex 94.5 gram shaft. My current irons are solid forged blades with traditional lofts, 34 degree 7 iron, with Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff 87.5 gram shafts. My handicap index ranges from 16.2 to 17.2. So in a way, I ran a comparison similar to Mikey's but for someone at a lower level of skill. (BTW, I am 82.) Here are the results for my best swings (two for the T150). Used the new Mizuno RB Tour X ball. Forged blade 34 degree 7 iron: ball speed 95, carry 132, total 141, launch angle 23.8, height 76, descent angle 44, spin 4842. Titleist T150 32 degree 7 iron: ball speed 100.3, carry 141, total 147, launch angle 21.9, height 75, descent angle 42.6, spin 4371 Titleist T150 32 degree 7 iron: ball speed 98.8, carry 141, total 149, launch angle 23, height 77, descent angle 43.1, spin 3998. It looks to me like the results I got confirm what you found for Mikey, that with the new T150 you are getting the same height and close to the same descent angle, less run and thus better stopping, all with the benefit of in my case almost a full club extra distance. These Titleist irons are going to be hot sellers. I also want to try the T200 irons.
Well paaaardon me! I thought I might get a somewhat more useful and informative response related to the performance of the new clubs, not some rather condescending and defensive comment about Ronnie. I really don't care what his handicap is. The point was, you have used him as a middle handicap senior reviewer closer to many of the players in your audience rather than a younger scratch handicapper with high swing speed, and I thought it would be useful to see how the new Titleist irons performed for that level of player. But if Ronnie is a 9 GHIN handicap player, that puts him in the top 29% of all male golfers, so watching him would not be all that useful. He must play a lot of golf. What is he, 64 years old? Think that was mentioned. Let's see what handicap he has when he gets to be 82 like me. Anyway, I have learned a lot about the technical aspects of clubs and shafts from Ian, and remain grateful for that, as well as being introduced to Gareth Raflewski through him. But now that TXG is gone and you are only Club Champion, if you are only interested in reviews by players with single digit handicaps, maybe it's time to pay less attention and follow others. @@clubchampionmedia
I realize you're trying to sell product, but really what's the point of comparing iron models that have different lofts/lengths/shafts etc. Unless the basic specs are the same, the test is all but useless.
We’re comparing Mike’s old irons versus a new set that he may consider. We’re going through the data to dissect the differences between the two. We know the specs are different etc, that’s why he’s considering them because we know the clubs have attributes that may be helpful to Mike moving forward. This has nothing to do with us trying to sell anything and if that’s what you think you unfortunately missed the point of the video.
Congrats to Mike on a great series of swings with both sets of clubs. He’s clearly been working hard on his game and it’s paying off.
Much as I enjoy watching pro’s (ie most YT testers) giving the sweet-spot a hammering by flushing shot after shot - a useful test in itself, of course - I find testing by someone like Mike much more relevant & relatable to my own mid-handicap game.
Good work, guys! 😊
How fun would it be to switch irons every few months???
I wish i were one of these people who wouldn’t have to relearn their swing with every change of club
Would be a nightmare getting used to new distances.
I have access to same amount of clubs and honestly, I’ve hated having to make switched to my bag. The issue is just knowing as much as they do, they know it’s hard to find something that can be fitted perfectly, so you’re constantly trying to find the next best thing. But ultimately, finding a bag where nothing changes is the idea
Or play 10 rounds in a week?
@@lawbinsonsame. I feel like it takes me a year just to understand how new clubs are behaving. I think they have an easier time because they get the specs really close to previous/don't make major changes. If you have same shaft/flex/swingweight, changing out heads is much easier.
Mikey is just a genuinely good dude. Looking forward to following his iron build journey ☺️🍻
Hold up! Can I just mention how well Mikey is hitting these, and just how many tap ins there were even with the 5 irons - and blades no less. Fair play Mikey! Lovely set of shots for comparison. 🙌
how about a miura 302 review??
I find it so interesting that Mike has unconsciously adopted many of Ian’s verbal mannerisms. Yeah yeah yeah, 100 percent!
He’s learning from the best!
I’ve found the MC 501 to be pretty forgiving especially on low strikes. More forgiving than my previous set of taylormade MCs. The weighting is just so perfectly placed on the Miuras
Just got fit for the first time ever for irons and ended up going T100 4-PW it shocked me how much better the performance was for properly fitted irons. Would love to come and see the boys next year and get a full fit done. Mikey’s swing is looking pure recently!
Not quite the home run if you consider every degree of loft would roughly equate to 2mph ball speed, with the titleist being 2 degree stronger basically performing the same with if anything a tighter SD for the muira. Would have been nice to see more of the comparable land angles & peak heights. The heel strikes in the muira and toe strikes in the T150 could be a result of the two shaft lengths?
Would love to see Angle of Descent data during these sessions given what Ian has taught us about it's importance in a fit. Otherwise top drawer as always!
Did Titleist or you guys do anything to the head weight to make up the swingweight loss from going 1/2 shorter on the length? As always a wonderful video!
Good question, want to know too.
@@Vebz0rmore than likely, Mikey built them with tip weights. Pretty normal thing in the industry
@@jazzyjay4595 i would think so. I hope titlest would adjust head weight if you order 1/2 inch shorter
@@Vebz0r Titleist didn’t do it in this case. Mikey builds all his clubs himself.
I’ll give you the 5i, but from 6i down to wedge it seems to me the Miuras have a tighter gapping and just as good a stopping power. On the golf course where you really just want to hit targets those extra few yards with the 150s don’t really do anything useful.
10:54 what about when you have so much spin that your shots are 'ballooning' upwards?
Hi guys - loved this video thanks so much. Miura MC501 quite old now though. I was wondering if you could do a comparison video between the Miura MC502 and the Titleist T100? Selfishly, I’m trying to decide between the 2 and would love to see what performance differences you can see. Thanks so much in advance 🙏
Great test! I wish I had an idea of what irons should I really use. I don't think I have had an actual proper fitting ever!
Hi guys! So assuming someone’s irons are too long for them, the impact location tends to be where? The shot direction tends to be where?
Also, as far as static measuring, do you still do wrist to floor or knuckles to floor?
What length would generally constitute going down a 1/4 inch? I know static is not as important as the actual delivery, but as a general guide.
Thank you!!
What happened to the lefty
Are the lofts the same?
Ian was saying Spin plays a less prominent role vis-a-vis Launch and Speed. Pls elaborate. Thanks.
Question for Ian. Why not combo the T100 with the T150's? Please explain, thx.
I'm wondering the same thing, no T100 love going around
The extra yardage is nice, but his gapping needs work. He has 26 yards between 9 and 7 irons but only 16 between 7 and 5 irons. Wouldn’t more equal gapping be more beneficial than a few extra yards?
Can you please post a link on the comparison video of Ian’s Titleist 150 vs PXG 0317’s?
Another top video guys. How about considering the Axioms Mikey? I’m a long time Steelfiber user and graphite is the way to go in my books.
I’m looking at coming out of my MP18-MMC’s and these new T-Series really do look fantastic. So yeah, possibly a combo set of T-150’s and T-100’s with maybe a T-200 at the top in my 5i. But it’s about blending the set and lofts so I don’t have big gaps I suppose. I’m open to suggestion. What do you guys think.?
Im also looking to get new irons, but as much as i want to buy some this year (new callaways, new titleist etc), I’ll stay patient until the new Mizuno pros come out next february
You want the ball speed to get the height. You can bend it weak if the gap is too big, and that will get you even more height. That's what guys on tour are doing & why so many have T200 long irons in their bags now.
I’m looking at doing the same rob and have the exact same clubs. Ball strikings not been the best the last 18 months so want a bit more forgiveness.
I was thinking of getting
T200’s 5-8 1 degree weaker
T150’s 9 and pw. Pw 1 degree weaker
T100 gw
This would get lofts 5 degree gap a the top end of the bag and 4-4.5 degrees in the 6-9
Everything seems like It should have good gapping then but not sure 😂😂
I love the idea of combo set but just feels like it’s a bit of guess work with the lofts
Do you play the 200 in 4/5 iron with stock lofts or weaken a degree?
Or, why not adjust the loft on the 5 and 6 or blend. That how at 70, I still play with the TC 201 with softer shafts in the 5,6 and 7.
Hard to put a Miura sweetheart out for the new “pumped up” Fling!
Can’t wait to see where this goes.
I got fit and played the original T200 but wanted more feel in the short irons, plus I hated the odd flyer I would get. I got the Miura CB301 in 7-PW and ordered them to match lofts with the T200. Found no difference in ball speed and saw a bit more height and better landing angles from the Miura. Sold the T200 to my brother and got P770 in the 5-6 to combo and returned the Miura lofts to stock. No loss of distance and have added a bit more height and consistency from playing more. Purchased and waiting on the Miura KM700 to arrive but considering maybe keeping the P770 in the 5i after hearing Mike talk about hitting irons out of the rough
Fitted this week into some t150s, moving from 712 AP2s, so much easier to hit. Ended up with a shaft different to what I expected, expected AMTs, but the Projectx LZ worked out better. Goes to show, listen to your fitter.
The difference comes down to a faster trampoline face vs. the blades. The shorter club probably nets more control of strike, and the "stronger lofts" are a necessity because the club shaft deflects more because of the lower CG - look at delivered loft in the test. The low CG is adding loft in the swing, hence the lower static loft to begin with. 4000 spin in a 5 iron is starting to show the limits of his swing speed vs CG and shft deflection, what does the 3 iron spin at? Extra trajectory is nice but 7w or 4H may be a better solution - although not all golfers like thos clubs...
Which modus are you using Mikey?
Mike compare Mizuno 223/5 with your new Titleist T-150/200s please.
I’m playing Apex cf-19. I bought two other sets this year. Struggling with turf interaction. Made some big swing changes.
I am looking at t150- t200- and apex pro. I have hit titleist but not the callaway yet. I love the old apex pros. My only concern is what to play with apex bro in the 5 iron.
I’ll get fit in a few weeks. But excited to get my new clubs and take a break.
Any adjustments to lofts with the combo set here?
How tall is Mikey? Just wondering why he made the switch from standard length irons, to 1/2 inch short? There is a lot of guys that are borderline standard length, so this would be very helpful to know the reasoning. Thanks!
My spin with the T200 7 iron was very low. Launching high, landing 45, spin was around 4000 and carrying 190. Low spin worries me a bit with the T200
Great video, keep up the reviews at swing speeds most mid-handicappers can relate to.
Where does the new models sit comparing to AP3? I keep seeing comparisons against AP2 but not AP3
T200 is closest to AP3
Would love to do a full bag fitting with Ian and Mike, Is it possible? willing to fly up to Toronto!
I would love to see comparison with Miura 302's
Maybe the t200 5i needs a tad less loft for more speed, would also increase a bit the distance gap
So I was just fit into T100 with AMT White x100 coming from Mizuno 223 in DG 120 X100. Makes sense I would hit the 7i great as they are pretty much the same. My question is what should I expect in longer irons with the reduced weight and not being able to actually try them before buying?
Why are you not continuing to use the Mizuno’s?
@@discr1709 Mizuno are a great iron but for me I can use the extra loft on the T100 to get better launch which is why I’m guessing I was fit into the AMT. Stock 7i is 188 yards but at times I hit these low spinners that travel over 200. Also getting almost 1000rpm of more spin with T100. I’m hoping for more consistency with the Titleist.
Great content as always! Thanks guys 💪🏽👏🏽
I got T100S in the bag right now. I really want the 150s for the toe strike help and that 200 4 iron. They're hot!
Enjoying Mikey hitting.
More representative of some of us viewers.
Whats your handicap?
Is there a more forgiving Muira?
I dont have any issues with height and stopping power, if anything I want to bring my flight down a little. Currently play MC-501 w C-taper 130x... Was looking at doing a T100 / T150 Combo as my dispersion suffers a bit at the 5 and 4 iron. Is this the right route to go?
You´re talkng in the beginning a lot about hight and decent angle, that this is the decisive factor to go to Titleist over Miura. But in the analysis you´re not referring to it anymore. Would be interesting to see this data as well.
I would love to see him hitting some Mizuno :)
Here’s the thing, Ian and mikey Can switch irons all the time and also do at some points. Ian fits himself in to irons yet changes hos irons alot. So how can they say that you can fit someone in a hour or and a half?
Just had a fitting and was all titleist. T100 are far better then previous gen. Feel softer. Currently playing mizuno 223 and probably going to be switching to t100 3 to pw amt white x100.
Damnit don’t say that I love my t100s and I don’t want to be tempted by the t150
I’ll take the 223s!!! Love me some Mizuno irons
@@BigDawgCAM they will be going up for sale 😂
Isn't there too big of a gap between 150 6 iron and 200 5 iron??
Why don't you try the Miura KM-700s?
Would love to compare to Mikey’s results with great big Bertha
Would love to see Mikey in the Titleists with his Modus shafts at -.25" instead of the AMTs at -.5".
What happened to the TXG channel name?
They got bought by Club Champion
Why not more t-200’s or even a full bag?
Can you guys do another review of just the king tour irons on their own? With Ian. Even if it’s a comparison video with other irons.
Miuras are absolutely the best pure enjoyment irons available. T100/T150 are the best competition irons. What a decision.
Quick question: No more TXG? Missed the change.
Can we get some U505 action on the channel please?
Tried these yesterday. Love the feel of the t100 but didn't love the 150's at all. Honestly for some reason i found the t150 less forgiving feeling (shrug)
I think about selling my miura 501s for 2 seconds last night for a split set of titliest CB/t150 and then y’all drop this on me! Reading my mind!
What you guys think about weakening the T150 by 2 degrees. I can’t get over playing a 44 degree PW
You’re manipulating the sole and bounce, and gonna add a ton of spin. May as well just get the T100
@@brocklambert true re bounce. The T100 is a smaller profile. Love the T150, which is essentially the AP2. Just don’t know why they gotta jack the lofts up. I don’t think players who want this club need the extra distance, especially if it causes gapping issues at the bottom of the set.
@@gaffs82 the added distance is a byproduct of the design. Adding weight near the sole increases launch and forgiveness. In return, it also adds spin, which requires less loft. If you look at his low strikes, you will see the numbers remained pretty consistent. Again those are because of the design. It’s a give and take. The reason I’m still playing AP2 718. I know my distances and like the head size and forgiveness.
@@brocklambert I just got the T150, two degrees week. Coming from the 2017 p770 (before TM made it hollow head). Have I messed up here?
Seems like his best/closest to to hole shots were with the Miura.. Miura also spun more in each iron.. he talks about gaining distance but that’s because the Titleist are stronger lofted.. I’m confused
I was fit into T-200 irons with AMT RED S300 shafts on Friday. Not what I expected going in, but we tried many combos and lie angles and the end result is what is best for me. Bye Bye 1997 Cobra Oversize..... 😂
Titleist irons are great but mikey was hitting his miuras so well! Other than carry distance, i’d say miura almost performed better until he got to the long iron.
Try Mikey in the Rifle flighted 105.
A new set of miura might make the same difference. Aren't his current irons 5 years old?
As a high ball hitter the Miuras have my attention
What do you guys think about spin equaling the number on the bottom + 500, ie 7 iron spinning at 7500 rpm? @trottiegolf
For the average player or a tour player??
@@clubchampionmedia Let’s say for a scratch handicap. What would be a good rule of thumb?
I've even heard you guys say, it's not the head that makes the ball go higher, it's the shaft. Which is it? There's no way of know this information unless all things are considered and are equally submitted against one another in a fair setting.
I think that’s generally more true in a driver. Lots of irons seem to be doing some interesting things to increase trajectory and height. Check out the TXG Mizuno JPX 923 video for a good example of some creative ways to optimize weighting, loft, etc..
I don’t understand the infatuation with distance, isn’t it more about solid gapping, good launch/spin rates, and consistent dispersion? I’d take the Miuras due to fractionally more spin, all other things (except distance simply due to stronger loft) being equal.
All other things weren’t equal. Offline dispersion was lower with titleist across all of the clubs and that’s the best measure of control.
If Mike is looking for more height in the 5, why not look at a hybrid?
Because it wouldn’t look good in the bag 😂 (I play a 5h, and I don’t care, it does what I want).
I hit t150 awful but i was swining bad. Will try again.
What hcp Mikey has?
Was three just moved to two I believe.
Correct. 👍🏼
Mike is overbending his right arm at the top of the swing. According to AMG Golf that is a distance killer.
TXG Drinking game, Ian changes equipment, do a shot! Ugh, Tequila at 6:00am
Tragedy if anyone ever switches from a Miura to any other brand.
Even Adam Scott is slowly replacing his Miuras with Titleist. So you’re saying he’s wrong?
For ME feel and sound are very key factors; thus it plays a major roll in my club selection. Moreover, the brand value and the history of a club maker, also play a roll, Miura is a league ALL on its own...you gents both know that VERY WELL. Looking at the numbers Mikey produced, with each club, I have see why the Miura's had staying in his bag for such a long time. I wish him the best with the new set. That said, DO NOT part with the Miura's....they are CLASS!!!!!!
You talk about angle of descent, but you’re not actively sharing that stat after each hit.
That’s totally me. I hate big long clunky 5 iron sizes. Make them small, someone!
I will never switch my Miura TC 201s lol nothing will ever satisfy me more.
10 rounds last week....wtf?
The Fletch of the golf world. Change clubs more than you do your skivvies.
Mikey probably gets into better positions the longer the clubs get.
If Mikey is a 2 handicapper, that puts him in the top 5.4% of male golfers, so while it is interesting to see the results he gets, he is not really representative of us great unwashed masses who make up the bulk of your audience. Or of club buyers. Seems like its time to bring back Ronnie. Somebody with an average handicap of between 14 and 17.
I hit the T150 7 iron today at the PGA Superstore in Rockville, Maryland. With a Nippon NS Pro 950 GH R flex 94.5 gram shaft. My current irons are solid forged blades with traditional lofts, 34 degree 7 iron, with Nippon NS Pro Zelos 8 stiff 87.5 gram shafts. My handicap index ranges from 16.2 to 17.2. So in a way, I ran a comparison similar to Mikey's but for someone at a lower level of skill. (BTW, I am 82.) Here are the results for my best swings (two for the T150). Used the new Mizuno RB Tour X ball.
Forged blade 34 degree 7 iron: ball speed 95, carry 132, total 141, launch angle 23.8, height 76, descent angle 44, spin 4842.
Titleist T150 32 degree 7 iron: ball speed 100.3, carry 141, total 147, launch angle 21.9, height 75, descent angle 42.6, spin 4371
Titleist T150 32 degree 7 iron: ball speed 98.8, carry 141, total 149, launch angle 23, height 77, descent angle 43.1, spin 3998.
It looks to me like the results I got confirm what you found for Mikey, that with the new T150 you are getting the same height and close to the same descent angle, less run and thus better stopping, all with the benefit of in my case almost a full club extra distance. These Titleist irons are going to be hot sellers. I also want to try the T200 irons.
Ronnie is an 9hcp, definitely not a 14-17hcp
Well paaaardon me! I thought I might get a somewhat more useful and informative response related to the performance of the new clubs, not some rather condescending and defensive comment about Ronnie. I really don't care what his handicap is. The point was, you have used him as a middle handicap senior reviewer closer to many of the players in your audience rather than a younger scratch handicapper with high swing speed, and I thought it would be useful to see how the new Titleist irons performed for that level of player. But if Ronnie is a 9 GHIN handicap player, that puts him in the top 29% of all male golfers, so watching him would not be all that useful. He must play a lot of golf. What is he, 64 years old? Think that was mentioned. Let's see what handicap he has when he gets to be 82 like me. Anyway, I have learned a lot about the technical aspects of clubs and shafts from Ian, and remain grateful for that, as well as being introduced to Gareth Raflewski through him. But now that TXG is gone and you are only Club Champion, if you are only interested in reviews by players with single digit handicaps, maybe it's time to pay less attention and follow others. @@clubchampionmedia
They're so close.... Play what you like
I miss the txg intro
Oh no. My poor brain
wow, so don't even get to keep the txg name. I hope you got paid a lot of money to get rid of. your brand
Dammit Mikey! 😂
Yeah, but the feel....
I realize you're trying to sell product, but really what's the point of comparing iron models that have different lofts/lengths/shafts etc. Unless the basic specs are the same, the test is all but useless.
We’re comparing Mike’s old irons versus a new set that he may consider. We’re going through the data to dissect the differences between the two. We know the specs are different etc, that’s why he’s considering them because we know the clubs have attributes that may be helpful to Mike moving forward. This has nothing to do with us trying to sell anything and if that’s what you think you unfortunately missed the point of the video.
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Ill do you a favour, you can send me the miuras.... ;)
Your problem is you can't stop tweaking. Just get better at golf.