0:25 Intro 1:22 Motion to Suppress explanation 4:50 Brief overview of STR vs SNP 12:20 Common themes in the motions 13:00 3rd Doctrine 16:20 Overbreadth 23:30 Curtilage issues 27:10 Frank’s Hearing 28:14 Cell data - exculpatory 32:00 Hippler’s response 36:45 Motion to Suppress Genetic information 50:30 Motion to Strike - over page limit 54:40 Motion to Suppress Amazon 1:01:00 Possible issues and GJ 1:09:40 Time frames Wheat markets, digital expectations of privacy data harvesting, over breadth 1:43:15 Incorporates Franks 1:50:53 Search Warrant fo WA Apt 2:06:10 Apple Account - 6 years 2:31:30 the meat of the problem lack of restriction 2:50:30 Arrest Warrant 2:59:09 AT&T First Warrant 3:16:20 Cell Phone USB 3:26:30 Google Warrant 3:36:40 Pen Trap and Trace 3:42:00 Search Warrant for his person ID & PA 3:44:50 PA Search Warrant for Elantra 3:48:30 PA Search Warrant for Parents house 4:09:25 Chat Questions
Andrea, I missed you! But am glad you had a much-deserved break and are home again. Thrilled to see you covering this. I read through all these motions last week and kept thinking "I wonder what Andrea would have to say about these?" Wish granted! Thank you and blessings. ❤
Why do we have judges and magistrates sign search warrants if they don’t ask these questions up front? Also is there a possible justification for 2016-now?
This is in response to a question from a viewer regarding Brett Payne, something I noticed very early on in the investigation and which can be confirmed on the Moscow PD website and early news releases. Brett Payne was not initially in charge of this investigation. John Lawrence was the head of the MPD Investigative Unit at the time of these crimes. Payne and Blaker were not a part of the unit. They were called in to help by Lawrence as were the Feds. and ISP. In mid December, the 30 year veteran Lawrence retired and at the same time another seasoned narcotics detective Justin Deane left. Payne was chosen to replace Lawrence. AT in a hearing stated that the MPD had been focused on another suspect but abruptly stopped and turned attention to BK. This seems to correlate with the promotion of Payne. I just like to look at the full picture and it tells me something isn't quite right here. Perhaps Lawrence wasn't a yes man and Payne is.
I joined 23andme years ago. I've always thought "I've done nothing wrong. I've got nothing to hide. ". But after what they did to Richard Allen now I'm paranoid as hell!
ALL of these genetic genealogy websites are vulnerable to hacking. I freaked out a few years ago and deleted my dna test from 2 websites. But... they already have the data so whether they still have it or not, don't know
My gut told me to never do that. My husband bought a kit and I have let it sit for seven years. He loves to tell me how his ancestry has changed every year. He was 50% Irish and now he’s 50% Portuguese, WTF.
Thank you so much for your time! Glad to see you back. I have a very novice question, I keep hearing from military that touch DNA is NOT allowed in their court systems because of how unreliable it is. Can the defense bring this up when discussing the touch DNA? Or it has nothing to with this case and different court system so there's no point in bringing it up? I am learning so much from you and as one commenter said I am learning so much that was never taught to me in history and civics class from you.
I was wondering that, too. It is slowly becoming apparent, at least to me, that the prosecutor's case has to have the info they discovered by using an illegal warrants and illegal suppoenas to make their case against BK since no evidence of his participation in either crime scene can be established, (other than a heavy-duty knife sheath the purchase of which hasn't a record of being made by him going back over a years), nor can they connect him to those victims or that house, or any potential drug issues involved with it. So, what do they actually have against him out of those gigabytes of incriminating "evidence"? What's in his Amazon/Reddit accounts...and his eccentric/but not so uncommon, but more troubling PAST. And that pesky "touch" DNA. The fact he pulled himself together with enormous discipline, focus and honest ambition doesn't seem to matter; but past drug issues, and a 1-x arrest over a "borrowed" cellphone, makes him a mass murderer w/diabolical/misogynistic, personal hatred. And the target a busy weekend house full of beautiful young women, who have "boyfriends" as overnight guests (that's if the prosecutor can prove BK stalked his victims over time, and discovered that fact?). Many cars in the parking lot, proceeding w/a "plan" even though the DD delivery person rang a bell reverberating throughout that house, and someone awake yelling out to stop the commotion over her (and a guest's?) head! So, he was so driven, and confident after demising 2 gurls upstairs, that he ran down stairs to the location of that awake female, pass by her (somewhere )NOT knowing exactly where she (DM) could be, and straight to X/E area of that 2nd floor? It's absurd, and Judge Hippler will have to lower his eyelids, allow the Prosecutor to continue on no matter how rotten the warrants/suppoenas, the improperly informed GJ, and that ridiculous PCA actually are! And that's because he hopes BK stands in front of a firing squad, whether actually believing he's guilty or not. It's too bad, BK's imagination, his writings, his work/graduate assignments, and an impossible to rip off sheath have given Wm.T/this new prosecutor a basis to get him there, and so far that's ALL that we can know about they have IMO!
@@nomadscavenger And how on earth and why on earth was the house being torn down approved?!?!?! Now a jury can never go and visit which they often ask and or are brought to by defense or prosecution. It feels so sketchy from an outsider perspective and the university seems to have a lot of pull in this case even though the house was not on university campus yet they were involved in having it torn down and doing tons of press conference when the murders did not happen on campus. I keep think there is a smoking gun, but if there was why not release it and go to trial much quicker? From the public perspective or mine at least it just doesn't make sense there is no motive that we know of that has been proved with actual evidence and one of the victims parents said from the very beginning it was a blood bath, and their child put up a hell of a fight, but the murderer or murderers left ZERO DNA? And the 8 hour time gap of waiting to call 911, but inviting friends over before the police seems extremely curious. I am hoping at trial that it will all make sense and the prosecution will release evidence the public has not seen to make Kohberger being guilty make sense, but I just don't understand how without a reasonable doubt he is guilty and he alone did this with one knife and had zero help and left zero DNA. I would love to hear what the two surviving roommates have to say in court, but are they allowed to plead the 5th?
Were these FBI search warrant officers briefed on how to conduct a search warrant? First time out? Hard to comprehend such sloppiness if indeed this was illegal- can’t wait to hear rebuttal from Hippler.
4:19:13 woo hoo! Miss Andrea read my comment yayyyy! Thank you for explaining what shouldn’t have to be explained. Americans mostly have had no idea how it all works, what the laws are, and how to protect themselves. I did not learn any of this in hs or college. I can’t thank you enough for this knowledge and wisdom!
I don't see this as condescending it's a compliment to Andrea and an experience, sadly many people don't know their legal rights. I don't believe they teach those in school so most people don't know the law unless they've studied it.
@@NicolaMaxwell thank you Nicola, that is exactly what i meant. Most schools don’t make you take a government class or anything like that unless it is an optional class, mine defff did not otherwise I would have taken it. If it wasn’t for Andrea and other lawtubers I don’t know if I would have been able to defend myself and protect my daughter and fight with my chin up in court all year last year. No losses!
@@tonystevenson26 Hey Tony. I didn’t mean to be condescending at all. I am aware that my texting tone comes off totalllly different from what I intend to put out very often, so I do apologize. Just curious, what did you think I meant?
how likely is it that BK uploaded to gedmatch? not likely. it's a small database. if anything, the only one he'd likely be directly on that falls under the umbrella of being avail to LE / genealogists working for parabon etc would be family tree dna.
I am a member on this 1 DNA website. I put my 23 and Me profile on there. I also had did a full genomic profile on Nebula Genomics. When i put this profile on the website, I didn't have the APOE gene. Under the 23 and me profile I put on the site, I did have the APOE.
@@MyrtleBeachWebAngel my ancestry results were completely off, but accurate for my parents, who are only of one ethnicity. My understanding is that the ancestry data is only accurate if you are similar to the people in the database. If you are mixed with anything that is rare in their database it completely throws off their algorithm.
Everyone has the APOE gene. In fact, every human has all the same genes. The difference is in the variations of the gene (alleles) that people have. There are myriad variants for many genes and genetic testing sites (and even doctor-ordered tests) only screen for some variants - usually the well-known/common ones. The info on the site tells you something like, “You don’t have any disease-correlated variants that were tested for, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have another variant that is not well-known or perhaps totally unique to you and may also cause an increased probability in developing the feature/disease.” Go look to see whether the variants they tested for were the same. They’ll tell you in the detailed info part of the website.
I am a grizzly and Andrea you are great! Gisala K is very much like you. You taught me a lot today, wow so much we don't know for our own family's and laws. I watch you even with Bob,you are all great!
I thought the issue with the 1st AT&T warrant is that they did not have enough evidence to justify retrieving his phone records. All they had at that point in time was that Bryan Kohberger drove a white Hyundai Elantra and, in Brett Payne's opinion, had bushy eyebrows. Is that really enough justification for retrieving phone records? The claimed IGG results were not known until after Payne retrieved his AT&T records.
(At the time he may have provided almost all of her testimony if she was actually not there, or with her boyfriend in her bedroom and only saw the back of someone leaving earlier/later?) But it was Dylan who's going to have to clarify that, and who she saw being 5'10 (in shoes) to 6'. I don't think that described anyone in particular, or possibly the neighbor guy living across the street who works in a restaurant, and likes sword tossing; but BK even "clad" all in black isn't eye-level with her. Payne may have helped her w/her testimony, but she has to answer questions about it all from AT, right? And those ?s should start with where she was on the 12th, the time arrived back at the house, and was she with someone in her bedroom! So many potential awkward?s, and knowing or having a good idea who committed at least one of the attacks; it's no wonder why she's fighting returning to ID and a courtroom in Boise. It will be interesting to see how indulgent J.Hippler will be in her case.
I know you’re considering the Zachariah Anderson case. And I know lots of creators want to fill you in on all the issues. I’d love for you to watch the whole trial and react to it, to get a set of fresh eyes on it. I think it would be especially interesting for you to do that once Natalie Wisco’s appeal is filed, so that you could go trial, sentencing, appeal, what did appeal maybe miss or what would you have done differently in the appeal, and then talk with other creators about it. Actually, I’d start with the trial that resulted in a mistrial on the 1st or 2nd day of trial. It wouldn’t have to be daily streams and you wouldn’t have to cover a whole trial day at a time (well, plus Judge Schroeder spends a lot of time sending the jury out of the room and bringing them back in the courtroom, there’s a lot of down time)
I have mixed views on this one, i saw the daughters police interview the other day, I watched the trial and I listened to the brother. At different times of course.
@@raw6460 are you talking about the video 3 weeks ago that went viral with 615,000 views? The one with the thumbnail of a little blonde girl with a high ponytail and a pink jacket, with text saying “my dad buried him alive in the backyard”? If that quote was ever in the video, it was removed because it didn’t happen, and that was an AI child in the thumbnail. I refuse to give it a view, but if that’s what you watched, I’m sure you can find the original interview of the daughter and I’d encourage you to watch it. I want Andrea to cover the case because she’s not going to stitch clips together to get views
@@Julia-543 no, the one I saw she never said what you mentioned, but she was talking innocently about what was clearly manipulative and controlling behaviours by her dad. Living with the dominator is an interesting read
Plus I don't think he buried him, I do wonder if there was a confrontation of some sort and there was a terrible accident, the cleaning of his vehicle doesn't sit right with me, he wasn't exactly a neat clean freak. Aside from the case he was found guilty of, his actions and behaviours seemed to smack of coercive control ect. Hence me being unsure. A bit like the staircase lol
Our privacy has been more than compromised ever since the Patriot Act. The entire Congress gave our privacy up to say it was to protect you! Seems like DNA is last bastion. Babies are given SS at birth! You think that’s ok? It’s coming down to simply evil v Good. Stay safe stay well.
You don’t HAVE to register your baby with a SS number. There’s no law about it. I have a friend with 3 young children and none have SS numbers bc he doesn’t trust the government and stuff .
@@enigma_-_79But, (it used to be, don't know now) it was chucked w/in days. Whoever becomes the infant's pediatrician, if there is one, does the same thing (in the past, anyway - now I don't know.. requires refrigerator).
QUESTION If Ann gets prosecution evidence suppressed, is she still able to introduce that same evidence so that she gets to spin it first? It seems to be a benefit to put your spin on even exculpatory evidence first if possible, so I was wondering if that is why Ann is trying to get as much as possible suppressed. Thank you for any info.
Yes, typically the defendant can still introduce any evidence that's been suppressed as long as they recognize it opens the door for the prosecution. But the defendant can pretty much always waive a violation of rights.
@@aburkhartlaw Thank you so much. I mentioned to someone that like with Richard Allen's trial, you never know what the judge will let in on the defense side, so you have to try to get rid of as much on the prosecution's side as possible, even if it's something you might want to use. *I worry that they don't really know what Sy Ray's testimony will be quite yet, or if he can even testify during the trial... I can't imagine spending years in jail like this if innocent. 🥀 Thank you Andrea for all that you've done. I felt like I was in the Rick Allen trial while listening to you for hours and hours. Maybe find a good Shaman in the jungles of South America to cleanse it from your soul and you'll come back like a refreshed spring bunny 💘 🐰 💫
1:09:32 " *So for the Feds to have a grand jury investigation going on, there's something else that they're looking at that Is a federal, does have a federal hook* ..." The last 3 covered (pre-)trials - - *KR; RA; BK* - - all preview an FBI presence kept at arm's length & in 2 cases squeezed out by the state. In each case it's hard to see how an FBI presence could be anything but useful assistance to a police investigation & by extension a prosecution case, if indeed finding the perpetrator is a prosecution priority. In KR & RA cases, FBI withdrawal under pressure cast suspicion on the prosecution & police. There was a sense in chat during the trial coverage that the absent FBI may know more than the local police & the court which the court willfully did not want to know. So now the mere shadow of an FBI presence in BK case will raise eyebrows, not only as to what the FBI are doing but how the local police, the prosecution & the court respond to this.
Seems to be a running narrative in these type of cases with the fbi presence that the fbi is held at arms length and they are ultimately trying to hold the local police to account and potentially are investigating corruption, and for this reason the le are cutting them out to self protect. The implication been, the fbi are the good guys who if they could just have more access, some of these seemingly obv conspiracies, corruption within le would be exposed. This seems niave to me, as the fbi could well be protecting their own interests, agents or agendas and could simply be making sure the real peeps, motives or operations don't come to light.
@@4-dman464 except your summary isn’t accurate. It is not the case that the FBI was involved in the KR investigation and withdrew. Instead, they were working on a separate case and started to question, due to the evidence in their other case, if there was a cover up or if there was evidence against KR. Judge Cannone refused to delay the trial until after the feds finished their investigation, that’s why neither side could talk to the ARCCA guys in advance
I love your takes on this stuff. I only am worried about drawing a direct correlation to info potentially implicated by SNP as being some sort of 100% correlation. Even with things like hair and eye color you’re still dealing with probability and statistics, statistics dependent upon the size of the datasets contributing to the findings. I personally have my genetic profile and it says I have most chance of having brown eyes and mine are not. I know that’s simplistic but I wish we would retain the caveat that this is statistical; it’s not discrete. Thank you for all the work you do!
Also late gen x btw. I figure those of us who remember rewinding vhs tapes before returning to blockbuster, and what it sounds like for the modem to dial up are getting where we feel disconnected from today’s society. I have a job that by its nature leads me to assume the huge majority of my life (minus health data, for now) actually isn’t as private as most and that’s a trade off I made and continue to make but I so appreciate your different perspective. I know many wouldn’t want the job that requires the trade offs I make. Maybe one day I’ll elect to step away too. But I appreciate always gathering new data.
This was a great review of the latest on what's happening in Boise. Thanks very much! I believe that they discovered BK's Reddit account when obtaining his Amazon info, discovering right away he never ordered a similar weapon, but because that account does use Amazon Web services. It's what's on that Reddit account the prosecutor might be intending to use against him, paint a picture of a psychopath and provide a motive, imo. As for the FBI activity in December, it may have been because they believed he could have committed a similar crime on a missing (demised) woman not too far from his family home in PA? I'm wondering why the ID branch of the FBI went all in on BK, and if those initially involved in the investigation were UID alumni, or honestly believed everything a 20 yr old student said to MPD, and while being informed there had been students/alumni in and out of that 3-fl.crime scene for at least 7 hrs before the 911 call? And why, given the events and the setup interior of the house, that the most important witness never heard a scream? Or bothered to get help for whoever/whatever she did hear? Whatever efforts were made were entirely focused just on BK w/o any effort at all by them, the MPD, State cops to locate, question and investigate those individuals who had been in that house with 4 demised students all am long; so what's on their Amazon accounts, cell phone calls/data prior and during that Saturday/Sunday? How could any FBI agents not be thinking of those people first? As for what was found in his Reddit account, I'm guessing it's his 'project' involving mass murders/just a 1-x murder, asking for info on how they got away with it, what it felt like, what were they thinking, etc.providing anonymity and hoping to learn the perp's mind-set, methods of evasion, but for BK's work as a teacher and grad school student project and his eventual life's work in the field of criminology. I think the prosecutor can use all that to "PROVE" he used it to commit the perfect crime(s) himself! And since there's no evidence he stalked anyone, other supposedly unnecessary and false, condemning, character assassinating details put out by the authorities early on, a veritable mine of incriminating "evidence" for that actually sparse DP case against him otherwise. Wm Thompson did everything he could to keep the falsehoods out there by getting Judge Judge to halt that survey, which revealed various sources connected to the case had lied about BK; not necessary if their case actually had a mt.of evidence against him imo. It seems for all we'll ever know it was only BK who was the only one who provided details of his whereabouts and what he did that night/early a.m., and as soon as he was arrested, brought back to ID; but only to learn later the alarming fact any info/evidence "exonerating" him that he had provided had gone strangely missing/didn't exist, including any kind of record of his sit-down interrogation at MPD, if I'm remembering AT's inquiries about that in an earlier hearing? Is it possible for the prosecutor to make his case against BK using info he can't (or won't say) how or very possibly illegally he (someone else?) obtained it? Between the DNA results and that Reddit a/c, it seems the prosecutor could be relying on a very reluctant FBI to not cooperate, but still be able to hang much of his case on those two issues, and so much else in between(just gigabytes?!)anyway? And while putting AT and her team through hoops in trying to make heads or tails of it all. Looking very much forward to your next video.
3:37:14 I think they could have gotten email and phone number simply by following him in cvs during checkout. You enter (or tell them) your phone number on pos screen at beginning of process and your email is displayed at the end of process.
When AT had her IGG expert Leah Larkin testify, one area on which she focused was developing the family tree. She emphasized the necessity of sufficient family members contributing their DNA to such sites in order to develop this tree and the difficulty of doing so w/o it. She also too stressed the amount of time involved in doing this. The question always seemed to be would LE have had enough data without BK's personal info. We know both LE and the Feds. were on fishing expeditions which leads me to believe they took unlawful liberties here to get what they wanted which is why they didn't want to reveal their work. We shall see. Thanks for the clarification of these motions.
That was my understanding also. When Sy Ray later testified about the phone records, I thought a pattern was becoming evident. What I mean is they appear to play loosely with surface concepts, but don’t have anything for support. It’s an illusion to get people to infer and accept evidence that truly isn’t there. I wonder why the motions to suppress don’t emphasize that with concise clarity.
@@2hearts1song4ever8Was she the one the FBI visited unannounced at night at her home to question her concerns and conclusions? Deliberately intimidating and unusual unless to frighten her into "reassessing" her testimony it would appear?
@@2hearts1song4ever8Thanks! I thought she may have bowed out, and changed her testimony. It was the FBI who wanted to know 'why"? Hence, a surprise nighttime visit to her home... didn't make sense at all!
Thankyou Andrea. I’m a late gen X’er too. I remember - we remember - how it was when we weren’t dancing to the tune of our devices and algorithms. I can’t describe my profound anger at the legal fraternity for not doing more to keep these now very ingrained tech issues at bay. Where was the foresight from our elders? What were they doing? It’s not like they didn’t have guiding principles… I have a relative that did an ancestry test. I want nothing to do with them. How dare they? Anyway, thanks again✌
Around 1:55:00 in the video there seems to be a mistake deliberate or otherwise from the defence as if you look at the pca they are not saying the morning after visit didn't happen, they're saying the day after that. Still strange but seemingly not accurate to say. November 14th is when they believe it connected but wasn't there. The morning return trip on the 13th is not questioned. Hope that makes sense.
I've just about lost all faith in our justice system between Delphi and Idaho, but I haven't lost faith in Bryan's innocence and his team's ability to prove it.
@@MovingAlong742 Judge Frances Gull is a very experienced and highly thought of Superior Court Justice. Not only has she been involved with the Superior Court justice for over ten years, she is Lead Supreme Court Judge for Allen County. If you didn’t like the jury’s decision on the guilty verdict, that’s no reason to talk badly of the judge or assume that she is not carrying out her duties properly, unless of course you are leader of the Superior Court Committee that oversees all judges actions.
@@enigma_-_79 If she is an example of "highly thought of" when it comes to people in power - particularly those with power over life and death --- then we got a problem, friend. A big one. Evil is in charge. Sounds like you support that.
So many adverts, just as I put my phone down settle back into listening bam! Another one they're every few minutes, cant even get through a paragraph 😮
@anitaholst7671 I generally watch the lives which has little to none, I believe the creator can change the settings for the amount of ads in a time frame, Andrea may not be aware of how frequent these were, I've never seen them this bad in her replays. It's mainly the grifters I see these many, which I usually just abandon after about 20 minutes. Andrea doesn't strike me as a grifter. I often let the ads play on the few creators I appreciate, which she is one, as they will get ad revenue. But it was painful last night, every time she paused I thought it was another ad mixed with the evry few minutes ads that did play it wasn't as much an enjoyable listening experience 😅
I was determined kohberger was guilty and I actually stopped listening to Andrea for a while because her assertions about this case annoyed me. I listened to her on the Delphi case however and I’ve realised now how problematic this case is. I’m glad Andrea has opened my eyes!
That garbage thing would seem to be only an issue if they were using specific garbage not generic garbage that could reasonably be assumed was going to be in the street at a later date.
I dont have a law background but when i heard that the fbi/LE went into the K's trash can on their property i was shocked. Have a question for you: apparently BK deposited trash in a neighbor's trash can, presumably on the neighbor's property. Would there be a privacy concern with LE grabbing stuff out of THAT trash can?
Did anyone else see the stream Lana posted on Truth & Transparency about the footnote in one of the motions where the judge gave an example of citing page numbers? Where it references LE was more comfortable with 2011-2013 date range for the Hyundai??!!
Thanks, for the reminder - two occupants of that earlier model "Elantra", and an ID registration, and not PA -since Bryan wasn't on their radar yet....MPD was looking for a vehicle they knew was local and ID registered is how it came off to me then. Made everything after look very suspicious and desperate IMO. (I believe at the x it was area FBI who were more "comfortable" after reviewing those available videos...?) Now those (or "the" video) has it so blurred in the front view of it hard to tell what yr./anyone inside, and by the way, that "walking home" video of KG/MM/guy has been doctored, too. They are still in their 1st, original form when presented on TH-cam, so I'm wondering if BK's defense will be able to present/compare - and ask a DP jury to think if the powers that be fiddled w/that, maybe they did with any and all of 'em, including that miserable take on an "Elantra", public announcements of what that MPD was initially telling the public to be on guard for while hiding, ignoring the burnt out one at the same time (I mean, wrecked and BURNED)? Then, there's BK's amazingly spotless one and very useable when MPD/State cops land on him.
Hi Andrea! Glad you made it home safe! I have learned so much, thru ur very detailed content. Thank you so much for being one of the very few honest, dependable, heart warming individuals, that I was privileged enough to get to know 😊 Much love sent to you Andrea ❤
So Payne is the one with the hard on for Bryan? Imo. 6 YEARS worth of DATA. 2016, hows that relevant? That's overboard, intrusive and problematic for me. Wtf. That's creepy.
@@M.K.386Right! Except we really can't know 1 way or the other, except for what they have already told us about! It's looking like their case is a nothing burger, w/o the info they gleaned illegally, the few cells of DNA on that sheath, and however they are interpreting the cellphone data, and that very fuzzy video of a changeable "Elantra". How is it possible the prosecution won't have to account for how the investigation didn't include one person going in and out at the scene of the crimes for at least 7 hrs before the police arrived, if they can avoid it, has to be a FIRST as far as I know, and if televised one amazing missing pc.of the puzzle the jurors will be forced to overlook? They were all cleared w/in 24 or less hrs....and NOTHING under 40 fingernails of the victims and nothing under the other untold # of guests ON SCENE? And w/close personal, sharp edged weapon attacks mins.long having happened, how could that be POSSIBLE?
Hi Andrea, I know you are busy but “The Murder Sheet” released an episode on Tuesday called The Odinist Theory. I would love to hear your opinions and feedback if you get the opportunity to listen to it.
The trash was collected at the street, it was collection day. The defendant was observed putting trash out in his neighbors’ bin, not the one at his house.
That's been explained. They are recycle bins that are communal, meaning several houses use the same bins. And why ARE they collecting trash in Pennsylvania? If he was their suspect from early on they could have simply asked him to come in, answer a few questions and ask for his dna sample. That's the way a real investigation works, not this silly sneaking around nonsense.
not hard at all to find you, if you have a second cousin on a database. that's a very simple "find." however the question is what database you're on. ancestry and 23 won't work with parabon etc.
I’m probably naive so would be grateful if someone could explain… but what’s the issue with law enforcement being able to use these databases to help catch perpetrators? I currently don’t have an issue with them accessing my family tree as I’ve not committed a crime. Although, the Delphi case did lower my trust in law enforcement in the US, I live in the UK where I don’t think it’s as corrupt
They have DNA from a crime scene but don't know whose it is because they run it through their criminal database, and the DNA provides no hits, so now they are stuck with faceless DNA. They may have a suspect list though, but the DNA is faceless. They submit DNA to these IGG places so that they can create a family tree, look at the surnames on them and match those surnames to names on the suspect list to put a name to the DNA.
On it's face there isn't necessarily an issue, at least not to the extent that they could have evidence thrown out. The only avenue I can see is if the FBI potentially violated the databases TOS. It has been speculated that the FBI may have accessed profiles that had not 'opted in' to LE searching, or databases that do not allow LE searches, but there isn't evidence that they broke the DOJ policy, and if they did it would come back to violating the privacy of the database users, not the defendant. BK can't really assert the violated rights of others to suppress evidence. The IGG wasn't used in any of the warrants, so personally I can't see the judge throwing out evidence, even if the FBI breached the DOJ policy, or the database terms and conditions. "IGG should never be used as PC for an arrest or search. It should be treated akin to an anonymous tip in legal terms-guiding investigations but not serving as the basis for PC."
Judge Judge stated in his order regarding discovery of the IGG: "Additionally, like in Hartman and Bortree, it is plausible that Kohberger may use the IGG information obtained in discovery to challenge the admissibility of other evidence. While such challenge seems futile since the IGG information was not used to obtain the search warrant for Kohberger’s DNA and will not be presented at trial by the State..."
Do you believe there’s an objective view of how the law should be applied? That doesn’t exist. There’s only argument. if you want objectivity, law is not the right subject for you.
Do you actually understand what it means to analyse? That two things can be true at the same time? If you want to stay in an echo chamber I'm sure your bias will lead you in the right direction to confirm it. Personally I like to hear different perceptions and interpretations, it's great for us critical thinkers. 😉
@@raw6460 I certainly do understand. I’m an attorney. I can tell by your comments that you are not. So I’ll provide a more fulsome explanation-if not for your benefit, then for other potential readers. Andrea thoroughly explains what the defense is arguing or might argue, and what the potential outcomes would be based on her consideration of how existing case law, statutory interpretation, federal and state constitutions, and public policy considerations would be applied to the facts of a particular case. To do that, she *necessarily* has to consider what the prosecution would likely argue to challenge the defense’s arguments. Implicitly, therefore, she *is* giving you ‘both sides’, albeit from the viewpoint of a defense attorney. What else do you expect her to do? Would a current or former prosecutor explain it differently? Possibly, in the sense that they might see an argument that Andrea doesn’t see. But we can assume the prosecution believes in the strength of their factual evidence by virtue of the fact that they’ve used it to charge the defendant. That should be self-evident. When making a decision on the motions, the judge considers the arguments of both parties and bases his decision on his interpretation of the law being argued. A judge’s decision may side wholly with one party, may agree with portions of arguments made by each side, or may disagree with both and decide based on his own separate interpretation. While a judge is duty bound to apply legal precedent, different judges will interpret that precedent in different ways depending on the facts of the case. Where there is no legal precedent and/or where the court is dealing with novel legal issues, it’s hard to predict what the court will do. The best analysis in such circumstances is to look at what other courts have done and consider the potential ramifications of the decision on future cases. So, as I said earlier, there is no objective (“this absolutely will happen”) view of how the law would be applied and it does all come down to argument. For non-lawyers who are interested in law and not simply innocence versus guilt, they soon find that law is messier and more complicated than they ever imagined. If you want to find out how a prosecutor would argue the case, go find one and leave Andrea alone. Or perhaps you would be best served by staying away from the law and sticking to forums where lay people have already determined the defendant’s guilt.
@@asomething2293 I wasn't replying to you , I was replying to the OP. And no I'm not a lay person, I'm not an attorney but had to study a particular area of law for the work I was doing, and I don't mean a 10 week basic study. I agree with your initial response. I personally enjoy Andrea's analyses, your pushing on an open door with me. Heads up...Just because a post is below yours doesn't mean it's replying to yours, if you're unsure I find asking soon clears that up. 😉
07:36 see I'm the opposite. I figure what's the point of knowing if they can't prevent it or cure it. Then you have to worry about false positives and it just being on your mind on something that may or may not happen. Someone could have that gene and nothing ever happens so all they did was create stress for themselves for decades
A subpoena can be directly issued by an investigator and does not require a showing of probable cause. A warrant has to be supported by probable cause and the basis for the request is reviewed by a judge or magistrate before being issued.
So here is question - for whatever reason tips/ phone or whatever a POI is on radar of LE - however LE has DNA …. I think I would rather police check prior to an arrest - if no match then u don’t make arrest. I seem to recall they were waiting on arrest until they could confirm dna- woukd have been devasting to POi and LE if h make arrest- name comes out and then dna doesn’t match ….
I really hope you look at Zachariah Andersons case, it is a terrible injustice. He is innocent. #FreeZachariahAnderson 🤟🏼❤ Thanks for all you do Andrea!🐟
😂 innocent? 🤣 Leaving 2 baby twins alone in the house, unintended in the middle of the night, while spying with his daughter on his ex girlfriend❗😳🙄 He put tracking devices in her car❗😳 DNA of a victim found in his car that he cleaned with bleech as well as taking backseat out❗😳 Did that DNA flew into his car just like that, out of the blue❓☝️WHY NOT anybodyelses DNA❓🤦🙄🤔🤷🧐 & WHY did he motion to his daughter to in courtroom, to "zip it", when she was witnessing❓It's all on vid❗❗❗🙄🤷
@@helengren9349 actually not. A spec of a males dna found but you cannot attribute it to any one person. The spec was so tiny (smaller than the head of a pin), a body covered in blood rolled into a mat yet no other blood found in the car for the victim. He would have been covered, his boot area would have been covered. Did you look at the condition of his boot area? Not clean. So there should have been vast amounts of dna of the victim found. His vehicle also not found on one camera to and from the crime scene and the alternative route would not have allowed for him to get there and back to his home in the time they established the victim was killed. Believe his ex lol! I find it more believeable she and that other female could have killed the victim. Funny how any dna or or the fingerprints collected from the phone and wallet found in the deepfreeze were not tested by the police.
@hazelhadley-britt6396 They showed pic's of ZA's car with bleached carpet! 😳WHY bleach it? WHY taking out backseat?🤔 WHY taking his daughter in the middle of the night checking on his ex? ( & ☝️ doing a very SICK thing, as leaving 2 unintended baby boys at home❗🤦🙄 WHY burning his clothes? 🤔 WHY putting a track er in her car? 🤦🙄 WHY motioning daughter to "zip it" in front of cameras? 🤔🤦🙄Only sick person does such things..
@@katievb9but making one w/o acknowledging plenty of evidence he was set up, or at least a possibility of that because of using illegal methods and repeated character assassinating innuendo (and falsehoods revealed in that survey), has to make some sort of impression, no?
This is a personal story with a genetic theme. I knew that I was at high risk for developing life-ending and debilitating conditions. My insurance, which protects my privacy due to HIPAA, would not pay for genetic tests. Hence I went through a "public" genealogical testing service with a data base to get the answers that I desperately needed. I chose knowledge possibly sacrificing my privacy in the process. At this point, I have no regrets but then I am not in Bryan Kohberger's situation. Regarding the innocence or guilt of BK, I am trying to remain unbiased, but admittedly I am leaning towards guilt. With my lack of confidence in the ethics and intellect of LE and prosecutors, my thoughts are confused and conflicted. I hope that Andrea Burkhart continues to cover this case, I need clarity.
Andrea, when you say all these folks find ways around to trample our privacy (when the Constitutions definitely clearly say otherwise, and us poor little people are just “stuck,” wow really? You need to get in touch with people who will walk you through exactly where it says our liberty 🗽 s not to be trampled no matter who it is, the courts, the cops, the corporations, the government, the legislature,etc. call Krisanne Hall, call David Jose, call Jarrin Jackson. It is so disappointing to hear someone say we are stuck in their tyranny when our law of the land is we are a Constitutional Republic, we are not under a king, it is so disappointing!
I'm so sorry that you don't see the problem and that Andrea IS working on this. She is ONE person getting info out to thousands. She assists other attorneys , she helps them with their arguments, she worked like a dog to expose what happened in the Richard Allen case. She also writes letters, files motions, and has a regular job specializing as an appellate layer (smarter than the average bear.) The government IS trampling on our rights. and you trying to shame her to suppress her freedom to think so and say so. It's is your right also, but.. I'm so disappointed in you. Oh the irony. 🙈🙊🙉
@ shame her? By telling her the truth? Many people are becoming very active in asserting our God given rights and winning when the authorities are taking liberty from us. Andrea is probably working from a bar association view, which is all statutes and case law where court, not our right of liberty and the court is king. That is not the way. Us little people need to learn the law then we do not need attorneys who charge astronomical fees for pleas and so on. You and a lot of people think lawyers and courts are king, they aren’t the people have the power and perfect right to instruct our servants in the government. Don’t like my way of telling the truth, i am so sorry, not sorry!
@ regarding warrants it is the law that 5 elements be present if a warrant is to be legal, no less, al must be included. George Washington: “ let there be no usurpation for though in this one instance may be an instrument for good, it os the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed” James Otis Jr. “It is of utmost consequence that we boldly oppose the least infraction of our Charter and our rights.” I al only saying that I believe Anne Taylor knows Bryans Constitutional rights were ignored by Law enforcement, the federal and local governments. We do have remedy for this. I hope Anne Taylor is part of a good fight, because we absolutely need fierce warriors for our liberty. The founder put their lives and estates on the line for it.
@@Dawn388 So silly. Have you ever just been exasperated at a situation and used hyperbole? Look that up. Andres just came from weeks and weeks of watching a man's rights being trampled in a brutal, unfair trial. She stood in line, booked hotels, took so many notes I felt like I was there... then I watch the News, Hidden True Crime, DTS, the MSM... they have a completely different story. Do you know they tazed him, locked him in a dog cage, destroyed his mind to wear he was eating feces and drinking his urine never he didn't know if he'd get water or food again. The judge literally would not let the defence do their job and let the state torture a man not convicted. She's exhausted and weary... and here you are. 😐 Judge not lest thou be judged.
@@raw6460And a conclusion or surmising BK was a patsey? If anyone would please NOTE a significant reason to set him up could be because it was discovered upfront ALL was local, and UID CONNECTED...drugs?/but personal and immediate and students/alumni involved: 1st off- an 'in progress" very important acquisition involving many $millions and the entire UID system, and 2nd, already (Covid,etc) diminished enrollment...3rd a 'final warning" to a very $necessary and influential fraternity/sorority at the center of it all. This is something that is verboten to mention...but AT et al must have been aware of what was happening at the time, and now J Hippler could be connected in some way to some of it, since we know the President of UID was allowed to write and publish a book confidently naming BK as the perp, and Judge Judge deciding to retire knowing he could be discovered as being so, too imo.
Looks like Sy Ray has recused himself from the trial, now that he has seen the cell phone data. One channel has mentioned that he may not even be working with the defense anymore. Could be why AT wants the cell phone data thrown out.
Yea I think he doesn’t want to testify for the defense bc he thinks BK is guilty now. The cell evidence clearly doesn’t help the defense or AT wouldn’t want it out.
There is no proof to any of this other than the Goncalves spreading misinformation and disinformation to certain youtube channels like they always do and have done since the beginning of this case. With regard to this case Mr.Ray would not be able to discuss in detail anything openly or publicly with anyone let alone that family, so they have no grounds to say anything. But they want so desperately to make Bryan look guilty or bad in someway. A week or so ago Kerri confirmed Sy was working on Bryan’s case on their youtube page in a recent comment section, that info is out there and a fact, so the fact speaks for itself. Edit:As far as The Garrett Discovery.. the emails used in that were fake.. that much is evident with what was listed recently. So using that as any proof of Sy Ray “leaving” is absurd. Like I said misinformation and disinformation. To add: The second At&T warrant is NOT being asked for suppression. Also the First ATT warrant is under a Frank’s Hearing and currently being asked for Suppression, however, one has to read the Conclusion of it at the bottom.. “this warrant lacked probable cause as written, given its heavy reliance on conclusions reached by LE WITHOUT DETAILS necessary for the magistrate to draw its own conclusions, and because the warrantOMITTED EXCULPATORY info that put into question the reliability of facts upon which it relies, and finally because the affidavit and warrant do not specify what data could be searched and seized (4th Amendment) Just because it is a suppression hearing does not mean Sy Ray would not also be called to testify and potentially talk about info that what was omitted. ( ie whereabouts.. )
Andrea, I know you’re a firm woman, but pls find a way to condense these videos. The content is great, and you are lovely in every way, but it isn’t practical for many of us. I have experience in devising public presentations and know it can be a challenge to cut or revise to keep to a scheduled time, but it is important in the long run. Do the legal overviews in two parts? See what portions most of the audience cares about and cull accordingly? I know you’re not concerned about popularity (and we love that about you), but it would be better in longrun.
I love the long form. I just listen to it in spurts after it posts if I don’t have time all at once or for the live. If you go to your TH-cam History, it’ll take you to where you left off. (I suspect you know this, but I thought I’d be thorough.) So, you can make up your own 2, 3, or 4 part versions of the video rather than having her split it up. It’ll be perfectly tailored to your own schedule! 😊 And someone always does the timestamps that she pins at the top of the comments of you want to jump.
When discussing complex cases and the legal analysis you have to do long form. If you condense it you are missing a lot. There are a lot of creators on TH-cam that give overviews of a case but I don’t subscribe to those. I want the law and the reasoning behind the court’s decisions.
The law is a pure pure ass in america. Three quarters of the country voted for a felon to be President what a joke. Then drop charges against trump. But exspec their citizen to obey the law.
Like and share to get Andrea and all makeup and coffee and all the good things for anyone who was there for us during Delphi! Truth and transparency, our other happy friend lawyer lee, Bob Moda and wife sry if spelt wrong but all the line sitters deserve this and all future ones aired like the Delhi trial out to its max I hope to be a part of a movement like this and will but I’m against the Hartford and its an ERISA claim
Like and share to get Andrea and all makeup and coffee and all the good things for anyone who was there for us during Delphi! Truth and transparency, our other happy friend lawyer lee, Bob Moda and wife sry if spelt wrong but all the line sitters deserve this and all future ones aired like the Delhi trial out to its max I hope to be a part of a movement like this and will but I’m against the Hartford and its an ERISA claim but u loook so beautiful write down which makeup u did in what order and make a book lol please I’ll edit it for u and be a side hustler for u if u ever need one but I’m in the Midwest idk where u guys are lol
0:25 Intro
1:22 Motion to Suppress explanation
4:50 Brief overview of STR vs SNP
12:20 Common themes in the motions
13:00 3rd Doctrine
16:20 Overbreadth
23:30 Curtilage issues
27:10 Frank’s Hearing
28:14 Cell data - exculpatory
32:00 Hippler’s response
36:45 Motion to Suppress Genetic information
50:30 Motion to Strike - over page limit
54:40 Motion to Suppress Amazon
1:01:00 Possible issues and GJ
1:09:40 Time frames
Wheat markets, digital expectations of privacy data harvesting, over breadth
1:43:15 Incorporates Franks
1:50:53 Search Warrant fo WA Apt
2:06:10 Apple Account - 6 years
2:31:30 the meat of the problem lack of restriction
2:50:30 Arrest Warrant
2:59:09 AT&T First Warrant
3:16:20 Cell Phone USB
3:26:30 Google Warrant
3:36:40 Pen Trap and Trace
3:42:00 Search Warrant for his person ID & PA
3:44:50 PA Search Warrant for Elantra
3:48:30 PA Search Warrant for Parents house
4:09:25 Chat Questions
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Andrea, I missed you! But am glad you had a much-deserved break and are home again. Thrilled to see you covering this. I read through all these motions last week and kept thinking "I wonder what Andrea would have to say about these?" Wish granted! Thank you and blessings. ❤
Hi Andrea, I'm on the replay crew for this one. Thank you so much for your exceptional point of view, and for taking the time to share it with us.
Thanks, Andrea! This was truly fascinating! I just learned so much!
Thank you. I’m a Grizzly True Crime Member. So glad you’re covering this case.
Your content is so thorough. Appreciate your dedication.
Me too 🐻
Why do we have judges and magistrates sign search warrants if they don’t ask these questions up front? Also is there a possible justification for 2016-now?
Very informative! Thank you Andrea and God bless you.
This is in response to a question from a viewer regarding Brett Payne, something I noticed very early on in the investigation and which can be confirmed on the Moscow PD website and early news releases. Brett Payne was not initially in charge of this investigation. John Lawrence was the head of the MPD Investigative Unit at the time of these crimes. Payne and Blaker were not a part of the unit. They were called in to help by Lawrence as were the Feds. and ISP. In mid December, the 30 year veteran Lawrence retired and at the same time another seasoned narcotics detective Justin Deane left. Payne was chosen to replace Lawrence. AT in a hearing stated that the MPD had been focused on another suspect but abruptly stopped and turned attention to BK. This seems to correlate with the promotion of Payne. I just like to look at the full picture and it tells me something isn't quite right here. Perhaps Lawrence wasn't a yes man and Payne is.
I think this is very likely - Brent Kopaka? A student/alum/?
@@nomadscavengerwas thinking the same… it was Brent kopacka and then they SWATed him… newbie is going to say yes
I always look forward to your idaho updates! Thanks so much!!!
legalpdf AI fixes this. Bryan Kohberger files evidence suppression motions.
Can't wait to hear ur analysis on this case! Love what u bring to the table ❤
Thank you so much Andrea for your time, knowledge and insights about all things BK. You are great and I appreciate you!
I joined 23andme years ago. I've always thought "I've done nothing wrong. I've got nothing to hide. ". But after what they did to Richard Allen now I'm paranoid as hell!
23andme doesn't work with parabon or other agencies that will use genetic genealogy. however they could always get hacked again etc.
ALL of these genetic genealogy websites are vulnerable to hacking. I freaked out a few years ago and deleted my dna test from 2 websites. But... they already have the data so whether they still have it or not, don't know
@Seashellsbytheseashore21 thanks!
My gut told me to never do that. My husband bought a kit and I have let it sit for seven years. He loves to tell me how his ancestry has changed every year. He was 50% Irish and now he’s 50% Portuguese, WTF.
He is a confessed killer
So grateful for your expert insight 💡
Andrea really appreciates the support, thank you so much!❤❤ very kind of you.
Thank you so much for your time! Glad to see you back. I have a very novice question, I keep hearing from military that touch DNA is NOT allowed in their court systems because of how unreliable it is. Can the defense bring this up when discussing the touch DNA? Or it has nothing to with this case and different court system so there's no point in bringing it up? I am learning so much from you and as one commenter said I am learning so much that was never taught to me in history and civics class from you.
I was wondering that, too. It is slowly becoming apparent, at least to me, that the prosecutor's case has to have the info they discovered by using an illegal warrants and illegal suppoenas to make their case against BK since no evidence of his participation in either crime scene can be established, (other than a heavy-duty knife sheath the purchase of which hasn't a record of being made by him going back over a years), nor can they connect him to those victims or that house, or any potential drug issues involved with it. So, what do they actually have against him out of those gigabytes of incriminating "evidence"? What's in his Amazon/Reddit accounts...and his eccentric/but not so uncommon, but more troubling PAST. And that pesky "touch" DNA. The fact he pulled himself together with enormous discipline, focus and honest ambition doesn't seem to matter; but past drug issues, and a 1-x arrest over a "borrowed" cellphone, makes him a mass murderer w/diabolical/misogynistic, personal hatred. And the target a busy weekend house full of beautiful young women, who have "boyfriends" as overnight guests (that's if the prosecutor can prove BK stalked his victims over time, and discovered that fact?). Many cars in the parking lot, proceeding w/a "plan" even though the DD delivery person rang a bell reverberating throughout that house, and someone awake yelling out to stop the commotion over her (and a guest's?) head! So, he was so driven, and confident after demising 2 gurls upstairs, that he ran down stairs to the location of that awake female, pass by her (somewhere )NOT knowing exactly where she (DM) could be, and straight to X/E area of that 2nd floor? It's absurd, and Judge Hippler will have to lower his eyelids, allow the Prosecutor to continue on no matter how rotten the warrants/suppoenas, the improperly informed GJ, and that ridiculous PCA actually are! And that's because he hopes BK stands in front of a firing squad, whether actually believing he's guilty or not. It's too bad, BK's imagination, his writings, his work/graduate assignments, and an impossible to rip off sheath have given Wm.T/this new prosecutor a basis to get him there, and so far that's ALL that we can know about they have IMO!
@@nomadscavenger And how on earth and why on earth was the house being torn down approved?!?!?! Now a jury can never go and visit which they often ask and or are brought to by defense or prosecution. It feels so sketchy from an outsider perspective and the university seems to have a lot of pull in this case even though the house was not on university campus yet they were involved in having it torn down and doing tons of press conference when the murders did not happen on campus. I keep think there is a smoking gun, but if there was why not release it and go to trial much quicker? From the public perspective or mine at least it just doesn't make sense there is no motive that we know of that has been proved with actual evidence and one of the victims parents said from the very beginning it was a blood bath, and their child put up a hell of a fight, but the murderer or murderers left ZERO DNA? And the 8 hour time gap of waiting to call 911, but inviting friends over before the police seems extremely curious. I am hoping at trial that it will all make sense and the prosecution will release evidence the public has not seen to make Kohberger being guilty make sense, but I just don't understand how without a reasonable doubt he is guilty and he alone did this with one knife and had zero help and left zero DNA. I would love to hear what the two surviving roommates have to say in court, but are they allowed to plead the 5th?
Absolutely love this analysis. It is very current.
Important information. Thank you, Andrea!
Thank you for explaining all of this ❤
I love listening to you, your content is so fascinating.
I am finally going to hear more about this horrible crime. Thank you.
PA police said why they had to get him in the middle of the night, per the federal fugitive law.
They didn't want that and didn't need that.
When I had work in Pullman Moscow area, my phone went in/ out of service regularly!!!!!
Dang! Even through the middle of town??
@@scott5322Usually on the drive between Moscow and Pullman. Also on the outskirts, like going to the Airport.
Were these FBI search warrant officers briefed on how to conduct a search warrant? First time out? Hard to comprehend such sloppiness if indeed this was illegal- can’t wait to hear rebuttal from Hippler.
4:19:13 woo hoo! Miss Andrea read my comment yayyyy! Thank you for explaining what shouldn’t have to be explained. Americans mostly have had no idea how it all works, what the laws are, and how to protect themselves. I did not learn any of this in hs or college. I can’t thank you enough for this knowledge and wisdom!
Please don't be condescending
I don't see this as condescending it's a compliment to Andrea and an experience, sadly many people don't know their legal rights. I don't believe they teach those in school so most people don't know the law unless they've studied it.
@@NicolaMaxwell thank you Nicola, that is exactly what i meant. Most schools don’t make you take a government class or anything like that unless it is an optional class, mine defff did not otherwise I would have taken it. If it wasn’t for Andrea and other lawtubers I don’t know if I would have been able to defend myself and protect my daughter and fight with my chin up in court all year last year. No losses!
@@tonystevenson26 Hey Tony. I didn’t mean to be condescending at all. I am aware that my texting tone comes off totalllly different from what I intend to put out very often, so I do apologize. Just curious, what did you think I meant?
@@LisaLeeLeeBluedon't pay Tony any mind he's one that's looking to be offended
If BK's DNA was on GEDmatch, there would be no need for a family tree. It would be a 100% match.
how likely is it that BK uploaded to gedmatch? not likely. it's a small database. if anything, the only one he'd likely be directly on that falls under the umbrella of being avail to LE / genealogists working for parabon etc would be family tree dna.
I love historical cases! It would be great for you to cover some more of those!
I am a member on this 1 DNA website. I put my 23 and Me profile on there. I also had did a full genomic profile on Nebula Genomics. When i put this profile on the website, I didn't have the APOE gene. Under the 23 and me profile I put on the site, I did have the APOE.
They aren't as accurate as they would have us believe...
@@MyrtleBeachWebAngel my ancestry results were completely off, but accurate for my parents, who are only of one ethnicity. My understanding is that the ancestry data is only accurate if you are similar to the people in the database. If you are mixed with anything that is rare in their database it completely throws off their algorithm.
@sleepmore8587 That makes perfect sense.
Everyone has the APOE gene. In fact, every human has all the same genes. The difference is in the variations of the gene (alleles) that people have. There are myriad variants for many genes and genetic testing sites (and even doctor-ordered tests) only screen for some variants - usually the well-known/common ones. The info on the site tells you something like, “You don’t have any disease-correlated variants that were tested for, but that doesn’t mean you don’t have another variant that is not well-known or perhaps totally unique to you and may also cause an increased probability in developing the feature/disease.” Go look to see whether the variants they tested for were the same. They’ll tell you in the detailed info part of the website.
I am a grizzly and Andrea you are great! Gisala K is very much like you. You taught me a lot today, wow so much we don't know for our own family's and laws. I watch you even with Bob,you are all great!
We love G and the Grizzly community here!!❤
I thought the issue with the 1st AT&T warrant is that they did not have enough evidence to justify retrieving his phone records. All they had at that point in time was that Bryan Kohberger drove a white Hyundai Elantra and, in Brett Payne's opinion, had bushy eyebrows. Is that really enough justification for retrieving phone records? The claimed IGG results were not known until after Payne retrieved his AT&T records.
(At the time he may have provided almost all of her testimony if she was actually not there, or with her boyfriend in her bedroom and only saw the back of someone leaving earlier/later?) But it was Dylan who's going to have to clarify that, and who she saw being 5'10 (in shoes) to 6'. I don't think that described anyone in particular, or possibly the neighbor guy living across the street who works in a restaurant, and likes sword tossing; but BK even "clad" all in black isn't eye-level with her. Payne may have helped her w/her testimony, but she has to answer questions about it all from AT, right? And those ?s should start with where she was on the 12th, the time arrived back at the house, and was she with someone in her bedroom! So many potential awkward?s, and knowing or having a good idea who committed at least one of the attacks; it's no wonder why she's fighting returning to ID and a courtroom in Boise. It will be interesting to see how indulgent J.Hippler will be in her case.
I know you’re considering the Zachariah Anderson case. And I know lots of creators want to fill you in on all the issues. I’d love for you to watch the whole trial and react to it, to get a set of fresh eyes on it. I think it would be especially interesting for you to do that once Natalie Wisco’s appeal is filed, so that you could go trial, sentencing, appeal, what did appeal maybe miss or what would you have done differently in the appeal, and then talk with other creators about it. Actually, I’d start with the trial that resulted in a mistrial on the 1st or 2nd day of trial. It wouldn’t have to be daily streams and you wouldn’t have to cover a whole trial day at a time (well, plus Judge Schroeder spends a lot of time sending the jury out of the room and bringing them back in the courtroom, there’s a lot of down time)
Free Zachariah Anderson 🤟🏼❤ you're awesome Julia!
I have mixed views on this one, i saw the daughters police interview the other day, I watched the trial and I listened to the brother. At different times of course.
@@raw6460 are you talking about the video 3 weeks ago that went viral with 615,000 views? The one with the thumbnail of a little blonde girl with a high ponytail and a pink jacket, with text saying “my dad buried him alive in the backyard”? If that quote was ever in the video, it was removed because it didn’t happen, and that was an AI child in the thumbnail. I refuse to give it a view, but if that’s what you watched, I’m sure you can find the original interview of the daughter and I’d encourage you to watch it. I want Andrea to cover the case because she’s not going to stitch clips together to get views
@@Julia-543 no, the one I saw she never said what you mentioned, but she was talking innocently about what was clearly manipulative and controlling behaviours by her dad. Living with the dominator is an interesting read
Plus I don't think he buried him, I do wonder if there was a confrontation of some sort and there was a terrible accident, the cleaning of his vehicle doesn't sit right with me, he wasn't exactly a neat clean freak. Aside from the case he was found guilty of, his actions and behaviours seemed to smack of coercive control ect. Hence me being unsure. A bit like the staircase lol
Our privacy has been more than compromised ever since the Patriot Act. The entire Congress gave our privacy up to say it was to protect you! Seems like DNA is last bastion. Babies are given SS at birth! You think that’s ok? It’s coming down to simply evil v Good. Stay safe stay well.
Patriot Act was instilled and one of the main reasons for the inside job 911.
You don’t HAVE to register your baby with a SS number. There’s no law about it. I have a friend with 3 young children and none have SS numbers bc he doesn’t trust the government and stuff .
@@devonwright21
But babies do have a blood test within 48 hours of being born, therefore the hospital has every baby’s DNA.
@@enigma_-_79But, (it used to be, don't know now) it was chucked w/in days. Whoever becomes the infant's pediatrician, if there is one, does the same thing (in the past, anyway - now I don't know.. requires refrigerator).
This is my first Andrea video. Subscribed now, thank you for your coverage.
I really love the whales/fish in the background.
Aw welcome to the crew!!❤🐟
Paranas done by her friend. I think she has a link somewhere of the artwork done by her friend.
QUESTION If Ann gets prosecution evidence suppressed, is she still able to introduce that same evidence so that she gets to spin it first? It seems to be a benefit to put your spin on even exculpatory evidence first if possible, so I was wondering if that is why Ann is trying to get as much as possible suppressed. Thank you for any info.
Yes, typically the defendant can still introduce any evidence that's been suppressed as long as they recognize it opens the door for the prosecution. But the defendant can pretty much always waive a violation of rights.
@@aburkhartlaw Thank you so much. I mentioned to someone that like with Richard Allen's trial, you never know what the judge will let in on the defense side, so you have to try to get rid of as much on the prosecution's side as possible, even if it's something you might want to use. *I worry that they don't really know what Sy Ray's testimony will be quite yet, or if he can even testify during the trial... I can't imagine spending years in jail like this if innocent. 🥀 Thank you Andrea for all that you've done. I felt like I was in the Rick Allen trial while listening to you for hours and hours. Maybe find a good Shaman in the jungles of South America to cleanse it from your soul and you'll come back like a refreshed spring bunny 💘 🐰 💫
1:09:32 " *So for the Feds to have a grand jury investigation going on, there's something else that they're looking at that Is a federal, does have a federal hook* ..." The last 3 covered (pre-)trials - - *KR; RA; BK* - - all preview an FBI presence kept at arm's length & in 2 cases squeezed out by the state. In each case it's hard to see how an FBI presence could be anything but useful assistance to a police investigation & by extension a prosecution case, if indeed finding the perpetrator is a prosecution priority.
In KR & RA cases, FBI withdrawal under pressure cast suspicion on the prosecution & police. There was a sense in chat during the trial coverage that the absent FBI may know more than the local police & the court which the court willfully did not want to know.
So now the mere shadow of an FBI presence in BK case will raise eyebrows, not only as to what the FBI are doing but how the local police, the prosecution & the court respond to this.
Seems to be a running narrative in these type of cases with the fbi presence that the fbi is held at arms length and they are ultimately trying to hold the local police to account and potentially are investigating corruption, and for this reason the le are cutting them out to self protect. The implication been, the fbi are the good guys who if they could just have more access, some of these seemingly obv conspiracies, corruption within le would be exposed. This seems niave to me, as the fbi could well be protecting their own interests, agents or agendas and could simply be making sure the real peeps, motives or operations don't come to light.
Crossing State lines in commission of a felony is a fed. crime.
@@4-dman464 except your summary isn’t accurate. It is not the case that the FBI was involved in the KR investigation and withdrew. Instead, they were working on a separate case and started to question, due to the evidence in their other case, if there was a cover up or if there was evidence against KR. Judge Cannone refused to delay the trial until after the feds finished their investigation, that’s why neither side could talk to the ARCCA guys in advance
@@Julia-543 Thanks for clarifying, Julia.
I love your takes on this stuff. I only am worried about drawing a direct correlation to info potentially implicated by SNP as being some sort of 100% correlation. Even with things like hair and eye color you’re still dealing with probability and statistics, statistics dependent upon the size of the datasets contributing to the findings.
I personally have my genetic profile and it says I have most chance of having brown eyes and mine are not. I know that’s simplistic but I wish we would retain the caveat that this is statistical; it’s not discrete.
Thank you for all the work you do!
Also late gen x btw. I figure those of us who remember rewinding vhs tapes before returning to blockbuster, and what it sounds like for the modem to dial up are getting where we feel disconnected from today’s society. I have a job that by its nature leads me to assume the huge majority of my life (minus health data, for now) actually isn’t as private as most and that’s a trade off I made and continue to make but I so appreciate your different perspective. I know many wouldn’t want the job that requires the trade offs I make. Maybe one day I’ll elect to step away too. But I appreciate always gathering new data.
You are smart and pretty. Thank you for you.
This was a great review of the latest on what's happening in Boise. Thanks very much! I believe that they discovered BK's Reddit account when obtaining his Amazon info, discovering right away he never ordered a similar weapon, but because that account does use Amazon Web services. It's what's on that Reddit account the prosecutor might be intending to use against him, paint a picture of a psychopath and provide a motive, imo. As for the FBI activity in December, it may have been because they believed he could have committed a similar crime on a missing (demised) woman not too far from his family home in PA?
I'm wondering why the ID branch of the FBI went all in on BK, and if those initially involved in the investigation were UID alumni, or honestly believed everything a 20 yr old student said to MPD, and while being informed there had been students/alumni in and out of that 3-fl.crime scene for at least 7 hrs before the 911 call? And why, given the events and the setup interior of the house, that the most important witness never heard a scream? Or bothered to get help for whoever/whatever she did hear? Whatever efforts were made were entirely focused just on BK w/o any effort at all by them, the MPD, State cops to locate, question and investigate those individuals who had been in that house with 4 demised students all am long; so what's on their Amazon accounts, cell phone calls/data prior and during that Saturday/Sunday? How could any FBI agents not be thinking of those people first?
As for what was found in his Reddit account, I'm guessing it's his 'project' involving mass murders/just a 1-x murder, asking for info on how they got away with it, what it felt like, what were they thinking, etc.providing anonymity and hoping to learn the perp's mind-set, methods of evasion, but for BK's work as a teacher and grad school student project and his eventual life's work in the field of criminology. I think the prosecutor can use all that to "PROVE" he used it to commit the perfect crime(s) himself! And since there's no evidence he stalked anyone, other supposedly unnecessary and false, condemning, character assassinating details put out by the authorities early on, a veritable mine of incriminating "evidence" for that actually sparse DP case against him otherwise. Wm Thompson did everything he could to keep the falsehoods out there by getting Judge Judge to halt that survey, which revealed various sources connected to the case had lied about BK; not necessary if their case actually had a mt.of evidence against him imo.
It seems for all we'll ever know it was only BK who was the only one who provided details of his whereabouts and what he did that night/early a.m., and as soon as he was arrested, brought back to ID; but only to learn later the alarming fact any info/evidence "exonerating" him that he had provided had gone strangely missing/didn't exist, including any kind of record of his sit-down interrogation at MPD, if I'm remembering AT's inquiries about that in an earlier hearing?
Is it possible for the prosecutor to make his case against BK using info he can't (or won't say) how or very possibly illegally he (someone else?) obtained it? Between the DNA results and that Reddit a/c, it seems the prosecutor could be relying on a very reluctant FBI to not cooperate, but still be able to hang much of his case on those two issues, and so much else in between(just gigabytes?!)anyway? And while putting AT and her team through hoops in trying to make heads or tails of it all.
Looking very much forward to your next video.
Ahhh, you did the hard work for us....Thanks!!! Love ya! 💖💖
Glad you're home safe!!
1:15:49 1000% spot on!
This really is alarming
3:37:14 I think they could have gotten email and phone number simply by following him in cvs during checkout. You enter (or tell them) your phone number on pos screen at beginning of process and your email is displayed at the end of process.
Thank you!!!
3:08:37 😂😂😂😂 give it up. His DNA was on the knife sheath. The icing on the cake. I get it. You can't lose your fan base 👌🏼
So sorry I missed live. I've been waiting for your analysis of Koh motions. ❤
When AT had her IGG expert Leah Larkin testify, one area on which she focused was developing the family tree. She emphasized the necessity of sufficient family members contributing their DNA to such sites in order to develop this tree and the difficulty of doing so w/o it. She also too stressed the amount of time involved in doing this. The question always seemed to be would LE have had enough data without BK's personal info. We know both LE and the Feds. were on fishing expeditions which leads me to believe they took unlawful liberties here to get what they wanted which is why they didn't want to reveal their work. We shall see. Thanks for the clarification of these motions.
That was my understanding also. When Sy Ray later testified about the phone records, I thought a pattern was becoming evident. What I mean is they appear to play loosely with surface concepts, but don’t have anything for support.
It’s an illusion to get people to infer and accept evidence that truly isn’t there.
I wonder why the motions to suppress don’t emphasize that with concise clarity.
@@2hearts1song4ever8Was she the one the FBI visited unannounced at night at her home to question her concerns and conclusions? Deliberately intimidating and unusual unless to frighten her into "reassessing" her testimony it would appear?
@@nomadscavenger I don’t recall Larkin getting visited. I think the one you are talking about was Gabriella Vargas.
@@2hearts1song4ever8Thanks! I thought she may have bowed out, and changed her testimony. It was the FBI who wanted to know 'why"? Hence, a surprise nighttime visit to her home... didn't make sense at all!
Thankyou Andrea.
I’m a late gen X’er too. I remember - we remember - how it was when we weren’t dancing to the tune of our devices and algorithms.
I can’t describe my profound anger at the legal fraternity for not doing more to keep these now very ingrained tech issues at bay. Where was the foresight from our elders? What were they doing? It’s not like they didn’t have guiding principles…
I have a relative that did an ancestry test. I want nothing to do with them. How dare they?
Anyway, thanks again✌
Around 1:55:00 in the video there seems to be a mistake deliberate or otherwise from the defence as if you look at the pca they are not saying the morning after visit didn't happen, they're saying the day after that. Still strange but seemingly not accurate to say.
November 14th is when they believe it connected but wasn't there. The morning return trip on the 13th is not questioned.
Hope that makes sense.
I've just about lost all faith in our justice system between Delphi and Idaho, but I haven't lost faith in Bryan's innocence and his team's ability to prove it.
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If only cases could be tried in youtube comment sections 🙄
Same. Here's hoping Bryan gets a fair pre-trial from here on out and if this goes to trial... a real one of those, too and not the Judge Gull version.
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Judge Frances Gull is a very experienced and highly thought of Superior Court Justice. Not only has she been involved with the Superior Court justice for over ten years, she is Lead Supreme Court Judge for Allen County.
If you didn’t like the jury’s decision on the guilty verdict, that’s no reason to talk badly of the judge or assume that she is not carrying out her duties properly, unless of course you are leader of the Superior Court Committee that oversees all judges actions.
@@enigma_-_79 If she is an example of "highly thought of" when it comes to people in power - particularly those with power over life and death --- then we got a problem, friend. A big one. Evil is in charge. Sounds like you support that.
So many adverts, just as I put my phone down settle back into listening bam! Another one they're every few minutes, cant even get through a paragraph 😮
I use youtube so much for learning and pleasure i decided no ads for $13 a month was worth it. And it is!
@anitaholst7671 I generally watch the lives which has little to none, I believe the creator can change the settings for the amount of ads in a time frame, Andrea may not be aware of how frequent these were, I've never seen them this bad in her replays. It's mainly the grifters I see these many, which I usually just abandon after about 20 minutes.
Andrea doesn't strike me as a grifter.
I often let the ads play on the few creators I appreciate, which she is one, as they will get ad revenue. But it was painful last night, every time she paused I thought it was another ad mixed with the evry few minutes ads that did play it wasn't as much an enjoyable listening experience 😅
I was determined kohberger was guilty and I actually stopped listening to Andrea for a while because her assertions about this case annoyed me. I listened to her on the Delphi case however and I’ve realised now how problematic this case is. I’m glad Andrea has opened my eyes!
Also, have fun in South America. I know we had some pretty good internet when I lived in Peru some 20 years ago.
Officer safety is the biggest catch all bs in law
That garbage thing would seem to be only an issue if they were using specific garbage not generic garbage that could reasonably be assumed was going to be in the street at a later date.
But would it be if collected by a private contractor from a gated community?
I dont have a law background but when i heard that the fbi/LE went into the K's trash can on their property i was shocked.
Have a question for you: apparently BK deposited trash in a neighbor's trash can, presumably on the neighbor's property. Would there be a privacy concern with LE grabbing stuff out of THAT trash can?
You need an intermediary to check your evidence based on your warrant.
His guilty as sin. He's also not getting the evidence thrown out
Is there a cure for a search that oveebroad? Is it really suppression of all the iPhone data for example or can the court limit what’s allowed?
That depends on what the judge decides is allowed under the constitution and state statue.
Did anyone else see the stream Lana posted on Truth & Transparency about the footnote in one of the motions where the judge gave an example of citing page numbers? Where it references LE was more comfortable with 2011-2013 date range for the Hyundai??!!
Lana is a troubled grifter.Wake up
Thanks, for the reminder - two occupants of that earlier model "Elantra", and an ID registration, and not PA -since Bryan wasn't on their radar yet....MPD was looking for a vehicle they knew was local and ID registered is how it came off to me then. Made everything after look very suspicious and desperate IMO. (I believe at the x it was area FBI who were more "comfortable" after reviewing those available videos...?) Now those (or "the" video) has it so blurred in the front view of it hard to tell what yr./anyone inside, and by the way, that "walking home" video of KG/MM/guy has been doctored, too. They are still in their 1st, original form when presented on TH-cam, so I'm wondering if BK's defense will be able to present/compare - and ask a DP jury to think if the powers that be fiddled w/that, maybe they did with any and all of 'em, including that miserable take on an "Elantra", public announcements of what that MPD was initially telling the public to be on guard for while hiding, ignoring the burnt out one at the same time (I mean, wrecked and BURNED)? Then, there's BK's amazingly spotless one and very useable when MPD/State cops land on him.
It's a shame they didn't look into him because he had the traffic stop.
Are cyber crimes something a federal grand jury would be part of?
For the Amazon warrant maybe they went to December to see if there were any returns.
Hi Andrea!
Glad you made it home safe!
I have learned so much, thru ur very detailed content.
Thank you so much for being one of the very few honest, dependable, heart warming individuals, that I was privileged enough to get to know 😊
Much love sent to you Andrea ❤
So Payne is the one with the hard on for Bryan? Imo. 6 YEARS worth of DATA. 2016, hows that relevant? That's overboard, intrusive and problematic for me. Wtf. That's creepy.
dummy
I wonder if they are exploring other mrdrs that could be connected to him
@raw6460 they already did that and found NOTHING.
@@M.K.386Right! Except we really can't know 1 way or the other, except for what they have already told us about! It's looking like their case is a nothing burger, w/o the info they gleaned illegally, the few cells of DNA on that sheath, and however they are interpreting the cellphone data, and that very fuzzy video of a changeable "Elantra". How is it possible the prosecution won't have to account for how the investigation didn't include one person going in and out at the scene of the crimes for at least 7 hrs before the police arrived, if they can avoid it, has to be a FIRST as far as I know, and if televised one amazing missing pc.of the puzzle the jurors will be forced to overlook? They were all cleared w/in 24 or less hrs....and NOTHING under 40 fingernails of the victims and nothing under the other untold # of guests ON SCENE? And w/close personal, sharp edged weapon attacks mins.long having happened, how could that be POSSIBLE?
Hi Andrea, I know you are busy but “The Murder Sheet” released an episode on Tuesday called The Odinist Theory. I would love to hear your opinions and feedback if you get the opportunity to listen to it.
The trash was collected at the street, it was collection day. The defendant was observed putting trash out in his neighbors’ bin, not the one at his house.
That's been explained. They are recycle bins that are communal, meaning several houses use the same bins. And why ARE they collecting trash in Pennsylvania? If he was their suspect from early on they could have simply asked him to come in, answer a few questions and ask for his dna sample. That's the way a real investigation works, not this silly sneaking around nonsense.
SO?
The Baby Garnet case DNA sounds similar to this guy's case.
A second cousin of mine is also on the same database as me, so I suppose they would have tracked me down if they tried fairly hard.
not hard at all to find you, if you have a second cousin on a database. that's a very simple "find." however the question is what database you're on. ancestry and 23 won't work with parabon etc.
Hard to believe Charlie adelson couldn’t get venue change - then again he may get new trial because of the conflict debacle
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For liberty sake read “Over Ruled” by SCOTUS Gorsuch.
I’m probably naive so would be grateful if someone could explain… but what’s the issue with law enforcement being able to use these databases to help catch perpetrators? I currently don’t have an issue with them accessing my family tree as I’ve not committed a crime. Although, the Delphi case did lower my trust in law enforcement in the US, I live in the UK where I don’t think it’s as corrupt
They have DNA from a crime scene but don't know whose it is because they run it through their criminal database, and the DNA provides no hits, so now they are stuck with faceless DNA. They may have a suspect list though, but the DNA is faceless. They submit DNA to these IGG places so that they can create a family tree, look at the surnames on them and match those surnames to names on the suspect list to put a name to the DNA.
On it's face there isn't necessarily an issue, at least not to the extent that they could have evidence thrown out. The only avenue I can see is if the FBI potentially violated the databases TOS.
It has been speculated that the FBI may have accessed profiles that had not 'opted in' to LE searching, or databases that do not allow LE searches, but there isn't evidence that they broke the DOJ policy, and if they did it would come back to violating the privacy of the database users, not the defendant. BK can't really assert the violated rights of others to suppress evidence.
The IGG wasn't used in any of the warrants, so personally I can't see the judge throwing out evidence, even if the FBI breached the DOJ policy, or the database terms and conditions.
"IGG should never be used as PC for an arrest or search. It should be treated akin to an anonymous tip in legal terms-guiding investigations but not serving as the basis for PC."
Judge Judge stated in his order regarding discovery of the IGG:
"Additionally, like in Hartman and Bortree, it is plausible that Kohberger may use the
IGG information obtained in discovery to challenge the admissibility of other evidence. While
such challenge seems futile since the IGG information was not used to obtain the search
warrant for Kohberger’s DNA and will not be presented at trial by the State..."
You mean defence legal analysis because that’s pretty much what you’re doing Andrea you have to admit it
Do you believe there’s an objective view of how the law should be applied? That doesn’t exist. There’s only argument. if you want objectivity, law is not the right subject for you.
Do you actually understand what it means to analyse?
That two things can be true at the same time?
If you want to stay in an echo chamber I'm sure your bias will lead you in the right direction to confirm it.
Personally I like to hear different perceptions and interpretations, it's great for us critical thinkers. 😉
@@raw6460 I certainly do understand. I’m an attorney. I can tell by your comments that you are not. So I’ll provide a more fulsome explanation-if not for your benefit, then for other potential readers.
Andrea thoroughly explains what the defense is arguing or might argue, and what the potential outcomes would be based on her consideration of how existing case law, statutory interpretation, federal and state constitutions, and public policy considerations would be applied to the facts of a particular case. To do that, she *necessarily* has to consider what the prosecution would likely argue to challenge the defense’s arguments. Implicitly, therefore, she *is* giving you ‘both sides’, albeit from the viewpoint of a defense attorney.
What else do you expect her to do? Would a current or former prosecutor explain it differently? Possibly, in the sense that they might see an argument that Andrea doesn’t see. But we can assume the prosecution believes in the strength of their factual evidence by virtue of the fact that they’ve used it to charge the defendant. That should be self-evident.
When making a decision on the motions, the judge considers the arguments of both parties and bases his decision on his interpretation of the law being argued. A judge’s decision may side wholly with one party, may agree with portions of arguments made by each side, or may disagree with both and decide based on his own separate interpretation. While a judge is duty bound to apply legal precedent, different judges will interpret that precedent in different ways depending on the facts of the case. Where there is no legal precedent and/or where the court is dealing with novel legal issues, it’s hard to predict what the court will do. The best analysis in such circumstances is to look at what other courts have done and consider the potential ramifications of the decision on future cases.
So, as I said earlier, there is no objective (“this absolutely will happen”) view of how the law would be applied and it does all come down to argument.
For non-lawyers who are interested in law and not simply innocence versus guilt, they soon find that law is messier and more complicated than they ever imagined. If you want to find out how a prosecutor would argue the case, go find one and leave Andrea alone. Or perhaps you would be best served by staying away from the law and sticking to forums where lay people have already determined the defendant’s guilt.
Should the defense’s position not also be analysed? Do you take issue with defendants having a fair trial? I don’t see why people are so offended.
@@asomething2293 I wasn't replying to you , I was replying to the OP.
And no I'm not a lay person, I'm not an attorney but had to study a particular area of law for the work I was doing, and I don't mean a 10 week basic study.
I agree with your initial response.
I personally enjoy Andrea's analyses, your pushing on an open door with me.
Heads up...Just because a post is below yours doesn't mean it's replying to yours, if you're unsure I find asking soon clears that up. 😉
07:36 see I'm the opposite. I figure what's the point of knowing if they can't prevent it or cure it. Then you have to worry about false positives and it just being on your mind on something that may or may not happen. Someone could have that gene and nothing ever happens so all they did was create stress for themselves for decades
What is the difference between a warrant and a subpoena?
A subpoena is for documents and testimony, while a warrant is for access to an establishment (home-work) or apprehension of a person.
@ thank you!
A subpoena can be directly issued by an investigator and does not require a showing of probable cause. A warrant has to be supported by probable cause and the basis for the request is reviewed by a judge or magistrate before being issued.
Catch up crew. Damn i missed you lol
@tonystevenson26 sorry I kinda don't like to follow the masses. I'm not a sheep. Leave me be in my yesterday
@@tonystevenson26 it is today for me.
I’m definitely buying the book now “Duped” thank you!
waste your money
@guruofendtimes819 thanks Guru of end times- is money even a thing in end times? Please bestow end times wisdom as I obviously need it
@ what should I be spending my money on? For instance- help!
So here is question - for whatever reason tips/ phone or whatever a POI is on radar of LE - however LE has DNA …. I think I would rather police check prior to an arrest - if no match then u don’t make arrest. I seem to recall they were waiting on arrest until they could confirm dna- woukd have been devasting to POi and LE if h make arrest- name comes out and then dna doesn’t match ….
Yadayadayada. "Legal" considerations vs common sense. It won't work here.
What does curtilage mean?
look it up
Curtilage: is land which forms part and parcel with the house. Usually it is the area of land within which the house sits, or to which it is attached
The dictionary is your friend in these circumstances.
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Hi fishies 🐟 🐠 🐡
I really hope you look at Zachariah Andersons case, it is a terrible injustice. He is innocent. #FreeZachariahAnderson 🤟🏼❤
Thanks for all you do Andrea!🐟
😂 innocent? 🤣 Leaving 2 baby twins alone in the house, unintended in the middle of the night, while spying with his daughter on his ex girlfriend❗😳🙄 He put tracking devices in her car❗😳 DNA of a victim found in his car that he cleaned with bleech as well as taking backseat out❗😳 Did that DNA flew into his car just like that, out of the blue❓☝️WHY NOT anybodyelses DNA❓🤦🙄🤔🤷🧐 & WHY did he motion to his daughter to in courtroom, to "zip it", when she was witnessing❓It's all on vid❗❗❗🙄🤷
😂 DNA of his victim found in his car❗HOW did it end up there? Flew on it's own❓❓❓🤣
@@helengren9349 actually not. A spec of a males dna found but you cannot attribute it to any one person. The spec was so tiny (smaller than the head of a pin), a body covered in blood rolled into a mat yet no other blood found in the car for the victim. He would have been covered, his boot area would have been covered. Did you look at the condition of his boot area? Not clean. So there should have been vast amounts of dna of the victim found.
His vehicle also not found on one camera to and from the crime scene and the alternative route would not have allowed for him to get there and back to his home in the time they established the victim was killed.
Believe his ex lol! I find it more believeable she and that other female could have killed the victim. Funny how any dna or or the fingerprints collected from the phone and wallet found in the deepfreeze were not tested by the police.
@hazelhadley-britt6396 They showed pic's of ZA's car with bleached carpet! 😳WHY bleach it? WHY taking out backseat?🤔 WHY taking his daughter in the middle of the night checking on his ex? ( & ☝️ doing a very SICK thing, as leaving 2 unintended baby boys at home❗🤦🙄 WHY burning his clothes? 🤔 WHY putting a track er in her car? 🤦🙄 WHY motioning daughter to "zip it" in front of cameras? 🤔🤦🙄Only sick person does such things..
@helengren9349 lol!
OMG you fell for unimportant information.
Andrea have you listened to the info on this case from YT page 'J. Embree', incredibly interesting details
He will be convicted as he is a vicious killer.
The trial hasn’t even started yet honey, put your pitchfork away for now.
@@chilo8187 People are allowed opinions, you know.
@@katievb9but making one w/o acknowledging plenty of evidence he was set up, or at least a possibility of that because of using illegal methods and repeated character assassinating innuendo (and falsehoods revealed in that survey), has to make some sort of impression, no?
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This is a personal story with a genetic theme. I knew that I was at high risk for developing life-ending and debilitating conditions. My insurance, which protects my privacy due to HIPAA, would not pay for genetic tests. Hence I went through a "public" genealogical testing service with a data base to get the answers that I desperately needed. I chose knowledge possibly sacrificing my privacy in the process. At this point, I have no regrets but then I am not in Bryan Kohberger's situation. Regarding the innocence or guilt of BK, I am trying to remain unbiased, but admittedly I am leaning towards guilt. With my lack of confidence in the ethics and intellect of LE and prosecutors, my thoughts are confused and conflicted. I hope that Andrea Burkhart continues to cover this case, I need clarity.
She will she's covering it all but will always lean towards innocent unless proven guilty.
Andrea, when you say all these folks find ways around to trample our privacy (when the Constitutions definitely clearly say otherwise, and us poor little people are just “stuck,” wow really? You need to get in touch with people who will walk you through exactly where it says our liberty 🗽 s not to be trampled no matter who it is, the courts, the cops, the corporations, the government, the legislature,etc. call Krisanne Hall, call David Jose, call Jarrin Jackson. It is so disappointing to hear someone say we are stuck in their tyranny when our law of the land is we are a Constitutional Republic, we are not under a king, it is so disappointing!
I'm so sorry that you don't see the problem and that Andrea IS working on this. She is ONE person getting info out to thousands. She assists other attorneys , she helps them with their arguments, she worked like a dog to expose what happened in the Richard Allen case. She also writes letters, files motions, and has a regular job specializing as an appellate layer (smarter than the average bear.) The government IS trampling on our rights. and you trying to shame her to suppress her freedom to think so and say so. It's is your right also, but.. I'm so disappointed in you. Oh the irony. 🙈🙊🙉
@ it is very disappointing to hear her say there is nothing we can do when there is.
@ shame her? By telling her the truth? Many people are becoming very active in asserting our God given rights and winning when the authorities are taking liberty from us. Andrea is probably working from a bar association view, which is all statutes and case law where court, not our right of liberty and the court is king. That is not the way. Us little people need to learn the law then we do not need attorneys who charge astronomical fees for pleas and so on. You and a lot of people think lawyers and courts are king, they aren’t the people have the power and perfect right to instruct our servants in the government. Don’t like my way of telling the truth, i am so sorry, not sorry!
@ regarding warrants it is the law that 5 elements be present if a warrant is to be legal, no less, al must be included. George Washington: “ let there be no usurpation for though in this one instance may be an instrument for good, it os the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed”
James Otis Jr. “It is of utmost consequence that we boldly oppose the least infraction of our Charter and our rights.”
I al only saying that I believe Anne Taylor knows Bryans Constitutional rights were ignored by Law enforcement, the federal and local governments. We do have remedy for this. I hope Anne Taylor is part of a good fight, because we absolutely need fierce warriors for our liberty. The founder put their lives and estates on the line for it.
@@Dawn388 So silly. Have you ever just been exasperated at a situation and used hyperbole? Look that up. Andres just came from weeks and weeks of watching a man's rights being trampled in a brutal, unfair trial. She stood in line, booked hotels, took so many notes I felt like I was there... then I watch the News, Hidden True Crime, DTS, the MSM... they have a completely different story. Do you know they tazed him, locked him in a dog cage, destroyed his mind to wear he was eating feces and drinking his urine never he didn't know if he'd get water or food again. The judge literally would not let the defence do their job and let the state torture a man not convicted. She's exhausted and weary... and here you are. 😐 Judge not lest thou be judged.
I can't even follow you. What are your talking about in regards to kohberger's case
The motions filed by defense, to dismiss, fruit from the forbidden tree, aka dodgy investigation, put the joint down 😂
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@@youareawesomethankyouforge8803 Listen and you will find out, she can't put it more plainly 🤣🤣
@@raw6460And a conclusion or surmising BK was a patsey? If anyone would please NOTE a significant reason to set him up could be because it was discovered upfront ALL was local, and UID CONNECTED...drugs?/but personal and immediate and students/alumni involved: 1st off- an 'in progress" very important acquisition involving many $millions and the entire UID system, and 2nd, already (Covid,etc) diminished enrollment...3rd a 'final warning" to a very $necessary and influential fraternity/sorority at the center of it all. This is something that is verboten to mention...but AT et al must have been aware of what was happening at the time, and now J Hippler could be connected in some way to some of it, since we know the President of UID was allowed to write and publish a book confidently naming BK as the perp, and Judge Judge deciding to retire knowing he could be discovered as being so, too imo.
Looks like Sy Ray has recused himself from the trial, now that he has seen the cell phone data. One channel has mentioned that he may not even be working with the defense anymore. Could be why AT wants the cell phone data thrown out.
Yea I think he doesn’t want to testify for the defense bc he thinks BK is guilty now. The cell evidence clearly doesn’t help the defense or AT wouldn’t want it out.
Sy 4ay is a Goober, couldn't u tell ??!! Hippler ⛳️
Which channel?
Where is this information from? I'd like to read or watch that. Thanks!
There is no proof to any of this other than the Goncalves spreading misinformation and disinformation to certain youtube channels like they always do and have done since the beginning of this case.
With regard to this case Mr.Ray would not be able to discuss in detail anything openly or publicly with anyone let alone that family, so they have no grounds to say anything. But they want so desperately to make Bryan look guilty or bad in someway.
A week or so ago Kerri confirmed Sy was working on Bryan’s case on their youtube page in a recent comment section, that info is out there and a fact, so the fact speaks for itself.
Edit:As far as The Garrett Discovery.. the emails used in that were fake.. that much is evident with what was listed recently. So using that as any proof of Sy Ray “leaving” is absurd. Like I said misinformation and disinformation.
To add: The second At&T warrant is NOT being asked for suppression. Also the First ATT warrant is under a Frank’s Hearing and currently being asked for Suppression, however, one has to read the Conclusion of it at the bottom.. “this warrant lacked probable cause as written, given its heavy reliance on conclusions reached by LE WITHOUT DETAILS necessary for the magistrate to draw its own conclusions, and because the warrantOMITTED EXCULPATORY info that put into question the reliability of facts upon which it relies, and finally because the affidavit and warrant do not specify what data could be searched and seized (4th Amendment)
Just because it is a suppression hearing does not mean Sy Ray would not also be called to testify and potentially talk about info that what was omitted. ( ie whereabouts.. )
Andrea, I know you’re a firm woman, but pls find a way to condense these videos. The content is great, and you are lovely in every way, but it isn’t practical for many of us. I have experience in devising public presentations and know it can be a challenge to cut or revise to keep to a scheduled time, but it is important in the long run. Do the legal overviews in two parts? See what portions most of the audience cares about and cull accordingly? I know you’re not concerned about popularity (and we love that about you), but it would be better in longrun.
I love the long form. I just listen to it in spurts after it posts if I don’t have time all at once or for the live. If you go to your TH-cam History, it’ll take you to where you left off. (I suspect you know this, but I thought I’d be thorough.) So, you can make up your own 2, 3, or 4 part versions of the video rather than having her split it up. It’ll be perfectly tailored to your own schedule! 😊 And someone always does the timestamps that she pins at the top of the comments of you want to jump.
watch some hack
Though, I do understand your point and like that you gave some examples/ideas for implementation.
When discussing complex cases and the legal analysis you have to do long form. If you condense it you are missing a lot. There are a lot of creators on TH-cam that give overviews of a case but I don’t subscribe to those. I want the law and the reasoning behind the court’s decisions.
The law is a pure pure ass in america. Three quarters of the country voted for a felon to be President what a joke. Then drop charges against trump. But exspec their citizen to obey the law.
This is so boring a dry. Can you liven it up a bit?
Lol! What you expecting a law 101 disco? 😂
It's facts and legal analysis not legal theatrics! 😂 My goodness, some people want a performance with their information!!!!
Lana whassaup in the hizzy
So, hypothetically, we could find out who really sired Barron Trump?
@Julia-543 YES Zachary Anderson, another travisty of justice 😢
Free Zach Anderson!🤟🏼❤
Like and share to get Andrea and all makeup and coffee and all the good things for anyone who was there for us during Delphi! Truth and transparency, our other happy friend lawyer lee, Bob Moda and wife sry if spelt wrong but all the line sitters deserve this and all future ones aired like the Delhi trial out to its max I hope to be a part of a movement like this and will but I’m against the Hartford and its an ERISA claim
Like and share to get Andrea and all makeup and coffee and all the good things for anyone who was there for us during Delphi! Truth and transparency, our other happy friend lawyer lee, Bob Moda and wife sry if spelt wrong but all the line sitters deserve this and all future ones aired like the Delhi trial out to its max I hope to be a part of a movement like this and will but I’m against the Hartford and its an ERISA claim but u loook so beautiful write down which makeup u did in what order and make a book lol please I’ll edit it for u and be a side hustler for u if u ever need one but I’m in the Midwest idk where u guys are lol