Soooooo... there are two things I gathered from this: 1) Chara has a fascination with the number 9. I wasn't expecting that (sort of thought that was more of a soulless Chara thing) but eh, it's fits lol. I'm sure the Chara Defense sub reddit will make some good memes out of it, which will be fun to see 2) Wow, I am actually getting teary eyed-
So the implications is because they were hurt on the surface they wished to end their suffering by going to the underground. Where they met the Dreemurrs who only gave them love. My guess is the implications that Chara specifically tells Asriel to get six human souls. Even when Asriel isn’t too sure what number they did is an indicator they planned to shatter the barrier. But we also know as naive as Asriel was he knew they would have had to wage war against all of humanity. And Chara also purposely sparked this by asking them to deliver their body to the flower bed in the village. Chara was probably told stories of how humans showed no hesitation and no mercy to monsters during the war even when it seemed unnecessary. So they probably empathized with their mistreatment So I imagine them becoming “invincible” was getting the seven human souls alongside Asriel and crafting a world where “nothing can hurt anyone anymore” by waging over and defeating humanity. As the hero of monsterkind
Possibly! Although to correct one thing in this comment, we know from Asriel that when he absorbed Chara's soul Chara and Asriel split control of their body, and that Chara was the one who carried their own body.
@@kyleb7974 I think that was a part of it, although I tend to be more charitable in this regard. I don't think it was just that they wanted Asriel to see how merciless humans were, but also that those flowers just genuinely had sentimental value to Chara. Chara is unfortunately a very vague character though, so it's hard to know whether their motivations in this regard were more pure or tainted.
@@kamera1890 I’d probably go with the latter but more so with good intentions. Their hatred for humanity was probably kept close to them. And when they came to the underground they were cared after by monsters who just so happened to also be harmed by humans. Perhaps this was Chara’s way of fulfilling their justice. The prophecy. And Asgore’s high pedestal of being the saviour and hopes of monsterkind.
1:27 Could be also a reference to the prophecy and the angel's heaven. If you think about it, the angel's heaven it's probably depicted as a higer place. Also, it is related to the dark worlds, where "everything can be healed with a spell" (taken from canon dialogue).
Something that it also could be referencing (that I wish I included more in the video) is how Asriel might've also intrepreted that advice of being invicible, which would give more context to his stats in the Omega Flowey fight.
This letter is quite interesting not just in chara’s characterization and their past but also just the meta. “But isn’t it scary, to think there’s a highest number? That, if you made 99 good memories, you couldn’t hold anymore. So I don’t like to keep count of the flowers we pick, or the times that they laugh, or how many scary faces they make. I just hope we’ll be friends for 999 more years.“ In the metanarrative Chara represents the addiction to number based rewards. While numbers and stats have a limit, memories dont. Frisk is the memories, joy, and emotional attachment to the game. They represent that. Stats and power may be fun to get but just one shotting everything is boring and theres no joy in that. You may have reached the absolute but whats the point now? Wheres the cool challenging boss? It doesnt matter how much of a stat you have, all that matters is the memory and joy you get from playing the game, getting to know the characters and enjoyng heartfelt stories. That transcends stats and numbers which have limits. Just playing for the sake of play. I find it interesting that Asriel sort of conceptualized what Frisk is even before theyre even born.
@@Kakishirocream That’s an interesting angle for Frisk, although the lines revolving around Asriel feel particularly relevant as well. For the monster who disliked the notion of there being a “cap” to the memories, it’s quite ironic how as Flowey he saw it all.
@@kamera1890 he ended up living in his worst nightmare. Also “Frisk… you were the friend i wish i always had” just hits harder for me after reading the letter
To add to the stuff about 9: A lot of the unused songs revealed during this anniversary related to Power of NEO. And do you know what OST number it is? 99.
I know! I've already seen some tweets suggesting this is for Asriel and Dess, or the other mysterious letter sender. DR fans will do anything but let us get any form of Chara content.
@@kamera1890 it’s kinda sad y’know, he was feeling lonely and thought he could trust them. Not to mention also the fact that regardless of you being a jerk in a true pacifist route (by jerk I mean by being mean or telling rude comments) Asriel still thinks you’re “the friend he wishes he always had”. It’s clear that he’s been looking for someone who he could trust, a “true friend” but the reality is more disappointing. True friends aren’t real, most of them are with you for convenience or they’re just being polite and try not to hurt your feelings by not saying you that they don’t really care “that much” about you, that’s when you realize they weren’t “the greatest person” after all. Yep, monsters are indeed very weird. As soon as they barely meet someone, they already consider them as “true friends” it’s a naivety that will costs them their lives on a genocide route. My guess is that he was desperate to find someone to talk to. He himself stated he felt lonely, so I can understand why he put Chara on a pedestal and ignore their flaws. It’s kinda sad, it’s pretty obvious that since he was an only child, he saw Chara as a way to fill that urge to have a sibling or someone who he could trust and talk about everything. For later being disappointed about how it turned out, it’s almost like a one sided friendship, I see how much he invested on Chara he even made lockets for the two of them, so they could wear it, just for later Chara caring very little if not anything about him. That could also explain why once he became a flower decided to change his worldview. In one neutral ending he suggest to the player to just “go through it without caring about anyone” since after all the player will eventually lose contact with his friends and never seen them again. It’s clear that Flowey followed the advice he gave to the player. Once Chara died and Asriel understood that they’ll never come back, he decided to never care about anyone ever again so he won’t be hurt again. And also due to him feeling emotionally numb and not being able to feel the emotions he once felt when he was with Chara. He himself says that even IF that person was still there with him, he wouldn’t care about them at all as well. And the only think he wants now is someone with the same struggles as him but now as “Flowey” after he was disappointed about how the things turned out as “Asriel”.
@@kamera1890What I don’t get it is why neither Asgore nor Toriel mentions Chara as his “sibling” but only Asriel as their son. Toriel remembers Chara more as an old acquaintance than an adopted child. But the other monsters do address them as “siblings” ¿Does that mean the time in which Chara was in the underground was short enough to not form any personal bond with the Dreemurrs or them consider Chara as his “sibling” but also long enough for the monsters to address them as “siblings”? Isn’t that a plot hole? Chara may have not been in the underground for a long time as expected, if that’s the case, then doesn’t that also affect the bonding between them and Asriel? If the time was short that could explain why they were so focused on his plan than actually bonding with Asriel just like you said they were known to be efficient in what they do, so they knew that they needed Asriel in order to get out of the underground. What if they didn’t actually meant to free the monsters but instead have Asriel’s body in order to destroy the humanity? Let’s not forget that Chara and Asriel had control over one body, and they were as far as I can tell the ones who used more Asriel’s body, they even carried their one body, the only time in which Asriel could control himself was when he returned injured to the underground, and when he hesitated to kill/defend himself when the humans attacked him. Isn’t that a manipulative tactic? It’s like you tell someone what he wants to hear for later use them as an advantage, forcing them to be on a situation that they don’t want to so the other person can take control of it and do what he pleases. But why the other monsters said that they became “siblings” over time? Maybe Asriel was the one who proposed that idea to his parents and since they loved him so much they decided to follow that idea, so they’ll tell the others what Asriel thinks about Chara.
Can you even blame Asriel for being isolated and has no friends at his age other than Chara? Also, at the end, Chara is likely a wounded child mentally but is very good at hiding it. But is Chara even 100% evil here? At the end, they're just children. Ik this is corny af, but children are always the one who fcked the most when they're at difficult times.
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 I don’t really seem them as a “villain.” Because they’re literally a reflection of your desires. I covered this more in my last video though if you want to hear me explain that more in-depth.
Can't wait for Undertale's 99th anniversary when we get more Chara and Asriel content
Perhaps the 19th anniversary?
19 is your lv when you fight sans
Can’t wait for the 19th and 20th anniversary
Can't wait for the 99999th anniversary when we get one glimpse of chara speaking!
Soooooo... there are two things I gathered from this:
1) Chara has a fascination with the number 9. I wasn't expecting that (sort of thought that was more of a soulless Chara thing) but eh, it's fits lol. I'm sure the Chara Defense sub reddit will make some good memes out of it, which will be fun to see
2) Wow, I am actually getting teary eyed-
Chara is actually just a massive 999 fan
@@wesleyc5713 Cannon event, can see 🙏
CHARA FANS ARE EATING TODAY!!!!! (Literally doesnt change anythig but its always Nice to see more Chara and Asriel)
If Chara's favourite number is 9.
The Maximum HP we can have on LOVE 20 is 99.
=)
And the XP is 99999
=)
@@kyleb7974 That too
Attack 99
Defense 99
Too
So the implications is because they were hurt on the surface they wished to end their suffering by going to the underground.
Where they met the Dreemurrs who only gave them love.
My guess is the implications that Chara specifically tells Asriel to get six human souls. Even when Asriel isn’t too sure what number they did is an indicator they planned to shatter the barrier. But we also know as naive as Asriel was he knew they would have had to wage war against all of humanity. And Chara also purposely sparked this by asking them to deliver their body to the flower bed in the village.
Chara was probably told stories of how humans showed no hesitation and no mercy to monsters during the war even when it seemed unnecessary. So they probably empathized with their mistreatment
So I imagine them becoming “invincible” was getting the seven human souls alongside Asriel and crafting a world where “nothing can hurt anyone anymore” by waging over and defeating humanity. As the hero of monsterkind
Possibly! Although to correct one thing in this comment, we know from Asriel that when he absorbed Chara's soul Chara and Asriel split control of their body, and that Chara was the one who carried their own body.
@@kamera1890 Yeah. I imagine Chara wanted to get Asriel to fall in line by seeing humans mercilessly attack them
@@kyleb7974 I think that was a part of it, although I tend to be more charitable in this regard. I don't think it was just that they wanted Asriel to see how merciless humans were, but also that those flowers just genuinely had sentimental value to Chara. Chara is unfortunately a very vague character though, so it's hard to know whether their motivations in this regard were more pure or tainted.
@@kamera1890 I’d probably go with the latter but more so with good intentions. Their hatred for humanity was probably kept close to them. And when they came to the underground they were cared after by monsters who just so happened to also be harmed by humans.
Perhaps this was Chara’s way of fulfilling their justice. The prophecy. And Asgore’s high pedestal of being the saviour and hopes of monsterkind.
i feel like the 9th anniv focuses on chara because THE NUMBER 9
Absolutely yeah.
1:27 Could be also a reference to the prophecy and the angel's heaven.
If you think about it, the angel's heaven it's probably depicted as a higer place. Also, it is related to the dark worlds, where "everything can be healed with a spell" (taken from canon dialogue).
Something that it also could be referencing (that I wish I included more in the video) is how Asriel might've also intrepreted that advice of being invicible, which would give more context to his stats in the Omega Flowey fight.
Happy Birthday, Chara.
Man, FNAF and Undertale fandoms are definitely having a field day this month.
This letter is quite interesting not just in chara’s characterization and their past but also just the meta. “But isn’t it scary, to think there’s a highest number? That, if you made 99 good memories, you couldn’t hold anymore. So I don’t like to keep count of the flowers we pick, or the times that they laugh, or how many scary faces they make. I just hope we’ll be friends for 999 more years.“ In the metanarrative Chara represents the addiction to number based rewards. While numbers and stats have a limit, memories dont. Frisk is the memories, joy, and emotional attachment to the game. They represent that. Stats and power may be fun to get but just one shotting everything is boring and theres no joy in that. You may have reached the absolute but whats the point now? Wheres the cool challenging boss? It doesnt matter how much of a stat you have, all that matters is the memory and joy you get from playing the game, getting to know the characters and enjoyng heartfelt stories. That transcends stats and numbers which have limits. Just playing for the sake of play. I find it interesting that Asriel sort of conceptualized what Frisk is even before theyre even born.
@@Kakishirocream That’s an interesting angle for Frisk, although the lines revolving around Asriel feel particularly relevant as well. For the monster who disliked the notion of there being a “cap” to the memories, it’s quite ironic how as Flowey he saw it all.
@@kamera1890 he ended up living in his worst nightmare. Also “Frisk… you were the friend i wish i always had” just hits harder for me after reading the letter
@@Kakishirocream Asriel is my baby
@@kamera1890 That cutie patootie fluff boy doesnt deserve all that horrific pain, i want to give it all to a fr*ns shipper
To add to the stuff about 9:
A lot of the unused songs revealed during this anniversary related to Power of NEO. And do you know what OST number it is? 99.
I FINALLY WATCHED IT TO THE FULL YESSSS ALGORITHM BLAST
Ugh... Just wait until someone makes a theory about this that says "ThIs Is A tEAsEr FoR tHe NeXt SeCrEt BoSs!"
I know! I've already seen some tweets suggesting this is for Asriel and Dess, or the other mysterious letter sender. DR fans will do anything but let us get any form of Chara content.
Asriel really thought highly of Chara…he was too blind to see anything else.
@@fabianrolandoquirogatellez1148 I don’t think his values were completely misplaced, but Chara definitely is not the greatest to idolize yeah.
@@kamera1890 it’s kinda sad y’know, he was feeling lonely and thought he could trust them. Not to mention also the fact that regardless of you being a jerk in a true pacifist route (by jerk I mean by being mean or telling rude comments) Asriel still thinks you’re “the friend he wishes he always had”.
It’s clear that he’s been looking for someone who he could trust, a “true friend” but the reality is more disappointing. True friends aren’t real, most of them are with you for convenience or they’re just being polite and try not to hurt your feelings by not saying you that they don’t really care “that much” about you, that’s when you realize they weren’t “the greatest person” after all.
Yep, monsters are indeed very weird. As soon as they barely meet someone, they already consider them as “true friends” it’s a naivety that will costs them their lives on a genocide route.
My guess is that he was desperate to find someone to talk to. He himself stated he felt lonely, so I can understand why he put Chara on a pedestal and ignore their flaws. It’s kinda sad, it’s pretty obvious that since he was an only child, he saw Chara as a way to fill that urge to have a sibling or someone who he could trust and talk about everything. For later being disappointed about how it turned out, it’s almost like a one sided friendship, I see how much he invested on Chara he even made lockets for the two of them, so they could wear it, just for later Chara caring very little if not anything about him.
That could also explain why once he became a flower decided to change his worldview. In one neutral ending he suggest to the player to just “go through it without caring about anyone” since after all the player will eventually lose contact with his friends and never seen them again. It’s clear that Flowey followed the advice he gave to the player. Once Chara died and Asriel understood that they’ll never come back, he decided to never care about anyone ever again so he won’t be hurt again. And also due to him feeling emotionally numb and not being able to feel the emotions he once felt when he was with Chara.
He himself says that even IF that person was still there with him, he wouldn’t care about them at all as well. And the only think he wants now is someone with the same struggles as him but now as “Flowey” after he was disappointed about how the things turned out as “Asriel”.
@@kamera1890What I don’t get it is why neither Asgore nor Toriel mentions Chara as his “sibling” but only Asriel as their son. Toriel remembers Chara more as an old acquaintance than an adopted child. But the other monsters do address them as “siblings”
¿Does that mean the time in which Chara was in the underground was short enough to not form any personal bond with the Dreemurrs or them consider Chara as his “sibling” but also long enough for the monsters to address them as “siblings”? Isn’t that a plot hole? Chara may have not been in the underground for a long time as expected, if that’s the case, then doesn’t that also affect the bonding between them and Asriel? If the time was short that could explain why they were so focused on his plan than actually bonding with Asriel just like you said they were known to be efficient in what they do, so they knew that they needed Asriel in order to get out of the underground. What if they didn’t actually meant to free the monsters but instead have Asriel’s body in order to destroy the humanity?
Let’s not forget that Chara and Asriel had control over one body, and they were as far as I can tell the ones who used more Asriel’s body, they even carried their one body, the only time in which Asriel could control himself was when he returned injured to the underground, and when he hesitated to kill/defend himself when the humans attacked him.
Isn’t that a manipulative tactic? It’s like you tell someone what he wants to hear for later use them as an advantage, forcing them to be on a situation that they don’t want to so the other person can take control of it and do what he pleases.
But why the other monsters said that they became “siblings” over time?
Maybe Asriel was the one who proposed that idea to his parents and since they loved him so much they decided to follow that idea, so they’ll tell the others what Asriel thinks about Chara.
Can you even blame Asriel for being isolated and has no friends at his age other than Chara?
Also, at the end, Chara is likely a wounded child mentally but is very good at hiding it. But is Chara even 100% evil here?
At the end, they're just children. Ik this is corny af, but children are always the one who fcked the most when they're at difficult times.
Cool
Did you play outertale
I have not played PS!Outertale yet, although I've seen a lot about it
Huh????
The Chara Grind never stops 🙏
=)
chara still best villain
They're not a villain where did you get that idea?
@@VioletGG4 Depends on the route.
@@somechupacabrawithinternet8866 I don’t really seem them as a “villain.” Because they’re literally a reflection of your desires. I covered this more in my last video though if you want to hear me explain that more in-depth.
@@StarwayBunny??? They literally say your genocide.