The Impossible Painting
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Some things are simply beyond description. Not ink, not paint, nor spoken words can capture their entire beauty... but that doesn't mean they're beyond imagination.
Let's look at some of the legends of China, and the interesting light they shine on this concept of beauty that is beyond description.
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@@prestynmurrell7906 but they don't?
Agreed
Agreed.
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When I was little in the school library was a version of "Donkeyskin" available that had a small change in the last dress.
For those that don't know, in that story the princess tries to make impossible requests to the king so she doesn't have to marry him, since it's her own father (he had a terrible way to deal with the passing of his wife) so her fairy godmother told her to ask for three dresses- one as shiny as the sun, another as silver as the moon, and another with the color of the sky. However, they changed the last dress for one with "the color of time", probably by mistake.
The illustrations were beautiful, and we never get to see the final dress in all its glory until the end, when the birds and the colors of the dress seem to hint the first pages of the book, when we meet the princess and her parents, when they were happy.
While I get that certain types of beauty are really difficult to put in picture, I do believe an abstract version of it can be placed in visual art, in something the viewer can understand.
Also that intro to NordVPN was both natural and terrifying. Good job!
I feel like I've seen a movie of that book, it has a different name although I can't remember it
the French version of the tale, the most popular in Europe, says "la couleur du temps" for the last dress, and "temps" can be use for both "time" and "weather" depending on the context
Wait so did she marry her father? I just gotta know!
@@imthebossmermaid3648 no, after her father gave her the dresses she asked for even worse hopping to deter him : the skin of a magical donkey that gave gold and was the most prized possession of the kingdom. in his madness, the king killed the animal and gave her the skin. she was beyond horrified and ran away with the dresses in a box and the skin of the donkey on her back as a coat. she went to an other kingdom and got a job as a mere farmgirl, hidding her identity and her riches and called by everyone "Donkeyskin". One day the prince of this kingdom saw her in one of the dresses and fell in love, but couldn't find her anywhere the next day when she was back on her disguise. the hardships to reunite the lovers changes depending on the version of the tale, but when they finally mary, the princess father is among the guests and gave his daugther his blessing, as he came back to reason
@@ArisaMilkawa Thank you! Phew, that's a relief, it's good when fairytales have a happy ending!
As a Chinese person, I find it very sweet to hear stories of my culture told through another language, the recognizing what the original text was. I sorta predicted the Li Bai poem would make an appearance before coming to that point of the video!
Thank you Tale Foundry for yet another great video!
it is pretty much impossible to mention yang guifei without mention libai
same
But also the an lushan rebellion
same!! fellow chinese person noice
I heard the call and started drawing. The picture is of a lovely but sad girl. She sheds tears of loneliness down her pink cheeks. Her hair nicely arranged to at least fake a smile with her rose petal lips. Her large dark eyes reflect the garden where she weeps, hoping someone will see more than just a pretty face. She feels she causes disaster wherever she goes and often wears a veil to stop it.
That’s so sad. 😢 Now describe it without detailing her physical appearance.
Aphantasia keeps some people from reading but your channel gave me new memories to remember. It gave me the chance to visualise the stories I've read and I'm very thankful for that. Though the beauty of language will never be hidden becaus eof that. Interpreting things is something that everyone can and captures great sounds.
Aphantasia is basically that you can't imagine pictures in your head. It is your inner eye being blind while you are not. Sure, I can describe you an apple or so, but I'm not able to see it in my mind.
Fellow Aphant here, I was about to say something similar, and totally agree with you. Thank you for helping to paint the mental images we can't produce ourselves! I love the channel and it has been inspiring me to come up with story ideas even if I feel I may lack some innate ability to paint the mental pictures myself, but perhaps can inspire it in others.
That's so hard for me to imagine, which feels a bit ironic now that I think about it. As someone with a dissociative disorder, who often hallucinates, and has maladaptive daydreaming and adhd, and running simulations in my head from the high-functioning autism and severe anxiety, the concept of not being able to imagine something is difficult for me. I can't stop imagining stuff a lot of the time, and even when I can usually someone else in my head feeds me things to think about or I'm still seeing them/the headspace.
I'd love to know more. Maybe we can share experiences from being on two opposite sides of a spectrum. Maybe I can even get a taste of what it's like for me to just exist in the physical world, however brief.
I know nothing of Aphantasia, but hearing it mentioned here I can't help but think that using Stable Diffusion might help, to a point; an artificial intelligence to make images. Bit cumbersome to use continuously while reading, but could be quite useful for when you want to take a few minutes to get a visual to help better understand something.
I've been curious for a while now. Since you don't have a mind's eye, do you have other mind-senses to imagine in (like can you imagine the softness of your pillow as if it's in your hand), or is it more like a vague mixture of concepts that don't have a picture attached?
Coy Raig For me, I also can't imagine how it feels to hug my pillow if I'm not in that particular situation. I can tell you how soft it is through memories tho. Others might have it that they can but the only thing that i have is actually a mind's ear somehow.
If i imagine a song i can hear it clearly playing but others might not have it again. So it probably depends on the person and personality of the human you're talking to. Though that could also be quite tough sometimes.
A long time ago I bought a book called Learn to Draw the Natural Way. It's supposed to be best book on learning to become an artist, and the intro pages talk a lot about this concept. You paint what see, but what you see is entirely based on your history, experiences, and even how your language describes things. Two people painting the same scene, in the same style, could do radically different paintings just based on how they perceive and interpret what they're looking at. I never learned to draw but the idea has stuck with me, and given me deep interest in how language describes colors.
The thing that remains prominent in my mind when I watched this was an adult French comic called 'Beauty'. It's about this girl, sad that she's not beautiful, who unintentionally frees a fairy from a curse and in thanks, gifts her with an enchantment. Everyone who sees her will perceive her as the most beautiful woman they've ever seen. Whatever they'd imagine the most beautiful to look like, she will always eclipse it. Unfortunately foe her she will still look like her usual self whenever she sees herself. And it ends up being more than she can handle.
This comic provides a humbling and unsettling look into the human condition, but also manages to be funny.
Edit: word of warning, it's not for everyone since some of the themes in it can be a bit much for some people
Hey, so where did you find this comic?
@@jamingrocks9334 Checked it out at my local library. Would you like me to give you the name of the author so you can find more easily?
@@fuaside4211 It’s Hubert & Kerascoët
After taking it for granted for decades that I couldn't draw, one day in my forties I picked up a piece of paper in an idle moment and drew a picture of my stepdaughter taking a nap, and then of the blanket she was lying under, hardly disturbed, like a shed chrysalis. It actually looked pretty good.
My wife liked the picture enough that she kept it, and I bought a sketch book and began drawing every day. My artwork improved, and I enjoyed it. I got friends to pose for me.
Eventually, I stopped drawing. Things happen. I still draw occasionally. It still gives me pleasure to do it.
When my stepdaughter died, The image of her napping and then of the empty blanket were copied into the memorial booklet that my wife made.
*Hug*
@@MySerpentine I'm so glad that the two images of "Becca" and "Abandoned Beccalys" gave my wife comfort after Becca's body (which my wife called "the abandoned Beccalys") was cremated.
This is the most heart touching comment ive read in a while
I wonder if there is a point where beauty becomes something similar to a lovecraftian monster. A beauty so abstract and otherworldly that instead of the madness found in lovecraft, it's an unyielding flood of desire.
That's actually a concept that I'm experimenting with in my own writing. Like, a lot of these fantasy creatures we describe have that "otherwordly beauty", but it's always the same things like blonde hair with blue eyes, dark hair and porcelain skin. You'd think that they'd be something more abstract.
This is where beauty becomes a transcendental. Indeed the ancient Greek philosophers put it up there next to Goodness, and Truth as the three transcendantals. When you are confronted by them, you do not so much behold them, as are beholden to them. No single thing can fully grasp or capture them, but we know them when we encounter them fleetingly through th imperfect things of this world.
@@andielon3744 wouldn't that just be a biblically accurate angel. I imagine they would've been beautiful in their own way but they are terrifying because they're different.
Aromantics:
@@rebeccacummings6697 Being aro doesn't mean you can't find things beautiful, or that you aren't affected by beautiful things. Desire doesn't equal romance. A person's desire can manifest in many different ways. Additionally, love isn't romance either. Aro and ace people absolutely feel love and desire for their partners, just not romantic or sexual love and desire.
*Tale Foundry:* We have a script for you to draw.
*Animator:* Sweet, what's it about this time? Magic systems? Cultural influences? Creature interactions?
*Tale Foundry:* It's about how you can't use art to convey ideas.
*Animator:*
*Tale Foundry:*
*Animator:* You love making my job hard, don't you?
That poem! I know the poem of the Beauty of the North! It's the focus of one of the most heartbreaking movie moments I've ever seen.
SPOILER ALERT:
In one of my favorite movies, House of the Flying Daggers, Jin sings of the great beauty as his love, Mei, having pulled a dagger from her heart to protect Jin from her former lover, lay dying as the snow falls. The tears as Jin sings softly, his absolutely broken spirit, knowing that even though he lived, he will never love someone like Mei again... I don't even speak Mandarin, but I have to watch the movie in it's original language because of the absolutely devastating performance by Jin's actor in this final scene. The heartbreak in his voice just destroys me.
Tale foundry really is one of my favorite creators on this platform
I love how they never cease to teach new knowledge on how to pick apart abstract concepts
My favorite writer, the 18th century English novelist, Lawrence Sterne, expressed the idea of this video pretty literally. In his epic novel, The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman, Uncle Toby has a romance with a lady called Widow Wadman, who is considered the most beautiful woman in the whole county. However, because beauty is in the eye of the beholder, Sterne (through his narrator, Tristram) does not try to describe her at all, but simply tells us she is beautiful and then includes a blank page in the book so the reader can draw or paste in a picture of whatever they might consider the image of ultimate womanly beauty, and let that represent Widow Wadman for them.
Sterne was a bit of a troublemaker. 😉
Damn
Can you not contrive, just this once, to ____ out of the ______?
I feel like this is a core aspect of what makes TTRPGs like Dungeons and Dragons so enticing and fun to play, with the constant flow between the creator and the audience, you can make a world feel alive.
"The face that launched a thousand ships" could mean 2 things and neither would be innaccurate.
💀😂
one being a face shaped port that can fit a thousand ships
@@danielpetrus9552 you got it! 👌
This is from now on, my FAVORITE video from Tale Foundry. I want to write something for my DnD players, and you just gave me the best writing advice I never knew I needed. To describe one's spirit in lieu of their physical appearance sounds a bit challenging, but at the same time it sounds pretty romantic to be honest. To describe one's being, in intricate detail, without delving into one's physical attributes. I'm almost afraid I'll get too wordy describing my characters. Regardless I've been given a lot to think about, thank you
Do you think this is why people in old photographs look much more attractive? that because there is less detail that our minds fill in the blanks with what we perceive as beauty instead of what may be there. New cameras can capture the texture of a single hair so imperfections are easy to spot. but in old photographs, many features will be lost to the aging of the photo or the low quality.
“Taint what a horse looks like, it’s what a horse be.”
― Terry Pratchett
I can’t help but read this far more lewd than was likely meant.
This is strangely lovecraftian.
Honestly, this made me realize why every time I see an interpretation of a book, be this the desing of a character or creature, even a voice, I feel like it's not the same. I don't feel conected. I don't recognize it, but I do. Great video as always dude!
2:37 who doesn't love a beauty mark though!
this is why I love the idea of giving fewer details and making the reader/viewer do most of the work themselves. this is common in haiku and most japanese writing and art (I'm japanese which is why I'm more familiar with it but other cultures probably do this too).
I read the title before I saw the thumbnail and thought this was going to be an examination of the horror of Tomie. I would still like to see that, but this was really good too
Why? There's quite a few TH-cam videos that do that in English. Dozens more if you speak more than English 🤔
That's what I thought as well
14:00 this perfectly summarizes what I don’t like about so many authors.
Every intro gets me hooked i swear
Its 8 pm for me and thats such a good time for watch this video
That was the smoothest damn ad transition I’ve ever witnessed. 11/10
Also, this video helped remind me how describing a character’s physical features in detail isn’t nearly as important as some people make it seem. I have aphantasia (I cant visualize things in my mind), and prosopagnosia (face blindness), and one bit of feedback I often get from those who read my writing is that I should describe things more, especially how characters look.
For a long time I struggled with that, unable to really describe something that I couldn’t fully picture in my own head. How was I supposed to describe someone’s face if I couldn’t do it even while looking directly at them? But I’ve come to realize that those people were leaning too heavily on those descriptions, and what mattered more was how I conveyed the feeling and essence of my characters instead.
I had gotten lost in the specificity of things again and forgot about that, so thanks for the reminder. 😊
This is really well put together! You can see you put a lot of time into making a new video. Toooon of information in a right amount of time! Keep the good work buddy!
Kind of related to capturing essence, I once heard a Chinese tale of a painter who had to paint a tiger to honor the emperor who was said to be like a tiger. After some time the painter came back with just a few lines on a paper. This made the emperor angry who (I think) threw the painter in jail. They then went to the painters studio to see what he had been doing Al this time. The emperor was amazed to see a painting there of a tiger that looked so real you'd imagine it leaping out of the painting. Then there paintings getting more and more simplistic untill the end result of the few lines on the paper. When the emperor looked at the lines again, he noticed that the lines did resemble a tiger, its strength, agility, etc, and was impressed by it. He released the painter and told him to make more paintings of other things in this style. This was appearantly an origin story of the Chinese writing system.
My telling of the story is very simplistic and I am not sure how much it is really a story told in China.
This video is the first thing to help me feel good about myself, and therefore the world around me, since my dog died. However, this is not the first time one of your videos has worked better than therapy. Thank you so much for the reminder of how to look at the world (and therefore myself).
Makes me happy to find a video from one of my favorite channels on my birthday
This is stunning, as a linguist and translator it encapsulates what I love about my craft
This one's message actually produced shivers. Extremely well done, my guy. ❤😁
This was a wonderful description of the indescribable portion of art, and an inspiration in how to describe that beauty yourself.
It may be sad but for me these four desciptions failed to convey the true beauty of the four maidens because I was given too much context. As soon as I heard the word "Chinese" I could not help but imagine a calm, graceful maiden with pale skin, small feet and black hair because this is what I know would be considered at a certain point in time a description of a perfect, feminine beauty in China. Beautiful indeed but not what I would consider the qualities of "astonishingly beautiful". However it only adds to the message for if there was one detail less maybe I would have imagined very different qualities of beauty. I may one day tell this story to someone but replace the China with a name of nonexistant land and then reveal the origin of the tale, have them compare the first image they had in mind and the second one.
Have I mentioned I adore Tale Foundry? Cause I do
You are so fun to listen to. You convey these things perfectly
"Gentlemen, it is my duty to inform you of one beauty
Though I'd ask of you a favour, not to seek her for a while
Though I own she is a creature of character and feature
No words could paint the picture of the Queen of all Argyll
And if you could have seen her there,
Boys if you had just been there
The swan was in her movement,
and the morning in her smile.
All the roses of the garden,
would beg to ask her pardon
but not one could match the beauty of the Queen of All Argylle."
~Bedlam Boys
Close to you by the Carpenters also came to mind
I love this channel! It's how I hear about the best stories.
Had no idea what this video was going to be about and I loved it!
A Tale Foundry video so great, my notification bell rang thrice 😁💕
DAYM THAT AD READ WAS SMOOTH 👏👏👏👏🤭
As someone with aphantasia, What I took away from this is:
1.Nothing
2.Confusion
3.People who, unlike me, do have a mind's eye seem to rely on it to the point of it almost being a "sixth sense" despite the fact that everyone will imagine the same thing in different ways, plus
Imagination isn't THAT important. I mean, I still enjoy things that "you need to use your imagination for" (Like fantasy novels, descriptions that leave out details on purpose like the ones given in this video, and more) just as much as a lot of people I know who, unlike me, have a mind's eye.
that is like a blind man saying that he can enjoy a movie just as much as a lot of people who's not blind. im not criticizing you, i just think you dont have the full picture, and i wish you could because everyone deserves it. despite that you can be happy as hell in your life even without a minds eye so dont mind me and be happy :v
@@alvaroluffy1 Good point, but I forgot to say that I like these often more than the movie adaptation (If there is one). I enjoy fantasy/lacking descriptions mostly because there's something cool and mysterious about never knowing what someone/something looks like. I don't really know how to describe it or explain why, but I would assume it's similar to the reason people like reading about the Ineffable.
@@hymind6707 i get that feeling, yeah, its like reading lovecraft, on that ground we're all the same xd
There once was an individual of such beauty, the earth quaked at their feet. The sky cried as it gazed upon them, and the mountains erupted with joy for its envy burned hotter.
All would fear their view, as a mere glance would cause them to parish from enlightenment. their bones would blush, as the pale expression leaves for a skeletal grin.
If such a being to exist, they must be quite loved. But most dread their beauty. Just as no one can escape the Rise of Autumn, the Decadence of Desert, and the Suns Set.
Everyone enjoys the dawn of life, but mourn the arrival of death. Life is what gives us Disaster. But Death the final chapter, to a grand story.
Ironic, is it not? Memento Mortis.
This is probably my favorite video from this channel :)
“沉鱼落雁” “闭月羞花” are the two lines quoted in this video, and I’m surprised to see all these names and stories so familiar to me appeared on this channel. As a Chinese I really appreciate it.
This video came out at a really interesting time I’ve been reading through the silmarilllion which is full of this kind of beauty beyond words imagery simply describing the key features like the color of the trees or the general concept of the gems for which the book is named and leaving the rest to be seen by the affect which their beauty has on characters
"The spirit of a horse" and I could only think of the similar idea that Pratchett described in the Tiffany Aching books.
Geez, man. This video is deep. I'd tell you how deep but I can't say it for someone else.
Did you just...
I deleted my previous comment by accident so I forgot what I said in my previous essay but I'll try my best to rewrite it.
As someone who is interested and fascinated by arts and literature, this has opened my eyes and strengthened my love for creativity. Calling this video only as interesting is an understatement. It's intriguing, informative, and captivating to me. It captured much of my interest.
There were a few times when I've tried to depict Helen of Troy from the Trojan War in my sketches, but have failed to do so. It didn't feel right. I felt as if something was not clicking. I didn't know what was missing and what was wrong with it. And then, you brought up something that struck me and lit my spirits up-abstract descriptions, personal interpretations, ideas, and capturing the subject's soul and spirit. It was wise.
How to use abstract descriptions when describing your subject. To capture their souls and spirits instead of replicating their physical traits into a canvas. Everyone has their own idea of beauty and what can be a beautiful thing to you in a figment of your imagination may not click well with others due to the limitation of language. But it is best to keep it loose and for interpretation while having a foundation to imagine it.
I don't think I've been this passionate about Arts and Writing in a long while. Hearing this video made me giggle and jump in excitement, as immature and child-like as that sounds. I really do appreciate the stories, advices, and points you have shared.
I've watched your videos for awhile now! I haven't been into writing for a few months but this video reminded what sorts of beauty and passion it can bring. Subscribing! ☺️
That was a beautiful perspecive on representing something, thank you.
This is beautiful and also very true. I have a hobby of creating this fictional world and I am imagining how it could be, wrote all the scenes that flashed in my mind coming from various stimulus, and I assemble them every once in a while, to better embody the whole world I created.
I created way too many characters so I'm trying to focus on a few of them and slowly characterize them better, who knows, as things come together I'll be able to give everyone a good place in my story.
But I wanna put the attention on something. Since my art skills are pretty basic I commissioned a poster featuring 10 of them giving a drawing I made as reference. Some had confident poses, others were unclear. But when the artist pictured them, it was surprising to see how their true personalities emerged anyway, even though I didn't know how to picture them/they were too hidden. The girl I wanted to portray as the most beautiful of the three was not the best but drawn by the artist not only she is gorgeous, she also looks caring and friendly, the impulsiveness of the protagonist is even more enhanced by some face details, the eccentric friend is very opened in his body language and clothes were slightly changed to accentuate this feeling, almost specular to him is the other guy, laid back but more shy, you can see it as he tries his best in front of the spectator (he wants to open up more) in his visor and hoodie cap, the energetic dude petting his dog had no personality in my sketch but he looked jolting with energy in the final drawing, the other two girls, one smirking confidently and the other one flexing (but more similar to the beautiful one) were exactly how I pictured them in my mind, the mechanic genius in the back with a robot placed with his big buddy in the background and the guy in red and grey, I left him at last. He was invented to be in stark contrast with the beautiful girl, who is dressed in bright blue shades. The guy is pretty strong but aside from that, his face expressions were pretty stiff, not making it easy to understand his personality. Out of my writing, he was the most unknown and insecure to my own pen. The body shapes in the final drawing tho, they were pretty strong and communicated something I didn't think of. His angry expression about being portrayed/ taken a picture of (depends on how you see it). I could feel him in front of me, in a serious face, with a menacing aura.
Watching him, I was so happy. It was the final, enormous, missing piece in his puzzle, and since then, I was way more confident writing about him. He does feel the pression of expectations for his family status and his career aspirations, but never shows it and is focused and impulsive, hence why he frequently clashes with the protagonist.
Of course, it was the artist who helped me with that unconsciously, but I was indeed able to picture something not representable with art, through a piece of art itself.
Great video as always ❤
Oh this vid is a banger.
A instant classic.
Gonna be eating this for a while
Damn that ad transition was smooth af xD
I don't even mind. Make that bank, this vid deserves it 👽💅
You might want to read up on Draupadi from the Mahabharata.
Honestly one of the best educational channels out there
You’re always very dependable when it comes to trying to find new perspectives.
i got goosebumps listening to this
I just Got here 3 mins after This was posted
I can't help feeling this entire video reminds me Liu Cixin's Dark Forest, wherein Luo Ji imagines his perfect woman. Something about the ways the author handles the abstract nature of beauty. And to make the comparison even more fitting, when Luo Ji uses all the resources available to man to find this perfect woman, she turns out to be a painter, one who specialises in traditional Chinese painting, in fact. She teaches Luo Ji the value of empty space in art, a huge part of the art form. That emptiness in which our mind sets to work.
Goddamn this marketing, I mean I saw many do creative good ads but you actually soled the idea and did it on episode about abstract art.
This is something that often comes up in discussion of adaptation
Sure, it's easy to WRITE a perfect, amazing, drop dead gorgeous woman who's like, SO hot you guys.
Not that easy to CAST
I read a series of comics called "Beauty" by Kerascoët. In it, the ugly, malodorous Coddle is jeered at by the town and mistreated by her godmother, who resents having to take in this indigent mother and her child. No matter how much Coddie works her fingers to the bone (usually by handling the codfish after which she is nicknamed), her godmother begrudges every bit of food put into her mouth. One day, the miserable Coddie is sitting near a lake when she picks up an ugly toad. She commiserates with the creature over their apparent shared hideous appearance and sheds tears which touch its skin. Miraculously, the toad transforms into an ethereally lovely fairy who explains she was under a curse. She could only regain her original form if a human wept for her. She offers to grant Coddie one wish and Coddie wishes to be beautiful.
But this is a malignant fairy, whose beauty hides a vicious heart. She is Mab, the fairy of chaos, and other fairies punished her and placed that curse upon her because she was causing dangerous riots in the human world. Being imprisoned in a toad's form has not changed Mab's nature. She still wishes to cause chaos, mainly through human agency, and granting Coddie's wish is part of her plan.
Becoming beautiful immediately backfires. Coddie's beauty isn't real; the enchantment simply causes her to appear the loveliest creature according to whatever human is looking at her. So her beauty is both magical and deadly. All the men in the village go mad for her. Their women become jealous and try to mar Coddie by scarring her face with a hot poker. It doesn't work. Coddie and her mother flee the town in order to escape the suddenly crazed male population. However, when they take refuge up a tree, the men try to drive them down by setting a pyre at the base of it. Overcome by the smoke, Coddie's mother falls to her death.
More disaster follows. A handsome man falls in love with Coddie and takes her home. His mother tries to hire a painter to capture her image. The artist sees her as being beautiful but the shifting nature of the spell means he can't quite capture it. In despair, he hangs himself.
As the story progresses, Coddie's false beauty, her own shallow nature, foolishness and growing vanity cause everything from an abandoned village, mass murder, continued rape to a full-on war. It's only when she decides to use her questionable gift to stop the mayhem that she manages to save the kingdom, seal away the fairy world (which she deems is too perilous for humans), bring peace to her people and trap the treacherous Mab. It's a terrific story, one that shows beauty as both blessing and curse, a boon and a weapon, and how an abused woman learns to take matters into her own hands and become a queen.
C'est très intéressant, merci pour la vidéo. Tu parles très bien 🙂
This sounds a lot like Plato’s ideas on forms. For every object or that exists in physical reality, there is one perfect version that exists only as a concept in the universe of ideas.
This reminds me of that saying, "the music is not in the notes, but in the silence between."
Technically speaking, Helen of Troy's launching of a thousand ships and inciting a war so cataclysmic that it ended the Bronze Age, had more to do with a truce contract regarding her marriage than it did with her beauty. Yes, her beauty and political/wealth connections played into it, specifically that it was recognised that the contest over her could end civilisations, but it was the solution to this which launched the thousand ships. There was an agreement between her thousand some potential suitors that the decision of whoever won her favour must be abided by all. Furthermore, to enforce this edict, if anyone were to interfere with her marriage (like the Trojans did) that all the signatories to the contract (essentially all the classical Greek world) would be bound to bring all their forces to bear on the infracting party. Essentially their version of NATO Article 5 was invoked when Helen was abducted by Prince Paris of Troy.
this was beautiful
This guy needs more attention
Reminds me of book-to-movie adaptations. How the actors are rarely how you pictured the characters, and the sets are never how you imagined the places. They can be close, almost exactly the same, but they’re _quite_ right.
Never thought I'd watch a video with an advert at 15 mins in but actually keep watching lol! I guess most of the internet is moving to subscription based services too now...
All of that remind me something I read about a french blacksmith. He said you know when a metal is ready to be worked upon when the metal glow with the colour of a cherry.
Cherry can be either really red or having a whiter tint to it. It's only by experience you know what colour or feeling you seek From the metal
Could you do a video on the total opposite? I'm referring to the contidition that people whose mind eye does not exist or is partially closed have, Aphantasia.
There's a Japanese light novel series called The Lord El-Melloi II Case Files which is about a modern day mage solving magical mysteries around the world, and one of the volumes discusses this topic in detail.
The content of the volume involves using beauty itself as a means of generating magical phenomena using mythological examples as references. They even name drop Helen of Troy and Yang Guifei. One mage's attempt involved altering his two daughters to achieve an, "objective expression of perfect human beauty". When the two sisters are presented before a gathering of other mages, we're never given a description of their appearance, only the varying effects they had on their audience. Hardened cold-hearted, ruthless mages are brought to their knees in stunned silence while others are left openly weeping. The narration does an excellent job at describing how utterly beautiful these two sisters are without actually describing them at all.
All the books are excellent reads. There aren't any official English translations, but I highly recommend that you seek them out regardless.
I really like your aesthetic
I have definitely known people whose beauty couldn't be captured in still images. Not that they were exceptionally beautiful, just... an aspect of their beauty lay in the way they moved, and that part of their beauty just couldn't be captured in still images.
Your voice is helping me sleep
the one thing no artist can do:
Draw a beautiful person
It is very funny to me that in stories of fabled beautiful women often times the only descriptions of her come from people who may be inclined to exaggerate a bit, like parents out of love or matchmakers locking for a good deal. I want a story where once the suitors arrive and finally get to see the sheltered young lady, she's just completely ordinary. Or very different to what they were thinking.
Not to mention that "beauty" is an almost useless category to describe someone given it means such different things in different time periods and places, and there is the inherent subjectivity and how different people find different things beautiful. A human face can look a million different ways, if or if not it is beautiful does not capture any of it.
Amon the litter box that youtube has became, THESE videos are probably the best youtube can offer on the subject of the arts. P.S. WOW
thank you, I have been successfully manipulated into buying Nord VPN
lol but jokes aside, this was a pretty great video, for aspiring writers it gives them an actual glimpse into how to craft prose description, most writing channels do stuff like provide an arbitrary 5 step formula explaining how to write, these just end up boxing creativity and making the people that take advice from them into writers that see writing as a recipe instead of an art form, I like that this video instead attempted to show us what great writing can achieve, prioritizing form and style over "rules"
I have a hard time with chinese history and chinese names, but it's funny that as soon as he said "court musician" I started reciting jia ren qu for the first time in a while...
and right away, it was that poem that was the song the musician recited to the emperor 🤣
I like the character of the robot it looks really cool
Gigachad is the important perfect beauty of masculinity
This video make me wonder back to when I start reading novels. At first I start to continue from manga but the novel encaptured me and now I read more and more now I don't even watch movie. The writing are too good to look back to just watch prefab animation that is only good on visual that I can't custom anything about it.
I have enjoyed these videos on ineffability.
I am a Christian, and as such I believe in God as a being that can only be described in part, with carefully chosen words, like the musician’s sister. My fellow Christians and I have encountered him, but we cannot fully relate to an outsider what that is like. The greatness of him is ineffable, yet there are things he has told us about himself that we can partly relate to.
He is like a father, yet more.
He is like a friend, yet closer.
He is like a spouse, yet deeper.
He is like a master, yet dear.
He is like a fortress, yet not made with stone.
He is like a shield, yet not made of metal.
He is like fire, but needs no fuel.
He is like the sun, yet never sets.
He is Lord and Judge and Creator and Father and Brother and Spouse and Friend and Comforter and Master and Lion and Lamb and Warrior and King and Beginning and End. He is Love itself, wholly embracing many yet bringing just retribution on others. He is one essence, but three in person. He is Truth. He is Life. He is the only Path.
These are only the outskirts of his nature, but the thunder of his full personhood who can understand?
We are familiar with the ineffable, though we cannot ever fully grasp him. We commune with the incomprehensible, fully known by him as we dwell on the happy threshold of blessedness so great it would undo us to venture into it. For even his doorstep exceeds the cosmos. It is easy to hear such things and laugh, but I am at peace with a being I cannot understand. I cannot fathom the farthest reaches of the universe, so I do not scorn the idea that its foundation is beyond measurement.
This video has popped up in my recommended under three different titles now
Thank you!!!!!
On a slight tangent, I find that religion in its many forms can have the same strengths and pitfalls as art for pretty much the same reasons.
I'm still looking into this myself, but I think much of religious scripture and spiritual thought may be far better understood and used as metaphor and allegory rather than literal, as poetry rather than history. Unfortunately, because they cannot think abstractly enough (or are not well-practiced in it), far too many people take everything literally, misreading works of abstract literature describing a personal internal journey as blueprints to create a literal (yet impossible) external paradise. I suspect that fundamental misunderstanding is where most of the horrors attributed to religion comes from, but as I said, it's something I'm still looking into.
Wonderful exploration of the topic! Thank you!
I actually want to be an artist and would be willing to sacrifice my entire life just to paint that one particular creature, I mean the most beautiful creature I've ever seen.
Not gonna lie in my entire life, I want no fame, riches, power, influence, or whatever else what others want
But I only want one thing and that is to be able to capture his ethereal beauty in a painting.
I want that painting to be able captivate and mesmerize anyone who sees that painting regardless of their gender, age, race, or sexuality, just like how he's able to do that in real life.
I want the painting to act like it's freely dancing yet gracefully too like a butterfly just like how when you see him dance in real life. Like a breathe of fresh air so refreshing yet so delicate.
And I want them to hear his angelic voice too through the painting, and make everyone who sees the painting soothes their souls, just like how he can even stop babies from crying just from the moment they hear his singing voice.
I want to capture all of those things in a painting. Though I know it's impossible, I mean a lot of professional and well known artist have already draw and painted him but they still can't really draw him. Cause even if they completely succeed of capturing his face, they can't capture his beauty.
But anyways, it's just crazy how these artist made him their art muse, well it's not entirely crazy cause I mean who wouldn't? He's completely a walking piece of art and he looks completely like a painting.
That's how most people describe his beauty mostly coming from men since they can't fully describe his beauty 😅.
I've also read poems about his beauty too written by a well known poet, and even his portraits are even being displayed in a famous museum in Paris and it attracts a lot of crowd. There are even cafe all over the world that has only his pics as decorations 😅.
Even in Europe they even made a coffee out of his name.
Anyways, what else can I say?
He's just too beautiful to be real.
Well those words are according to those people who have seen him in real life.
In fact they were a lot of post how they were so mad because camera's does not justify how beautiful and ethereal he is in real life.
A lot of comments even says that people just don't understand that he is a billion times more ethereal in real life to the point that he doesn't even look real.
Though it might seem like I'm exaggerating, I'm not cause you can literally see those words in social media.
But the most unbelievable thing is, he doesn't look beautiful, he IS BEAUTIFUL.
Like if you ever see him, you'll now the big difference between looking beautiful and BEING beautiful.
Impressive segue.
The iron age cometh!
to me the biggest changes among the four beauties is diaochan, she in the original was meant to be a symbol of devotion to country in time of need as the warlord she try to seduce was dongzhuo a tyrant, and dongzhuo adopted son lubu, the thing i hate often seeing in a lot of adaptation was that often diaochan and lubu had a chemistry or even a secret affair together, i believe this is impossible, the thing is i believe she never loved him for a second, she was meant to be a bringer of the wolves within lubu heart, adding that even if diaochan was just a myth (there are almost no record mentioned her) lubu would have killed his father anyway, so having them had chemistry break the purpose she existed in the book in the first place, i just hope that this type of adaptation may stopped as it is kinda became a common theme between them, ive seen game that have these two have a chemistry together (not just dynasty warriors)
it is sad how this all went down, maybe im a bit too picky but hey its just my opinion
I put my butt on a canvas after sitting in "gravy", and the artwork created was so beautiful, everyone globally started recently wearing masks out of shame, for their faces could not compare to the same beauty. I like, have a face and shit, so naturally everyone now goes to school from the age of around 5 until around 18, and some take post secondary school. Why? So they don't have to leave the building for around 8 hours per day to prevent the chance they might observe my face, and feel inadequate for the rest of their lives.
That's the reason things happen, because of my face. I hope my descriptions have created a wonderful experience for you.
the beautiful women remind me both of Ito's tomie and Oda's Boa Hancock
11:22 Diogenes: *“Behold a **-man-** horse!”*
"Horseness" I almost died!
This is a little encouraging for me, because I'm kinda bad at describing characters in my work. heh.
TY, sometimes I feel inferior as a writer compared to artists till you articulated this
Tale Foundry, please do a video explaining in detail about Korean mythology. It's not quite heard of much it's tales and legends.
Maybe you could also ask Storied! It's by PBS on TH-cam
@@calladricosplays thank you for the suggestion. I will try to ask in the comment section of the TH-cam channel within one of its recent videos.
When the creator is so talented you even feel inspired by the sponsor be like: