Sometimes I wish I could TROMBE OVERRIDE! any silly argument on the Internet. It would be a pretty cool thing to step in while people are arguing about power levels, yell "TROMBE!" and bring the quarrel to a screeching halt.
it makes sense that this overwhelms any other theme on screen at the time, the instrument's name is the same as the mech Trombe is the Italian word for Trumpets. the only theme more overpowering than the mere presence of Ratsel is that of a mech who's design has speakers on it.
@aliastheabnormal Anime has so many important events skipped. Notably the Shield and Sword events involving Tasuku(pilot of Giganscudo) and Sanger, amongst many things. Tetsuya is the main character of Great Mazinger. In SRW he is usually potrayed as an exceptional ace pilot, but in any other sources(lot of them that has been included in canon, mind you) he is pushed into crazy levels, one of them have Sanger's looks implying that he is scared of Tetsuya, hes just that insane
@alenofbellwood I didn't say it was the strongest ever--others are stronger, but they have their specialties. What Strike Freedom has is the perfect balance between long-range power, close-range power, speed, maneuverability, and defense. Others may be more powerful in a particular category (like the Gundam 00 Raiser being UNPARALLELED in Close-Range Combat :D ), but Strike Freedom is the strongest "all-around" machine.
@bitrel07 I forgot other SRW Alpha units like GGGG and Dis Astraganaunt. Without the GC, GGGG's nearly god-like power and defense is insane to levels of other units. Besides it took in ton of unrelenting damage from a regeneration "god" that was his opponent and still won in the end, Guy himself is a pilot to acknowledge as he faced death several times but won. He has guts that most other pilots don't have with exceptions to Kyosuke "Luck" Nambu and Sanger "Zankantou" Zombolt.
@alenofbellwood You could make an argument for 00 Raiser (00 Gundam + 0 Raiser) being up there seeing how it pretty much breaks reality with teleports, projects a massive beam saber with a length of at least 100+ kilometers, and the GN particles tend to do more than Minovsky particles. In any case...
@screwtokaiba DGG's can deal are big damage in any situation. DGG-XAM3C DyLioOh (DaiRaiOh) and JINRAI (it's predecessor) are shown to have critical power levels. JINRAI has extreme speed while DyLioOh has almost hax power. DyGenGuar's low hit and dodge are replaced by insane attack power, when near the Aussenseiter it can almost 1-hit KO an opponent. Aussenseiter has lower attack but has superior speed and dodge compared to nearly all other mechs in any SRW game.
@screwtokaiba Anyway you have to understand that Gundams tech was developed by humans while OG's original tech was derived from the Aerogators systems. Even the black hole engine that the colonies built was unstable until Shu got his hands on one and he comes from a world whose technology is very different and could have used it to fix the BH engine. If Londo bell had to canonically fight evil aliens they would have better stuff lying around.
@aliastheabnormal SRW canon isnt something that can be relied For starter : 1. Damage number wise, SRW shows that the strongest unit in SRW is Kotetsushin Jeeg, Ideon, and Mazinkaiser, in that order. Thats definitely not true since Shin Getter and in extension emperor is broken 2. The absurdities of Shin Getter and Kaiser in Alpha 3. Also. OG tech arent fully based on Aerogaters. IIRC Auss and Dg is based on Grun/Bein(respectively Sanger's and Ratsel's unit)
Well, considering SRW has power level that goes into : -Interstellar explosion ? Commonplace weapon -Destroy the planet ? meh not so weird -Destroy a barrier that can defend against an attack from space by Balmar(who has power that is capable to destroy a galaxy), why not ? -Make a dimension hole just by using energy equivalent to punching ? hell yeah Its more like, if not for game balance almost every Gundam looks like a joke in comparison to SRW cast.
@screwtokaiba If i remember Tetsuya is the guy in the Giganscudo, right? I'm not sure anymore. I never finished OG1 or played 2 much less the Alpha series. ALL of my OG knowledge comes from the anime.
Don von Frustratio lol u want to know what does the name Trombe mean?Trombe is Trombe,thats all,u just need some more Trombe override theme and its will be ok.
@bitrel07 Well, technically Tetsuya is the best pilot in Alpha universe, considering that 60 % of Alpha Gaiden plot is related to Tetsuya, and all the absurdity he does he definitely have better guts than Guy, and a far better pilot(for example, Touma become so good in short time thanks to his arranged training schedule). Status wise, Shin getter is usually pretty standard in SRW, not to the broken extend of Kaiser. But Emperor is stronger than anything in Alpha so... yeah complicated
Aussenritter and DaiDenGuard are actually Super Robots, Huckbeins call themselves Personal Troopers so that Tomino dosen't sue their asses just like with Cybuster. And the Lion is an Armored Module, that is basically an OZ Leo with wings, blows up good, and its only contribution was getting Ryuto out of the DC and that fat psycho Nakajima. And even then Ryuto is really lame until he gets the MKIII.
@aliastheabnormal The problem here is 1. Daizengar and Aussy's power level is vague at best, logically those two are(despite how awesome it was) amongst the weaker OG character and weaker than lots of Gundams(stilll doesnt change the fact that they are awesome) 2. The enemy that 00Q fight is not comparable to the one in SRW, at least when we reach Balmar and Database level TLDR - lack of story, Shin getter pwns
@aliastheabnormal It only happen in OG when your best unit are SRX. SRX... at least before Banpreios isnt as hax as the higher level of OG characters. Banpreios however is another story, but still not exactly the strongest OG Also, thats exactly why i said their powers are vague. Sanger and Ratsel does lots of awesome feats, and pilotting skill wise, might be better than most character(in Alpha maybe only Tetsuya "godmode" tsurugi can match sanger)
@KatomaMundara That was a joke. If I decided to include every MS from every single MSV, side manga, and G Gen game in a power ranking chart, I'd go mad.
@Kairadragon Don't go there. That's an entirely different set of arguments :) Let's just all agree to get out of Argument Alley and enjoy some epic music.
@screwtokaiba What about Astragant, the mech that Ingram pilots? Plus when you meant that OG is pretty fucked up? Touma is an OG character and so are his mechs, making you previous response contradict your current response.
@Kairadragon I hear you, and combining rifles Strike-Freedom Style actually makes sense. :D @BrotherhoodOfTheDead In what way is the Strike Freedom (the most powerul all-around Gundam in the MULTIVERSE) an "abomination"?!?!? @AioriadLeo Why is Kairadragon's statement "blasphemy"?
@aliastheabnormal cont : But Alpha wise, DZG and Aussy might be stronger than every OG other than Shin Ryu(which is hax) Astranagant(which is basicaly reverse Ideon) or DRO(which is of the same class as DZG in a way). The only special thing about DZG is the pilot motion thing(which makes the implication of Sanger sword skill really scary). Compared to higher OG(read : NDS og), and allied units(Alpha Gaiden stage 36 is your answer) DZG doesnt seems all that absurd
@VaativonRagnas Strike Freedom, along with most CE Gundams and AC Gundams are all plot armor, so any comparison or competition between them for the best Gundam of all time is pointless since they all abuse plothax and beam spam like no other.
@screwtokaiba There are others that make the Shin Getter look puny in power. Take the normal Kohryuoh, that beast at capped stats is better than nearly all other SRW mechs at capped stats. Neo Granzon (A. Gaiden, since OG Gaiden he's weaker in that game) whose power can destroy a planetary system in one shot when not even at full power, Astraganaunt which can essentially remove anything from existance regardless of anything, and finally the Dark Brain from OGG.
@bitrel07 Isnt Dis Astra stronger than Astra ? Well, about the ****ed up OG, i mean before i bring in Valzacard, were talking about a mech that uses minimal power to blow several stars, reality warper, and something that can easilly kill a god(which is not an OG). Its pretty funny how Valzacard can easilly beat all of them barring Getter Emperor(since Valzacard survived Big Bang, and at least as strong as Dis Astranagant when it is broken) which show how absurd the OG is.
@screwtokaiba Except Turn A who can launch nukes which are stored in the other side of rhe universe. And 00Q whom can pacify an entire race of invincible liquid Borg.
@alenofbellwood Know how all arguments on Internet message boards about which gundam is strongest end? 'And then Turn A Destroys them all' Strike Freedom the Strongest....lawl...
@bitrel07 If its OVA kaiser, yeah it might be. Alpha Kaiser on the other hand is pure hax. By the end of 3, its still not at full power, which is saying something. And Shin is only stronger if it become Emperor anyway... But then again, Dis Astra wont stand a chance against Valzacard Yeah the OG is pretty fucked up
@infringementMAN Not really "new" to it, but I wish that I could deliver unto those people a "befriending"-style beatdown (If you know "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha", you will know what I mean by "befriending" :D ).
I don't get it. But basically i meant that Namco wanted to make a SRW with Aura battler Dunbine. But at that time couldnt get approval from the owners so they made Cybuster and the Maki Sendou series to compensate plot wise. Thank goodness since Masaki and Cybuster are far more awesome than Dunbine.
@screwtokaiba While Tetsuya migt be the best pilot, his mech isn't the strongest. Both Astragant and Dis Astragant could rip both Kaiser and Shin to pieces if not remove them from existance with one attack. Speed is nothing, if your opponent can see you heafing right for you. Touma was incredible as well but needed help from Tetsuya, Guy and Sanger to get that far in the first place.
Also, the BS that Gundam can go circle around Super Robot. COMPLETE BS Its all game balance. Had SRW used the real speed of the unit, were going to see Shin Getter with 15 movement and 250 mobility considering the fact that Shin Getter at 1/5 power output can fly to outer space in 3-5 seconds. No Gundam can do that so far. And Mazinkaiser with Gundam speed(currently Mazinkaiser speed is slightly lower than GGG) if we consider the KS speed and near imprenetable defense
Manga Shin Getter would be totally broken. It ate an enemy base and a chunk of the arctic. If we were given the keys to that, we would be on par with Ideon from Alpha. Not just in terms of power, but the chance The Will of Evolution could think fuck this and decide to destroy humanity. Instrumentality? Please bitch.
@setsunafseieiGN0000 SF is clearly NOT the best over-all Gundam. SF is considered to be a mid-long range combat MS. Look at the weapon it carries. Other than the beam sabers, it is not made for close range combat! (Why do you think we have Infinite Justice? They are sister gundams. And dont even say SF > IJ...the only reason people assume that because Kira is a superior pilot) If any Gundam out there that deserves the title as the best "all-around" gundam, it is Turn A.
Every game Trombe appears in should be rated M for MANLY.
Epic trombe is just to EPIC! the music, the super robot, the pilot itself (Elzam) is to EPICLY GOOD
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Sometimes I wish I could TROMBE OVERRIDE! any silly argument on the Internet. It would be a pretty cool thing to step in while people are arguing about power levels, yell "TROMBE!" and bring the quarrel to a screeching halt.
I've never even heard of this, but now i want to watch it because of this song! :*) beautiful
One of the best versions of Trombe that I've heard. This one sounds very majestic, fitting given who the pilot this corresponds to is.
hit hard like super robot in real robot
evade as fast as real robot in super robot
and can do both in warship
that what i learn from elzam
it makes sense that this overwhelms any other theme on screen at the time, the instrument's name is the same as the mech
Trombe is the Italian word for Trumpets.
the only theme more overpowering than the mere presence of Ratsel is that of a mech who's design has speakers on it.
@aliastheabnormal Anime has so many important events skipped. Notably the Shield and Sword events involving Tasuku(pilot of Giganscudo) and Sanger, amongst many things.
Tetsuya is the main character of Great Mazinger. In SRW he is usually potrayed as an exceptional ace pilot, but in any other sources(lot of them that has been included in canon, mind you) he is pushed into crazy levels, one of them have Sanger's looks implying that he is scared of Tetsuya, hes just that insane
Real men have an spine chillingly epic orchestral version of their theme.
TROMBE, the gundam slayer!
Wow, I need to find a good mecha game, and record myself playing it with this song going on in the background XD
This is such a good song.......
Rastel and Aussensaiter and awesome pair that would still get owned but the troll god of SRW universe.
@alenofbellwood I didn't say it was the strongest ever--others are stronger, but they have their specialties. What Strike Freedom has is the perfect balance between long-range power, close-range power, speed, maneuverability, and defense.
Others may be more powerful in a particular category (like the Gundam 00 Raiser being UNPARALLELED in Close-Range Combat :D ), but Strike Freedom is the strongest "all-around" machine.
@bitrel07 I forgot other SRW Alpha units like GGGG and Dis Astraganaunt. Without the GC, GGGG's nearly god-like power and defense is insane to levels of other units. Besides it took in ton of unrelenting damage from a regeneration "god" that was his opponent and still won in the end, Guy himself is a pilot to acknowledge as he faced death several times but won. He has guts that most other pilots don't have with exceptions to Kyosuke "Luck" Nambu and Sanger "Zankantou" Zombolt.
what a nice song with courage
@alenofbellwood You could make an argument for 00 Raiser (00 Gundam + 0 Raiser) being up there seeing how it pretty much breaks reality with teleports, projects a massive beam saber with a length of at least 100+ kilometers, and the GN particles tend to do more than Minovsky particles. In any case...
@Blackchibisan Heck, he pilots the Kurogane and evades half of the attack blasted at him. It's so scary that it's overwhelmingly manly.
@screwtokaiba DGG's can deal are big damage in any situation. DGG-XAM3C DyLioOh (DaiRaiOh) and JINRAI (it's predecessor) are shown to have critical power levels. JINRAI has extreme speed while DyLioOh has almost hax power. DyGenGuar's low hit and dodge are replaced by insane attack power, when near the Aussenseiter it can almost 1-hit KO an opponent. Aussenseiter has lower attack but has superior speed and dodge compared to nearly all other mechs in any SRW game.
actual fire
I saw some stuff earlier... does no one remember that Shin Getter could one-shot the last boss in SRW 4? It owned bones back then.
MEGAMAN ROCKS!!! Oh wrong place to comment... Cos I was feeling all Megaman-y when I heard this song... ^^,
While the Lion is a Mobile Armor, Huckebeins are indeed mobile suits.
@screwtokaiba Anyway you have to understand that Gundams tech was developed by humans while OG's original tech was derived from the Aerogators systems. Even the black hole engine that the colonies built was unstable until Shu got his hands on one and he comes from a world whose technology is very different and could have used it to fix the BH engine. If Londo bell had to canonically fight evil aliens they would have better stuff lying around.
The name is Personal Trooper... or Real Trooper (RTX series) and the Lion is an Armored Module (DCAM series).
@aliastheabnormal SRW canon isnt something that can be relied
For starter :
1. Damage number wise, SRW shows that the strongest unit in SRW is Kotetsushin Jeeg, Ideon, and Mazinkaiser, in that order. Thats definitely not true since Shin Getter and in extension emperor is broken
2. The absurdities of Shin Getter and Kaiser in Alpha
3. Also. OG tech arent fully based on Aerogaters. IIRC Auss and Dg is based on Grun/Bein(respectively Sanger's and Ratsel's unit)
Well, considering SRW has power level that goes into :
-Interstellar explosion ? Commonplace weapon
-Destroy the planet ? meh not so weird
-Destroy a barrier that can defend against an attack from space by Balmar(who has power that is capable to destroy a galaxy), why not ?
-Make a dimension hole just by using energy equivalent to punching ? hell yeah
Its more like, if not for game balance almost every Gundam looks like a joke in comparison to SRW cast.
@Kairadragon I does have twin rifles. Lazorkanon W.
WHO CARES ABOUT GUNDAMS, TROMBE OVERIDES ALL!!!! EARGASMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I JUST CAME FROM THE VERY SOUND OF EPICNESS
Gundam has no place in this video.
TROMBE! has no equal.
@screwtokaiba If i remember Tetsuya is the guy in the Giganscudo, right? I'm not sure anymore. I never finished OG1 or played 2 much less the Alpha series. ALL of my OG knowledge comes from the anime.
Such a Heavenly Trombe! What does Trombe mean anyway?
Don von Frustratio Trombe is the name of Elzam's pet stallion horse
thomas86800 I know that! I mean what does the name mean? (also do u know if Elzam's horse also dieds in the incident where his wife also died?)
Don von Frustratio lol u want to know what does the name Trombe mean?Trombe is Trombe,thats all,u just need some more Trombe override theme and its will be ok.
thomas86800 Heh I guess ur right. Trombe is Trombe. I suppose that's all that matters.
Don von Frustratio haha now seriously,i think it was only a name elzam has chosen for his horse,but now Trombe is an icon,no need much to explain
@Kairadragon - I was expecting "like Wing Zero does" but hey. :)
Gundams are no match for TROMBE!
@alenofbellwood Yes, Gundam may win against Super Robot Wars, but at least we know who's theme will be playing no matter what.
@bitrel07 Well, technically Tetsuya is the best pilot in Alpha universe, considering that 60 % of Alpha Gaiden plot is related to Tetsuya, and all the absurdity he does he definitely have better guts than Guy, and a far better pilot(for example, Touma become so good in short time thanks to his arranged training schedule).
Status wise, Shin getter is usually pretty standard in SRW, not to the broken extend of Kaiser. But Emperor is stronger than anything in Alpha so... yeah complicated
Aussenritter and DaiDenGuard are actually Super Robots, Huckbeins call themselves Personal Troopers so that Tomino dosen't sue their asses just like with Cybuster. And the Lion is an Armored Module, that is basically an OZ Leo with wings, blows up good, and its only contribution was getting Ryuto out of the DC and that fat psycho Nakajima. And even then Ryuto is really lame until he gets the MKIII.
@KetsuRosataMalnor Wrong
Daizengar combined with Trombe is the strongest.
Real men ride each other
@aliastheabnormal The problem here is
1. Daizengar and Aussy's power level is vague at best, logically those two are(despite how awesome it was) amongst the weaker OG character and weaker than lots of Gundams(stilll doesnt change the fact that they are awesome)
2. The enemy that 00Q fight is not comparable to the one in SRW, at least when we reach Balmar and Database level
TLDR - lack of story, Shin getter pwns
@pingpongsamuraipanda: Gundam should be overridden here by Trombe!
@screwtokaiba So Tetsuya is the prototype for the SKL guys?
Too many characters too keep track of....
@alenofbellwood You forgot Turn X, Master, Wing Zero, and Devil Gundam. :D
It's probably being overridden XD
@aliastheabnormal It only happen in OG when your best unit are SRX.
SRX... at least before Banpreios isnt as hax as the higher level of OG characters. Banpreios however is another story, but still not exactly the strongest OG
Also, thats exactly why i said their powers are vague. Sanger and Ratsel does lots of awesome feats, and pilotting skill wise, might be better than most character(in Alpha maybe only Tetsuya "godmode" tsurugi can match sanger)
@KatomaMundara
That was a joke. If I decided to include every MS from every single MSV, side manga, and G Gen game in a power ranking chart, I'd go mad.
@alenofbellwood Silly fool, obviously Trombe is the strongest Gundam/mech/song ever. It overrides all.
@screwtokaiba So Zanger's cleaving of Wodan was pure cutscene power?
@Kairadragon Don't go there. That's an entirely different set of arguments :) Let's just all agree to get out of Argument Alley and enjoy some epic music.
Is Cagalli crying? Send in Ratsel and Trome override Kira's plot armor.
What kind of mecha game you looking for? XD
@alenofbellwood You speak truth... I was recently watching trying to decide my favorite... so far it isnt even a Gundam.. SINANJU FTW
real men have a theme that overrides all themes!
@screwtokaiba What about Astragant, the mech that Ingram pilots? Plus when you meant that OG is pretty fucked up? Touma is an OG character and so are his mechs, making you previous response contradict your current response.
Is this that weird version from the OVA?
@Kairadragon I hear you, and combining rifles Strike-Freedom Style actually makes sense. :D
@BrotherhoodOfTheDead In what way is the Strike Freedom (the most powerul all-around Gundam in the MULTIVERSE) an "abomination"?!?!?
@AioriadLeo Why is Kairadragon's statement "blasphemy"?
They met Black History Turn-A Gundam. That's why they're not here.
@aliastheabnormal cont : But Alpha wise, DZG and Aussy might be stronger than every OG other than Shin Ryu(which is hax) Astranagant(which is basicaly reverse Ideon) or DRO(which is of the same class as DZG in a way). The only special thing about DZG is the pilot motion thing(which makes the implication of Sanger sword skill really scary).
Compared to higher OG(read : NDS og), and allied units(Alpha Gaiden stage 36 is your answer) DZG doesnt seems all that absurd
@Kairadragon He doesn't to. If he combines, its with Dygengard. Then EVERYTHING IS DOOMED.
@srwgundam to be honest i'd go with the Destiny or Nu gundam since they have the best of everything
@VaativonRagnas Strike Freedom, along with most CE Gundams and AC Gundams are all plot armor, so any comparison or competition between them for the best Gundam of all time is pointless since they all abuse plothax and beam spam like no other.
Archibald must of disliked this video
It's not a mobile suit, it's a lion/huckebein/DGG
Aren't Armored Modules based on OZ's mobile suits?
@screwtokaiba There are others that make the Shin Getter look puny in power. Take the normal Kohryuoh, that beast at capped stats is better than nearly all other SRW mechs at capped stats. Neo Granzon (A. Gaiden, since OG Gaiden he's weaker in that game) whose power can destroy a planetary system in one shot when not even at full power, Astraganaunt which can essentially remove anything from existance regardless of anything, and finally the Dark Brain from OGG.
@setsunafseieiGN0000 - You new to the concept that other people hate everything about SEED?
@bitrel07 Isnt Dis Astra stronger than Astra ? Well, about the ****ed up OG, i mean before i bring in Valzacard, were talking about a mech that uses minimal power to blow several stars, reality warper, and something that can easilly kill a god(which is not an OG). Its pretty funny how Valzacard can easilly beat all of them barring Getter Emperor(since Valzacard survived Big Bang, and at least as strong as Dis Astranagant when it is broken) which show how absurd the OG is.
@screwtokaiba Except Turn A who can launch nukes which are stored in the other side of rhe universe. And 00Q whom can pacify an entire race of invincible liquid Borg.
@VaativonRagnas But yeah, SINANJU FTW.
I actually prefer Zeon mobile suits over Gundams and Feddie mobile suits...
@alenofbellwood Know how all arguments on Internet message boards about which gundam is strongest end?
'And then Turn A Destroys them all'
Strike Freedom the Strongest....lawl...
@screwtokaiba Well yeah, but that's too much power, I didn't want to overload people's minds.
@bitrel07 If its OVA kaiser, yeah it might be. Alpha Kaiser on the other hand is pure hax. By the end of 3, its still not at full power, which is saying something. And Shin is only stronger if it become Emperor anyway...
But then again, Dis Astra wont stand a chance against Valzacard
Yeah the OG is pretty fucked up
I'd love to see him sue himself, I mean it's would be some hilarious stuff. Gotta admit that, well actually you don't but yeah.
@infringementMAN Not really "new" to it, but I wish that I could deliver unto those people a "befriending"-style beatdown (If you know "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha", you will know what I mean by "befriending" :D ).
@setsunafseieiGN0000
SF is the strongest Gundam ever? I can hear Unicorn, V2, DX, God, and Turn A Gundams all laughing.
Swank.
@infringementMAN
There's always OG3 man. Here's hoping Sanger and Ratsel get even MORE epic.
@Kairadragon Yo dawg, we heard you like Gundam, so we put some gundam in your gundam so you can gundam while you gundam
I don't get it. But basically i meant that Namco wanted to make a SRW with Aura battler Dunbine. But at that time couldnt get approval from the owners so they made Cybuster and the Maki Sendou series to compensate plot wise. Thank goodness since Masaki and Cybuster are far more awesome than Dunbine.
Gundam got overrided anyway
@screwtokaiba While Tetsuya migt be the best pilot, his mech isn't the strongest. Both Astragant and Dis Astragant could rip both Kaiser and Shin to pieces if not remove them from existance with one attack. Speed is nothing, if your opponent can see you heafing right for you. Touma was incredible as well but needed help from Tetsuya, Guy and Sanger to get that far in the first place.
Also, the BS that Gundam can go circle around Super Robot.
COMPLETE BS
Its all game balance. Had SRW used the real speed of the unit, were going to see Shin Getter with 15 movement and 250 mobility considering the fact that Shin Getter at 1/5 power output can fly to outer space in 3-5 seconds. No Gundam can do that so far. And Mazinkaiser with Gundam speed(currently Mazinkaiser speed is slightly lower than GGG) if we consider the KS speed and near imprenetable defense
Manga Shin Getter would be totally broken. It ate an enemy base and a chunk of the arctic. If we were given the keys to that, we would be on par with Ideon from Alpha. Not just in terms of power, but the chance The Will of Evolution could think fuck this and decide to destroy humanity. Instrumentality? Please bitch.
How odd. I keep hitting like and it does nothing.
@setsunafseieiGN0000 SF is clearly NOT the best over-all Gundam. SF is considered to be a mid-long range combat MS. Look at the weapon it carries. Other than the beam sabers, it is not made for close range combat! (Why do you think we have Infinite Justice? They are sister gundams. And dont even say SF > IJ...the only reason people assume that because Kira is a superior pilot) If any Gundam out there that deserves the title as the best "all-around" gundam, it is Turn A.