The title of the painting that Jin was looking at is "The Fall of the Rebel Angels". This was painted in1562 by the Netherlandish Renaissance artist, Pieter Bruegel the Elder. The Fall of Rebel Angels depicts Lucifer along with the other fallen angels that have been banished from heaven. The painting symbolizes the conflict between good and evil as well as vice and virtue.
Thank you so much, I always believed it was a Heronymous Bosch painting from his series, The 9 Circles of Hell. It actually feels really good to be corrected. Thank you so much again.
All the MVs are well done, but some (including this) are masterpieces. Everything means something. I used to have a spreadsheet to keep up with all the hints, the repeating items, what MVs they were from, etc... there were multiple groups of us from all over the world who would research into all kinds of things to get the meaning. It was a fun time, and I still have friends from then that I keep in touch with.
hahah spreadsheet 💜😭 seriously man with the quality of music and lyricism of bts, the multifaceted mvs, the twist and turns of the plots of the BU, the stories, topics and complicated albeit weirdly fun games in run bts, etc... I truthfully say that all armys and I mean ALL armys are in someway or some degree really intellectuals honest truly no cap... right? yeah I'm sure I'm right hehehe
Blood, Sweat and Tears is a masterpiece because it it not just a story but it makes you do research. If I was a teacher/professor,I would ask my students to do reach on this . Why, when and where. It would enable them to love research rather than HAVE to do it. My next request for them would be IDOL….then….what would be your guess? Love BTS!!!!!
I adore your un ending love for Lumpens and how BTS works with them to create videos where every frame is a work of art and it works and flows from scene so well. It’s just remarkable.
My father was a scenic artist in Hollywood for more than 45 years. He was freelance. His art was truly amazing. You have most likely seen his art multiple times. He even did "Star Wars!" Michael Jackson, music videos, Billy Jean, Black and White, Bad, and even 0ne of his pepsi commercials (not the one where his hair caught fire). Fleetwood Mac "7 wonders, one of "Cher's album covers." This is just a few. He passed in 2017. He would have loved this!!! Love the way you think because he did the same thing!!! He was old school, did glass mats. Hand painted marble, a lost art!! When you talked about the set, it reminded me. Back then they always built the sets inside most of the time. We did a movie called, "Invaders from Mars and it was after the twightlight movie, where actors got killed during a helicopter scene. Kids were no longer able to shoot scenes outside after dark. So we built the entire farm house indoors so the kid actors could shoot the night scenes! The backing for that movie was 30 feet high by 300 feet long! My father had a camera 's eye, he could start anywhere and stay in perspective!! That is when I truly knew that my father was an artist!! I was in awe! He used an old broom stick handle tide a piece of charcoal to the end of it and stood back and started to schetch on the backing where he wanted things to go! Me I draw stick people, lol. Sorry for the long winded story. Like I said you remind me of him and his passion for his craft!!
The quote above the mirror is in German, but it translates to: “One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.” Friedrich Nietzsche’ The Art in this video: - Pieta (Michelangelo) - The Fall of the Rebel Angels (Pieter Bruegel) - Landscape with the Fall of Icarus. (Pieter Bruegel) - The Lament for Icarus (Herbert James Draper) - Baroque Fresco (Giuaglio Quaglio) - Perseus with the head of Medusa (Benvenuto Cellini) - Livia Drusilla as Ops, goddess of fertility - Laocoon and his Sons - Crouching Venus - Venus de Milo - Venus at the Forge of Vulcan (Francesco Solimena) - Ares Borghese - Diana of Versailles -Angelus Novus (Paul Klee) - Regimental Band (Darsie Japp)
waaaaah u are one very impressive army man, I mean as an individual u r indeed impressive I never thought of truly digging it all... thank u for the info man, waaah now I feel lazy af wahahaha 💜🙏🏼👍🏼
Watching you watch these MVs is like a double dose of pure joy ! I absolutely love your breakdowns on how scenes are structured, pointing out the lighting etc.... whilst a lot of us are watching for the gazillionth time, you never cease to point out something that I previously missed or just didn't pay attention to... Thank you Jeff (and to Taylor ! ) for taking us on your journey of learning more of the intricacies that go into the making of these videos.
Another great reaction. It is funny to see Jeff almost speechless. I wanted to contribute a few insights into some of the art and symbolism in the MV. (I'd have to write 50 pages to cover it all and do it justice, so I'll just hit a few of them.) As most Army know this album and this song was inspired by the novel: 'Demian: The Story of Emil Sinclair's Youth' by Herman Hesse. The quotes read by RM in the Wings short films and in this MV are from Demian. Jeff stopped early on in "room one" of the museum to take in the painting that Jin was looking at alone. The painting is 'The Fall of the Rebel Angels' by Pieter Bruegel the Elder. In it the fallen angels are depicted as half human and half animal and half human and half demon. The first introduction to the fallen angel them of this MV. The classical piece of music that plays in the background at this moment is Bach's 'Mass in B minor'. In the next room where everyone is gathered together, in the background there is a neon sign with English writing. Only part of it shows, but I think it says: "The Tempter" which would tie in with the quote from 'Demian' that RM recites in the MV. The green liquid appears to be Absinthe, also known as the "green fairy". It's a hallucinogenic alcohol. It's prepared by putting a spoon over a glass of Absinthe and melting a sugar cube into it. It was believed to inspire great creativity in artists. It also suggests that at least part of the time what the members are seeing and feeling maybe influenced by this drug. When V is sitting on the edge of the balcony the painting in front of him that was Green Screened is 'Landscape with the Fall of Icarus'. When Suga finally plays the organ in that beautiful scene with the sculpture, he is playing Passacaglia in D minor by Buxtehude. This exact piece of music is described in Demian. Remember the quote that we hear RM recite in the "red scene" with the balloon? The quote is also from Demian and it is: "He too was a tempter; he, too, was a link to the second [world], the evil world with which I no longer wanted to have anything to do." There is the scene of Jin in front of a mirror. Above the mirror is another quote, written in German, which we only see briefly. It was written by Friedrich Nietzsche and translates to: "You still have to have Chaos inside you in order to be able to give birth to a dancing star." Finally, when Jin looks into the mirror, his own face is falling apart. This ties into the quote above the mirror. No one is truly pure, there must be chaos in order to achieve greatness. In order to fly. For anyone who is geeky enough and wanting to know far more detail about the visual symbolism and art found in the MV, I HIGHLY recommend the essay written about the art and symbolism in the MV by writer Thilde Kold Holdt: "Blood Sweat & Tears Symbolism". She is a real Army and also is fluent in Korean. Her fantasy novels are really great! You can find her essay here: www.thildekoldholdt.com/post/2016/10/10/thoery-blood-sweat-tears-symbolism I hope this provides some context and answers some lingering questions Jeff and others might have about this most amazing MV. A masterpiece.
I know you have special interest in the shooting sketch but I think you should add the explanation videos also. They enhance the shooting sketches by leaps and bounds because it gives answers to some of the questions as to why the director made the choices he made during filming. There are so many "Easter eggs " both large and small that must be subtly filmed around without it being obvious. This MV is chock full of little gifts that once they are pointed out you will know the depth you must pay attention to detail to get the entire picture and message that is embedded .
Jeff has become one of my favorite reactors! I LOVE hearing his comments on the camera work and behind the scenes information that we otherwise wouldn’t be as knowledgeable on, or think about. His appreciation for the beauty of creating something is amazing to see
This is the first Bangtan mv I have watched in 2016, when I first became interested in them. And that is what made me an Army. It is 2023 now and I still get goosebumps with how beautiful, artful and truly a masterpiece this is. I call this mv brain food coz there are so many literary, cultural, biblical and artistic references 😋 .. my adhd brain says yum! Never ever magsasawa
I always thought that those were the organ pipes over Suga's head. (Now I'm not so sure.) I watched this video about 20 times the first day I saw it; there was so much to see. And I still see new things each time I watch this. Genius!
This video is packed and layered with meaning and references. Knowledge of the novel, Christianity, classical arts is needed to get many of the references. There are very helpful explanation videos and articles. But there is so much nothing captures it all.
There have been several masters level thesis' written about this video. The symbolism, metaphor, conflict, ethics, etc etc are unbelievable. It also references the book, "Demian" by Hermann Hesse. I could go on. You should watch it Frame by Frame and look at Everything in the background, even more than the dancing. (RM doesn't have an IQ of 148 for nothing!) See Army's list of art work elsewhere in these comments. (Thank you for that, by the way)
Quick note about the "sculpture" over Suga's head while he's playing the organ (referenced at 20:12)-- it's not a sculpture, those are the organ pipes.
I love this MV! And your reactions too! They really don't play around with their videos. It's all detailed and meaningful. Hug, to you and Taylor from Portugal 💜 There's a representation, in huge dimensions, of the black angel in Yet to Come MV. 😉
Hello! Would you ever react to BTS RUN? I know that it does not have much content in the creative side or filmography side, but damn, those cameraman filming BTS RUN are something else, the way they gotta run following the members! Respect!
Just in case of confusion (because I'd like to see that too) you mean Run BTS, the variety show, not Run the song 😁 There are a couple of episodes where JK seriously outruns his camera person! And one where V makes the staff part of his roleplay. I'm not sure any of it would really hit what Jeff is watching for, but it's fun... Maybe the zombies one? 🤣
If you ever get to meet the Lumpens group you have got to film it. I hope you do one day. And now you know why it is a rabbit hole with BTS. There are so many easter eggs and references. ARMYs are great researchers. I think BTS has single-handedly raised the education level just with the MVs. 12:26 yes Jeff we know you and we know you are watching again, that's the way ARMY finds this stuff.
I don't know if it is still out there or not buy there used to be an ARMY made video that identified and gave the significance of each art piece and also the two classic music samples...it was such an amazing video and so in depth.
I suggest you watch the Japanese version of this video because it is stunning as well. However, don't try to do a reaction video to it because you'll get a copyright strike. Just watch and enjoy it yourself.
BTSの花様年賀の公式MVを最初から順番に見てみてほしいです。ARMYが花様年賀を解説した動画も見てみると分かりやすいかもしれないです。全てが繋がっています。 I want you to watch the official music video of BTS' flower-like New Year's Day from the beginning.It might be easy to understand if you watch a video of ARMY explaining the flowers and New Year's greetings.Everything is connected.
The BTS members do have a say in the video. The members watch and if it does not look like they want or if it feels not right, it is a do over on these parts
I always hear reactors comment on how amazing BTS music videos are… I must admit, you made me realise how under appreciated the people behind the camera are… it’s true, they have exceptional talent and know exactly what to do with the cameras and the shots they take. BTS are amazing!! But I also appreciate everyone involved in making their music videos. Thank you 🙏🏼💜💜💜💜
You looked down when jins face cracked at the end. You missed it. I feel like you're missing a key image when coming up with your hypothesis. I didn't appreciate that.
The title of the painting that Jin was looking at is "The Fall of the Rebel Angels". This was painted in1562 by the Netherlandish Renaissance artist, Pieter Bruegel the Elder. The Fall of Rebel Angels depicts Lucifer along with the other fallen angels that have been banished from heaven. The painting symbolizes the conflict between good and evil as well as vice and virtue.
Thank you so much, I always believed it was a Heronymous Bosch painting from his series, The 9 Circles of Hell. It actually feels really good to be corrected. Thank you so much again.
All the MVs are well done, but some (including this) are masterpieces. Everything means something. I used to have a spreadsheet to keep up with all the hints, the repeating items, what MVs they were from, etc... there were multiple groups of us from all over the world who would research into all kinds of things to get the meaning. It was a fun time, and I still have friends from then that I keep in touch with.
hahah spreadsheet 💜😭 seriously man with the quality of music and lyricism of bts, the multifaceted mvs, the twist and turns of the plots of the BU, the stories, topics and complicated albeit weirdly fun games in run bts, etc... I truthfully say that all armys and I mean ALL armys are in someway or some degree really intellectuals honest truly no cap... right? yeah I'm sure I'm right hehehe
Blood, Sweat and Tears is a masterpiece because it it not just a story but it makes you do research. If I was a teacher/professor,I would ask my students to do reach on this . Why, when and where. It would enable them to love research rather than HAVE to do it. My next request for them would be IDOL….then….what would be your guess? Love BTS!!!!!
I adore your un ending love for Lumpens and how BTS works with them to create videos where every frame is a work of art and it works and flows from scene so well. It’s just remarkable.
My father was a scenic artist in Hollywood for more than 45 years.
He was freelance. His art was truly amazing. You have most likely seen his art multiple times. He even did "Star Wars!" Michael Jackson, music videos, Billy Jean, Black and White, Bad, and even 0ne of his pepsi commercials (not the one where his hair caught fire). Fleetwood Mac "7 wonders, one of "Cher's album covers." This is just a few. He passed in 2017. He would have loved this!!! Love the way you think because he did the same thing!!! He was old school, did glass mats. Hand painted marble, a lost art!! When you talked about the set, it reminded me. Back then they always built the sets inside most of the time. We did a movie called, "Invaders from Mars and it was after the twightlight movie, where actors got killed during a helicopter scene. Kids were no longer able to shoot scenes outside after dark. So we built the entire farm house indoors so the kid actors could shoot the night scenes! The backing for that movie was 30 feet high by 300 feet long! My father had a camera 's eye, he could start anywhere and stay in perspective!! That is when I truly knew that my father was an artist!! I was in awe! He used an old broom stick handle tide a piece of charcoal to the end of it and stood back and started to schetch on the backing where he wanted things to go! Me I draw stick people, lol. Sorry for the long winded story. Like I said you remind me of him and his passion for his craft!!
The quote above the mirror is in German, but it translates to: “One must still have chaos in oneself to be able to give birth to a dancing star.”
Friedrich Nietzsche’
The Art in this video:
- Pieta (Michelangelo)
- The Fall of the Rebel Angels (Pieter Bruegel)
- Landscape with the Fall of Icarus. (Pieter Bruegel)
- The Lament for Icarus (Herbert James Draper)
- Baroque Fresco (Giuaglio Quaglio)
- Perseus with the head of Medusa
(Benvenuto Cellini)
- Livia Drusilla as Ops, goddess of fertility
- Laocoon and his Sons
- Crouching Venus
- Venus de Milo
- Venus at the Forge of Vulcan (Francesco Solimena)
- Ares Borghese
- Diana of Versailles
-Angelus Novus (Paul Klee)
- Regimental Band (Darsie Japp)
waaaaah u are one very impressive army man, I mean as an individual u r indeed impressive I never thought of truly digging it all... thank u for the info man, waaah now I feel lazy af wahahaha 💜🙏🏼👍🏼
Amazing Suga playing the organ there ~ so much talent in the man!
The words RM said is a fragment of Demian.
Watching you watch these MVs is like a double dose of pure joy ! I absolutely love your breakdowns on how scenes are structured, pointing out the lighting etc.... whilst a lot of us are watching for the gazillionth time, you never cease to point out something that I previously missed or just didn't pay attention to... Thank you Jeff (and to Taylor ! ) for taking us on your journey of learning more of the intricacies that go into the making of these videos.
I feel exactly the same way! Thank you for saying it.
@@evantesseract737 👍
They are simply the best because they give their best
Another great reaction. It is funny to see Jeff almost speechless.
I wanted to contribute a few insights into some of the art and symbolism in the MV. (I'd have to write 50 pages to cover it all and do it justice, so I'll just hit a few of them.) As most Army know this album and this song was inspired by the novel: 'Demian: The Story of Emil Sinclair's Youth' by Herman Hesse. The quotes read by RM in the Wings short films and in this MV are from Demian.
Jeff stopped early on in "room one" of the museum to take in the painting that Jin was looking at alone. The painting is 'The Fall of the Rebel Angels' by Pieter Bruegel the Elder. In it the fallen angels are depicted as half human and half animal and half human and half demon. The first introduction to the fallen angel them of this MV. The classical piece of music that plays in the background at this moment is Bach's 'Mass in B minor'.
In the next room where everyone is gathered together, in the background there is a neon sign with English writing. Only part of it shows, but I think it says: "The Tempter" which would tie in with the quote from 'Demian' that RM recites in the MV.
The green liquid appears to be Absinthe, also known as the "green fairy". It's a hallucinogenic alcohol. It's prepared by putting a spoon over a glass of Absinthe and melting a sugar cube into it. It was believed to inspire great creativity in artists. It also suggests that at least part of the time what the members are seeing and feeling maybe influenced by this drug.
When V is sitting on the edge of the balcony the painting in front of him that was Green Screened is 'Landscape with the Fall of Icarus'.
When Suga finally plays the organ in that beautiful scene with the sculpture, he is playing Passacaglia in D minor by Buxtehude. This exact piece of music is described in Demian.
Remember the quote that we hear RM recite in the "red scene" with the balloon? The quote is also from Demian and it is: "He too was a tempter; he, too, was a link to the second [world],
the evil world with which I no longer wanted to have anything to do." There is the scene of Jin in front of a mirror. Above the mirror is another quote, written in German, which we only see briefly. It was written by Friedrich Nietzsche and translates to: "You still have to have Chaos inside you in order to be able to give birth to a dancing star."
Finally, when Jin looks into the mirror, his own face is falling apart. This ties into the quote above the mirror. No one is truly pure, there must be chaos in order to achieve greatness. In order to fly.
For anyone who is geeky enough and wanting to know far more detail about the visual symbolism and art found in the MV, I HIGHLY recommend the essay written about the art and symbolism in the MV by writer Thilde Kold Holdt: "Blood Sweat & Tears Symbolism". She is a real Army and also is fluent in Korean. Her fantasy novels are really great! You can find her essay here: www.thildekoldholdt.com/post/2016/10/10/thoery-blood-sweat-tears-symbolism
I hope this provides some context and answers some lingering questions Jeff and others might have about this most amazing MV. A masterpiece.
I am so going to read the essay you recommended 💜
Definitely check out the explanation videos for this.
I know you have special interest in the shooting sketch but I think you should add the explanation videos also. They enhance the shooting sketches by leaps and bounds because it gives answers to some of the questions as to why the director made the choices he made during filming. There are so many "Easter eggs " both large and small that must be subtly filmed around without it being obvious. This MV is chock full of little gifts that once they are pointed out you will know the depth you must pay attention to detail to get the entire picture and message that is embedded .
Jeff has become one of my favorite reactors! I LOVE hearing his comments on the camera work and behind the scenes information that we otherwise wouldn’t be as knowledgeable on, or think about. His appreciation for the beauty of creating something is amazing to see
The message is of self discovery choices between good and evil
And that chaos is needed to birth stars ⭐️
Bts are amazing storytellers 💜💜💜💜💜💜💜🇨🇦
Fake love is another mv like this one and the behind the scenes is good too.💜
When you said you wanted to meet these guys I just KNEW you meant the crew 😂😂😂
Me too 😁 it was a great moment
Love watching Jeff’s reactions. 💜💜
That is what I love about your reactions, we get to see it through your eyes/expertise, borahae. 🎥💜
This is the first Bangtan mv I have watched in 2016, when I first became interested in them. And that is what made me an Army. It is 2023 now and I still get goosebumps with how beautiful, artful and truly a masterpiece this is. I call this mv brain food coz there are so many literary, cultural, biblical and artistic references 😋 .. my adhd brain says yum! Never ever magsasawa
I always thought that those were the organ pipes over Suga's head. (Now I'm not so sure.) I watched this video about 20 times the first day I saw it; there was so much to see. And I still see new things each time I watch this. Genius!
Hi,,,it nice to be back,,, thank you ,,, it’s learning time,,,yeah💜💜💜🇦🇪🇵🇭
Hi! Love to see you smilling in your reactions, you are always surprise kkk a kiss from South Brazil ..a fan
This video is packed and layered with meaning and references. Knowledge of the novel, Christianity, classical arts is needed to get many of the references. There are very helpful explanation videos and articles. But there is so much nothing captures it all.
Lumpens is the i think stage name of their director he works with almost all of BTS mv's he is soo good
There have been several masters level thesis' written about this video.
The symbolism, metaphor, conflict, ethics, etc etc are unbelievable.
It also references the book, "Demian"
by Hermann Hesse. I could go on.
You should watch it Frame by Frame
and look at Everything in the background, even more than the dancing.
(RM doesn't have an IQ of 148
for nothing!)
See Army's list of art work elsewhere in these comments. (Thank you for that, by the way)
Yeah!! The first one! Did not have the chance to watch the whole thing live. Was waiting for this upload.
BTS has amazing videos I really appreciate the production and designs
Me encanta esa cancion!!!
Their use of atmospherics is amazing.
BTS -Army 🇲🇽💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Quick note about the "sculpture" over Suga's head while he's playing the organ (referenced at 20:12)-- it's not a sculpture, those are the organ pipes.
I love this MV! And your reactions too! They really don't play around with their videos. It's all detailed and meaningful. Hug, to you and Taylor from Portugal 💜
There's a representation, in huge dimensions, of the black angel in Yet to Come MV. 😉
Hello! Would you ever react to BTS RUN? I know that it does not have much content in the creative side or filmography side, but damn, those cameraman filming BTS RUN are something else, the way they gotta run following the members! Respect!
Just in case of confusion (because I'd like to see that too) you mean Run BTS, the variety show, not Run the song 😁
There are a couple of episodes where JK seriously outruns his camera person! And one where V makes the staff part of his roleplay.
I'm not sure any of it would really hit what Jeff is watching for, but it's fun... Maybe the zombies one? 🤣
If you ever get to meet the Lumpens group you have got to film it. I hope you do one day.
And now you know why it is a rabbit hole with BTS. There are so many easter eggs and references. ARMYs are great researchers. I think BTS has single-handedly raised the education level just with the MVs. 12:26 yes Jeff we know you and we know you are watching again, that's the way ARMY finds this stuff.
Yesss! I've been WAITING for Jeff's reaction to this. I knew the visuals would blow him away.
I Love this Song and this MV ❤💜
I don't know if it is still out there or not buy there used to be an ARMY made video that identified and gave the significance of each art piece and also the two classic music samples...it was such an amazing video and so in depth.
¡¡Trabajo duro de todos...mejor imposible!!!
They created this set , from the ground up , for this MV.
I don't normally comment,but I love how interested you are and how you pay attention to detail.🤗💜
I enjoy watching your reactions and your responses
BTS' Spring Day mv please. Another Lumpens masterpiece
I suggest you watch the Japanese version of this video because it is stunning as well. However, don't try to do a reaction video to it because you'll get a copyright strike. Just watch and enjoy it yourself.
😝THANK YOU 💕😌 SIR! FOR YOUR EXPERTISE! AND KNOWLEDGE! AND ALWAYS 💐💜 YOUR APPRECIATION 💞 FOR ALL INVOLVED 😉 COOL RIGHT 👍
Jeff....you need to watch the Parody that BTS did of themselves in BST....its hilarious!....no reaction needed...just watch for a good laugh 💜😉😊
Regarding the two story set. How long does it take to set up something like that? Ik it depends on how many work on it, but I'm still curious.
El otro video que es genial es black swan... Espero lo puedas analizar gracias saludos desde Chile 🇨🇱✌️🤟
BTSの花様年賀の公式MVを最初から順番に見てみてほしいです。ARMYが花様年賀を解説した動画も見てみると分かりやすいかもしれないです。全てが繋がっています。
I want you to watch the official music video of BTS' flower-like New Year's Day from the beginning.It might be easy to understand if you watch a video of ARMY explaining the flowers and New Year's greetings.Everything is connected.
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There are no coincidences in this one.
For full house Jeff had to watch parody on this mv made by BTS )
Aww!
The BTS members do have a say in the video. The members watch and if it does not look like they want or if it feels not right, it is a do over on these parts
I always hear reactors comment on how amazing BTS music videos are… I must admit, you made me realise how under appreciated the people behind the camera are… it’s true, they have exceptional talent and know exactly what to do with the cameras and the shots they take. BTS are amazing!! But I also appreciate everyone involved in making their music videos. Thank you 🙏🏼💜💜💜💜
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React to the parody too! 🤣 They made a parody of their own video i hope you check it out. And Spine Breaker MV 🤭
피땀눈물 일본버전도 흥미롭습니다 추천해요^^
You looked down when jins face cracked at the end. You missed it. I feel like you're missing a key image when coming up with your hypothesis. I didn't appreciate that.
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