Anyone else notice how they talked about WOD?: "We created garrisons". "We created WOW tokens". *Realises there was no content in WOD* "Yeah garrisons were really cool".
Michael M. I honestly think that nothing in WoW's Soundtracks can ever reach how great way of the monk and mistweaver were, that being said Times Change comes very close for me
I started in vanilla and quit almost a month or two after. Was boring, I came back for TBC, played through to WOTLK and quit at the end of it because I started smoking pot, and having sex in school, and came back at the end of WOD beginning of Legion because why not
The PvP in Pandaria sucked dick. It was literally tank v tank. On top of that, there was a 6 month content drought that literally forced everyone to PvP while they waited. It took forever for people to die, and it was a literal CC battle nightmare. I still have nightmares from it. I literally grinded to 45k kills cause i was so bored with the expansion... then ended up quitting.
I feel you man I was here since vanilla and the only thing I didn't like about MoP was the Pandas. I was playing warrior, so it was great because warriors couldn't die in MoP with all the self-heals lol. best xpac for me too gameplay wise
I remember launch day everyone was getting stuck looting and iceskating around on their knees, not being able to do anything for hours. Being stuck in the starting area for the first few hours. Just knee skating. Great times.
my ranking: 1. TBC 2. Classic 3. Wrath 4. MOP 5. Legion 6. WOD 7. Cata That said, I had the most fun playing Classic and Legion, as that is where I played the game more serious and raided and PvPd quite a bit. ppl under me said there is no correct order and I agree. the beautiful thing about this game is that theres something for everyone. I loved challenging 5-man dungeons and long dungeon crawls, thats why I like most about this game.
How about there is no "correct order" because for me cataclysm was great because it felt good while wotlk was behind tbc, cata and classic because i just hadnt that much fun with it even though i was equally "successful" in both expansions. And indeed a huge amount of people love mop but i hated it really much. the only expansion i canceled for a few months
Same, MoP is the only expansion I left for a year, unfun repeat quests and nothing to work towards other then the like 10 different variation of the same mount (not that WoD was any better but at least WoD had a cool setting)
The hate for MoP isn't deserved. The storytelling throughout the zones was excellent, among the best of any expansion. All of the stories for the zones came together well and led into the dungeon and raid stories. The zones looked excellent and had perhaps my favorite music. Classes felt pretty darn good for the most part. PvP wasn't perfect but was fun. I enjoyed scenarios. I felt more immersed in MoP than in any other expansion.. overall (BFA has some great story immersion moments). The main issue I remember from MoP was the layered rep grinds initially at level cap. I still create a new panda now and then just to have fun going through the initial turtle island zone again. So much fun.
9:47 It was at this point. Shaman could no longer use ANY OTHER WEAPONS other than Staffs an Dual Wield.2Hander weapons where disabled an broken. It has been THAT LONG! Shaman only needed dual wield because they could only use 1hand and a Shield or use 2Handed weapons. So we needed Dual Wield. They Disabled 2Hand weapons an made it only work on Dual wield.
Man MOP class design and raids where the fucking best. No shitty pruning and every class felt enjoyable and PVP was very balanced. If only they had been making content more actively.
To be fair. I looooved cataclysms zones. That's about it. But yeah. BC, and Wrath were definitely WoW's prime. As for gameplay/story. And when it still had the hardcore MMO feel. Not seen today. IMO
*MOP is shown* Asmongold: THIS WAS THE WORST! THE WORST! *Isle of Thunder* is shown Asmongold : *Moans with pleasure* *Thunder King is shown* Asmongold: This was good! *nerdgasm face*
Its because Vanilla was a new entire game. The expansions are just expansions. Of course the base game is going to be bigger than the expansions, its always that way
I consider Mop to be the last wow expansion. It was Warlords that introduced many new elements to the gameplay that I strongly do not care for. Every expansion has at least one huge positive change Legion's was Mythic+ keeping 5 man dungeons relevant and challenging , rewarding and allowing those who don't like to raid to continue to progress.
The nightelf turning into a cat and the bear druids in Warcraft made me play NE druid back then. Was very disappointed pretty much to be pushed into heal only :(
“Phasing in the death knight starting zone didn’t make sense” uhhh what? Thousands of people obviously making the most over powered character all at the same time. You had to have it or else people wouldn’t have completed quests.
How funny is that last bit around 51:50 ? The chat notices as Asmon does, that there's a classic loading screen in the background of the final video. I bet you there's 2 possibilities, either Blizzard outsourced this whole documentary production and they never actually caught that, or they deliberately left it in for the hardcore fans as an easter egg. I'd like to believe the latter but the former is more likely. Funny either way
From a PvP perspective cataclysm is probably the best expansion. It took all the features of wotlk and improved upon them, like rogues having to use smoke bomb / los to restealth after gouge instead of gouge just lasting long enough to restealth, hunters not having to macro weapon switch for deterrence or in general have a macro just to switch pets. Basically for everything they "simplified" they did so in such way that you could still outplay your opponent. The game isn't balanced for 1v1, and some classes does have innate advantages against others, but bar healers you could 1v1 any class as any class and this translated well over to arenas as well.
Exactly man, I completely agree with you. Nothing feels rewarding or special or meaningful anymore. That's what happens when you try to give everyone everything and make everything RNG and so on.
Not afraid to admit, i'm a wrath baby, but technically, i started in the last month of TBC, but by god did i love every minute of it and tbh, wrath for me was the right time to start. I Played warcraft from 1-3 as a RTS, but fuck me man, did wrath blow my mind. still to this day it was the best for me, cause i followed the story, not the game. mannnnn, they be good times, 2008 rep fam :D, but hated cata, loved MoP, hated WoD, loved legion. Pure love/hate relationship man :D. Although, excited for BfA. For the Alliance :D:D:D:D:D:D fuck the horde, ya moons
I dont get why asmon hates the lfg system so much, its helped me out tremendously. Way better than sitting in the main city spamming chat for 45mins too find out your healer has too go. Little biased because I got pound fist through the lfg system and its saved me a tremendous amount of time overall. Asmon has twitch as his Lfg he just doesn't want us too have one lol.
Mists of Pandaria brought Battle pets, Flexible Raids (!!!!), Mythic Raid Format, Brawler's Guild, Proving Grounds, New Talent System, among many other things. Not my favorite theme, but definitely one of the expansions that came out truly with the most changes. Felt really like a brand new expansion and most of the changes were really good ones. The expansion also had a very rich story, scenario, music, and great raids too. Sorry, but MoP was definitely one of the best expansions.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh you're serious? Let me laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Ian Hazzikostas (sp) thinks that being able to have people play with anyone from any server is more important than people playing with the same people onthe same server over and over.. which is foolish. Vanilla/TBC were fantastic because there was notoriety on each server (then battlegroup), it was so much better. people had fame and infamy, and guilds were somethign to look up to on your own server.
People laughing on the stream about the vanilla experience with your friends and such, how unreasonable an expectation it was, but in vanilla and TBC I managed to pull 15 real life friends from my hometown, their girlfriends, etc, and only like 3 of us were technically gamers/nerds/whatever. It got most of them into gaming, and we managed to raid all the way up until mid-TBC when my PC broke and I chose to take a 12 year break from the game. Now I pretty much play the game with my brother, 2 friends and a bunch of PuG randomers. It will never be the same experience today, but fuck it, I'm in my 30's now. Most of my friends simply don't have the time to play an MMO anymore.
Wait, the Token costs $15. A month of gametime is $15. One person is essentially buying a month of gametime for another player. How does Blizzard make money off of that?
Well, it was more than the people that played that started playing in high school and college now had families, and they wanted to retain those players.
@Sally Firstly, no. Secondly, even if that was true the strategy of appeasing the playerbase you have rather than doing what you do and appeal to the audience you appeal to is terrible. If it was true that classic WoW appealed to kids then they should've kept on appealing to kids and keep attracting new players, the way stuff like Mario and Zelda has kept on being popular. Mario didn't change to appeal to the now 40 year olds that bought the original, and it still sells like hot cakes.
Blizzard didn't have to shift their strategy, they chose to. Already during TBC there was a heavy focus from Blizzard on player retention, as they thought there was a massive potential audience they were missing out on. They were wrong. All the changes you mentioned were efforts to try to capture more of the casual audience on top of the playerbase they already had. As for the analogy, it's how ALL business is run. Let's say the market audience for flashy cars is 35-50. They're not gonna start making cars for 45-60 in 10 years, because they understand that for every 55 year old no longer interested there's a 30 year old eager to look at their product. Same goes for subscription models like Netflix or Hustler magazine.
You do realize that second paragraph is exactly what I was talking about ? They shifted strategy during TBC because of the Naxx numbers, and the level 10 drop off. They thought they could keep growing by plugging the holes, but they didn't make any significant mark on the early game retention, and any progress they made with keeping casuals engaged in the end-game just opened the tap for hardcore players leaving wider. All of these changes happened long before there was any significant decline in the playerbase. Remember, not only were changes like daily quests, Sunwell badges and tiered raiding implemented during late TBC/early Wrath, but the decision to make these changes most likely had to happen six months to a year (or more) ahead of that due to development time.
Its shame that these dudes didnt mention how they implemented paid realm transfers back in wotlk which was a disaster for all realms with balanced h:a ratio.
I started playing at end of vanilla and was a total scrub, then BC hit and I finally understood the game and hit 70 on my hunter. God damn was it good. Wrath was where I stopped. I still liked it but it was changing too much.
instead of hating on the lfg q system, hate how gimped the normal and heroic dungeons have become. Make the normal dungeon and raid more challenging and less of just a stepping stone to a higher tier dungeon. Because the difficulty has been increased in normal, guildies or lfg pugs would have to talk a bit more to succeed.
MoP was great. Garrison's were a cool idea as far as illustrating how strong your characters had become, but they fell so flat. CRZ and evolving worlds are cool if you're playing by yourself but miserable for trying to make it feel like you are playing with other people. So many times I couldn't play with my friends because we were in different instances of a zone.
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Anyone else notice how they talked about WOD?: "We created garrisons". "We created WOW tokens". *Realises there was no content in WOD* "Yeah garrisons were really cool".
lmao I know right
It's fun how they were so optimistic about BfA back then :DDDD RIP
better than wod
Not a big achievement
12:54 "Telling Stores" he says as the footage shows someone instantly accepting a quest without reading it, gj on that one Blizzard.
The hate MoP gets is ridiculous. It had the best soundtracks after WotLk and the best looking zones, period. The dense of story telling was amazing.
Michael M. I honestly think that nothing in WoW's Soundtracks can ever reach how great way of the monk and mistweaver were, that being said Times Change comes very close for me
Does it get hate? A lot of the comments say they want their classes to go back to the MoP version.
it gets a ton of hate still because of pandas and the asian theme.
Most hardcore fans don’t put soundtracks, zones or story telling as that important - gameplay is most important
But most people think that the classes were at their most fun in Mists of Pandaria.
half of these clowns in chat started with wod but want to talk about how classic was so great
^This, personally I hated vanilla. It was pretty barebones. BC and WotLK was where WoW really shined.
Pusswhip Pfft...Real Men started in Legion.
and a lot of them don't realise that shamans didn't have bloodlust in vanilla.
Wow this little discovery of yours is actually some idiot shit not gonna lie.
I started in vanilla and quit almost a month or two after. Was boring, I came back for TBC, played through to WOTLK and quit at the end of it because I started smoking pot, and having sex in school, and came back at the end of WOD beginning of Legion because why not
Mist of Pandaria wasn't as bad as he is putting it out to be.. I enjoyed mop
The aesthetic was bad at first but the content itself was actually great, along with class design and the dying breath of PvP before WoD killed it.
The PvP in Pandaria sucked dick. It was literally tank v tank. On top of that, there was a 6 month content drought that literally forced everyone to PvP while they waited. It took forever for people to die, and it was a literal CC battle nightmare. I still have nightmares from it. I literally grinded to 45k kills cause i was so bored with the expansion... then ended up quitting.
It was trash. Fuck you.
+Vividly Bro mop pvp is the reason why many people loved that expansion
imo mists is the third best expansion. it does have a couple flaws but it was overall a great expansion for a lot of reasons.
Asmongold is actualy right about the screen at the end being the vanilla login screen. Is the only login screen that has those flames on the bottom.
its from the 2009 documentary lfg thp
He's got a good eye, gotta hand it to him.
As someone who has played since TBC, MoP was by far my favorite expansion.
Fight me.
I feel you man I was here since vanilla and the only thing I didn't like about MoP was the Pandas. I was playing warrior, so it was great because warriors couldn't die in MoP with all the self-heals lol. best xpac for me too gameplay wise
Same, I loved mop. People just hate on it because of the pandas .
5:54 Find somebody who looks at you the way Asmongold looks at the lich king
I remember launch day everyone was getting stuck looting and iceskating around on their knees, not being able to do anything for hours. Being stuck in the starting area for the first few hours. Just knee skating.
Great times.
MoP quickly became one of my favorite expacs right behind LK
my ranking:
1. TBC
2. Classic
3. Wrath
4. MOP
5. Legion
6. WOD
7. Cata
That said, I had the most fun playing Classic and Legion, as that is where I played the game more serious and raided and PvPd quite a bit.
ppl under me said there is no correct order and I agree. the beautiful thing about this game is that theres something for everyone. I loved challenging 5-man dungeons and long dungeon crawls, thats why I like most about this game.
How about there is no "correct order" because for me cataclysm was great because it felt good while wotlk was behind tbc, cata and classic because i just hadnt that much fun with it even though i was equally "successful" in both expansions. And indeed a huge amount of people love mop but i hated it really much. the only expansion i canceled for a few months
Classic LUL
Same, MoP is the only expansion I left for a year, unfun repeat quests and nothing to work towards other then the like 10 different variation of the same mount (not that WoD was any better but at least WoD had a cool setting)
Classic was 10x better than Pandaria, so LUL Pandaria on you.
21:28 lol "and thats pretty much the whole game, it ended after WOTLK"
I cried laughing at that response! I was like: "Where is the lie though?"
It's true. Wasn't the same game afterwards.
zdrasti brotalen :D skoro nov klip?
what
Parker t Im replaying to brotalnia not you
WoD was a glorified commercial for the movie
and, fittingly, the movie was ass
Movie was pretty underwhelming imo too
No the movie was worse than wod the people that made it never played a warcraft game i was not based on the warcraft 1 game like it was suppose to be
@@basillah7650 It was based on the first game.
@@godzilla2k26 It was based on air... read the lore and you will understand the problem with it.
Such a nice transition he's so happy during x mog......then right into LfR and he wants to hide.
You know there's a life hack that makes dungeon finder usless its called play a tank or healer
The hate for MoP isn't deserved. The storytelling throughout the zones was excellent, among the best of any expansion. All of the stories for the zones came together well and led into the dungeon and raid stories. The zones looked excellent and had perhaps my favorite music. Classes felt pretty darn good for the most part. PvP wasn't perfect but was fun. I enjoyed scenarios. I felt more immersed in MoP than in any other expansion.. overall (BFA has some great story immersion moments). The main issue I remember from MoP was the layered rep grinds initially at level cap. I still create a new panda now and then just to have fun going through the initial turtle island zone again. So much fun.
9:47 It was at this point. Shaman could no longer use ANY OTHER WEAPONS other than Staffs an Dual Wield.2Hander weapons where disabled an broken. It has been THAT LONG! Shaman only needed dual wield because they could only use 1hand and a Shield or use 2Handed weapons. So we needed Dual Wield. They Disabled 2Hand weapons an made it only work on Dual wield.
Man MOP class design and raids where the fucking best. No shitty pruning and every class felt enjoyable and PVP was very balanced. If only they had been making content more actively.
Asmon should get a mythic argus 980 ilvl girlfriend healer
To be fair. I looooved cataclysms zones. That's about it. But yeah. BC, and Wrath were definitely WoW's prime. As for gameplay/story.
And when it still had the hardcore MMO feel. Not seen today.
IMO
*MOP is shown*
Asmongold: THIS WAS THE WORST! THE WORST!
*Isle of Thunder* is shown
Asmongold : *Moans with pleasure*
*Thunder King is shown*
Asmongold: This was good! *nerdgasm face*
One thing I never understood is why was Vanilla SO BIG. It was bigger than every other expansion combined almost. It felt like an actual world.
Its because Vanilla was a new entire game. The expansions are just expansions. Of course the base game is going to be bigger than the expansions, its always that way
I like how he complained so much about MoP but was praising both 5.2 and 5.4 and saying how awesome they were
"Did I see Classic Launcher????" - Asmond
You can tell how Ian tries his best to make WoD sound good xD
I consider Mop to be the last wow expansion. It was Warlords that introduced many new elements to the gameplay that I strongly do not care for. Every expansion has at least one huge positive change Legion's was Mythic+ keeping 5 man dungeons relevant and challenging , rewarding and allowing those who don't like to raid to continue to progress.
22:07 "Cataclysm set out to break the world" MISSION FUCKING ACCOMPLISHED!!!
I don't understand why Asmon hates Mop
It was the best expansion after Wotlk, alot of great content and it felt amazing.
not really
The nightelf turning into a cat and the bear druids in Warcraft made me play NE druid back then. Was very disappointed pretty much to be pushed into heal only :(
I hear ya. My dad picked warlock because of the badass undead showing the hellfire-like spell
My ranking of expansions:
WOTLK
MOP
BC
LEGION
CATACLYSM
WOD
BFA currently sit some where between legion and cataclysm until something changes.
Mop really wasn’t that bad. The zones were pretty awesome
“Phasing in the death knight starting zone didn’t make sense” uhhh what? Thousands of people obviously making the most over powered character all at the same time. You had to have it or else people wouldn’t have completed quests.
He agreed and said it did make sense for that
21:30 is the most profound statement in the history of WoW
Sharding works, Blizzard new how badass I was, and figured pitting me against 40 horde is fair.
that mod ruined one hour of content by saying "its fine" when it clearly wasnt :D
i love this channel. laughing so fucking hard.....the chat just makes it so much better
I also liked Wod. Really. Khadgar was cool. I liked tables. Some music tracks were great like Khagdar's plan and Times change
13:53 i hope this found its way to one of the compilations with asmon
TBC didn't introduce 10 man raids...
Vanilla did with Lower Black Rock Spire and Upper Black Rock Spire.
Scholo and strat were 10man too at first
Dungeon finder wasn't a bad thing, it sure beat sitting around and waiting an hour to get a group if your guild wasn't doing that content.
How funny is that last bit around 51:50 ? The chat notices as Asmon does, that there's a classic loading screen in the background of the final video. I bet you there's 2 possibilities, either Blizzard outsourced this whole documentary production and they never actually caught that, or they deliberately left it in for the hardcore fans as an easter egg. I'd like to believe the latter but the former is more likely. Funny either way
everytime i hear any of the wotlk soundtracks.. goosebumps - I'm so fkin sad it's over it was the best time of my gaming history so far.
7:25 when the biggest nerd on the internet calls Ion a nerd. Made me lol
Revenge of the Nerds 😂
My hope is that the new Classic WoW slowly goes straight from Wraith of the lich king into mists of pandaria or just something completely new
mop, for me, was one of the best expansion :)
Azurite expedition are bugged btw and if you dont have a warrior,warlock,mage or a DH you cant do them cuz the gate is scuffed
lmao, it was funny to see him be so excited about WotLK, "Best Expansion!", but then slowly remember how many bad things WotLK added to the game.
Asmongold: *uses tiny bit of logic*
Twitch Chat: ??????????????????????????????????
good days playing WoTLK, i was 8 years old and relied on my brother to teach me the game, but boy was it fun.
From a PvP perspective cataclysm is probably the best expansion. It took all the features of wotlk and improved upon them, like rogues having to use smoke bomb / los to restealth after gouge instead of gouge just lasting long enough to restealth, hunters not having to macro weapon switch for deterrence or in general have a macro just to switch pets. Basically for everything they "simplified" they did so in such way that you could still outplay your opponent. The game isn't balanced for 1v1, and some classes does have innate advantages against others, but bar healers you could 1v1 any class as any class and this translated well over to arenas as well.
"A reminder of how important self expression is" yet they still dont have armor dyes -_-
MOP was good
Yeah every time he was like "NO. NO." I was just tihnking, Yes?
Lol no
Haha, the Kazicostas's face when talking about server offline when he was hyped to log in :D
i started in wrath but am looking forward to seeing classic servers which are so highly talked about (:
Dude, he fuckin called Classic WoW Pog
Exactly man, I completely agree with you. Nothing feels rewarding or special or meaningful anymore. That's what happens when you try to give everyone everything and make everything RNG and so on.
I still hate what they did to Loch Modan during Cata.
And TN
I fucking hate new Loch Modan
The flooding of Wetlands made me sad.
Matthew Batson the flooding of a thousand needles made me even sadder. That was the most nostalgic zone for me as a kid
Siege of orgrimmar raid lasted as long as Legion as a whole expansion has been out, LET THAT SINK IN!!!
Not afraid to admit, i'm a wrath baby, but technically, i started in the last month of TBC, but by god did i love every minute of it and tbh, wrath for me was the right time to start. I Played warcraft from 1-3 as a RTS, but fuck me man, did wrath blow my mind. still to this day it was the best for me, cause i followed the story, not the game. mannnnn, they be good times, 2008 rep fam :D, but hated cata, loved MoP, hated WoD, loved legion. Pure love/hate relationship man :D. Although, excited for BfA. For the Alliance :D:D:D:D:D:D fuck the horde, ya moons
"instead of standing in your capital city talking to people trying to find a group, you now stand in your capital city and a queue"
i get it, people dont like MOP because of cute fluffy pandas but world design, landscape and music is one of the best in wow
I dont get why asmon hates the lfg system so much, its helped me out tremendously. Way better than sitting in the main city spamming chat for 45mins too find out your healer has too go. Little biased because I got pound fist through the lfg system and its saved me a tremendous amount of time overall.
Asmon has twitch as his Lfg he just doesn't want us too have one lol.
Vibe Raider He is not talking about lfg he is talking about lfr and lfd. He has said lfg is fine.
Dungeon Finder was the best thing ever added to wow.
"What if Ion is just playing on Northdale?" LOL
Maybe if young Brad Pitt wasn't our king we might have actually fought the Horde again. Instead we saved it.
32:42 he called kael’thas illidan omegalul
Lich King the greatest and most notorious villain of the history of warcraft. (THAT GOT 1 SHOT BY SILVANAS BTW)
MoP's pvp was some of my favorite since TBC(and my love for TBC is mainly based off of nostalgia)
what i remember from TBC is PVP, resto druid+warlock. damn
Didn't bring up heirlooms in the show. R.I.P
MOP will forever be my childhood
i loved that ship travel system in wow! fucking cool stuff.
Mists of Pandaria brought Battle pets, Flexible Raids (!!!!), Mythic Raid Format, Brawler's Guild, Proving Grounds, New Talent System, among many other things. Not my favorite theme, but definitely one of the expansions that came out truly with the most changes. Felt really like a brand new expansion and most of the changes were really good ones. The expansion also had a very rich story, scenario, music, and great raids too. Sorry, but MoP was definitely one of the best expansions.
TELL THEM ONLY THAT THE LICH KING IS DEAD. AND THAT WORLD OF WARCRAFT DIED WITH HIM.
Aaron Garcia except MOP and legions were far superior to shitty WOTLK
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Technically the Lich king is alive :v
Unoriginal / 20
Fucking wrath baby
I really liked mist of pandaria and i feel like alot of people that dislike it only because there were pandas.
Thought this was going over WoW lore FeelsBadMan
you expect the lead designers of the game and its art direction to talk about the story?
TzHaar-JalYt I thought it was really interesting the hear the behind the scenes of the design process tbh
Ian Hazzikostas (sp) thinks that being able to have people play with anyone from any server is more important than people playing with the same people onthe same server over and over.. which is foolish. Vanilla/TBC were fantastic because there was notoriety on each server (then battlegroup), it was so much better. people had fame and infamy, and guilds were somethign to look up to on your own server.
Ion/Gurgthock was the guild leader of Elitist Jerks, Mal'ganis. FOR THE HORDE!
I feel like a a lot of the people that enjoyed MoP started playing after Wotlk was over.
Trust me noone whants to waste 30 mins to find a group for a dungeon then another 30 mins to get to the dungeon.Dungeon finder was good.
"It allowed you to quickly find players looking to do the same content." THE WORLD IS THE CONTENT
WHAT HAPPENED IN DARN CONFIRMED! "Horde are like we're gonna build a base" "AND THEN THE ALLIANCE BURN IT DOWN!"
People laughing on the stream about the vanilla experience with your friends and such, how unreasonable an expectation it was, but in vanilla and TBC I managed to pull 15 real life friends from my hometown, their girlfriends, etc, and only like 3 of us were technically gamers/nerds/whatever. It got most of them into gaming, and we managed to raid all the way up until mid-TBC when my PC broke and I chose to take a 12 year break from the game. Now I pretty much play the game with my brother, 2 friends and a bunch of PuG randomers. It will never be the same experience today, but fuck it, I'm in my 30's now. Most of my friends simply don't have the time to play an MMO anymore.
Wait, the Token costs $15. A month of gametime is $15. One person is essentially buying a month of gametime for another player. How does Blizzard make money off of that?
TIL people didn't have jobs and families back in 2004.
Well, it was more than the people that played that started playing in high school and college now had families, and they wanted to retain those players.
27 and still single RIP
@Sally Firstly, no. Secondly, even if that was true the strategy of appeasing the playerbase you have rather than doing what you do and appeal to the audience you appeal to is terrible. If it was true that classic WoW appealed to kids then they should've kept on appealing to kids and keep attracting new players, the way stuff like Mario and Zelda has kept on being popular. Mario didn't change to appeal to the now 40 year olds that bought the original, and it still sells like hot cakes.
Blizzard didn't have to shift their strategy, they chose to. Already during TBC there was a heavy focus from Blizzard on player retention, as they thought there was a massive potential audience they were missing out on. They were wrong. All the changes you mentioned were efforts to try to capture more of the casual audience on top of the playerbase they already had.
As for the analogy, it's how ALL business is run. Let's say the market audience for flashy cars is 35-50. They're not gonna start making cars for 45-60 in 10 years, because they understand that for every 55 year old no longer interested there's a 30 year old eager to look at their product. Same goes for subscription models like Netflix or Hustler magazine.
You do realize that second paragraph is exactly what I was talking about ? They shifted strategy during TBC because of the Naxx numbers, and the level 10 drop off. They thought they could keep growing by plugging the holes, but they didn't make any significant mark on the early game retention, and any progress they made with keeping casuals engaged in the end-game just opened the tap for hardcore players leaving wider. All of these changes happened long before there was any significant decline in the playerbase. Remember, not only were changes like daily quests, Sunwell badges and tiered raiding implemented during late TBC/early Wrath, but the decision to make these changes most likely had to happen six months to a year (or more) ahead of that due to development time.
It's so annoying that video audio is so low, now asmonbald is gonna shout to the neighbours....
Its shame that these dudes didnt mention how they implemented paid realm transfers back in wotlk which was a disaster for all realms with balanced h:a ratio.
I liked it but I think the last documentary Blizzard did about the community was better and had a different feel to it.
He doesn't know yet.... so sad...
for the love of god can you plz comb your 2 mustaches into A SINGLE MUSTACHE
Burning Crusade was the pinnacle
21:29 asmondgold hits the golden nail on its stupid golden head.
If LFG is such a huge problem for you, dont use it.
He just stares with a dumb face and says "okay" over and over.
at 33 minutes they lied, garrosh hellscream comes from warcraft III too.
No he doesn't, he was created in Tbc.. He was never in Warcraft III.
I started playing at end of vanilla and was a total scrub, then BC hit and I finally understood the game and hit 70 on my hunter. God damn was it good. Wrath was where I stopped. I still liked it but it was changing too much.
asmongold is literally the best guy to represent the whole community playing world of Warcraft hahahaha
instead of hating on the lfg q system, hate how gimped the normal and heroic dungeons have become. Make the normal dungeon and raid more challenging and less of just a stepping stone to a higher tier dungeon. Because the difficulty has been increased in normal, guildies or lfg pugs would have to talk a bit more to succeed.
MoP was great.
Garrison's were a cool idea as far as illustrating how strong your characters had become, but they fell so flat.
CRZ and evolving worlds are cool if you're playing by yourself but miserable for trying to make it feel like you are playing with other people. So many times I couldn't play with my friends because we were in different instances of a zone.