I have 4000+ hours in DOTA and around 2000 in TF2. Approaching 1500 in DBD. DBD is the only time where I've had multiple people post toxic insults and death threats for _months_ after I won against them a single time. DOTA, sure, there's a steep learning curve, people may make the odd off comment about how you performed. Just normal frustration for the most part. But DBD players make it personal. I had someone try to lecture me on how I was morally a bad person in real life because I tunneled in a video game. That's not an exaggeration, that was his own words. It's crazy.
The toxicity on DBD is fine compared to other REAL competitive games but the negativity is on next level. Combine that with the most self-entitled attitude, that's how it can get personal.
Before even watching just reading the title: I play League, its much worse. The ways people told me to off myself are truly... creative Edit: oh yeah you mentioned it lmao
I hold a special place in my heart for the DBD Community. I have made so many friends in this community and compared to the other communities where I really couldn't make any friends, (OW2, Destiny 2, Etc.) There are people here who welcome me and I love them for that. Unfortunately we have a lot of bad apples. A LOT of them. And holy cow they are loud. I truly believe tho, that a lot of it is because of Content Creators Doom and Gloom. It's why I recommend you, Bran, and only a small handful to my friends who are new because I feel like a lot of Content Creators don't realize the impact of their influence especially if it is Clearly Misinformation. I have had a lot of people in my chat tell me something wrong (for example today, Billy is better than Nurse... like brother you can't go through walls. Nurse can play on Lerys. Be quiet) and ask them where they got that information. 9 out of 10 times it's from a creator. I definitely can say with my chest held high, DBD is my favorite community I have been a part of. I have had a lot of Bad apples and some make a few wild accusations but I have made probably some life-long friends which I cannot say for any other community Love ya Kaiser! 🤗
The most boy multi paragraph tangent I’ve ever gone off on about DbD was about how the animations are designed behind the scenes. And I still apologized to Bran for having multiple paragraphs in his chat.
I ranges from player to player, at least in my experience of playing DBD. I've had people talk smack because I was "bad killer" or "bad survivor." As well as having a group of survivors claim I was "hook camping" as the Wraith. But I've had many more people joking with me, many a "Gg" and even some people being thankful, because I didn't basement camp as Leatherface and the like. In fact, last game I played I got some advice for a build to use on The Pig, courtesy of a pig main and it's working like a charm.
Gosh that bit about Riot hit very close to home. I remember in my first ever game of Valorant, my friend was teaching myself and a mutual friend how to play. Some jackass got up in arms how we (my friend and I) were the "worst players" they've ever seen and that we should "uninstall and never play again, never mind that we were new to shooters, especially comp shooters and didn't have a clue as to what we were doing. To his credit, my friend who was teaching us spoke up in our defense saying we were new and he was teaching us. But the hArDcOrE gAmEr didn't listen and was all "learn on your own time, this is a match." like bruh...what else are we supposed to do? And don't even get me started on League of Legends, you can't even bring up problematic issues with OP items, build and champions without people being all "what rank are you?" or "Are you in silver?' like somehow being in a "lower rank" negates the problems/issue someone is trying to talk about, like just because Master Yi isn''t an elo-stomer in Gold and above, doesn't mean he's not a problem in lower ranks. Just too much emphasis on rank for no reason, but what do I know I'm just a "low elo scrub". -_- On topic to the video, yeah, there are far worst communities out there in the online gaming world. DbD can be pretty toxic with entitlement, but its by no means the worst I've come across.
7 years and well over 2k hours. I've never been spam invited or FRd in DBD. I've never left a game because I was being harassed in VC. I've never been kicked for poor performance or because someone didn't like my voice. I've never had my teammates make multiple death threats during a match. Ahh. The lack of voice comms is such a blessing. I know certain types of people take a lot of shit from the game and that's not cool. But for me personally, the community (in-game) is a big part of why I'm still playing. Just wish props or match ratings did something!
Can confirm, I can't think of any other game where you get shit on for wanting to play the game normally instead of being "tame" and playing around the map for half an hour.
The dbd community in my personal experience takes the crown of most toxic community out of all the games I've played Since people throw this around a ton, even league of legends has had less toxic people in my experience. In LOL the worst I got was arguments in all chat, that was it. In smite I got told kys in one match, that's it. Fortnite, apex, cod? Got teabagged a couple of times and a guy yelled at me in French Dbd..? Last year I went for over 4-5 months of continued harassment after I started playing again, the reason was simply winning or losing the match. When I went out into the community spaces to talk about this issue I was only met with "get a thick skin' and "go play league if you want toxic' or 'just private your profile" I did eventually private my profile and people bypassed it to harass me further, I've also been yelled at and accused by streamers of cheating as well as being targeted in a server for enjoying skull merchant after her rework Before last year it was just as bad except I didn't have a community space I can talk with but there were still people sending messages and trying to friend or make me join their post game parties if they happened to be on console too And before someone says "it's cause you are on console" the game has a crossplay feature where most of the playerbase is on the PC platform. On one bad occasion some player had tracked down my profile not just on psn but on steam and even youtube :/ The amount of bad experiences I've had with tbe community is just so overwhelming that I cannot consider it a positive community outside of a few spaces and ngl I don't see any "big" creators even try to discourage that behaviour because "it's just a game" It was not a game for me anymore when I recieved the fourth kys in a week before I privated and locked down my profile completely.
I have heard the same complaints and arguments since I started playing this game in 2016. There's a reason I just don't care to interact with the "US vs Them" people. The community has definitely gotten worse since SBMM was added, but it's always been full of whiners.
I Wouldn't Say DBD Has The Most Toxic Community. However I Would Say It's The Most Volatile Community Out There. You Could Say Literally Anything About This Game (Even If That Thing Is Common Knowledge) And You Would Have People Swarming You About How You're Wrong And Stupid And Blah Blah Blah. And That Volatility Extends Into Gameplay Too. Too Often You Will See People Berate The Other Side Over The Way They Play. It Could Be The Most Mundane And Average Game Imaginable And You Would Still Have People Complaining About It. No Other Gaming Community I've Been In Has Been Nearly As Volatile As The DBD Community.
While I can't speak for the other games you've mentioned as I just have no desire to play games with built-in VC and never got into FPS games in the first place, I think the DBD part in the video is spot on. I do want to preface that there are a lot of great people in the community and that the positive interactions with the game are why I haven't quit even though it has crossed my mind numerous times this year. The problem is, there is a subset of the community that takes things way too seriously whether it is having this "as a victim of X playstyle, woe is me" mentality, having a conniption any time a good play or even a meme-y play is made by a side they don't play, are simply incapable of taking viewpoints other than their own into consideration, exaggerate the absolute fuck out of their experience with how often they claim they get tunneled (and probably have extremely loose definitions of tunneling let's be fucking real), constantly say shit like "yeah that wasn't a hit" or other BS excuses in the game as if they're this perfect bean that can do no wrong and never makes mistakes, and, worst of all, the mass amount of sore winners in this game that flame the other side even when things go their way. The latter subset is why I've debated either taking an extended break (as in longer than a week and change) or quit altogether.
Coming from playing league of legends for 14 years and then comparing the toxicity to DBD, it isn't comparable. I only have 4 people attacking me instead of 9, that's just good math in my favor.
I can definetely relate to the overwatch 2 community not being the best sometimes. So far it's the only game I remember playing in the last year where I straight up had teammates stop playing because they saw a pride banner. A lot of other games have fairly majorly toxic communities but this game seems like it can be harder to deal with the toxicity that is there for some reason, probably because I can't really switch it out for a similar game if I get annoyed at it cause it's kinda on its own in terms of gameplay.
The whole lucky debate was so hilarious. Acting like they have never shittalked or mumbled while playing before and then there is such a drama because of the wort lucky?! The Community surely always finds a way to surprise you. Loved the Dbd Distortion video btw! always a fan of some juicy The Slap memes
Give it time, you will. I'm not saying that overall the community sucks, but there are definitely individuals like that. You'll encounter some eventually
this is a good follow up video to your last. i commented there that part of the reason it feels like "doomsday" every time someone posts a video of them leaving dbd is because thats how the world is nowadays. similar to that, toxicity is not unique to dbd and i agree with you that the dbd community isnt anywhere near the most toxic. but it is damn sure up there as one of the most whiny and insufferable.
I love how inclusive the DBD community is and everything, and I love that it’s been a safe place for LGBTQ people, as well as straight people too. But HOLY SHIT being in the Facebook communities for this game is something else. I joined these to have fun conversations/debates about the game, not these god damn fan edits or mods of all the survivors/killers basically naked. It’s become insufferable & weird at this point.
to me, there's no such thing as a perfect community. no matter where ya go, theirs always the bad sides of communities. now with me & DBD, i've not had as much encounters of people saying or doing toxic type things, to telling me to off myself or whatever. but i've seen enough videos on those kinda things. and yeah, it's pretty fucked up. but it's one of those moments where you just gotta take the good & leave the bad. same thing i would say for the Friday Night Funkin' community & so on
Really it's just online gaming in general. Give someone a fake name and a screen to hide behind and you'll see the worst of the worst they can give you. People are evil in so many ways, and the "immunity" they think they have by hiding behind a screen combined with a minor inconvenience such as a game not going their way can let all that evil out. It's unfortunate. Highly unfortunate. DbD is a game that grants this feeling of immunity in countless ways, from the simple few seconds of dropping a pallet (even without a stun) to standing in the exit gates, it grants them this immortal feeling that enables them to be toxic. And what can you do about that? No matter what you change or say, it'll always be a thing. It's just sad that getting my friends to play the game requires me to also add in "you're gonna get toxic this and bs that, just ignore it" after like every tip I give them. It's sad that playing the game myself requires dealing with these people and having no way to avoid their bs but just ignore it and move on. But that's just online gaming. As long as we have screens and fake names to hide behind, people will be people. Our hate will lash out. Our anger will flare. And the bitter conclusion to that is, oh well. We move on, we ignore, we take it and we brush it off. That's the best we can do. And sometimes we can only do that for so long. And then what?
Reminds me of a game I had years ago where I was plague and I had a challenge but 2 people dc'ed so the other 2 except that I would just farm with them or let them go which I didn't and I kid you not on of them was messaging me about the game for a whole hour after it had ended. I wasn't even playing dbd anyone I was doing the moon easter egg on black ops 3
I've played Dota, L4d, tf, ow, battlefield, dabled into R6 & payday. Tekken, titanfall/apex series & evolve. 😂 The amount of hateful or toxic stuff combined I received in those other games combined doesn't even come close to what I've gotten in dbd even if I added a 2x multiplier lol. The thing about people being toxic on those other games I play is that the toxicity is limited in game, you mute them they don't bother you outside of the game. In DbD they will take their toxic behavior outside of the game and harass you in you comments, dm or find your social media and your friends list (all of which happened to me multiple times) and make it very personal. That's the difference I noticed with dbd's toxicity. People say stupid shit in end game but they're part of the course with how tribal people get on the side they're playing. But what's terrible is that they take their toxicity outside of the game.
Although this could also be a regional thing. Since in Asia we don't normally communicate with each other so in other games it might not be too bad. I think what makes dbd players so bad is that community is very young demographic despite how old the game is. So they don't have the perspective in life to see pass that it's just a game and what people do, say or opinions on the game/characters are things that have no tangible affect to the real world. So any little inconvenience they experience within it feels like a personal attack to them which is why they go out of their way to be so awful to people.
im still quite new to dbd and never rlly got into it before bc i always heard the ppl were absolutely horrible but im just now getting into it nd so far i’ve mostly (like 99.999%) met absolute sweethearts. obviously i’ve met some dickheads but nothing like cod or gta
Call Of Duty? I'll play World at War all the way up to Black ops 3 Zombies sometimes Black ops 4 and Cold War Zombies I play those for more relaxing game time I haven't played Multi-player since Black's ops 2 day's (witch my main is Tank Dempsey),Overwatch I play unranked D.va is main on that game, Dead by Daylight? Survivor goes to Rebecca Chambers and Killer goes to Michael Myers or Spirit I agree what you said on this video man these people need to stop being so toxic and actually have fun
It's the worst community I have ever been in and the only reason I still stay in it is that I play on PS5 and for some reason people don't message me. The thing that kills me about it is that every single person thinks there are so fucking *smart*. I read a a thread years ago from this guy who was an "engineer" who wrote a fucking manifesto explaining how it would be IMPOSSIBLE to move the server off of killer and onto a central location. Fucking guy had 100000000 words, every fucking one of them wrong. As soon as someone making a video says "the point", or the 'fun part' of DBD is chasing and looping, and states it as a fact rather than an opinion, I never watch them again. I forgot Scott Jund existed. Ugh, I am making myself mad now. Anyway, good vid but I personally don't think that if I got beat up by Floyd Mayweather I would feel better if someone told me Mike Tyson hits harder.
Yeah, the community is why I perma-quit; life is very short and there’s no time for the irreversible pseudostupidity the community constantly perpetuates. The amount of negativity the community has absorbed or created on its own is beyond repair; years from now, if when DBD loses support, it’ll all be an array of hindsight and memories.
3 games this morning 3 tunnellers and sluggers in a row these killers are getting more pathetic day by day. Its an embaressment to us real killer mains that have actual skill.
I wouldn’t say it’s the worst. It’s definitely the most entitled though. I have never seen a community this divided over every single damn thing. They’re never happy, everything is an excuse to argue or beg for shit. For fuck’s sake I saw people asking for nerfs or begging for FNAF under a post about Unknown’s VA dying.
Couldn’t agree more. I’ve definitely been in objectively worse communities when it comes to toxicity, so it’s weird to say DBD is the wost when it comes to that. It is definitely the worst community when it comes to entitlement and whining, however.
I think you're pretty on point. Call of Duty is insufferable. It's like the most juvenile group of gamers in the world. L League of Legends is toxic AF. People are just total dickheads in that game. I haven't played the others you mentioned though to speak of, but DBD is definitely it's own special slice of hell. Though IMHO, not as bad as the other two I mentioned.
Fairly long comment so here's a TL;DR. DBD is the worst because the aim for people is to personally upset the opposing player. The point isn't to win the game its to make the other person lose then rub that loss in best as possible. When failing that throwing a barrage of abuse/slurs/threats so you can still make them feel bad, publicly shame and dehumanize for using certain stuff in the game to get and worse, justify mob harassment. I love the game but the community is just the worst for ego/toxicity/malicious attacks I'm gonna have to disagree with you on DBD not being the worst. I believe it is the worst I've ever been in. I grow up with MW2 on the 360, I know that gets used a lot and not downplaying what people say but the slurs said end there, people say disgusting stuff to one another and the way I view it if 2 people want to go off on each other so be it I could always mute them. I fully accept that it's more likely that I'm just numb to hearing random slurs thrown at me because I killed someone and that does NOT take away how someone else may feel about them, im just talking from personal experiences and opinions. I played league since 2014 (although stopped playing it frequently) and had my fair share of "kys" or not great stuff said but to me that's a is what it is. I won't touch valorant because it's not my kind of thing however I have played csgo/cs2 also since 2014 and that was the same as CoD just instead of kids shouting stuff its adults but my opinion still stands of if people wanna go off on each other let them, if someone wants out they can mute. I played apex in a 3 man for a couple months before stopping for good because we got bored pretty quick and up until this video I didn't even know bloodhound was non binary, never personally ran into any toxicity but then again was never part of the community so I can't comment on apex. Now onto DBD. The DBD community is unhinged, egotistical as hell, extremely toxic, entitled, feed off drama and malicious. The "kys's" and slurs are just the scratching the surface, you find that in every game that has communications because people are tragic and its easy to make throwaway comments to an extreme degree behind a screen. Where DBD differs is the maliciousness. Lets start with the US vs THEM mentality, its so engrained into people that its actually the people controlling the enemy who your against and not just a nea or trapper. People play to upset the opponent, making the other team lose is more important than your win. That hit on hook or tbag at the exit gate is more important than just enjoying the win. Examples are boilover sabo squads or bully squads and on the flip side killers who aim to slug and bleed out everyone. Should people not achieve making the other side upset in game for one reason or another that's when the abuse in end game chat starts, calling for 1v1's, threats, slurs, insults etc. I've also just come to the conclusion on why people may perk shame, its just another way to make the other person feel bad because thats the true objective. Another thing would be lying to discredit someone/a teams victory by dropping some stupid shit like "I/we weren't even trying" meanwhile they were sweating and got outplayed but still have to try to get that dig in to make the other person/people feel crappy. When was the last time you got insulted by 4 people then publicly shamed for using a suppressor in Call of Duty? Wins and early (pre 1000 hours) games of DBD blow up peoples ego's the size of planets to the point that the idea of them losing can not physically be their fault, its the other persons perks/filters/killer choice/quieter survivor skin etc. When people can't find a way to excuse themselves it must trigger some episode as if its challenging every belief they have ever held and it turns into aggression towards the other side. The other part is how sore of a winner people are, I mentioned above its not about winning its about making the other person lose so you can insult them, make fun or harass them because they must be so pathetic for losing to a lower tier killer or a no second chance perk build. The worst of the worst of this is when someone wins/loses against something they hate, that opens the fucking floodgates for some people, on top of all the standard harassment/bm/insults in end game chat you get profile comments, messages, friend requests to insult you further, have your shit on social media for others to laugh at or insult, this level is where it leaves the other games' problems, you know when I said you can just mute the person shouting the nword on CoD? Yea try dealing with public shaming and indirect calls to action so people can play the "I didn't send people". After seeing this sorta thing for the first time (happened to a friend although I have had a few hate comments) I hid my steam profile and have hidden name mode on 24/7 and with that on I've managed to lower the steam comments/messages down to people saying stuff like "you are so lucky your anonymous mode". I had someone threaten to dox me, leak my address and have people turn up to my house and rape my mother because I played skull merchant. As you mentioned in a previous video about doxing, that shit should NEVER fly. The other part of malicious behavior is the CONSISTENT harassment of those who may disagree, you've said yourself about the harassment you got from the distortion video or tier lists, I reckon you could be a year from now and have a take that someone may have agreed with but will still disagree with because of an opinion you had in the past, hell you may have even changed it but its still solidified their thoughts on you. Back to the public shaming, spending more than 5 mins on DBD twitter (a mistake in itself I know) you will see someone posting how they upset someone but it wasn't enough so now they have to show off how they upset someone so more people can laugh at them completely disregarding how it could be a 5 min fuck up from that person because they were dealing with other stuff, now thats out there they will be harassed about it forever, sure the gaps in between maybe large but it will NEVER go away. But for whatever reason its deemed fine in the DBD community because they were using x perk or x character, its almost to dehumanize people (we see it in political arguments from both sides) because if you dehumanize someone then whatever happens in justified, screw listening to them or hearing them out they did this or played like this. In closing I think DBD is the worst because people take it personally, the aim of the community is to make people feel bad, that's the goal for the dopamine hit and when it dwindles people have to up their negative behavior to make people feel even worse then those people will do the same and repeat the cycle of harassment/shaming/bullying, people will try to get to you personally not just throw slurs at your username.
There is another asym similar to DBD called Identity V. I think Identity V is way worse because I witnessed someone get ddos for having a Danganronpa collab skin. Identity V is owned by NetEase aka the same people who work in DBD mobile
Well considering the surprising amount of bigoted comments on dbd's newest youtube video celebrating their 8th anniversary, I'd say the community is definitely up there.
In all honesty no, dbd definitely isn’t the worst community, nor the most toxic, however. The dead by daylight community is the most entitled community I’ve ever encountered, in the case of entitlement dbds community is by far the worst Edit:(this is before I’ve seen the video)
I have 4000+ hours in DOTA and around 2000 in TF2. Approaching 1500 in DBD. DBD is the only time where I've had multiple people post toxic insults and death threats for _months_ after I won against them a single time. DOTA, sure, there's a steep learning curve, people may make the odd off comment about how you performed. Just normal frustration for the most part. But DBD players make it personal. I had someone try to lecture me on how I was morally a bad person in real life because I tunneled in a video game. That's not an exaggeration, that was his own words. It's crazy.
Team fortress 2 or titanfall 2?
@@pocketsycho8720 Team Fortress 2
The toxicity on DBD is fine compared to other REAL competitive games but the negativity is on next level. Combine that with the most self-entitled attitude, that's how it can get personal.
@@ryanlutes9833 doesn't that community have a literal nazi
Before even watching just reading the title: I play League, its much worse. The ways people told me to off myself are truly... creative
Edit: oh yeah you mentioned it lmao
I hold a special place in my heart for the DBD Community. I have made so many friends in this community and compared to the other communities where I really couldn't make any friends, (OW2, Destiny 2, Etc.) There are people here who welcome me and I love them for that.
Unfortunately we have a lot of bad apples. A LOT of them. And holy cow they are loud. I truly believe tho, that a lot of it is because of Content Creators Doom and Gloom.
It's why I recommend you, Bran, and only a small handful to my friends who are new because I feel like a lot of Content Creators don't realize the impact of their influence especially if it is Clearly Misinformation. I have had a lot of people in my chat tell me something wrong (for example today, Billy is better than Nurse... like brother you can't go through walls. Nurse can play on Lerys. Be quiet) and ask them where they got that information. 9 out of 10 times it's from a creator.
I definitely can say with my chest held high, DBD is my favorite community I have been a part of. I have had a lot of Bad apples and some make a few wild accusations but I have made probably some life-long friends which I cannot say for any other community
Love ya Kaiser! 🤗
Something about your hard opens I really appreciate. Just jumping into it and thanking supporters by name. It's nice
The most boy multi paragraph tangent I’ve ever gone off on about DbD was about how the animations are designed behind the scenes. And I still apologized to Bran for having multiple paragraphs in his chat.
It’s not the worst, but god damn is it a cesspit when it comes to people taking a win or loss.
Good to know I'm not the only one coming up with and using the term "fuckle up."
I ranges from player to player, at least in my experience of playing DBD. I've had people talk smack because I was "bad killer" or "bad survivor." As well as having a group of survivors claim I was "hook camping" as the Wraith. But I've had many more people joking with me, many a "Gg" and even some people being thankful, because I didn't basement camp as Leatherface and the like. In fact, last game I played I got some advice for a build to use on The Pig, courtesy of a pig main and it's working like a charm.
Gosh that bit about Riot hit very close to home. I remember in my first ever game of Valorant, my friend was teaching myself and a mutual friend how to play. Some jackass got up in arms how we (my friend and I) were the "worst players" they've ever seen and that we should "uninstall and never play again, never mind that we were new to shooters, especially comp shooters and didn't have a clue as to what we were doing. To his credit, my friend who was teaching us spoke up in our defense saying we were new and he was teaching us. But the hArDcOrE gAmEr didn't listen and was all "learn on your own time, this is a match." like bruh...what else are we supposed to do?
And don't even get me started on League of Legends, you can't even bring up problematic issues with OP items, build and champions without people being all "what rank are you?" or "Are you in silver?' like somehow being in a "lower rank" negates the problems/issue someone is trying to talk about, like just because Master Yi isn''t an elo-stomer in Gold and above, doesn't mean he's not a problem in lower ranks. Just too much emphasis on rank for no reason, but what do I know I'm just a "low elo scrub". -_-
On topic to the video, yeah, there are far worst communities out there in the online gaming world. DbD can be pretty toxic with entitlement, but its by no means the worst I've come across.
7 years and well over 2k hours. I've never been spam invited or FRd in DBD. I've never left a game because I was being harassed in VC. I've never been kicked for poor performance or because someone didn't like my voice. I've never had my teammates make multiple death threats during a match.
Ahh. The lack of voice comms is such a blessing. I know certain types of people take a lot of shit from the game and that's not cool. But for me personally, the community (in-game) is a big part of why I'm still playing. Just wish props or match ratings did something!
Can confirm, I can't think of any other game where you get shit on for wanting to play the game normally instead of being "tame" and playing around the map for half an hour.
The dbd community in my personal experience takes the crown of most toxic community out of all the games I've played
Since people throw this around a ton, even league of legends has had less toxic people in my experience.
In LOL the worst I got was arguments in all chat, that was it.
In smite I got told kys in one match, that's it.
Fortnite, apex, cod? Got teabagged a couple of times and a guy yelled at me in French
Dbd..? Last year I went for over 4-5 months of continued harassment after I started playing again, the reason was simply winning or losing the match.
When I went out into the community spaces to talk about this issue I was only met with "get a thick skin' and "go play league if you want toxic' or 'just private your profile"
I did eventually private my profile and people bypassed it to harass me further, I've also been yelled at and accused by streamers of cheating as well as being targeted in a server for enjoying skull merchant after her rework
Before last year it was just as bad except I didn't have a community space I can talk with but there were still people sending messages and trying to friend or make me join their post game parties if they happened to be on console too
And before someone says "it's cause you are on console" the game has a crossplay feature where most of the playerbase is on the PC platform.
On one bad occasion some player had tracked down my profile not just on psn but on steam and even youtube :/
The amount of bad experiences I've had with tbe community is just so overwhelming that I cannot consider it a positive community outside of a few spaces and ngl I don't see any "big" creators even try to discourage that behaviour because "it's just a game"
It was not a game for me anymore when I recieved the fourth kys in a week before I privated and locked down my profile completely.
"Most annoying" is the best way of putting it I think.
But, it has been one of the best for me.
I have heard the same complaints and arguments since I started playing this game in 2016. There's a reason I just don't care to interact with the "US vs Them" people. The community has definitely gotten worse since SBMM was added, but it's always been full of whiners.
I Wouldn't Say DBD Has The Most Toxic Community. However I Would Say It's The Most Volatile Community Out There. You Could Say Literally Anything About This Game (Even If That Thing Is Common Knowledge) And You Would Have People Swarming You About How You're Wrong And Stupid And Blah Blah Blah. And That Volatility Extends Into Gameplay Too. Too Often You Will See People Berate The Other Side Over The Way They Play. It Could Be The Most Mundane And Average Game Imaginable And You Would Still Have People Complaining About It. No Other Gaming Community I've Been In Has Been Nearly As Volatile As The DBD Community.
While I can't speak for the other games you've mentioned as I just have no desire to play games with built-in VC and never got into FPS games in the first place, I think the DBD part in the video is spot on.
I do want to preface that there are a lot of great people in the community and that the positive interactions with the game are why I haven't quit even though it has crossed my mind numerous times this year. The problem is, there is a subset of the community that takes things way too seriously whether it is having this "as a victim of X playstyle, woe is me" mentality, having a conniption any time a good play or even a meme-y play is made by a side they don't play, are simply incapable of taking viewpoints other than their own into consideration, exaggerate the absolute fuck out of their experience with how often they claim they get tunneled (and probably have extremely loose definitions of tunneling let's be fucking real), constantly say shit like "yeah that wasn't a hit" or other BS excuses in the game as if they're this perfect bean that can do no wrong and never makes mistakes, and, worst of all, the mass amount of sore winners in this game that flame the other side even when things go their way. The latter subset is why I've debated either taking an extended break (as in longer than a week and change) or quit altogether.
Coming from playing league of legends for 14 years and then comparing the toxicity to DBD, it isn't comparable. I only have 4 people attacking me instead of 9, that's just good math in my favor.
I can definetely relate to the overwatch 2 community not being the best sometimes. So far it's the only game I remember playing in the last year where I straight up had teammates stop playing because they saw a pride banner. A lot of other games have fairly majorly toxic communities but this game seems like it can be harder to deal with the toxicity that is there for some reason, probably because I can't really switch it out for a similar game if I get annoyed at it cause it's kinda on its own in terms of gameplay.
Someone asking "what rank of you?" is equal to a gang member asking "what set you claim?" DBD is bad but can be ignored.
The whole lucky debate was so hilarious. Acting like they have never shittalked or mumbled while playing before and then there is such a drama because of the wort lucky?! The Community surely always finds a way to surprise you.
Loved the Dbd Distortion video btw! always a fan of some juicy The Slap memes
I got told to Uninstall ow2. I laughed I and I told the guy to "hold this block" I wasn't even playing ranked. Never got told to delete dbd... weird.
Give it time, you will. I'm not saying that overall the community sucks, but there are definitely individuals like that. You'll encounter some eventually
this is a good follow up video to your last. i commented there that part of the reason it feels like "doomsday" every time someone posts a video of them leaving dbd is because thats how the world is nowadays. similar to that, toxicity is not unique to dbd and i agree with you that the dbd community isnt anywhere near the most toxic. but it is damn sure up there as one of the most whiny and insufferable.
I love how inclusive the DBD community is and everything, and I love that it’s been a safe place for LGBTQ people, as well as straight people too.
But HOLY SHIT being in the Facebook communities for this game is something else. I joined these to have fun conversations/debates about the game, not these god damn fan edits or mods of all the survivors/killers basically naked. It’s become insufferable & weird at this point.
The community it’s one of the strong reasons i quit this game after a few thousand hours..
to me, there's no such thing as a perfect community. no matter where ya go, theirs always the bad sides of communities. now with me & DBD, i've not had as much encounters of people saying or doing toxic type things, to telling me to off myself or whatever. but i've seen enough videos on those kinda things. and yeah, it's pretty fucked up. but it's one of those moments where you just gotta take the good & leave the bad. same thing i would say for the Friday Night Funkin' community & so on
_Every_ post about DBD's community, someone is in the comments talking about COD/MW2. Without fail
Really it's just online gaming in general. Give someone a fake name and a screen to hide behind and you'll see the worst of the worst they can give you. People are evil in so many ways, and the "immunity" they think they have by hiding behind a screen combined with a minor inconvenience such as a game not going their way can let all that evil out.
It's unfortunate. Highly unfortunate. DbD is a game that grants this feeling of immunity in countless ways, from the simple few seconds of dropping a pallet (even without a stun) to standing in the exit gates, it grants them this immortal feeling that enables them to be toxic. And what can you do about that? No matter what you change or say, it'll always be a thing. It's just sad that getting my friends to play the game requires me to also add in "you're gonna get toxic this and bs that, just ignore it" after like every tip I give them. It's sad that playing the game myself requires dealing with these people and having no way to avoid their bs but just ignore it and move on.
But that's just online gaming. As long as we have screens and fake names to hide behind, people will be people. Our hate will lash out. Our anger will flare. And the bitter conclusion to that is, oh well. We move on, we ignore, we take it and we brush it off. That's the best we can do. And sometimes we can only do that for so long. And then what?
Reminds me of a game I had years ago where I was plague and I had a challenge but 2 people dc'ed so the other 2 except that I would just farm with them or let them go which I didn't and I kid you not on of them was messaging me about the game for a whole hour after it had ended. I wasn't even playing dbd anyone I was doing the moon easter egg on black ops 3
I've played Dota, L4d, tf, ow, battlefield, dabled into R6 & payday. Tekken, titanfall/apex series & evolve. 😂 The amount of hateful or toxic stuff combined I received in those other games combined doesn't even come close to what I've gotten in dbd even if I added a 2x multiplier lol.
The thing about people being toxic on those other games I play is that the toxicity is limited in game, you mute them they don't bother you outside of the game. In DbD they will take their toxic behavior outside of the game and harass you in you comments, dm or find your social media and your friends list (all of which happened to me multiple times) and make it very personal. That's the difference I noticed with dbd's toxicity.
People say stupid shit in end game but they're part of the course with how tribal people get on the side they're playing. But what's terrible is that they take their toxicity outside of the game.
Although this could also be a regional thing. Since in Asia we don't normally communicate with each other so in other games it might not be too bad.
I think what makes dbd players so bad is that community is very young demographic despite how old the game is. So they don't have the perspective in life to see pass that it's just a game and what people do, say or opinions on the game/characters are things that have no tangible affect to the real world.
So any little inconvenience they experience within it feels like a personal attack to them which is why they go out of their way to be so awful to people.
im still quite new to dbd and never rlly got into it before bc i always heard the ppl were absolutely horrible but im just now getting into it nd so far i’ve mostly (like 99.999%) met absolute sweethearts. obviously i’ve met some dickheads but nothing like cod or gta
Call Of Duty? I'll play World at War all the way up to Black ops 3 Zombies sometimes Black ops 4 and Cold War Zombies I play those for more relaxing game time I haven't played Multi-player since Black's ops 2 day's (witch my main is Tank Dempsey),Overwatch I play unranked D.va is main on that game, Dead by Daylight? Survivor goes to Rebecca Chambers and Killer goes to Michael Myers or Spirit I agree what you said on this video man these people need to stop being so toxic and actually have fun
This is the ONLY game that people go out of their way to comment on my Steam profile. It’s sad.
Kaiser will there ever be a killer and map without a survivor
It's the worst community I have ever been in and the only reason I still stay in it is that I play on PS5 and for some reason people don't message me. The thing that kills me about it is that every single person thinks there are so fucking *smart*. I read a a thread years ago from this guy who was an "engineer" who wrote a fucking manifesto explaining how it would be IMPOSSIBLE to move the server off of killer and onto a central location. Fucking guy had 100000000 words, every fucking one of them wrong.
As soon as someone making a video says "the point", or the 'fun part' of DBD is chasing and looping, and states it as a fact rather than an opinion, I never watch them again. I forgot Scott Jund existed. Ugh, I am making myself mad now.
Anyway, good vid but I personally don't think that if I got beat up by Floyd Mayweather I would feel better if someone told me Mike Tyson hits harder.
Yeah, the community is why I perma-quit; life is very short and there’s no time for the irreversible pseudostupidity the community constantly perpetuates.
The amount of negativity the community has absorbed or created on its own is beyond repair; years from now, if when DBD loses support, it’ll all be an array of hindsight and memories.
3 games this morning 3 tunnellers and sluggers in a row these killers are getting more pathetic day by day. Its an embaressment to us real killer mains that have actual skill.
I wouldn’t say it’s the worst. It’s definitely the most entitled though. I have never seen a community this divided over every single damn thing. They’re never happy, everything is an excuse to argue or beg for shit. For fuck’s sake I saw people asking for nerfs or begging for FNAF under a post about Unknown’s VA dying.
Couldn’t agree more. I’ve definitely been in objectively worse communities when it comes to toxicity, so it’s weird to say DBD is the wost when it comes to that.
It is definitely the worst community when it comes to entitlement and whining, however.
I think a lot of gamers in general are just toxic
I agree with it being so annoying and entitled. Can't even thank the devs first before complaining (again)
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That's what those people are.
This game should be called Trolled by daylight…. This game is just bully simulator….
The DBD community is on some Salem witch trials shit when it comes to harassing people for using what the game allows them to use.
I think you're pretty on point. Call of Duty is insufferable. It's like the most juvenile group of gamers in the world. L League of Legends is toxic AF. People are just total dickheads in that game. I haven't played the others you mentioned though to speak of, but DBD is definitely it's own special slice of hell. Though IMHO, not as bad as the other two I mentioned.
Didn’t even need to watch the video on this one.
No, it isn’t and it’s not even close
Fairly long comment so here's a TL;DR.
DBD is the worst because the aim for people is to personally upset the opposing player. The point isn't to win the game its to make the other person lose then rub that loss in best as possible. When failing that throwing a barrage of abuse/slurs/threats so you can still make them feel bad, publicly shame and dehumanize for using certain stuff in the game to get and worse, justify mob harassment. I love the game but the community is just the worst for ego/toxicity/malicious attacks
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on DBD not being the worst. I believe it is the worst I've ever been in. I grow up with MW2 on the 360, I know that gets used a lot and not downplaying what people say but the slurs said end there, people say disgusting stuff to one another and the way I view it if 2 people want to go off on each other so be it I could always mute them. I fully accept that it's more likely that I'm just numb to hearing random slurs thrown at me because I killed someone and that does NOT take away how someone else may feel about them, im just talking from personal experiences and opinions. I played league since 2014 (although stopped playing it frequently) and had my fair share of "kys" or not great stuff said but to me that's a is what it is. I won't touch valorant because it's not my kind of thing however I have played csgo/cs2 also since 2014 and that was the same as CoD just instead of kids shouting stuff its adults but my opinion still stands of if people wanna go off on each other let them, if someone wants out they can mute. I played apex in a 3 man for a couple months before stopping for good because we got bored pretty quick and up until this video I didn't even know bloodhound was non binary, never personally ran into any toxicity but then again was never part of the community so I can't comment on apex. Now onto DBD.
The DBD community is unhinged, egotistical as hell, extremely toxic, entitled, feed off drama and malicious. The "kys's" and slurs are just the scratching the surface, you find that in every game that has communications because people are tragic and its easy to make throwaway comments to an extreme degree behind a screen. Where DBD differs is the maliciousness. Lets start with the US vs THEM mentality, its so engrained into people that its actually the people controlling the enemy who your against and not just a nea or trapper. People play to upset the opponent, making the other team lose is more important than your win. That hit on hook or tbag at the exit gate is more important than just enjoying the win. Examples are boilover sabo squads or bully squads and on the flip side killers who aim to slug and bleed out everyone. Should people not achieve making the other side upset in game for one reason or another that's when the abuse in end game chat starts, calling for 1v1's, threats, slurs, insults etc. I've also just come to the conclusion on why people may perk shame, its just another way to make the other person feel bad because thats the true objective. Another thing would be lying to discredit someone/a teams victory by dropping some stupid shit like "I/we weren't even trying" meanwhile they were sweating and got outplayed but still have to try to get that dig in to make the other person/people feel crappy. When was the last time you got insulted by 4 people then publicly shamed for using a suppressor in Call of Duty? Wins and early (pre 1000 hours) games of DBD blow up peoples ego's the size of planets to the point that the idea of them losing can not physically be their fault, its the other persons perks/filters/killer choice/quieter survivor skin etc. When people can't find a way to excuse themselves it must trigger some episode as if its challenging every belief they have ever held and it turns into aggression towards the other side. The other part is how sore of a winner people are, I mentioned above its not about winning its about making the other person lose so you can insult them, make fun or harass them because they must be so pathetic for losing to a lower tier killer or a no second chance perk build. The worst of the worst of this is when someone wins/loses against something they hate, that opens the fucking floodgates for some people, on top of all the standard harassment/bm/insults in end game chat you get profile comments, messages, friend requests to insult you further, have your shit on social media for others to laugh at or insult, this level is where it leaves the other games' problems, you know when I said you can just mute the person shouting the nword on CoD? Yea try dealing with public shaming and indirect calls to action so people can play the "I didn't send people". After seeing this sorta thing for the first time (happened to a friend although I have had a few hate comments) I hid my steam profile and have hidden name mode on 24/7 and with that on I've managed to lower the steam comments/messages down to people saying stuff like "you are so lucky your anonymous mode". I had someone threaten to dox me, leak my address and have people turn up to my house and rape my mother because I played skull merchant. As you mentioned in a previous video about doxing, that shit should NEVER fly. The other part of malicious behavior is the CONSISTENT harassment of those who may disagree, you've said yourself about the harassment you got from the distortion video or tier lists, I reckon you could be a year from now and have a take that someone may have agreed with but will still disagree with because of an opinion you had in the past, hell you may have even changed it but its still solidified their thoughts on you. Back to the public shaming, spending more than 5 mins on DBD twitter (a mistake in itself I know) you will see someone posting how they upset someone but it wasn't enough so now they have to show off how they upset someone so more people can laugh at them completely disregarding how it could be a 5 min fuck up from that person because they were dealing with other stuff, now thats out there they will be harassed about it forever, sure the gaps in between maybe large but it will NEVER go away. But for whatever reason its deemed fine in the DBD community because they were using x perk or x character, its almost to dehumanize people (we see it in political arguments from both sides) because if you dehumanize someone then whatever happens in justified, screw listening to them or hearing them out they did this or played like this. In closing I think DBD is the worst because people take it personally, the aim of the community is to make people feel bad, that's the goal for the dopamine hit and when it dwindles people have to up their negative behavior to make people feel even worse then those people will do the same and repeat the cycle of harassment/shaming/bullying, people will try to get to you personally not just throw slurs at your username.
I'll say that Overwatch and DBD are tied for the worst community I've ever been in. Genuinely terrible people who take their games way too seriously.
Oh Kaiser, what a guy!!! 😁
There is another asym similar to DBD called Identity V. I think Identity V is way worse because I witnessed someone get ddos for having a Danganronpa collab skin. Identity V is owned by NetEase aka the same people who work in DBD mobile
Well considering the surprising amount of bigoted comments on dbd's newest youtube video celebrating their 8th anniversary, I'd say the community is definitely up there.
If you even have to ask then you have never played ARK
In all honesty no, dbd definitely isn’t the worst community, nor the most toxic, however. The dead by daylight community is the most entitled community I’ve ever encountered, in the case of entitlement dbds community is by far the worst Edit:(this is before I’ve seen the video)
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Dead by daylight is definitely one of the most hateful communities, but homestuck and mha are the worst
You look 20 goddamn
the dbd community is the most entitled
Yes. YES IT IS.
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R6 siege is soooo much worse