😆The real reason TSMC "allow" to continue to develop in just manufacturing , is because it promise the empireU$ not to enter Chip design. 😅Forever stay as "labour camp " . Also 75% TSMC own by American.
@@happymelon7129 If it is a "labor camp" you are in a "slave camp" because you make a lot less than work in TSMC, and you lack basic knowledge, Taiwan is the second largest chip designers globally, Taiwan is the only country making advanced chip plus design chip. You are living in a backward slavery country for sure.
@@CaocaoXI I think the American enemy here, the Kim family, is doing extremly well here. Unless you are saying that the ordinary people of North Korea are America's enemy?
@@Yangking-z9dYou don't know what you're talking about considering the US and India had cold relations for years. The US favoured Pakistan while India was more under Soviet influence (technically, India was non-aligned but they received more help from the Soviets.) It's only relatively recently that US Indian relationships have improved and India is fucking that up by trying to kill separatist there
The Japanese have management problems besides all the issues outlined here. It is always a competition between different nations but the US has never stopped Japan from developing what they want to do. They failed to adapt to emerging markets and technologies.
Thirty years ago, Toshiba exported precision instruments to SOVIET . The United States has imposed the following penalties on Toshiba Group 1: The Japanese Police Department was ordered to arrest Erhe Lin, President of Toshiba Machinery Foundry, and Hiroshima Tanamura, President of Machine Tool Business, and sentenced to 10 years'imprisonment. 2: Closing Toshiba's factory in the United States 3: A 100% tariff on Toshiba products sold to the United States 4: As an alternative punishment to the previous one, Toshiba's exports to the United States were banned for five years. 5: A huge fine of 1 trillion yen was imposed on Toshiba, equivalent to $16 billion today.
In order to calm the anger of the United States, Japan has imposed severe penalties on Toshiba Group: First, Japan's semiconductor industry will unconditionally share technology with American companies. Second, Toshiba spent 100 million yen to publish a full-page apology advertisement in all major newspapers in the United States. Thirdly, Japan Semiconductor Association invested 9 million US dollars to launch various relations lobbying in the US Congress, and this lobbying has become the most costly lobbying war in history. Fourthly, the chairman and general manager of Toshiba Group resigned. Fifthly, by an administrative order issued by the Ministry of Communications, Toshiba is prohibited from exporting any products to 14 countries for a period of one year.
The United States is the master of Japan, Japan can only apologize, which has led to Toshiba gradually losing its past glory. Toshiba was the hope of Japan's science and technology industry, and also the hope and pillar of Japan's manufacturing. After suffering a heavy blow from the United States, Toshiba went downhill thoroughly. The U.S. attacked Toshiba not because it sold equipment to the Soviet Union, but because it affected U.S. interests. The United States believes that the Japanese semiconductor industry represented by Toshiba Group seriously threatens the economic interests of the United States, while the Japanese high-end manufacturing plan threatens the United States and challenges the technological hegemony of the United States.
Looking back more than 30 years ago, the experience of Toshiba, Japan, and looking at what the United States is doing today, there are indeed many similarities. The United States does not allow its high-end manufacturing industry to be challenged at all, nor does it allow its technological hegemony to be challenged. The United States hopes that other countries will all be American workers and will never allow other countries to become shareholders of American interests.
Because of the usa sanctions, because they had a huge potential, that's what china doesn't want from depending on the us/taiwan chips by building their own chip.
China don't mind depending on us/taiwan chip because they can buy it. China was force to develop their own chip. Huge difference between wanting and being force to.
China's idea is to compete through long-term cooperation, but now it has to do it on its own. Of course, China does have the potential to do everything
Japan was leading the microchip race in the 1970s before US sanctioned Japan with unfair trade agreements to limit their High Tech products and forcing Japan to build factories in US while charging hefty costs, Toshiba the leader in microchip manufacturing was targeted by US and it's General manager was arrested by to force Tech transfer. Same thing also happened to France in Energy sector. US is now trying to Do the same to China But failed as Chinese government step in and protected local companies which both Japan and the French government cowarded.
This is totally false. The tech is patented and is American tech. You want to dominate. Build your own tech and standard then force the rest of the world to switch. Nope! You can't
But Japan has no options it has surrendered to the usa usa soldiers in significant numbers are present there they can directly/ indirectly intervene if needed so yea.@@cb250nighthawk3
to be honest......german cars dont have much quality except 'brand names'. They are stupidly over engineered and are super costly to maintain. Coincidentally...this was the exact problem with their tanks in ww2
@@NoOne-kx7zs German cars were dominant all over the world until a few years ago, what is k*lling them is the stupid decision to let go of Russian gas and lack of innovation due to an overreliance in cheap tricks like sanctions & tarifs rather than competing.
You fail to understand that photo reisin used for chip production is solely made in Japan. No one country can manufacture a full working chip on its own
How does it change the narrative, he did say that Japan is still a big player but no longer the juggernaut they once were which was precisely the goal of the US to beggin with
The Japanese car industry was also challenged by the Americans, but they thrived. The reason the Japanese did poorly in semiconductors is because they don’t collaborate well and believed they can do everything by themselves. The video does a good job analyzing the industry, most commenters focus on the Americans.
No we've never lost war actually. Our empire somewhat succeeded contract truce between allied powers. However, you took some points, in real, it seems that our empire is not sovereign nation since allied occupation.
I remember that the after the "Plaza Accord" President Reagan forced Prime minister Nakasone to accept few things to let Japan avoid the trade war against US. One of them was "the semiconductor agreement." As the result, Japan cannot export chips to US from Japan. Therefore, all semiconductor industry in Japan were shifted their technology to surrounding country like Taiwan, South Korea and China. Since their production technology is still highly relay on the supply from Japan. Like ultra high quality "Fluoropolyimide", "photoresist" and "hydrogen fluoride" are nobody else can mass produce, except Japanese inland factories. Therefore, Japanese semiconductor manufacturing industries still making tons of money from Taiwan, Korea and China.
@@ryannieh7023 Did not need to establish company. As Japanese company sold technology, production machine and materials to Taiwan and other Asians instead of using in Japan. Matter of the fact Japan has still power on semiconductor production behind the curtain. As if Japanese stops the production of their "Fluoropolyimide", "photoresist" and "hydrogen fluoride", the world wide production of high end chips will stop. No more 2n rule high end AI GPU in mass production. Because of nobody reaching the levels of Japanese companies.
@@ttakenaka2001No, Taiwan acquired semiconductor manufacturing technology from the U.S. in the 80s, and using Japanese equipment can’t really mean anything
😆The real reason TSMC "allow" to continue to develop in just manufacturing , is because it promise the empireU$ not to enter Chip design. 😅Forever stay as "labour camp " . Also 75% TSMC own by American.
This channel can do an episode of "Why Toshiba Semiconductor fall " . The truth of Japan's Semiconductor Industry Failed . 😅But most likely can't post it.
Thirty years ago, Toshiba exported precision instruments to Russia. The United States has imposed the following penalties on Toshiba Group 1: The Japanese Police Department was ordered to arrest Erhe Lin, President of Toshiba Machinery Foundry, and Hiroshima Tanamura, President of Machine Tool Business, and sentenced to 10 years'imprisonment. 2: Closing Toshiba's factory in the United States 3: A 100% tariff on Toshiba products sold to the United States 4: As an alternative punishment to the previous one, Toshiba's exports to the United States were banned for five years. 5: A huge fine of 1 trillion yen was imposed on Toshiba, equivalent to $16 billion today.
In order to calm the anger of the United States, Japan has imposed severe penalties on Toshiba Group: First, Japan's semiconductor industry will unconditionally share technology with American companies. Second, Toshiba spent 100 million yen to publish a full-page apology advertisement in all major newspapers in the United States. Thirdly, Japan Semiconductor Association invested 9 million US dollars to launch various relations lobbying in the US Congress, and this lobbying has become the most costly lobbying war in history. Fourthly, the chairman and general manager of Toshiba Group resigned. Fifthly, by an administrative order issued by the Ministry of Communications, Toshiba is prohibited from exporting any products to 14 countries for a period of one year.
The United States is the master of Japan, Japan can only apologize, which has led to Toshiba gradually losing its past glory. Toshiba was the hope of Japan's science and technology industry, and also the hope and pillar of Japan's manufacturing. After suffering a heavy blow from the United States, Toshiba went downhill thoroughly. The U.S. attacked Toshiba not because it sold equipment to the Soviet Union, but because it affected U.S. interests. The United States believes that the Japanese semiconductor industry represented by Toshiba Group seriously threatens the economic interests of the United States, while the Japanese high-end manufacturing plan threatens the United States and challenges the technological hegemony of the United States.
Looking back more than 30 years ago, the experience of Toshiba, Japan, and looking at what the United States is doing today, there are indeed many similarities. The United States does not allow its high-end manufacturing industry to be challenged at all, nor does it allow its technological hegemony to be challenged. The United States hopes that other countries will all be American workers and will never allow other countries to become shareholders of American interests.
@@happymelon7129 same tactics murika is doing now on China, except China is fighting back and this pisses off murika more... it's blasphemous to surpass the mighty one.
@@mrmateph729 The American Trap. In 2014, France lost part of the control of its nuclear power plants to the United States. Frédéric Pierucci, former senior executive of one of Alstom's power company subsidiaries, found himself at the heart of this state scandal. ..
Yup. Not many young westerners knew about the Japan-US accord deal in the 90s. The Japanese voluntarily agreed on restrictions to exports, mainly cars. Back then, everyone shared the sentiments that Japan made products are cheap knockoffs. After the accord deal, suddenly everyone love Japan.
@@luffyland4996 China is so pathetic. China acts like a spoiled child. An immature child will always say "I have no master" for he has so much insecurities. Mature adults are quiet which China is not. Always being butthurt these days.
Did you know that the machines used to make F1 racing engines are all made in Japan, and this is because the quality and precision is beyond perfect. Know this: any product no matter what it is, with the Made in Japan logo is always very high quality!
That maybe true. But most of the F1 constructors, are actually based in the UK. Then again, the Japanese are highly intelligent people. The Koreans are extremely clever. Even the us British, and Americans too, have our moments of genius. Let us just all be friends.
The introduction requires a correction: The Marshall plan was the US aid to Europe after WWII. The US aid to Japan (and the rest of Asia) was separate from the Marshall Plan.
Difference between Japan and china is the chinese government will not allow america to destroy it's companies, they will step and defend Chinese companies, something that Japanese government failed to do.
CMOS technology transfer to US also one of the reason Japan's set back. US developed further CMOS technology and was helpful for its processor development. This was eventually captured all the chip market in the world. Japan did not put much efforts on designing CPU for computer and also its software.
u.s. always uses the tactics of"separate and rule" on its allies. japan once tried to develop his domestic OS itron, but failed under u.s. pressure, some technicians died in an airplane crash.
Japan should rise up again. I think one of their problem is lack of young manpower and they're stuck with old people running everything. With todays standards, old ways doesn't always equals good. Most of the time we need to start from the ground up to make something new.
Younger generation today has different mentality, they ni longer want to works hard as older generation. This shot happened since 2014 untuk today. Thats why you can see japan innovation has been jacking since then.
The irony is that taking on Japan semiconductor didn't stop US from loosing its tech lead. Only Intel has kept the lead for some time, but now also lost it.
They know but cant do nothing about it ,only countries that ménage to chase US military out is Vietnam and Afghanistan .Germany has like 60 000 US soldeirs,almost more then German own standing army
As a young hobbyist, I attempted to get into Renesas MCUs and attended a "training course". Their tools were subpar to Freescale, more expensive and trainers had a bit of an uptight attitude. Then Arduino and ARM came, kicking everyone's ass.
@@svennomore729, in fact, in plenty of Italian-owned factories engineers automate their industrial processes in Arduino, using custom IDEs and industrial-grade hardware. I have seen it in Mexico, and it seems to work. By the way, I am not an Arduino fan; solid IDEs like Codewarrior or Code Composer are more in my alley.
It really depends on what kind of chips we are talking about. There some of them where japan still holds the keys. It is not always about US. In some of the areas Japanese companies didn’t put an effort into R&D in that field.
Japanese are industrious and respectful. I think Japan could reaccomplish this goal. Japan does not brag about its accomplishments until they actually occur.
US was not specifically pinpointed Japan, it has pinpointed any country that comes close to challenge his supremecy. This is human nature, and thats why human never stop fighting each others.
So basically just what we are seeing with Chinese car industry. It's free trade when it suits the US, but when you get too big, free trade no longer exists 😉
The G7 meet regularly to devide world's manufacturing sectors. In one of this meetings Japan made a deal which included the phasing out of its chip industry.
Japan and South Korea produce low-tech, mass-produced storage semiconductors, while Taiwan produces customized logic semiconductors, which are entirely different semiconductors from memory. After Japan withdrew from memory production, South Korea took over. This has nothing to do with Taiwan. Japan is a big country in storage semiconductors and does not produce logic semiconductors. After Intel lost memory chips to Japan, it switched to producing CPU logic semiconductors, making Intel the dominant player.
Most semiconductors manufactured in Asia rely on Japanese semiconductor equipment, technology, and materials. In fact, companies like TSMC and Samsung wouldn’t exist without Japan’s contributions.
I always use NEC desktop PC from Japan because it is cheap and High Quality and it last long even when i am using in a welding shop where electricity is connected to a welding machine running everyday. HP Desktop PC did not last long even though it is more faster and have a bigger power source connected to AVR and UPS. Only NEC has the especial Technology device for Current filter in the power Supply.
At 0:55, the video refers to aid that “…Japan received under the Marshall Plan”. The “Marshall Plan” was the name popularly given to the “EUROPEAN Recovery Program”. Japan received economic restructuring aid under the “Dodge Plan”, named for Joseph Dodge, a Detroit banker and economic policy consultant who drafted the plan.
I will say this once america do not value the free market there are even talks of banning chinese very competetive cars in the us like america is saying free market my ass.
While companies specializing in chip design and manufacturing were created in the U.S. and Taiwan, it was the semiconductor divisions of giant electronics companies that were making chips in Japan. Toshiba, in particular, found itself in the strange situation of doing both nuclear power plants and chip development, two completely different areas of the development cycle. As a result, the company was unable to adapt to the fast-changing chip market and declined.
TSMC is not a "fabless" company. Quite the opposite. TSMC is a supplier for "fabless" companies. "Fabless" means that a company altough designs chips, does not produce them because it has no "fab" (the name given to semiconductor manufacturing facilities)
Look, if other countries want to succeed in semiconductors, they need to fund R&D. Most of the chip companies overseas are beholden to the US gov because all the tech were pioneered and patented in the USA. Risk in R&D is encouraged in America.
😆The real reason TSMC "allow" to continue to develop in just manufacturing , is because it promise the empireU$ not to enter Chip design. 😅Forever stay as "labour camp " . Also 75% TSMC own by American.
The United States is the world's largest chip designer, and Taiwan is the second largest. You don't have enough knowledge to express your unfounded and dull opinions.
completely off topic but now that joke from Back to the future 3 is funnier about japanese microchips, also shows how the doc's determination to achieve time travel was to do it before some asian teen did
Its crazy how America is using the same accusations about China. So the issue isnt china or japan but its America being a cry baby cause it cant compete
Idk... China wants to invade Taiwan to control TSMC. I expect them to to invade within the next decade. And then AMD and Nvidia stock will drop like crazy
I really can't believe Japan avoided their economic collapse with a 260% debt to GDP ratio. Many complain in the US that a national debt heading towards 100% is really unsustainable. I saw many videos saying that Japan can avoid their economic collapse with their ridiculous debt. Well... If my debt to income ratio is around 300%, it would end my marriage to my wife. It is really unsustainable.
Friedship with USA will give you a lot of money but you will never get their technology. The Russians atleast give critical technologies to their allies like nucler reactor, rocket technology, jet engine and ship building tech. Better getting that from uncle sam
No evidence to back up the statement that you just made. The Russians are giving out trade secrets or technology to their partners???? I don't think so my friend. ALL COUNTRIES want to protect their trade secrets from others. There is a time and place where technology transfer can happen such as joint venture between companies to manufacture a product. Another one is reverse engineering where you study other people works and try to replicate the same for yourself.
If what you said is true, you could always just improve your country enough using said money to attract educated immigrants or your own ones back, ofc that's easier said than done but it's really not a problem as long as you have the money.
8:30 - Intel NEVER used TSMC in the 1990s this diagram with TSMC, Apple, and Intel is a MISTAKE. Apple didn't use TSMC in the 1990s, either. QUALCOMM did use them, and Nvidia, and ATI (pre-AMD) I think ...
Sony was NOT the first to produce a transistor radio. Not even the 30th. Regency offered the first in 1954, followed by EVERY major maker in 1955 and off-brands in 1956.
As a Indian we Love respect Japanese Technology ❤❤❤ Due to costly manufacturing cost & china is in compition. Japan stopped manufacturing electronics products. Japan made for last Long.....
One of the reasons Japan came to dominate DRAM production was because the US companies that did it in the 1970s wanted to focus on higher margin parts like CPUs. Intel was once a major DRAM producer but gave it up due to the low margins. It suited the purposes of companies like Intel to let existing and rising Asian producers have the market for those products. They didn't particularly care if a foreign power monopolized vital portions of a modern computer so long as the lion's share of the profits were going to Intel. The US government didn't see it that way.
The "broader economic struggles" were *also* mainly precipitated by the United States forcing Japan to sign the Plaza Accords in 1985. The Japanese economy was doing so well that the yen/dollar rate was highly unfavorable to the US, which forced a more favorable exchange rate. This messed up Japan's economy. The real estate bubble was always going to burst but the strengthening of the yen to the dollar under the Plaza Accords was the beginning of the end of Japanese economic world dominance.
Not really, they still dominate in discrete power devices that are used in EV and other high power applications and Sony CCD image sensors still found in all major mobile phone models
China will not be the second Japan that bent the knee to the USA. It will face hardships now and will become the leading economy in the world in terms of technology. Xi Jinping had a choice when Trump started the trade war. Either bent the knee and always be number 2 or face hardships now and bear the fruits later.
Nope China just switched selling its product to Europe and other parts of Asia where the USA has no influence too because unlike Japan, China spent a decade opening more markets not just in the USA.
Your economy does not want a new cold war with the US. You will learn. Are you ready to start from ground up. That is building a full functional chip without any American or western tech. No you won't and can't , then forcing the rest of the world to switch to your standard 😂. Please America don't have your time. If they do, you will learn
Do you think Japan's semiconductor industry will rise up again?
Unlikely
Not possible. Japan is just USA slave
You can do an episode of "Why Toshiba Semiconductor fall " .
The truth of Japan's Semiconductor Industry Failed .
😅But most likely you can't post it.
😆The real reason TSMC "allow" to continue to develop in just manufacturing , is because it promise the empireU$ not to enter Chip design.
😅Forever stay as "labour camp " .
Also 75% TSMC own by American.
@@happymelon7129 If it is a "labor camp" you are in a "slave camp" because you make a lot less than work in TSMC, and you lack basic knowledge, Taiwan is the second largest chip designers globally, Taiwan is the only country making advanced chip plus design chip. You are living in a backward slavery country for sure.
Why Japan's Semiconductor Industry Failed：US won’t allow Japan to dominate semiconductor industry.
@@AmairaNymativy-uy7vf USA namba one!
Japan is slave of USA
Yep. Always like that.
@AmairaNymativy-uy7vf YUP FVCK the yanks fvck xbox as well
Actually there is another reason: toxic work culture.
“To be Americas enemy is dangerous, to be Americas friend is fatal” - Henry Kissinger
Let’s compare the North and South Korea 😅
@@CaocaoXI I think the American enemy here, the Kim family, is doing extremly well here. Unless you are saying that the ordinary people of North Korea are America's enemy?
Let's compare china to India @@CaocaoXI
@@Yangking-z9dYou don't know what you're talking about considering the US and India had cold relations for years. The US favoured Pakistan while India was more under Soviet influence (technically, India was non-aligned but they received more help from the Soviets.) It's only relatively recently that US Indian relationships have improved and India is fucking that up by trying to kill separatist there
@@CaocaoXIapplies to both powers lol
Short Answer: USA
Long Answer: United States of America
😂
The Japanese have management problems besides all the issues outlined here. It is always a competition between different nations but the US has never stopped Japan from developing what they want to do. They failed to adapt to emerging markets and technologies.
😅😊😂
Genius 😂
absolutely right🤣
Thirty years ago, Toshiba exported precision instruments to SOVIET . The United States has imposed the following penalties on Toshiba Group
1: The Japanese Police Department was ordered to arrest Erhe Lin, President of Toshiba Machinery Foundry, and Hiroshima Tanamura, President of Machine Tool Business, and sentenced to 10 years'imprisonment.
2: Closing Toshiba's factory in the United States
3: A 100% tariff on Toshiba products sold to the United States
4: As an alternative punishment to the previous one, Toshiba's exports to the United States were banned for five years.
5: A huge fine of 1 trillion yen was imposed on Toshiba, equivalent to $16 billion today.
In order to calm the anger of the United States, Japan has imposed severe penalties on Toshiba Group:
First, Japan's semiconductor industry will unconditionally share technology with American companies.
Second, Toshiba spent 100 million yen to publish a full-page apology advertisement in all major newspapers in the United States.
Thirdly, Japan Semiconductor Association invested 9 million US dollars to launch various relations lobbying in the US Congress, and this lobbying has become the most costly lobbying war in history.
Fourthly, the chairman and general manager of Toshiba Group resigned.
Fifthly, by an administrative order issued by the Ministry of Communications, Toshiba is prohibited from exporting any products to 14 countries for a period of one year.
The United States is the master of Japan, Japan can only apologize, which has led to Toshiba gradually losing its past glory.
Toshiba was the hope of Japan's science and technology industry, and also the hope and pillar of Japan's manufacturing. After suffering a heavy blow from the United States, Toshiba went downhill thoroughly.
The U.S. attacked Toshiba not because it sold equipment to the Soviet Union, but because it affected U.S. interests. The United States believes that the Japanese semiconductor industry represented by Toshiba Group seriously threatens the economic interests of the United States, while the Japanese high-end manufacturing plan threatens the United States and challenges the technological hegemony of the United States.
Looking back more than 30 years ago, the experience of Toshiba, Japan, and looking at what the United States is doing today, there are indeed many similarities.
The United States does not allow its high-end manufacturing industry to be challenged at all, nor does it allow its technological hegemony to be challenged. The United States hopes that other countries will all be American workers and will never allow other countries to become shareholders of American interests.
US practically sets the world backwards
russia is a terrorist organization
i don't think toshiba would do such a stupid behaviour,,i do believe it's made up
You should do one of these videos, that sounds very interesting :)
Is it the same thing that the US tried to do with China and Huawei just recently?
Because of the usa sanctions, because they had a huge potential, that's what china doesn't want from depending on the us/taiwan chips by building their own chip.
China don't mind depending on us/taiwan chip because they can buy it. China was force to develop their own chip. Huge difference between wanting and being force to.
China's idea is to compete through long-term cooperation, but now it has to do it on its own. Of course, China does have the potential to do everything
No company leads forever.
US sanctions 😂? Please , today Japan is one of US best alies and comercial partner . Let go of the drugs and " chinese propaganda " .
@@carlosoliveira7727best ally or the best lapdog ever?😅
Answer:- "USA"
To be more direct, have been totally bullied by the USA
I didn’t have to watch the video to already know, was going to say the same thing
Don't blame your competitors why they are so smart. Blame yourself why you are not so.
8:44
Japan was leading the microchip race in the 1970s before US sanctioned Japan with unfair trade agreements to limit their High Tech products and forcing Japan to build factories in US while charging hefty costs, Toshiba the leader in microchip manufacturing was targeted by US and it's General manager was arrested by to force Tech transfer. Same thing also happened to France in Energy sector. US is now trying to Do the same to China But failed as Chinese government step in and protected local companies which both Japan and the French government cowarded.
This shows that both Japan government and France government are cowardice
It certainly doesn't pay to be a lapdog of America. 🎉
This is totally false. The tech is patented and is American tech. You want to dominate. Build your own tech and standard then force the rest of the world to switch. Nope! You can't
But Japan has no options it has surrendered to the usa usa soldiers in significant numbers are present there they can directly/ indirectly intervene if needed so yea.@@cb250nighthawk3
@@LL-rm8xt
Those Japs are despicable. 😬
I see, Uncle Sam treats friends and foes alike. No discrimination. 😂
That's true democracy 😂
Uncle Sam treats non-white friends and foes alike.
😂
The US will handicap and destabilize a country and then point at it and be like see thars what happens for not being capitalist enough.
Yeah a TRUE democracy indeed
Next episode : how America killed German automobile industry
That was Japan, at least in the case of luxury cars.
Now it is usa(tesla) / china (byd) in the case of electric cars. Also nokia ended with iOS/android phones.
@@とふこtesla doesn't sell that well tho. Byd does, they can make cheaper and reliable cars nowadays that once japan cars manufacturer always dominate.
to be honest......german cars dont have much quality except 'brand names'.
They are stupidly over engineered and are super costly to maintain.
Coincidentally...this was the exact problem with their tanks in ww2
@@NoOne-kx7zs German cars were dominant all over the world until a few years ago, what is k*lling them is the stupid decision to let go of Russian gas and lack of innovation due to an overreliance in cheap tricks like sanctions & tarifs rather than competing.
You fail to understand that photo reisin used for chip production is solely made in Japan. No one country can manufacture a full working chip on its own
How does it change the narrative, he did say that Japan is still a big player but no longer the juggernaut they once were which was precisely the goal of the US to beggin with
Interesting. Can you please elaborate a bit?
I've never heard photoresist called photo resin before.
I think what he means is lithography in semiconductors where a mask is needed in production. IDK if that is created by japan only though.
The Japanese car industry was also challenged by the Americans, but they thrived. The reason the Japanese did poorly in semiconductors is because they don’t collaborate well and believed they can do everything by themselves. The video does a good job analyzing the industry, most commenters focus on the Americans.
Because USA want Japan to fail. 😂
Nah they don't want them to fail but they most likely don't want them to success
usa alsó want to China fail
But china don't care
@juanjorge751 the main reason of their failing is because can't compete in making euv chip. Dutch firm ASML and Taiwan TSMC are ahead
and china want usa faild
@@juanjorge751 They want Japan to be strong enough to help contain China but not strong enough to stand on its own and rival the US.
Japan lost the war to America and is still under their rule.
Of course there were good things, but they were never allowed to surpass America.
They will always be under the US thumb as long as the USA military bases stay there to keep them in check
They need to remove that article in their constitution, which was imposed by the Americans, and ally with the Reds.
No we've never lost war actually.
Our empire somewhat succeeded contract truce between allied powers.
However, you took some points, in real, it seems that our empire is not sovereign nation since allied occupation.
@@ROUKWA_S
you lost the war along with germany and italy, the axis powers lost ww2 and youre just coping. that is why you have tons of american bases.
@@ROUKWA_S you signed unconditional surrender. You are still occupied today by US bases everywhere. You lost.
I remember that the after the "Plaza Accord" President Reagan forced Prime minister Nakasone to accept few things to let Japan avoid the trade war against US. One of them was "the semiconductor agreement." As the result, Japan cannot export chips to US from Japan. Therefore, all semiconductor industry in Japan were shifted their technology to surrounding country like Taiwan, South Korea and China. Since their production technology is still highly relay on the supply from Japan.
Like ultra high quality "Fluoropolyimide", "photoresist" and "hydrogen fluoride" are nobody else can mass produce, except Japanese inland factories. Therefore, Japanese semiconductor manufacturing industries still making tons of money from Taiwan, Korea and China.
No, that’s not true, and actually there haven’t been any Japanese semiconductor manufacturers producing chips in Taiwan.
@@ryannieh7023 Did not need to establish company. As Japanese company sold technology, production machine and materials to Taiwan and other Asians instead of using in Japan.
Matter of the fact Japan has still power on semiconductor production behind the curtain. As if Japanese stops the production of their "Fluoropolyimide", "photoresist" and "hydrogen fluoride", the world wide production of high end chips will stop. No more 2n rule high end AI GPU in mass production. Because of nobody reaching the levels of Japanese companies.
@@ttakenaka2001No, Taiwan acquired semiconductor manufacturing technology from the U.S. in the 80s, and using Japanese equipment can’t really mean anything
Samsung's technology is nothing to do with Jap's supply. The only benefit from Jap was its shirinking of market dominence in 90's
@@ttakenaka2001 Japanese companies hold a 60% share of the global silicon wafer market, and Japan leads in 14 of the 19 material types.
Asia's people very hardworking
Yes. But hard work isn't enough.
@@bradolfpittler2875 Yeah.. needs violent work from time to time..
Also very talented and smart @@bradolfpittler2875
😆The real reason TSMC "allow" to continue to develop in just manufacturing , is because it promise the empireU$ not to enter Chip design.
😅Forever stay as "labour camp " .
Also 75% TSMC own by American.
not all, some of them are very unequal and live in poverty.
Remember Toshiba in the 80s? The pirate Murika took it from them free of charge...
This channel can do an episode of "Why Toshiba Semiconductor fall " .
The truth of Japan's Semiconductor Industry Failed .
😅But most likely can't post it.
Thirty years ago, Toshiba exported precision instruments to Russia. The United States has imposed the following penalties on Toshiba Group
1: The Japanese Police Department was ordered to arrest Erhe Lin, President of Toshiba Machinery Foundry, and Hiroshima Tanamura, President of Machine Tool Business, and sentenced to 10 years'imprisonment.
2: Closing Toshiba's factory in the United States
3: A 100% tariff on Toshiba products sold to the United States
4: As an alternative punishment to the previous one, Toshiba's exports to the United States were banned for five years.
5: A huge fine of 1 trillion yen was imposed on Toshiba, equivalent to $16 billion today.
In order to calm the anger of the United States, Japan has imposed severe penalties on Toshiba Group:
First, Japan's semiconductor industry will unconditionally share technology with American companies.
Second, Toshiba spent 100 million yen to publish a full-page apology advertisement in all major newspapers in the United States.
Thirdly, Japan Semiconductor Association invested 9 million US dollars to launch various relations lobbying in the US Congress, and this lobbying has become the most costly lobbying war in history.
Fourthly, the chairman and general manager of Toshiba Group resigned.
Fifthly, by an administrative order issued by the Ministry of Communications, Toshiba is prohibited from exporting any products to 14 countries for a period of one year.
The United States is the master of Japan, Japan can only apologize, which has led to Toshiba gradually losing its past glory.
Toshiba was the hope of Japan's science and technology industry, and also the hope and pillar of Japan's manufacturing. After suffering a heavy blow from the United States, Toshiba went downhill thoroughly.
The U.S. attacked Toshiba not because it sold equipment to the Soviet Union, but because it affected U.S. interests. The United States believes that the Japanese semiconductor industry represented by Toshiba Group seriously threatens the economic interests of the United States, while the Japanese high-end manufacturing plan threatens the United States and challenges the technological hegemony of the United States.
Looking back more than 30 years ago, the experience of Toshiba, Japan, and looking at what the United States is doing today, there are indeed many similarities.
The United States does not allow its high-end manufacturing industry to be challenged at all, nor does it allow its technological hegemony to be challenged. The United States hopes that other countries will all be American workers and will never allow other countries to become shareholders of American interests.
@@happymelon7129 same tactics murika is doing now on China, except China is fighting back and this pisses off murika more... it's blasphemous to surpass the mighty one.
@@happymelon7129 I read what you posted fm a book, but I forgot the author.
@@mrmateph729
The American Trap.
In 2014, France lost part of the control of its nuclear power plants to the United States. Frédéric Pierucci, former senior executive of one of Alstom's power company subsidiaries, found himself at the heart of this state scandal. ..
Only two words needed
PLAZA ACCORDS
Bro when you have an entire fleet parked in your ocean territory, you better sign that piece of paper.
Yup. Not many young westerners knew about the Japan-US accord deal in the 90s. The Japanese voluntarily agreed on restrictions to exports, mainly cars. Back then, everyone shared the sentiments that Japan made products are cheap knockoffs. After the accord deal, suddenly everyone love Japan.
when the master sees his slave starting to try to threaten his position, sanctions immediately come to remind him who the master is
US is not the master of Japan wtf u on? An independent and sovereign country has no master 🤦
Japan doesn't give a shit what US thinks.
@@luffyland4996 Unfortunately, reality speaks otherwise.
@@suryatobing If US is a master of Japan, why do they have agreements? Cuz a master chooses what he desires
@@luffyland4996 China is so pathetic. China acts like a spoiled child. An immature child will always say "I have no master" for he has so much insecurities. Mature adults are quiet which China is not. Always being butthurt these days.
Did you know that the machines used to make F1 racing engines are all made in Japan, and this is because the quality and precision is beyond perfect. Know this: any product no matter what it is, with the Made in Japan logo is always very high quality!
但这没用了，即使是很好品质，日本的工资水平也被技术比日本差的韩国超过了
That maybe true. But most of the F1 constructors, are actually based in the UK. Then again, the Japanese are highly intelligent people. The Koreans are extremely clever. Even the us British, and Americans too, have our moments of genius. Let us just all be friends.
The introduction requires a correction:
The Marshall plan was the US aid to Europe after WWII.
The US aid to Japan (and the rest of Asia) was separate from the Marshall Plan.
America never learned and did the same thing with china
Difference between Japan and china is the chinese government will not allow america to destroy it's companies, they will step and defend Chinese companies, something that Japanese government failed to do.
Agree, but it's not "did", it's "has been doing " because America is still attacking China. China presents a much more complicated situation.
Now they are messing with the wrong beast
the problem is China isn't usa puppet XD
Good thing is that CN is not a lapdog for anyone. Bad news is US will start nuclear war to avoid losing its hegemony.
Thanks!
CMOS technology transfer to US also one of the reason Japan's set back. US developed further CMOS technology and was helpful for its processor development. This was eventually captured all the chip market in the world. Japan did not put much efforts on designing CPU for computer and also its software.
Also US is the only nation producing software tool to design the circuits.
u.s. always uses the tactics of"separate and rule" on its allies. japan once tried to develop his domestic OS itron, but failed under u.s. pressure, some technicians died in an airplane crash.
@@Great-East-Asia这可能是阴谋论，但美国对日本的压制是千真万确的，美国的做法恶心，但美国这样做是必要的
I remembered when I was a kid that Japan was like a god as an economic power. Now, Japan could not compete with South Korea.
那你就错了，日本有半导体很多关键材料和设备。
If Japan stop exporting semiconductor related technolgy and material, South Korea's industry will die.
I don't understand why Samsung, SK-hynics are good at D-ram
@@JosephLee2012 If Japan stops exporting semiconductor related technology, korean industry will be devastated.
japan is still way ahead of korea in tech....and korea is in a mich woese situation
Japan should rise up again. I think one of their problem is lack of young manpower and they're stuck with old people running everything. With todays standards, old ways doesn't always equals good. Most of the time we need to start from the ground up to make something new.
We need a new Nintendo again!
The Japanese don't get to call the shots so long as the US military remains on their land.
Younger generation today has different mentality, they ni longer want to works hard as older generation. This shot happened since 2014 untuk today. Thats why you can see japan innovation has been jacking since then.
@@yuangtan1622 Actually, they can. Not everything is US fault.
看看日本现在的丑歌手和丑演员，就知道日本无法再崛起了，日本以前的演员和歌手都很好看
The irony is that taking on Japan semiconductor didn't stop US from loosing its tech lead. Only Intel has kept the lead for some time, but now also lost it.
This question is too simple! Because of the suppression by the United States! But Japan has made achievements in the field of semiconductor equipment!
Japan are under occupation but they don’t recognise it.
Exactly. Japan is a defacto colony of you-S-eh.
They know but cant do nothing about it ,only countries that ménage to chase US military out is Vietnam and Afghanistan .Germany has like 60 000 US soldeirs,almost more then German own standing army
coward
South Korea, Taiwan and Germany too. Just pawns of US hegemony.
Yes they do. So do Germans.
As a young hobbyist, I attempted to get into Renesas MCUs and attended a "training course". Their tools were subpar to Freescale, more expensive and trainers had a bit of an uptight attitude. Then Arduino and ARM came, kicking everyone's ass.
Do you think Arduino boards would be used in production environments, like arm has ?
@@svennomore729, in fact, in plenty of Italian-owned factories engineers automate their industrial processes in Arduino, using custom IDEs and industrial-grade hardware. I have seen it in Mexico, and it seems to work. By the way, I am not an Arduino fan; solid IDEs like Codewarrior or Code Composer are more in my alley.
We (I work at Renesas) primarily make ARM MCUs now and we are designed into two Arduino boards. Yeah the old tools were... Complicated lol
It really depends on what kind of chips we are talking about. There some of them where japan still holds the keys. It is not always about US. In some of the areas Japanese companies didn’t put an effort into R&D in that field.
Japan still makes a lot of the equipment used to make microchips as well as having related techs like lens
Japanese are industrious and respectful. I think Japan could reaccomplish this goal. Japan does not brag about its accomplishments until they actually occur.
US was not specifically pinpointed Japan, it has pinpointed any country that comes close to challenge his supremecy. This is human nature, and thats why human never stop fighting each others.
do that kind of thing to your own ally doesn't seem like human nature, does it?
West culture , not East.
Hundreds years ago, China already trade with South East Asia.
But only trade, even China is powerful.
When European came, they colonies right away.
Excuse me but I call it animal nature. 🎉
well said
So basically just what we are seeing with Chinese car industry.
It's free trade when it suits the US, but when you get too big, free trade no longer exists 😉
What is freedom? What is freedom of speech?
The G7 meet regularly to devide world's manufacturing sectors.
In one of this meetings Japan made a deal which included the phasing out of its chip industry.
What’s happening now to China is similar to what what was happening to Japan at the time.
It's hard to make money if your neighbor is stealing all of your IP (and I don't mean Taiwan or Korea).
They still produce the best image sensors.
The Toshiba laptops from 2010 were so well designed. Saddens me that they are no more
Japan and South Korea produce low-tech, mass-produced storage semiconductors, while Taiwan produces customized logic semiconductors, which are entirely different semiconductors from memory.
After Japan withdrew from memory production, South Korea took over. This has nothing to do with Taiwan.
Japan is a big country in storage semiconductors and does not produce logic semiconductors.
After Intel lost memory chips to Japan, it switched to producing CPU logic semiconductors, making Intel the dominant player.
Memory are massive amount of cells which is a simple logic circuit. It is basically a commodity business.
Most semiconductors manufactured in Asia rely on Japanese semiconductor equipment, technology, and materials. In fact, companies like TSMC and Samsung wouldn’t exist without Japan’s contributions.
That's only partially true, ASML is the market leader for very high end production equipment. ASML is based in the US
America is an envious country...
I always use NEC desktop PC from Japan because it is cheap and High Quality and it last long even when i am using in a welding shop where electricity is connected to a welding machine running everyday. HP Desktop PC did not last long even though it is more faster and have a bigger power source connected to AVR and UPS. Only NEC has the especial Technology device for Current filter in the power Supply.
You are the typical American Japanese fan boy. Your edge case proved nothing. GTFOH
At 0:55, the video refers to aid that “…Japan received under the Marshall Plan”. The “Marshall Plan” was the name popularly given to the “EUROPEAN Recovery Program”. Japan received economic restructuring aid under the “Dodge Plan”, named for Joseph Dodge, a Detroit banker and economic policy consultant who drafted the plan.
To protect USA market decided to tariff speaking freedom market😅😅
I will say this once america do not value the free market there are even talks of banning chinese very competetive cars in the us like america is saying free market my ass.
While companies specializing in chip design and manufacturing were created in the U.S. and Taiwan, it was the semiconductor divisions of giant electronics companies that were making chips in Japan. Toshiba, in particular, found itself in the strange situation of doing both nuclear power plants and chip development, two completely different areas of the development cycle. As a result, the company was unable to adapt to the fast-changing chip market and declined.
それには間違いがあります
買収した原子力発電所の会社が莫大な借金を抱えていて東芝本体も傾いて家電事業を中国に売り払ったことが事実です
TSMC is not a "fabless" company. Quite the opposite. TSMC is a supplier for "fabless" companies. "Fabless" means that a company altough designs chips, does not produce them because it has no "fab" (the name given to semiconductor manufacturing facilities)
Look, if other countries want to succeed in semiconductors, they need to fund R&D. Most of the chip companies overseas are beholden to the US gov because all the tech were pioneered and patented in the USA. Risk in R&D is encouraged in America.
The free market never existed, just a ruse by the Anglo empire to seem more equitable
The answer is a very simple three letter word: USA
last I checked sony has over 50% of the market share when it comes to image sensors
Rapidus would've been nice to note by the end. I'm continuing to watch their progress
Many Japanese datasheets were in Japanese only, which makes foreign adaptation of parts difficult.
If America is due this to the allies imagine what they do to the enemies
Japan still has a strong semiconductor manufacturing industry. Interesting that at 7:45 Intel was brought up but the microprocessor shown is from TI.
Answer: sanctioned by the US
😆The real reason TSMC "allow" to continue to develop in just manufacturing , is because it promise the empireU$ not to enter Chip design.
😅Forever stay as "labour camp " .
Also 75% TSMC own by American.
The United States is the world's largest chip designer, and Taiwan is the second largest.
You don't have enough knowledge to express your unfounded and dull opinions.
@@genuinennessbefitting4734 😅 do you ever work in U$ , majority chip designer are Chinese and Indian..
@@happymelon7129 Chinese? The United States is the strongest in chip design, and Taiwan is second. They are not Chinese.
Working in the US not their own countries @@happymelon7129
Just like the current China, Japan has been suppressed by the US especially Toshiba lead semiconductor technology
completely off topic but now that joke from Back to the future 3 is funnier about japanese microchips, also shows how the doc's determination to achieve time travel was to do it before some asian teen did
the answer is pretty simple. The US foiled japan's success. the US put too many limitation over japan.
Because the USA ordered R&D shut down, and to dissolve MITI.
Because America don’t want to be embarrassed on every aspect of development
Just like in the HUAWEI case...they cancel it because they have no real competitions for it
Its crazy how America is using the same accusations about China. So the issue isnt china or japan but its America being a cry baby cause it cant compete
但美国能这样做，是因为他科技创新和经济第一，和第一市场的地位，所以美国能为所欲为也是靠自己的实力，中国要是有美国的科技创新能力，同样会压制除美国的所有国家
Idk... China wants to invade Taiwan to control TSMC. I expect them to to invade within the next decade. And then AMD and Nvidia stock will drop like crazy
I really can't believe Japan avoided their economic collapse with a 260% debt to GDP ratio. Many complain in the US that a national debt heading towards 100% is really unsustainable. I saw many videos saying that Japan can avoid their economic collapse with their ridiculous debt. Well... If my debt to income ratio is around 300%, it would end my marriage to my wife. It is really unsustainable.
So.... No free commerce
Friedship with USA will give you a lot of money but you will never get their technology. The Russians atleast give critical technologies to their allies like nucler reactor, rocket technology, jet engine and ship building tech. Better getting that from uncle sam
Never? Bruh, nuclear tech was stolen. Not to mention alot of other stuff from china. Japan was no different. They "get" us technology.
No evidence to back up the statement that you just made. The Russians are giving out trade secrets or technology to their partners???? I don't think so my friend. ALL COUNTRIES want to protect their trade secrets from others. There is a time and place where technology transfer can happen such as joint venture between companies to manufacture a product. Another one is reverse engineering where you study other people works and try to replicate the same for yourself.
If what you said is true, you could always just improve your country enough using said money to attract educated immigrants or your own ones back, ofc that's easier said than done but it's really not a problem as long as you have the money.
You think North Korea is in better shape than Japan because of its friendship with Russia? Get your head examined mate.
Friendship with Japanese is the same. They never share the tech.
You're absolutely wrong. Japan has a very dominant market on analog chips. They just don't compete on digital chips.
Sony does make image sensors tho
They dominated memory chips, not semiconducters like CPU’s
It is not about marketshare, it’s about profitshare.
why Japan lost:
🇯🇵: fairplay
🇺🇸: if you know you know
8:30 - Intel NEVER used TSMC in the 1990s this diagram with TSMC, Apple, and Intel is a MISTAKE. Apple didn't use TSMC in the 1990s, either. QUALCOMM did use them, and Nvidia, and ATI (pre-AMD) I think ...
Sony was NOT the first to produce a transistor radio. Not even the 30th. Regency offered the first in 1954, followed by EVERY major maker in 1955 and off-brands in 1956.
As a Indian we Love respect Japanese Technology ❤❤❤
Due to costly manufacturing cost & china is in compition.
Japan stopped manufacturing electronics products.
Japan made for last Long.....
The answer is politics.
And now both Japan and USA is left behind by others.
Very nice episode. Go ahead.
Simply said: because Japan dare to rival its greedy overlord.
Today, Japan still home to Micron HMB Fabs that are used in Nvidia AI chips
JAV is still the best
Yup. Especially without the censors.
Most are boring. Women over exaggerating their climax with pig sound.
Totally fail to understand the purpose of censored JAV. What's the fucking point?
JAV MILF is the best
One of the reasons Japan came to dominate DRAM production was because the US companies that did it in the 1970s wanted to focus on higher margin parts like CPUs. Intel was once a major DRAM producer but gave it up due to the low margins. It suited the purposes of companies like Intel to let existing and rising Asian producers have the market for those products. They didn't particularly care if a foreign power monopolized vital portions of a modern computer so long as the lion's share of the profits were going to Intel. The US government didn't see it that way.
worst decission ever in economy history : accord plaza
Only for Japan,perfect move for US.
It wasn't a decision at all.
say like you had a chance to refuse
The Plaza Accord was not only signed by Japan, also Germany. There is no semiconductor industry in Germany or Europe.
I saw toshiba, Sony laptops. Where are they now ? 😢
Sad japan isn't part of BRICS....very very sad situation being occupied by USA...
Japan allowed US to continue to stay and have bases and troops there even after gaining back independence and sovereignty
why do you think sinzhu abe was killed?
@@gyan_ki_khoj U freakin believe US had something to do with it? Your sounding ridiculous. Abe was killed by a Japanese man that hated him
@luffyland4996 Propaganda will cause serious discussion among people, then understanding Japan is easy, don't hide it.
Brics is crap
It will fail hard
The "broader economic struggles" were *also* mainly precipitated by the United States forcing Japan to sign the Plaza Accords in 1985. The Japanese economy was doing so well that the yen/dollar rate was highly unfavorable to the US, which forced a more favorable exchange rate. This messed up Japan's economy. The real estate bubble was always going to burst but the strengthening of the yen to the dollar under the Plaza Accords was the beginning of the end of Japanese economic world dominance.
All Japan produced chips, then were US licensed ICs.
Not really, they still dominate in discrete power devices that are used in EV and other high power applications and Sony CCD image sensors still found in all major mobile phone models
More precisely, BSI (Backside Image) Sensors, which are designed to have more area to pick up light, improving the signal to noise ratio.
China will not be the second Japan that bent the knee to the USA. It will face hardships now and will become the leading economy in the world in terms of technology. Xi Jinping had a choice when Trump started the trade war. Either bent the knee and always be number 2 or face hardships now and bear the fruits later.
china and pakistan is a great satan
Japan and Germany are now slaves of USA. 😂
Nope China just switched selling its product to Europe and other parts of Asia where the USA has no influence too because unlike Japan, China spent a decade opening more markets not just in the USA.
Your economy does not want a new cold war with the US. You will learn. Are you ready to start from ground up. That is building a full functional chip without any American or western tech. No you won't and can't , then forcing the rest of the world to switch to your standard 😂. Please America don't have your time. If they do, you will learn
TSMC is next one, so pity
アメリカはTSMCのような技術を持っていないためTSMCは潰しません
しかし、もしTSMCと同等の技術をアメリカが手に入れたら…
@@田所浩二-o5o TSMC -> ASMC
Hundreds years ago, China already trade with South East Asia.
But only trade, even China is powerful.
When European came, they colonies right away.
Same with Muslim caliphates, they had extensive trade routes throughout the Indian Ocean without colonizing any country.
It sounds like US government intervened to help its companies by complaining about Japanese government helping its companies. How ironic.
TLDR: USA was salty
Japan probably doesnt need to.
簡単よ、米国が許さなかった
Isn't Japan dominating in the analog chip market? For example, many power amplifier manufacturers use output transistors from Toshiba, Sanken, etc.
The United States is the world's largest chip designer, and Taiwan is the second largest.
Only according to the usa
Nah. Soon not anymore
China raise up in that business
@@zredplayer我们中国还有很长的路要走。芯片设计和制造没那么容易。尤其在全球的封锁下
@@niuLiu-n7li hope one day. don't let yourself be defeated
@@zredplayer 如果按照现在的技术制造高端芯片，中国可能永远追不上！ 除非有其他新的技术制造高端芯片，比如光芯片
Interesting, and quite nostalgic. I saw this at the time through the lens of an independent Sillycon Valley fab service foundry.
Simple answer
The United States will never allow someone to be on top that they can't control.
0:48 this is EXACTLY how korean semiconductor industry started.
also EXACTLY how China started.
"Japan copied our technology,
China stole out technology"
WHAT ELSE can a sore loser say in face of defeat.
HAHAHAHAHAH
nah they are just more capable
fabulous work by editors
Summary : usa, because afraid that japan has surpassed them 😅
They now doing same to China