One of the best art-rock (hate that term) / progressive LP’s of the 80’s. Considering the talent (Howe, Sylvian) that chip in, it’s incredibly coherent.There are several mixes of this track available, you picked one of the best. The recent reunion of Claudia and Susanne with Stephen Lipson (producer) as xPropaganda was a sleek synthpop delight.
Surprised to see a reaction to this! For me, ‘A Secret Wish’ is one of the best albums of the 80s in any genre. And of course, being a ZTT release, there are myriad versions/mixes of every track to explore.
@@hubertvancalenbergh9022 Indeed. Propaganda has made only 2 albums "A secret wish" and "1234". Both are so different but both are good in their own way.
Just a fantastic album. Dr Mabuse and P machinery are stand-out tracks for me , but all are great... there's Claudia Brucken's spin-off group with Thomas Leer called ACT. Also fantastic... listen to the cover of I'd be surprisingly good for you ( From Evita ). Claudia's vocals are INCREDIBLE !!! 😍
I love this track. I was excited to see you did a reaction to it! From the same album, P:Machinery and Frozen Faces are two other great tracks. (Frozen Faces is not on all versions of the album. I think it was originally released as a B-side to one of their singles).
Gloriously atmospheric, I haven't played my Propaganda collection in almost 40 years - Goddam! Thanks for the reminder, this is on my turntable right now.
The producer was actually Steven Lispon - Trevor Horn worked on Dr Mabuse but because of other commitments Lipson produced most of the album. Suzanne did the vocal (she always did spoken parts, Claudia sang) and Jeff Henderson played the amazing trumpet. There were different versions on the LP and CD releases - the LP one is shorter and had a great guitar solo. Wonderful track, dreamlike , the percussion echoing the sea, the trumpet wistful and yearning.
I loved this album since I first heard it. It brings back memories of a dark room, a few friends, an excellent stereo loud, lots of wine and just letting the music take over us. I still listen to it a lot and this is one of the best tracks on the album. The whole album is sublime and is worth listening to end to end, loud! Big speakers working hard! Glad you appreciate it!
Essential album of the 80s by an almost forgotten band. So glad you engage into it! This first track is one the coolest introduction ever, so in phase with the title as the movement goes over and over
1985 was the year the 80s went wrong, when Live Aid pointed bands away from interesting arty-ness and towards empty, stadium-sized bombast. A Secret Wish was a wonderful exception that bucked this trend, as was New Order's Low Life and Shriekback's Oil And Gold. But the original vinyl mix of this song is EVEN better.
Saw Claudia and Susanne live last year. They played under the name xPropaganda. Had a little chat with them and there were so sweet. It was great to see so many of the songs that are etched in my music-DNA played live. Their last album is very good too!
Oh man, I totally agree with you! It's sooo much better!! I'd never heard _this_ version before and was surprised (and admittedly also slightly disappointed) when the drums kicked in already after the intro 😏 So _this_ is a CD mix? That's weird! Because the one on mine is the same as on the original LP (thank God)!
@@rymerster - But I'd bought mine in '98 and when I was still living in Germany! And it _still_ had the proper version on it! 🤔 Well possible it's a re-release and they decided to get rid of this weird version for it, though 😄
@@mightyV444 According to the Wikipedia article, quoting from the 2010 CD sleeve notes, the three month delay between the vinyl and CD releases gave Steve Lipson the opportunity to remix the album to his satisfaction, and he considers the CD to be the definitive version. The trouble is of course, not many folks had CDs in 1985, and so the vinyl version will be the one most are familiar with. I don't dislike this version, but I do wish they would stick it on a remix album instead of trying to retcon the main album like this.
@@JohnWhipp - Thank you for that info! 😀👍 I must say I'm quite surprised that Steve Lipson himself had thought the original LP version needed improvement! 😳 But it does _not_ surprise me that there are more than only 1 version, looking at all the different mixes of Frankie Goes To Hollywood songs! 😅
Don't sound so surprised when you say "this is really cool" - when have we ever let you down with our recommendations? One of the best synth-pop albums of the 80s!
The original vinyl version of this and the whole album is still the best. They messed with the track listing in subsequent reissues which was a shame. This is such a great opener to a fab album.
Afternoon Justin. Dave from a spring-like London (Good Day, Sunshine!). Back in the mid 80s, I was mad keen on this new tech synth sound from Trevor Horn's ZTT label, and especially Propaganda and Art of Noise. I saw them both live on a ZTT package tour. The driving percussion from Michael Mertens was even more pronounced live. The version of Dream that I originally had on vinyl built up to a guitar solo, and I prefer that. Not sure if it was Steve Howe, but I'm pretty sure he plays on the next track, The Murder of Love. I agree that the 'trumpet' really makes the song, but it may be a sample keyboard (it was in the live show I saw). .
Listening this music is taking me back in time literally, closing my eyes and ... feel like when I was teenager ..... wasting time listening those songs, dreaming .... about the future .... now is the future and I'm dreaming about the past ..... Amazing stuff.
Yeah - i recommend also P-Machinery - and of course - again and again - The Art of Noise - the Album daft. One more from ZTT and Trevor Horn and beside Propaganda, Frankie goes to Hollywood, Grace Jones the real core of that label. The holy cow - so to say….
Thanks for reminding me of this song. I had the album at that time but haven't heard it since. I like this song even more today than I did back then. Great track.
The album is recognised as one of the best produced albums from the 80s, but most asume it was Trevor Horn's work. He was too busy with Frankie goes to Hollywood, so passed production to Steve Lipson. Claudia, Susanne and Steve reformed as xPropaganda and recently released a brand new album (and a remix album of course)
JP, You should totally go on with the album. Like others, I recommend the vinyl tracklisting that has a better flow, with the exception of Jewel, which is truncated in the vinyl version. And... remember... Sylvian wrote the intro melody to P-machinery. You'll just have to work your way to it (and then chill by listening to the next tracks).
Bought this great album immediately when it was released back then after hearing one track on the radio. This is not the same version of the song as I have on the original record.
Propraganda and Teevor Horns Bolero-esque magical soundscape...i just sink in everytime and.let it build and layer and envelope. Lettimg the E A Poe poem be recited and not sung..perfection. Enjoy the whole album.
Me and my friends used to spin this album quite a lot when it came out, loved how well it sounded when cranked up on our stereo systems + some of the tracks are damn good.
Probably one of my top ten track ever! Saw the play the whole album live in London just before the Pandemic it was on of by best gigs I’ve never experienced!
Absolutely brilliant opener. Still prefer the vinyl version, mainly because the drum solo is a bit awkward and interrupts the crescendo of the guitars that otherwise builds up. Regardless, pretty cool to have different versions of the same album on vinyl and CD.
Love this song. I'm trying to remember if ex Simple Minds bassist Derek Forbes joined Propaganda around this time, or if he merely filled in live along with Japan's Steve Jansen
I do know for sure that Derek had been a member of the band when their 2nd album '1 2 3 4' was released. The lead singer was a different one then too, and their sound was way poppier than this.
Too bad this wasn't the actual album version but a remix! But hey, you still loved it, so it's all good 😊👍 The original album version _is_ even better, though!! 😁
I'm surprised you haven't wanted to hear more Gypsy. Really thought you'd love it as much as I do. I'm also still holding out hope that you check out both 'The Poke' and 'Masques' by Brand X, off their album 'Masques'.
Propaganda was never forgotten .... this band wasn't simply as well known as plenty of other groups .... not sure why ;) as Propaganda was extremely good in my humble opinion.
"It is all that we see or seem. But a Dream Within A Dream". Silently I suppress a scream. As through the void, I careen. "Sorry For Laughing" but it's all Propaganda.Peace & Love.
I enjoyed that. Meaning I let it loosen me up a bit, and that felt good. At a superficial level one could call it "monotonous", but there's a continuous stream of new threads weaving through, so that word is not the word you're looking for if trying to describe what puts you off it, if that's the so. There might be reasons for being put off, but monotony can't be one. Well I say so. I suppose I might be wrong. Maybe I'm into monotony or something. :D (Yet another family member involved in yet another dangerous situation. That destroys one's well preserved avoidance of seeing signs of decay, disintegration, where things fall apart; the centre won't hold, as Chinua Achebe would put it. Peace requires some deliberate ignorance/ unawareness. So my guts turned out to be happy to have something to unwind them today. A song is good in some context. Sometimes one becomes aware of that.) And now I've gone and messed it all up a bit - although I've learned to be quite calm about this kind of thing when just hearing of it. This is the TL;DR spot. No need to read on. So it's a relative who believed in calling 357 instead of 911, as RL Burnside put it. Had the house completely locked up. Took a little nap. Gun safe is always open, because he's timed himself, and needs 5 seconds to get to it, and it takes about 30 seconds to destroy the best security gate money can buy - outside of a prison - an official prison, anyway. And then guy he told you so, needed the gun for must have been watching. Was skinny. Squeezed in under the kitchen gate. Woke my relative by poking him with the barrel of his own firearm. Was either a nice criminal, or didn't want to make a noise, and couldn't bring himself to descend to stabbing people again now he had the means to just blow their brains out from a distance. Nobody died. So everyone lived happily ever after. Until later that day when the same skinny criminal tried to break into one of the neighbours, but set off the alarm, and had to run down into the nature reserve out back (I did say we'd reached the TL;DR point, I think?), and the security company guards tracked him down there, he opened fire on them and missed. They returned fire, hit him, made him drop everything and crawl into the undergrowth. And later at the local hospital the nurses got suspicious about his injuries, and called the police, who arrested him. So not everything is going to hell, then. (And nobody died, which is generally preferable - although in some cases if the right person dies, the next ten people he kills or irreparably destroys won't have to ever have the misfortune to meet him ... ... like the gang who did things with a TH-cam forbidden word to some little boy's mother down a path by a railway, and chased after the little boy when he ran away, caught him, punished him by stabbing him a few times in the buttocks (because apparently the experts say that's the most painful place) and then dragged him back to force him to watch ... No, sorry, things really are going to hell. Should've just stayed in the groove made by the song, and kept away from what I keep away from.
Atmospheric and a nice listen, but not something to which I feel compelled to return. However, I thank you for letting me hear this version - certainly not unpleasant; with some nice passages.
I like it but would’ve liked it a lot more if there was some kind of change; either a break, a different pedal point in the bass every once in a while, or if it was shorter.
An ok tune with some spoken word. And speaking of those ZTT boys... for an upgrade, I'd give Grace Jones, Slave to the Rhythm a spin, the 1985 12" version. TH at his best.
The whole Slave to the Rhythm album is excellent (by which I mean the original 1985 vinyl album, not the abridged version on the UK CD) and so Justin should react to it in one go, as the pieces on this album are to be taken as a whole and not individually. In that sense, Justin should take the 2015 remastered CD to get closer to the original version.
@@a.k.1740 Aye, the original album would make a great addition to the 'long song saturday' playliist. And it deserves (more, needs) to be heard in one sitting. Though, full disclosure, if he somehow dropped Operattack, I wouldn't be too devastated. And if he were to play it track by track, and started with that, out of context, it could well put him off the rest of the LP, imho :)
Nothing happens in eight minutes. The time it would have taken the Ramones to come up with eight songs. 😆 It's hard enough to endure it on record, so I can only imagine the ordeal you endured live!🙄
@@Owlstretchingtime78 Next to Propaganda, The Stranglers must have been a delight, even if they had already been in artistic decline for some time! I saw them twice in early '83/fall '83 and never wanted to see them again. Not that they were bad (far from it), but musically they were already moving away from what I liked about them. I would have preferred to see them on The Meninblack tour or La Folie tour, but alas, they were banned from France for three years for what you know. I therefore had no choice but to see them on the Feline tour (which is good enough).😉
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One of the best art-rock (hate that term) / progressive LP’s of the 80’s. Considering the talent (Howe, Sylvian) that chip in, it’s incredibly coherent.There are several mixes of this track available, you picked one of the best. The recent reunion of Claudia and Susanne with Stephen Lipson (producer) as xPropaganda was a sleek synthpop delight.
totally agree with you
Surprised to see a reaction to this!
For me, ‘A Secret Wish’ is one of the best albums of the 80s in any genre.
And of course, being a ZTT release, there are myriad versions/mixes of every track to explore.
Their second album is with a different singer, Betsy Miller. Mostly ignored, but definitely worth a listen!
@@hubertvancalenbergh9022 Indeed. Propaganda has made only 2 albums "A secret wish" and "1234". Both are so different but both are good in their own way.
Def one of the best albums of the 80s....and yes agree 1234 was a great record too...loved Betsy's voice.
Just a fantastic album. Dr Mabuse and P machinery are stand-out tracks for me , but all are great... there's Claudia Brucken's spin-off group with Thomas Leer called ACT. Also fantastic... listen to the cover of I'd be surprisingly good for you ( From Evita ). Claudia's vocals are INCREDIBLE !!! 😍
It's like a trance. Keeps chugging along and draws you in. Love it.
I love this track. I was excited to see you did a reaction to it!
From the same album, P:Machinery and Frozen Faces are two other great tracks. (Frozen Faces is not on all versions of the album. I think it was originally released as a B-side to one of their singles).
When this came out it was sensational to me. The female singers took my breath away. I never get bored with them.
Gloriously atmospheric, I haven't played my Propaganda collection in almost 40 years - Goddam!
Thanks for the reminder, this is on my turntable right now.
The producer was actually Steven Lispon - Trevor Horn worked on Dr Mabuse but because of other commitments Lipson produced most of the album. Suzanne did the vocal (she always did spoken parts, Claudia sang) and Jeff Henderson played the amazing trumpet. There were different versions on the LP and CD releases - the LP one is shorter and had a great guitar solo. Wonderful track, dreamlike , the percussion echoing the sea, the trumpet wistful and yearning.
I loved this album since I first heard it. It brings back memories of a dark room, a few friends, an excellent stereo loud, lots of wine and just letting the music take over us. I still listen to it a lot and this is one of the best tracks on the album. The whole album is sublime and is worth listening to end to end, loud! Big speakers working hard! Glad you appreciate it!
Love this track as an opener. Very smooth and lush. If you don't do the whole album, you've gotta at least do Duel, P-Machinery, and Murder of Love.
this album is a vibe. worth a full listen
Essential album of the 80s by an almost forgotten band. So glad you engage into it! This first track is one the coolest introduction ever, so in phase with the title as the movement goes over and over
I can't believe I've never heard this brilliant, cool track before. Thanks man!
The mix from the original album release is even better!
😀👍
1985 was the year the 80s went wrong, when Live Aid pointed bands away from interesting arty-ness and towards empty, stadium-sized bombast. A Secret Wish was a wonderful exception that bucked this trend, as was New Order's Low Life and Shriekback's Oil And Gold.
But the original vinyl mix of this song is EVEN better.
Indeed - on all points!
One of the best 80s albums ever!
Saw Claudia and Susanne live last year. They played under the name xPropaganda. Had a little chat with them and there were so sweet. It was great to see so many of the songs that are etched in my music-DNA played live. Their last album is very good too!
This LP has always been a little piece of gold in my collection.
You REALLY need to hear the vinyl version, which is a totally different mix / take to this one, the CD version.
Oh man, I totally agree with you! It's sooo much better!!
I'd never heard _this_ version before and was surprised (and admittedly also slightly disappointed) when the drums kicked in already after the intro 😏
So _this_ is a CD mix? That's weird! Because the one on mine is the same as on the original LP (thank God)!
@@mightyV444 yes the first US CD was the same as the vinyl. In the UK and Europe we got an alternate version with different mixes of most songs.
@@rymerster - But I'd bought mine in '98 and when I was still living in Germany! And it _still_ had the proper version on it! 🤔
Well possible it's a re-release and they decided to get rid of this weird version for it, though 😄
@@mightyV444 According to the Wikipedia article, quoting from the 2010 CD sleeve notes, the three month delay between the vinyl and CD releases gave Steve Lipson the opportunity to remix the album to his satisfaction, and he considers the CD to be the definitive version. The trouble is of course, not many folks had CDs in 1985, and so the vinyl version will be the one most are familiar with. I don't dislike this version, but I do wish they would stick it on a remix album instead of trying to retcon the main album like this.
@@JohnWhipp - Thank you for that info! 😀👍 I must say I'm quite surprised that Steve Lipson himself had thought the original LP version needed improvement! 😳
But it does _not_ surprise me that there are more than only 1 version, looking at all the different mixes of Frankie Goes To Hollywood songs! 😅
The lyrics are a famous Edgar Allan Poe poem.
Alan Parson's used that poem on his Tales album -- seems to be an influence for this song.
Listen to the whole albuim - well worth it...
Fav track from one of my fav 80s albums, truly amazing stuff ❤ soo dreamy and hypnotic, really does the Poe poem justice
Don't sound so surprised when you say "this is really cool" - when have we ever let you down with our recommendations? One of the best synth-pop albums of the 80s!
I never get tired of hearing this album... and all the many many versions of the songs
Thanks for reacting to this one. The album also has prog style reprisals. Recommended!
Happy to! Ty Alfred
I'd put this in my top 5 albums of the 80's ... I was lucky enough to see Claudia and Suzanne last year perform a lot of this album as xPropaganda
This song sounds awesome! Smooth like a smooth Jazz song with something a little extra. First song I'ver heard by Propaganda...won't be the last.
The whole album is great.
I remember buying this album after watching the Christopher Lambert film Subway, so cool.
Classic album, so many goodies
The original vinyl version of this and the whole album is still the best. They messed with the track listing in subsequent reissues which was a shame. This is such a great opener to a fab album.
Unusual but excellent reaction choice. Great band... thanks
Afternoon Justin. Dave from a spring-like London (Good Day, Sunshine!). Back in the mid 80s, I was mad keen on this new tech synth sound from Trevor Horn's ZTT label, and especially Propaganda and Art of Noise. I saw them both live on a ZTT package tour. The driving percussion from Michael Mertens was even more pronounced live. The version of Dream that I originally had on vinyl built up to a guitar solo, and I prefer that. Not sure if it was Steve Howe, but I'm pretty sure he plays on the next track, The Murder of Love. I agree that the 'trumpet' really makes the song, but it may be a sample keyboard (it was in the live show I saw). .
I was sure you would love it. Now on to Duel and P.Machinery (and also P. second album 1234 which is extremely different ut nice too).
I used to love getting stoned and drifting off into the music,love the 80s
Listening this music is taking me back in time literally, closing my eyes and ... feel like when I was teenager ..... wasting time listening those songs, dreaming .... about the future .... now is the future and I'm dreaming about the past .....
Amazing stuff.
Yeah - i recommend also P-Machinery - and of course - again and again - The Art of Noise - the Album daft. One more from ZTT and Trevor Horn and beside Propaganda, Frankie goes to Hollywood, Grace Jones the real core of that label. The holy cow - so to say….
…. Believe me - The Art of Noise is the one thing that you are waiting for!
Also a very underrated/unknown album is Hoodlum Priest - Heart of Darkness on ZTT records ,definitely up there with Frankie ,AON and Propaganda.
Yeah, that's great! Play more...
Thanks for reminding me of this song. I had the album at that time but haven't heard it since. I like this song even more today than I did back then. Great track.
The album is recognised as one of the best produced albums from the 80s, but most asume it was Trevor Horn's work. He was too busy with Frankie goes to Hollywood, so passed production to Steve Lipson. Claudia, Susanne and Steve reformed as xPropaganda and recently released a brand new album (and a remix album of course)
JP, You should totally go on with the album. Like others, I recommend the vinyl tracklisting that has a better flow, with the exception of Jewel, which is truncated in the vinyl version.
And... remember... Sylvian wrote the intro melody to P-machinery. You'll just have to work your way to it (and then chill by listening to the next tracks).
Thanks DF! I'm definitely going to check out more
Bought this great album immediately when it was released back then after hearing one track on the radio.
This is not the same version of the song as I have on the original record.
Propraganda and Teevor Horns Bolero-esque magical soundscape...i just sink in everytime and.let it build and layer and envelope. Lettimg the E A Poe poem be recited and not sung..perfection. Enjoy the whole album.
You can never put a finger on life, trapped in its qualities till its over.
Like the way you dive into the sound of this music!
Me and my friends used to spin this album quite a lot when it came out, loved how well it sounded when cranked up on our stereo systems + some of the tracks are damn good.
Probably one of my top ten track ever! Saw the play the whole album live in London just before the Pandemic it was on of by best gigs I’ve never experienced!
I've still got the cd
Maybe the most progressive pop track of the 80's, and still the best
BTW - the guitar solo in the middle is missing in this version. Find the fuller
Absolutely brilliant opener. Still prefer the vinyl version, mainly because the drum solo is a bit awkward and interrupts the crescendo of the guitars that otherwise builds up. Regardless, pretty cool to have different versions of the same album on vinyl and CD.
Love this song. I'm trying to remember if ex Simple Minds bassist Derek Forbes joined Propaganda around this time, or if he merely filled in live along with Japan's Steve Jansen
I do know for sure that Derek had been a member of the band when their 2nd album '1 2 3 4' was released.
The lead singer was a different one then too, and their sound was way poppier than this.
I saw them live on the tour for this album and Derek was bassist for their live performances.
Too bad this wasn't the actual album version but a remix! But hey, you still loved it, so it's all good 😊👍
The original album version _is_ even better, though!! 😁
It’s been a long time since I listened to this one. Thank you for reminding me❤
Happily Shangrilana! Love the username
I'm surprised you haven't wanted to hear more Gypsy. Really thought you'd love it as much as I do. I'm also still holding out hope that you check out both 'The Poke' and 'Masques' by Brand X, off their album 'Masques'.
Stewart Copeland on the drums in the middle section
I like this one and also p machinery
Love this song! ... It would be great if you could explore more of the ZTT catalog, especially Art Of Noise!
Great development in the track!
Propaganda was never forgotten .... this band wasn't simply as well known as plenty of other groups .... not sure why ;) as Propaganda was extremely good in my humble opinion.
Nice vibe.
Love this song ❤ hope you can finally get back to reacting to Prefab Sprout 😢 Jordan the comeback is the album belive me
"It is all that we see or seem. But a Dream Within A Dream". Silently I suppress a scream. As through the void, I careen. "Sorry For Laughing" but it's all Propaganda.Peace & Love.
This reminds me a bit of Jade Warrior. 🤔
I enjoyed that. Meaning I let it loosen me up a bit, and that felt good. At a superficial level one could call it "monotonous", but there's a continuous stream of new threads weaving through, so that word is not the word you're looking for if trying to describe what puts you off it, if that's the so. There might be reasons for being put off, but monotony can't be one. Well I say so. I suppose I might be wrong. Maybe I'm into monotony or something. :D
(Yet another family member involved in yet another dangerous situation. That destroys one's well preserved avoidance of seeing signs of decay, disintegration, where things fall apart; the centre won't hold, as Chinua Achebe would put it. Peace requires some deliberate ignorance/ unawareness. So my guts turned out to be happy to have something to unwind them today. A song is good in some context. Sometimes one becomes aware of that.)
And now I've gone and messed it all up a bit - although I've learned to be quite calm about this kind of thing when just hearing of it.
This is the TL;DR spot. No need to read on.
So it's a relative who believed in calling 357 instead of 911, as RL Burnside put it. Had the house completely locked up. Took a little nap. Gun safe is always open, because he's timed himself, and needs 5 seconds to get to it, and it takes about 30 seconds to destroy the best security gate money can buy - outside of a prison - an official prison, anyway.
And then guy he told you so, needed the gun for must have been watching. Was skinny. Squeezed in under the kitchen gate. Woke my relative by poking him with the barrel of his own firearm. Was either a nice criminal, or didn't want to make a noise, and couldn't bring himself to descend to stabbing people again now he had the means to just blow their brains out from a distance. Nobody died. So everyone lived happily ever after.
Until later that day when the same skinny criminal tried to break into one of the neighbours, but set off the alarm, and had to run down into the nature reserve out back (I did say we'd reached the TL;DR point, I think?), and the security company guards tracked him down there, he opened fire on them and missed. They returned fire, hit him, made him drop everything and crawl into the undergrowth. And later at the local hospital the nurses got suspicious about his injuries, and called the police, who arrested him.
So not everything is going to hell, then. (And nobody died, which is generally preferable - although in some cases if the right person dies, the next ten people he kills or irreparably destroys won't have to ever have the misfortune to meet him ...
... like the gang who did things with a TH-cam forbidden word to some little boy's mother down a path by a railway, and chased after the little boy when he ran away, caught him, punished him by stabbing him a few times in the buttocks (because apparently the experts say that's the most painful place) and then dragged him back to force him to watch ...
No, sorry, things really are going to hell. Should've just stayed in the groove made by the song, and kept away from what I keep away from.
Atmospheric and a nice listen, but not something to which I feel compelled to return. However, I thank you for letting me hear this version - certainly not unpleasant; with some nice passages.
This track alone is worth buying the album...
Interesting.
Second song I’ve heard in a week called DWAD. weird
I like it but would’ve liked it a lot more if there was some kind of change; either a break, a different pedal point in the bass every once in a while, or if it was shorter.
Its hypnotic
Normaly Susanne Frytag speaking most of the parts... even at their new xPropaganda CD's
An ok tune with some spoken word. And speaking of those ZTT boys... for an upgrade, I'd give Grace Jones, Slave to the Rhythm a spin, the 1985 12" version. TH at his best.
The whole Slave to the Rhythm album is excellent (by which I mean the original 1985 vinyl album, not the abridged version on the UK CD) and so Justin should react to it in one go, as the pieces on this album are to be taken as a whole and not individually. In that sense, Justin should take the 2015 remastered CD to get closer to the original version.
@@a.k.1740 Aye, the original album would make a great addition to the 'long song saturday' playliist. And it deserves (more, needs) to be heard in one sitting. Though, full disclosure, if he somehow dropped Operattack, I wouldn't be too devastated. And if he were to play it track by track, and started with that, out of context, it could well put him off the rest of the LP, imho :)
@@jfergs.3302 Well, "Operattack" is part of the concept, but it's true that we could have done without it!😉
Dont forget Stephen Lipson. He played a big part on both "A secret Wish" and "Slave to the rhytm"
@@espenstorm737Aye, fair enough.
Produced and arranged by...TREVOR HORN, enuff said
Edgar Allan Poe!
Not for me . Duel is brilliant though.
For me it's the other way round, I love this track but Duel / Jewel doesn't really do it for me!
Saw them supporting The Stranglers in '86, and they were bloody awful. This song reminds me why!
Nothing happens in eight minutes. The time it would have taken the Ramones to come up with eight songs. 😆
It's hard enough to endure it on record, so I can only imagine the ordeal you endured live!🙄
@@a.k.1740 The songs were below average, but they were so out of tune! 🤯
@@Owlstretchingtime78 Next to Propaganda, The Stranglers must have been a delight, even if they had already been in artistic decline for some time!
I saw them twice in early '83/fall '83 and never wanted to see them again. Not that they were bad (far from it), but musically they were already moving away from what I liked about them. I would have preferred to see them on The Meninblack tour or La Folie tour, but alas, they were banned from France for three years for what you know. I therefore had no choice but to see them on the Feline tour (which is good enough).😉
@a.k.1740 Are you into Morbid Angel mate? You've left no comment and i'm genuinely interested!
@@Owlstretchingtime78 I left a message about Morbid Angel ten minutes ago. Not my stuff at all.
Eight long, boring minutes. For what?😒😴