The best thing to do with Eleanor is as soon as you have enough loyalty pressure going out towards a city to conquer it, you can easily just keep selling it back to its original owner in exchange for stuff. I did it for Great Works, it was hilarious. I emptied Kristine's library by constantly ransoming her own cities back to her.
I always get cultural victory without trying, it's been a problem since civ 5, its just too easy to pick up incidentally. like I dont even build theater squares just monuments until uh I need to get places to put art like the other day I was playing maori on terra map, used the owls of minervas first two promotions and forgot about them made suzerainty of all the states on my continent, and then I was doing about 600 science and 600 culture around turn 250, we've got moonlandings allready happening across the board, and I install a card giving me 5% more total science per every suzerain you are, I didnt even know that card existed so I get 105% science 1368 per turn I'm almost entirely out of sciences, ai is keeping up, and two turns I dont remember building anything specific, my culture just spikes to 1600 ( got suzerainty of a city state which granted mad culture on all international trade routes or something like that) without me doing anything special. Potato Mcwhiskey got those kinds of numbers on a single city ehtiopia challenge the other day, broken AF, this game is off the chain this summer.
Cultural Victory often happens if you conquer without eliminating other Civs. As a rule of thumb, you start progressing, if: (Your Tourism/turn × Remaining other Civs)/(Starting number of Civs × Highest enemy culture/turn) > 2 By conquering cities in the midgame and leaving Civs with one city remaining, you can maximize this number without even trying.
@@WildFungus "I dont even build theater squares just monuments until uh I need to get places to put art." If you aren't building Theatre Squares, you won't be generating Great Artist points or earning any artists.
Everyone: Cultural victories happened just by accident. Me: My only victory in Civ 5 was a cultural victory that I built during the entire game.... I think I'll just go cry :p
@@zarchivedscronch926 i usually take out the turn limit which is always fun but you would think if you took out victories they would have less stuff to strive for and hate you for
This is the most British description of world conquest that I've ever heard. "Oh, we would never, they just love us so much that they decided to join us!"
Sun Tzu says: "To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the pinnacle of excellence. The true pinnacle of excellence is to defeat your enemy *without having to fight.*"
@@ProfessorYana an yt named technoblade made that video and on it he quote Sun Tzu. The guy is really popular so now a lot of people have been saying random things and saying that it's a quote from Sun Tzu as a joke.
The most impressive part about this channel is I can't tell if he speaks as he's playing or does it after the fact because the audio edits are flawless when it's clear that he's had to edit gameplay much faster. Very impressive editing.
@@TH-cam_Stole_My_Handle_Too those are not keyboard noises, but mouseclicks, which conveniently always coincide with an action on screen. I would be surprised if he had gone that far just to “fool” the audience about something most just don’t even think about
31:13 See he is going to win a culture victory in 22 turns 29:05 wins a culture victory. I think there's a few clips in the wrong place spiff, either that or I've travelled through time
Honestly you never know with Spiff. Did he messed up the editing, or did he exploit the flow of time and bend it to his will in a way that violates the laws of physics as we know them? Both is equally possible
Spiff, next time, just disable all other victory conditions except Domination. Then you don't have to worry about accidentally winning a Culture victory!
The ai is aware of victory conditions, even ghandi will go for a domination victory if its the only option. With the focus being non military units he would be considered weak by the ai and be targeted first. He could make a straw man army to prevent the ai from attempting to attack, but domination civs like the aztecs will just attack shared borders. And the final civ will declare war when its the only ai remaining unless you make 30 turn peace treaty, which requires all you resources because they will only agree to starve you before attacking
@@l0remipsum991 because they will use faith for other purposes, the farther they spread it the more points for buying. It's not a smart move but I've seen it before
@@ThomasOwOD to me "exploit" means something the devs didn't intend, this is completely intended. Sure it looks OP but everything in this newest pack is OP just gotta know how to take advantage of it.
@@clayd4488 There are lots of OP features and strategies in Civ 6, and the longer the game goes on, the more OP features are added. All the DLC civs are super powerful compared to most of the vanilla civs.
Just trying to imagine waking up in the morning, grabbing some Yorkshire Tea and looking out my window to find out the city I live in is surrounded by hooded figures shouting fiery sermons about Minecraft clones.
22:25 when you're not absolutely gaming everything that's essentially how loyalty actually works, which is why the AI doesn't react to it. making your civ better makes them look like bad rulers in comparison to you, also you're using Eleanor's special perk to skip the on the fence step where they've left the previous civ but are still thinking about joining you, which essentially forces you to tank a second loyalty meter before it converts. If the other civ can stop you by shoring up their missing pieces, they might also go back. With Eleanor this isn't possible, they either have to start BEATING you at this game, not just evening it out, or go for conquest, but as you observed, and as its supposed to work as intended, the AI doesn't react to losing cities this way because it is supposed to be a natural occurrence.
They patched it... If you have cultist on your opponents land NOW they ask you to remove your troops and denounce you if you keep a cultist on their land... and getting their loyalty down to zero does NOTHING, you have to get the loyalty per turn to be below 0 after they patched it... Which is ridiculously hard and annoying. Do not recommend trying because it is literally impossible after they found out about this.
AI reacts to losing loyalty by putting governors and other stuff but they are probably confused and dont know how to stop it completely Player would just atack eleanor or kill her early game but ai doesnt do such things..mostly
Fun fact: There's a rock band promotion that means that each performance the city loses like 35 loyalty so one time I put 3 rock bands into a strong city from my science victory competitor and it completely screwed their science game
The hard part is that you need Cultural Hegemony for that card, which is a future era civic. Which means your culture output better be good if you want to make use of it quickly. Also, the loyalty is reduced by 40, but not all cities have 3 performance avenues for your rock bands, so you might have to spread your rave over several turns. This civic also provides you with a similar card for your spies, which can also aid in your peaceful conquest a bit. But secret societies seems to make this strategy infinitely easier anyway.
I have actually almost managed to pull that "exploit" off by an accident. I played the game as France, without knowing that Eleanor's perk (because I didn't read it, I just wanted to play as France in Europe map), I have eradicated 5 out of 7 AI's, had 6 AI capitals and had to hide all arts and governors deep in my lands to NOT win a pacifist conquest victory, since I wanted to win a Culture Victory for the first time. But it was fun to have a entire Europe under my control, looked like Napoleon's or Austrian Aquarellist's dream. But all while having super friendly relations with all nations I was devouring with the power of literature, paintings and music.
"Welcome to London, famously built near a rainforest" Well, there"s definitely rain in London. And it probably got a forest nearby, at one point of history :p
@@andrewmurphy5310 I don't know, I visited London only as a tourist :p But probably, there's often forests in big cities (in Paris there is two forests, Boulogne and Fontainebleau ^^).
London indeed WAS surrounded by forest; they cut basically all of it down to build the city in the first place. Anything else was cut down some time later for whatever people needed wood for. England's forests are famously shrinking, what with it being an isle and all that.
That's nuts. I love how the Voidsingers apparently have a master plan that starts in the stone age and doesn't reach its culmination until modern times.
With the power of Yorkshire Gold one gains the ability of time travel because tea enhances human perception beyond regular limitations meaning you can see the ebb and flow of time as it twists into infinity and fades into oblivion and once you can see the door of infinity you too like Spiff can access time itself.
The Ottomans can be a similar problem to this challenge. As soon as they assign Ibrahim to Eleanor's capital, British occupied cities don't put any loyalty pressure onto any ottoman cities.
Spiff, you didn't need to wait that long to get Tyre as cultists can do their thing after moving, so surrounding Tyre with two layers of cultists, draining the inner layer until they had one charge left and then hitting them with twelve cultists in a turn should have worked.
Hint, hint: Japan used to be conquerors mostly conquering their own local lords back an forth, but occasionally Asia (especially China and Korea), too. Also they have an emperor they don't mention in anime because that's a no-no. And suddenly we only think of cute cartoons and girls in fancy fashion.
I have done something similar! You can also put entertainement complex near your theater square to boost the theater square and then use the project bread and circuses to add some more pressure when needed. Oh and there are some rock bands that lower the loyalty by 40 which is ridiculous with Eleanor.
No, lets be honest. He has fused the power of the eldrich with the power of tea. He has brought to the world: *YORKSHIRE CTHULHU* The world seems much less perturbed by this than normal Cthulhu, despite it actually being stronger.
28:50 Capturing German cities... 29:05 Culture win... 31:10 "We're probably actually going to win a culture victory in 22 turns"... 31:42 Going to have to start converting Germany I think something happened, Spiff... Has the power of tea broken time again?
Even before the new DLC I had runs where I loyalty flipped 80% of a pangea map as Eleanor. Great Works + Amani + Bread and circuses project = the AI is screwed When I play Eleanor I always name my religion All Shall Love Me And Despair
Next time, if you are aiming for a particular victory, like the domination one here, you can disable other victory types so you don't accidentally get a victory that you didn't want. Also, I kinda want to try this now.
For the record, on Deity difficulty, you can get a legit military victory before culture victory with this strategy. Remember to not theme your museums, and never use policies or governor titles that boost tourism.
British Envoys: We demand you join our Empire! Not British people: What if we say no? British Envoys: If you do not... we will be forced to use our superior linguistic skills to convince you to join! Not British people: Ha! I'd like to see that! *10 minutes later* Not British people: Want some tea?
Slapped the like button. I'm waiting for my British citizenship to be brought by Eleonora herself. Can't keep it for myself because I have a Slovak one already but I'll give it to a friend of mine. He will be happy for sure and will immediately fly over to the UK and salute the queen.
You could have tried to surround Tyre with 1 charge cultists, since they disappear, then moved in with another wave in the same turn. Either way it worked.
37:37 and the sad thing about all of this is, even if he did NOT capture cities via loyalty flips this easily, he still has 23k faith, and a rifleman costs 200........ He could just insta-spawn a worldwide army to conquer the world traditionally. This game..... It's as if one OP thing wasnt enough, it just hands you another for free on a silver platter xD
Being completely fair, when you do cheesy stuff like this, the snowball means victory is basically unavoidable. Had a game where i just went for a normal science run with Korea, not doing anything crazy and just using them as intended, while a buddy tried to do religion. By the 1500's I had thermonuclear warheads, submarines, and giant death robots ready to rock. Meanwhile, his religion was struggling, because he got a sortof bad start for the culture he chose. Civ 6 is all about getting a snowball rolling and then clearing the way for it to keep rolling as much as possible.
I started with Eleanor and Alexander was really close so I settled naturally pretty close to him and his capital converted before he could settle another city and he just lost lol. His animation played and I’m like “what happened your people kicked you out” hahahaha
This video makes me wonder something: does it really make sense to call them "old gods" if you're in the ancient era and no other religions have even formed yet?
I know I would obey a Cthulhu-worshipping world government. Especially if they had a bunch of weird relics, including a singing worm and shrieking flowers, on display in their government buildings for the public to view.
I hope they add Austria or Byzantium I know hungry/Germany and the ottomans/Macedonia/Greece kinda do their job but they were my favorite civs from 5 them and portrugul Sweden and America
Spiff I legit just came from watching one of your friends doing this. In fact I got the notification as I read the following “has anybody seen the spiffing Brit in the comment section, because this is his cup of tea”
I did this challenge yesterday as well. It's a very fun and unique way to play the game but does require some good setup with preferably a strong early religion which cripples you very badly if you are up against aggressive AI very close to you, as you don't really pop off until the medieval era or so. Also playing with the heroic ages mode makes this very easy as the AI will often just lose cities for not being in a heroic age and all you need to do is to simply exist and they will flip their loyalty to yours. To make this challenge more reasonable I also recommend doing it on a Pangea or any other non-islands map, because it just makes it easier to chain flip as enemy cities are all stacked up in the mid to late game. Otherwise you may have to actually invade the AI unless you find some kind of space to settle so you can begin to exert loyalty pressure which breaks the idea of non-military conquest. Mid to late game this is also very difficult as you may struggle to have your city sufficiently grow enough to the point you can build all the necessary districts (a minimum of an entertainment complex and a theater square for great works of art - voidsingers does help here as the obelisk holds 3 relic slots) and actually exert loyalty pressure back onto the enemy, as loyalty is determined by a) your population vs theirs and b) city happiness. Also don't do it on a too large a map. I did mine on huge and at some point I just had so many cities I couldn't be bothered to play anymore, because to micro each city was just too much work (I also won a culture victory way before I had managed to flip every city). You also don't have to recruit voidsingers to flip cities. It helps but as long as you got enough great works of art which can come from many sources now, including artifacts and corporations, you can exert a lot of loyalty pressure, especially if you play with the heroic age mode as well, where you can build entertainment complexes and run city projects alongside the heroic age card which adds loyalty pressure per citizen as long as you run city projects. You can cheese this a bit further with Amani's second promotion which exerts -2 loyalty on cities within 9 tiles as well. If you don't have secret societies or heroic age game mode, you can just build the Mont St. Michel wonder for a guaranteed religious artifact whenever an apostle dies. It's doable even on deity as it's a wonder the AI rarely goes for. Ideally you also want to get control of Kandy early on, as having suzerain of Kandy while in heavy exploration mode can net you quite a few extra free relics for simply exploring the map. I think in vanilla flipping cities is much more difficult at least on deity especially as deity AI cities grow to much larger populations, but it's probably doable if you can get Mont St. Michel and have a very strong faith engine where you combine religious spread with city flipping. I would probably go for feed the world and Gurdwara just so you can grow your pop as much as possible and make sure you get enough loyalty pressure from pop.
Cultist' s leader in his 90's ---- Accounting the fall of TYRE. At last TYRE has fallen to us. Never in my life, have I seen such loyalists. But At last TYRE has fallen. I still remember the parade on the streets as we made our way In to the newly built temple. It wasn't us who built it of course, rather the indisputable spread of our cult. By the time Our order reached TYRE, the Phoenicians were all already on our side; Temples were already built to honor our cult. Finally... DOMINATION ! . Our forefathers wouldn't have thought ; But It has always been the PURPOSE of our Order.
It seems to me that this strategy could be improved by getting the Reyna’s ability to buy districts. You could convert a city, move Reyna in, buy a theater square and it’s buildings, and boom you’re converting the next city. It would be expensive but if used correctly it could be situationally useful.
For some cities this would be good, but also reyna takes 5 turns to move. Which is slower than faith buying obelisks and moving a single great work in, which seems to be enough in most cases
Person: hey where you from
Person 2: England
Person: ah the country?
Person 2: no the cult
This comment makes sense regardless of whether you have watched the video or not.
@@vetren23 whatt?
CF1001 American cities are full of Marxist cultists
@@SumOneSomewhere last I checked England wasn't Marxist
Las Malvinas, England, Las Malvinas
Domination Victory; "A strong military is highly recommended"
"recommended" not "mandatory" ;)
Myriads you know what up
Suggestable now more than recommended
@@Ed-1749: Hmmm. I wonder just what would the keyword of recommended do in _Magic: the Gathering._
that can be taken two ways
The best thing to do with Eleanor is as soon as you have enough loyalty pressure going out towards a city to conquer it, you can easily just keep selling it back to its original owner in exchange for stuff. I did it for Great Works, it was hilarious. I emptied Kristine's library by constantly ransoming her own cities back to her.
"We're going to get a conquest victory without ever declaring war!!"
*accidentally wins with a culture victory halfway through the video*
He gets the culture victory around turn 260-ish but then the video cuts back to well before that in turns?
@@valr2guy I think he reloaded a save to try to avoid the culture victory.
@@taproot0619 Ah, that would make sense 🙃
Ah, I've done this many times
@@taproot0619 isn’t there also an option to just continue the game after you win?
This mad lad goes for a domination victory and gets a cultural one without even trying.
I always get cultural victory without trying, it's been a problem since civ 5, its just too easy to pick up incidentally. like I dont even build theater squares just monuments until uh I need to get places to put art like the other day I was playing maori on terra map, used the owls of minervas first two promotions and forgot about them made suzerainty of all the states on my continent, and then I was doing about 600 science and 600 culture around turn 250, we've got moonlandings allready happening across the board, and I install a card giving me 5% more total science per every suzerain you are, I didnt even know that card existed so I get 105% science 1368 per turn I'm almost entirely out of sciences, ai is keeping up, and two turns I dont remember building anything specific, my culture just spikes to 1600 ( got suzerainty of a city state which granted mad culture on all international trade routes or something like that) without me doing anything special. Potato Mcwhiskey got those kinds of numbers on a single city ehtiopia challenge the other day, broken AF, this game is off the chain this summer.
Cultural Victory often happens if you conquer without eliminating other Civs.
As a rule of thumb, you start progressing, if:
(Your Tourism/turn × Remaining other Civs)/(Starting number of Civs × Highest enemy culture/turn) > 2
By conquering cities in the midgame and leaving Civs with one city remaining, you can maximize this number without even trying.
@@WildFungus "I dont even build theater squares just monuments until uh I need to get places to put art." If you aren't building Theatre Squares, you won't be generating Great Artist points or earning any artists.
typical civ game, culture win by accident
Everyone: Cultural victories happened just by accident.
Me: My only victory in Civ 5 was a cultural victory that I built during the entire game.... I think I'll just go cry :p
The hardest part of this victory is that you might get a different victory.
Just turn off the other victories before the game begins in the settings,
@@raney150 yeah, sometimes I turn off all victories and turn limits just to have infinite fun
@@zarchivedscronch926 does that change the ai's behavior toward you?
@@RMCbreezy no, not at all
@@zarchivedscronch926 i usually take out the turn limit which is always fun but you would think if you took out victories they would have less stuff to strive for and hate you for
This is the most British description of world conquest that I've ever heard. "Oh, we would never, they just love us so much that they decided to join us!"
*_Showing results for: Alexander the Great_*
Dido: "You beat me at my own game..."
Eleanor of Aquitaine: "Don't flatter yourself. You were never even a player."
DANM! I like that XD
I won't put up my hands and surrender. There will be no white flag above my door.
I played the chime in my head while reading that
Yo Azula
@@Ciaolo
Her theme song was always creepy and cool to hear, that's for sure.
Sun Tzu says:
"To win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the pinnacle of excellence. The true pinnacle of excellence is to defeat your enemy *without having to fight.*"
Why do people keep quoting Sun Tzu? Just bc an yt made 3 videos using his quotes?
@@alex2005z No, because he wrote *the* definitive manual of military strategy.
A manual that is used *even to this day* by modern militaries.
@@ProfessorYana I know but the art of war quotes have increased by 10000% ever since the great potato war
@@alex2005z The what?
@@ProfessorYana an yt named technoblade made that video and on it he quote Sun Tzu. The guy is really popular so now a lot of people have been saying random things and saying that it's a quote from Sun Tzu as a joke.
Eleanor in front of everyone: smiling, laughing, playing nice
Eleanor after everyone’s gone: ÅĖĖŸÙĪÔ THĘ ĒÑD ČØMĘŠ
Don't you mean "Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"?
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morrokbyo I mean I typed some words and got 117 likes for a dumb joke, I think it’s a rather overrated one, but thanks for the compliment.
Spiff - "I'm instead going to take all of my cultists and go left"
Spiff - Goes right
Got to keep people on their toes.
I mean it’s left from the cultists point of view
NACO EightP well from my point of view the Jedi are evil
@@llab3903 well then you are lost!
if the you dont know which way you're going the enemy will never be able to ambush you
The most impressive part about this channel is I can't tell if he speaks as he's playing or does it after the fact because the audio edits are flawless when it's clear that he's had to edit gameplay much faster. Very impressive editing.
Very sure it's post-recording.
It's probably live, because you can sometimes hear him smashing keyboard keys.
@@NewbieFirst The least of his problem is to mix in keyboard noise in post. Of course the audio is done in post - the whole game play is sped up.
Probably a good mix of both
@@TH-cam_Stole_My_Handle_Too those are not keyboard noises, but mouseclicks, which conveniently always coincide with an action on screen. I would be surprised if he had gone that far just to “fool” the audience about something most just don’t even think about
31:13 See he is going to win a culture victory in 22 turns 29:05 wins a culture victory. I think there's a few clips in the wrong place spiff, either that or I've travelled through time
Ash The Dinosaur yeah he has loads of german cities earlier in the game then starts talking about starting to take german cities 10 minutes later
at 29:30 Ethiopia resurrects in the match
Honestly you never know with Spiff. Did he messed up the editing, or did he exploit the flow of time and bend it to his will in a way that violates the laws of physics as we know them? Both is equally possible
I think he loaded a previous save to try and remove the culture victory
just look at the turn number
Alternate title: "Make Lovecraft, Not War"
Minecraft cultists with dark ritual aspirations 💚
"Craft Love, Not War"
More like....."Wait, you have stuff? GIMME THAT!!! IT'S MINE!!"
Cthulhu Tea Gold™
lmao
23:52 When the new queen’s too busy making sacrifices to the elder gods to learn how to pronounce your city’s name.
The banana lords are watching.
Bimpson?? Is that you???
Spiff, next time, just disable all other victory conditions except Domination. Then you don't have to worry about accidentally winning a Culture victory!
And maybe get some more turns in the game because this stratagy takes a lot of time
The ai is aware of victory conditions, even ghandi will go for a domination victory if its the only option. With the focus being non military units he would be considered weak by the ai and be targeted first. He could make a straw man army to prevent the ai from attempting to attack, but domination civs like the aztecs will just attack shared borders. And the final civ will declare war when its the only ai remaining unless you make 30 turn peace treaty, which requires all you resources because they will only agree to starve you before attacking
@@SkullfaceTalks I usually turn off Religious win yet AI Russia in my games kept spamming apostles
@@l0remipsum991 because they will use faith for other purposes, the farther they spread it the more points for buying. It's not a smart move but I've seen it before
Whatsupp me guges
"So what kind of victory will we try this time?"
Spiff: "Yes."
Culture & Pacifist domination all in one game!? well i never
I made a Spiffing video :3
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He achieved a literal perfect victory by sun tzu standards
Sun Tzu: Win without the the battle.
Spiffing Brit: Yes
@@metal.gendalf I MADE THIS A YEAR AGO! I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THIS HAD 240 LIKES TILL I GOT THE NOTIFICATION! WHAT THE?????? PEOPLE READ THIS COMMENT?
@@skyhealing517 Yes.
@@skyhealing517make that 400
At that point civ developers create exploits just so that we get these vids
I hope that's the explanation
I don't really think this is an exploit its just an OP feature.
@@clayd4488 He's exploiting an op feature
It just works
@@ThomasOwOD to me "exploit" means something the devs didn't intend, this is completely intended. Sure it looks OP but everything in this newest pack is OP just gotta know how to take advantage of it.
@@clayd4488 There are lots of OP features and strategies in Civ 6, and the longer the game goes on, the more OP features are added. All the DLC civs are super powerful compared to most of the vanilla civs.
"All of your cities belong to me, my friend!"
*British Empire intensifies*
@Grillidan ahhhh, a connoiseur of memes from eons long forgotten
As all things should be :) world works better under british rule
What happened ?
Someone set up us the bomb !
We get signal !
When your ruler is a French woman.
Brits: Wait, it's all France?
Eleanor: *Always has been*
Whatsupp me guges
Just trying to imagine waking up in the morning, grabbing some Yorkshire Tea and looking out my window to find out the city I live in is surrounded by hooded figures shouting fiery sermons about Minecraft clones.
Wait. You are imagining it? It's happening now
That's the dark age tactics. Replace hooded figures with spambots and "totally not sponsored" digital content.
29:26 when you get launched back to the past 26 turns
It goes from turn 232 to 254 after PC crash, then back from 261 to 235. The timeline didn't survive editing.
Spiff's editting is perfectly balanced.
I was wondering how he could won cultural victory twice XD
I got so confused!!
I just wanna see a game of yogs civ where spiff just destroys everyone using his vast knowledge of bugs and exploits
@@thespiffingbrit Just say that you promise not to be a fisher man... After all, there are no exploits, everything is balanced like it should be.
@@thespiffingbrit You could be the last boss they all team up to defeat... just make sure to include a mandatory AI. For reasons.
@@thespiffingbrit it's not a bug, it's a feature
@@thespiffingbrit But that's eliminating one of the 4 X's in the perfectly balanced 4x strategy game
@@thespiffingbrit But this isn't an exploit.
22:25 when you're not absolutely gaming everything that's essentially how loyalty actually works, which is why the AI doesn't react to it. making your civ better makes them look like bad rulers in comparison to you, also you're using Eleanor's special perk to skip the on the fence step where they've left the previous civ but are still thinking about joining you, which essentially forces you to tank a second loyalty meter before it converts. If the other civ can stop you by shoring up their missing pieces, they might also go back. With Eleanor this isn't possible, they either have to start BEATING you at this game, not just evening it out, or go for conquest, but as you observed, and as its supposed to work as intended, the AI doesn't react to losing cities this way because it is supposed to be a natural occurrence.
They patched it... If you have cultist on your opponents land NOW they ask you to remove your troops and denounce you if you keep a cultist on their land... and getting their loyalty down to zero does NOTHING, you have to get the loyalty per turn to be below 0 after they patched it... Which is ridiculously hard and annoying. Do not recommend trying because it is literally impossible after they found out about this.
AI reacts to losing loyalty by putting governors and other stuff but they are probably confused and dont know how to stop it completely
Player would just atack eleanor or kill her early game but ai doesnt do such things..mostly
“Our forefathers didn’t want us to be brave, they wanted us to be British!”
You mean they wanted us to drink only Yorkshire tea
Are we even spineless anymore?!
Fun fact: There's a rock band promotion that means that each performance the city loses like 35 loyalty so one time I put 3 rock bands into a strong city from my science victory competitor and it completely screwed their science game
That's amazing, I gotta try that
Oh yeah you also need the policy card that lets you choose any rock band promotion. I think it’s a policy card but I’m not 100% sure
The hard part is that you need Cultural Hegemony for that card, which is a future era civic. Which means your culture output better be good if you want to make use of it quickly.
Also, the loyalty is reduced by 40, but not all cities have 3 performance avenues for your rock bands, so you might have to spread your rave over several turns.
This civic also provides you with a similar card for your spies, which can also aid in your peaceful conquest a bit.
But secret societies seems to make this strategy infinitely easier anyway.
Yeah In that game I was suzerain of nan madol and I had all my district on the coast cause Phoenicia so my culture output was over 1000
I have actually almost managed to pull that "exploit" off by an accident. I played the game as France, without knowing that Eleanor's perk (because I didn't read it, I just wanted to play as France in Europe map), I have eradicated 5 out of 7 AI's, had 6 AI capitals and had to hide all arts and governors deep in my lands to NOT win a pacifist conquest victory, since I wanted to win a Culture Victory for the first time.
But it was fun to have a entire Europe under my control, looked like Napoleon's or Austrian Aquarellist's dream.
But all while having super friendly relations with all nations I was devouring with the power of literature, paintings and music.
"What no you can't take our city by reducing our loyalty we're supposed to be immune to that!"
"Haha Cultists go brrrrr"
If you hear the brrrrrrrrr, the cultist wasn't chanting at you.
Just Finished my Yorkshire gold and seeing this made me pour another one!
I actually finished a cup of tea 5 minutes ago. Not Yorkshire, cuz it ain't available in my country, but hey, i'm in.
I'm sipping on my heathenistic bean water because I just got finished with a 14 hour shift.
Sorry Spiff
@@ryshow9118 cofee is just brown beans tea change my mind.
Yorkshire tea is life.
@@susaac9755 I'll roll with it 😂
City: *Exists*
Spiff: This will make a fine addition to my collection
New drinking game: Take a shot each time Spiff mispronounces a city name.
tried this game, now my liver quit. I need an exploit to fix this
he's English. They probably have a lot of cities that are not pronounced as it's spelled.
or he's just a tad bid dyslexic.
Fee-oh-no-shyan
@@maczoks852 My brain melts a little when he can't get Phoenician right...
Guess I'll die
"Welcome to London, famously built near a rainforest"
Well, there"s definitely rain in London. And it probably got a forest nearby, at one point of history :p
Isn't Epping Forest part of London. There is at least a tube stop there I think.
@@andrewmurphy5310 I don't know, I visited London only as a tourist :p
But probably, there's often forests in big cities (in Paris there is two forests, Boulogne and Fontainebleau ^^).
The forest sort of became the city. Where did you think they built the city out of back then. Then all burnt down in a great fire.
London indeed WAS surrounded by forest; they cut basically all of it down to build the city in the first place. Anything else was cut down some time later for whatever people needed wood for.
England's forests are famously shrinking, what with it being an isle and all that.
That's nuts. I love how the Voidsingers apparently have a master plan that starts in the stone age and doesn't reach its culmination until modern times.
Not sure how u tho k menalick is broken. I can’t get that guy to spawn on a map that isn’t totally flat
City name: Taruga.
Spiff: "Targua."
Civ name: Phoenicia.
Spiff: "Fee-oh-nosha."
Thank you!
???: Cthulhu.
Spiff: Yorkshire Tea.
City name: Tenochtitlan
Spiff: "tqhtpqh gjgqothqiubqlk"
Phoenecia, according to Spiff, is actually spelled Theonocia
City name: Texcoco
Spiff: Texacoco
City: *is spelled 'Tyre'*
Spiff: Tea-air
Me, an intellectual: Michelin
mmmm. tasty.
City: *is spelled 'Taruga'*
Spiff: tar-gua
@@Corwin256 😐
Civilisation: is spelled Phoenicia.
Spiff: Pheonocia!
If this strategy need a name I would recommend:
"The Great WOLOLO"
*Ahem*
"The Great WOLOLOVECRAFT".
As a proud owner of the original Age of Empires (and the box that it came in), I heartily approve.
Advisor: For a domination victory, a strong military is highly recommended.
Spiff: Hold my tea.
Is one unit of musketeers not strong enough for you?
He actually has a strong military, otherwise the AI would declare war.
Spiff would never let anyone hold his tea
Menelik - "i have the high ground spiff"
Spiff - "i have your cities"
19:29
"this is the strangest game mode I'll ever be doing"
a few month later: flood driven religious vampires
The Spiffing Brit: „I am winning by domination!“
Also The Spiffing Brit, probably won by culture 200 turns ago
Is it just me or is the editing messed up a bit, stuff isn't in chronological order.
yep
The game crashed, and he resumed from an earlier point
@@ferrousfox3265 after he won by culture victory, he went back in time
Norwayman I mean yeah that happened but his game also crashed
With the power of Yorkshire Gold one gains the ability of time travel because tea enhances human perception beyond regular limitations meaning you can see the ebb and flow of time as it twists into infinity and fades into oblivion and once you can see the door of infinity you too like Spiff can access time itself.
Also known as: "How to win a conquest game by making everyone simp for you using Cthulhu cults."
Culthulhu?
Talk about taking passive aggressiveness to a whole new level.
He also merged tea with lovecraft.
Some people: Tribal Village
Most people: Goody Hut
Spiff: Tribal Goody Hut
The Ottomans can be a similar problem to this challenge. As soon as they assign Ibrahim to Eleanor's capital, British occupied cities don't put any loyalty pressure onto any ottoman cities.
Same with carthage
Civs in Spiffs game: “In terms of loyalty, we have no loyalty”
Also the plot of POTC 2 and 3
Sebastian Irmscher “POTC”?
@@Ubersupersloth Pirates of the Carribean
Sebastian Irmscher Ah. Thanks.
“The kind of person who goes for a culture victory, I mean honestly”
-Spiff in a prior civ 6 vid
He wasn't intending too
Spiff, you didn't need to wait that long to get Tyre as cultists can do their thing after moving, so surrounding Tyre with two layers of cultists, draining the inner layer until they had one charge left and then hitting them with twelve cultists in a turn should have worked.
Petition to help The Spiffing Brit with his pronunciation of cities in Civ 6
Feenocea
@Enwurd Jogger The names are of real-world cities, not made-up... and I'm fairly sure the people who live or lived there believe they matter.
@Enwurd Jogger Holy shit dude
pedro kreutz we’re British we’ll just colonise then, then they’re not foreigners
@Enwurd Jogger bait of excellent quality
4:00 - I mean, it is perfectly matching the English language, London is near the forest, and it's damn raining
Spiff this is what We call in the work place being passive aggressive.
This sounds a lot like what Japan is doing with Anime.
Hint, hint: Japan used to be conquerors mostly conquering their own local lords back an forth, but occasionally Asia (especially China and Korea), too. Also they have an emperor they don't mention in anime because that's a no-no. And suddenly we only think of cute cartoons and girls in fancy fashion.
Well, I am naming my religions HENTAI so I think people love following it.
@@Katharina-rp7iq You talking about Oda Nobunaga?
You know too much.
Or Hollywood with cinema
"We need to found religion people can get behind!"
So...Denouncing Venice?
**The Boat Mormons Didn't Like That**
Yoloism has formed to fight this comment.
I vote to ban crabs.
@@Patrick_The_Pure I agree. I mean, why would you have crabs... When we could instead demand whales?
Screw you guys, I'm going to space.
I have done something similar! You can also put entertainement complex near your theater square to boost the theater square and then use the project bread and circuses to add some more pressure when needed. Oh and there are some rock bands that lower the loyalty by 40 which is ridiculous with Eleanor.
"London, famously built next to a rainforrest"
Well, atleast the "rain" part is correct
Also the forest part. And who knows, maybe in 4,000 BCE there _was_ a temperate rainforest along the Thames. xD
aaaaaaaaand time to call my friends for a perfectly balanced game of civ lmao
I wish i had friends to call. Mind lending me some?
@@Zbra1 Which city you at?
@Jeor Mormont Gothenburg Sweden. But I haven’t gotten around to by the frontier pass :/
@@thespiffingbrit they'll never know....
0:10 General Kenobi!
Well, another Civ 6. Interesting.
But we all are still waiting for REAL LIFE IS PERFECTLY BALANCED.
Yes.
The problem is that he cannot go to the nonexploitable save file... ???
He's not a hot young woman.
@@sld1776 he might be on other life save file.
I mean, he did a Steam exploit that could net you real money
"You can't just rule the world with crazy cult stuff"
Cultist with tentacles for fingers: "That's where you're wrong human child"
Earth: "Phonecia"
Spiff: "fe-oh-nozha"
He pronounces the number following two and something you don't pay for the same way. Why did you expect him to not butcher Phonecia?
@@darmocat Probably because th-fronting is a well-known feature of several English dialects, which cannot be said about mispronouncing Phoenicia.
Spiff: Fo Neee Cha. Fon Osha.
Me: Fen-ee-sha. Please!
The World: "War!"
Spiff: "Huh? - What is it good for?"
W: *gets consumed by Minecraft Clone cultists* "Absolutely nothing."
No, lets be honest. He has fused the power of the eldrich with the power of tea. He has brought to the world: *YORKSHIRE CTHULHU*
The world seems much less perturbed by this than normal Cthulhu, despite it actually being stronger.
SephirothRyu It’s the calming state they’re in because the water is 89% tea
28:50 Capturing German cities... 29:05 Culture win... 31:10 "We're probably actually going to win a culture victory in 22 turns"... 31:42 Going to have to start converting Germany
I think something happened, Spiff... Has the power of tea broken time again?
He partially reloaded the game after the culture win
“Goddammit, I broke the time space continuum again”-Spiff probably.
I was just coming to comment on this. I thought I was losing my mind for a second
@@pinquinsam4812 No he didn't. It's an editing mistake. Look at the top to see a real time clock that shows this.
@@RealSkoolmaster Yes, Yes, ones sanity is the price for using forbidden knowlege of the Old Ones...
Every time he pronounced Phoenecia as 'fee-oh-no-sha', I died a little inside
Unfortunately you’re still here IRL
American here, how is it pronounced? Asking for a friend.
@@logankrohn1472 foe-knee-sha
@@yeetskeet4657
Thank you, my tongue is basically lead.
He pronounced it as if it's a planet in Star Wars.😆
Even before the new DLC I had runs where I loyalty flipped 80% of a pangea map as Eleanor. Great Works + Amani + Bread and circuses project = the AI is screwed
When I play Eleanor I always name my religion All Shall Love Me And Despair
*PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT*
"Remember to be drinking your warm cups of tea! 🍵"
Milk is better
@@thespiffingbrit i drink coffee
history freek YOU MONSTER AHHHHH COFFEE
@@thescreemregular5168 MUUHAHAHAHA *laughs in evil*
@@historyfreek1926 WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
Next time, if you are aiming for a particular victory, like the domination one here, you can disable other victory types so you don't accidentally get a victory that you didn't want.
Also, I kinda want to try this now.
Culture victory with Eleanor was already a no-brainer before cultists. Now it's totally insane mode.
For the record, on Deity difficulty, you can get a legit military victory before culture victory with this strategy. Remember to not theme your museums, and never use policies or governor titles that boost tourism.
British Envoys: We demand you join our Empire!
Not British people: What if we say no?
British Envoys: If you do not... we will be forced to use our superior linguistic skills to convince you to join!
Not British people: Ha! I'd like to see that!
*10 minutes later*
Not British people: Want some tea?
Yes
If only that was how it actually went in real history………….
At first I was like "wasn't the no cities run pacifist by definition?" And then I saw "domination victory" and you had my attention.
Slapped the like button.
I'm waiting for my British citizenship to be brought by Eleonora herself.
Can't keep it for myself because I have a Slovak one already but I'll give it to a friend of mine.
He will be happy for sure and will immediately fly over to the UK and salute the queen.
You could have tried to surround Tyre with 1 charge cultists, since they disappear, then moved in with another wave in the same turn. Either way it worked.
B - Total Annihilation, for it is the greatest RTS ever made, and makes dyslexics cry!
37:37 and the sad thing about all of this is, even if he did NOT capture cities via loyalty flips this easily, he still has 23k faith, and a rifleman costs 200........ He could just insta-spawn a worldwide army to conquer the world traditionally.
This game..... It's as if one OP thing wasnt enough, it just hands you another for free on a silver platter xD
Being completely fair, when you do cheesy stuff like this, the snowball means victory is basically unavoidable. Had a game where i just went for a normal science run with Korea, not doing anything crazy and just using them as intended, while a buddy tried to do religion. By the 1500's I had thermonuclear warheads, submarines, and giant death robots ready to rock. Meanwhile, his religion was struggling, because he got a sortof bad start for the culture he chose. Civ 6 is all about getting a snowball rolling and then clearing the way for it to keep rolling as much as possible.
I started with Eleanor and Alexander was really close so I settled naturally pretty close to him and his capital converted before he could settle another city and he just lost lol. His animation played and I’m like “what happened your people kicked you out” hahahaha
Anyone else notice the odd cuts where he went to almost the Mapu civ dying with 1 civ then where he had like 5
Game crashes
England: "Now I will invoke these Tea related rebellions! No one in the world has ever thought of this!"
America: "Hey.."
I don't think the British plotted the Boston Tea Party in some weird act of reverse psychology.
Big Brother Xellos
That would be a third degree underwater game of chess if that were the case
Nobody:
The British Empire: Hippity hoppity this is now my property
This video makes me wonder something: does it really make sense to call them "old gods" if you're in the ancient era and no other religions have even formed yet?
They have lovecraftian inspirations so the idea is that these gods are older than humanity itself
@@EmissaryofWind so are most other gods by default.
@@dank_smirk2ndchannel200 but to worship is not. where as with most lovecraftian gods other beings worshiped them before us.
Creating voluntary world empire by giving your faith into the elder gods. Sounds about right.
I know I would obey a Cthulhu-worshipping world government. Especially if they had a bunch of weird relics, including a singing worm and shrieking flowers, on display in their government buildings for the public to view.
@@shadow_of_thoth I wouldn't. :D
Why vote for the lesser evil?
30:00 "hamburger (germany) will now be London"
outofshadows ytdocumentary
Of course Spiff would find a way to conquer everything as England without much fuss.
Civ: The new secret societies are supposed to be minor bonuses that helps move towards different victories.
Spiff: Haha Cultist spam go Brrrrrrrrrrrrr
to be fair, the devs said that they were supposed to be game defining abilities.
Yeah, they literally said Secret Societies were meant to be on par with a civilization's abilities, not 'minor bonuses'.
If they were supposed to be minor bonuses, they would have been in the main game, not in a separate game mode :p
I hope they add Austria or Byzantium I know hungry/Germany and the ottomans/Macedonia/Greece kinda do their job but they were my favorite civs from 5 them and portrugul Sweden and America
@@georgecant-stand-yeh5451 Well, there was Germany, Ottomans and Greece in Civ 5 ^^
"Why are cultists so cheap in Addis Ababa?"
Because that's where the kryptonite meteor landed.
i feel like despite the parameters being set as "no war, no conflict, no weapons", this is still chillingly sinister...
the cities of other nations/the other nations:
"i have fallen, and cant get up!"
Pretty thankful to TH-cam that recommended me this channel. I'm not English myself but your accent makes it perfect to understand and have fun ❤️
4:29 "Now there are many ways to get secret societies, and each one is triggered by different memes."
Spiff I legit just came from watching one of your friends doing this. In fact I got the notification as I read the following “has anybody seen the spiffing Brit in the comment section, because this is his cup of tea”
Also I was 1,530th to watch this video... lol
Phrasing.
Um, EVERY cup of tea is Spiff's cup of tea...
@Lucius Fawkes especially... he's in your house, right now... That's why I drink coffee!
@@wailshark hehe
I'm confused. You took Berlin, then like 10 mins later started taking german cities, but Berlin was back to them. Did it flip back?
he accidentally got a culture victory so i think he went back idk for sure tho
Editing out of order.
probably an editing mistake
Game crashed maybe his save was earlier in the game?
Robitus Scyth Had to have been, the crash.
"Pacifist conquest"
Most people would think that means Cultural or Diplomatic!
Turns out, it did!
Spiff's videos in a nutshell: "They said it couldn't be done"
I did this challenge yesterday as well. It's a very fun and unique way to play the game but does require some good setup with preferably a strong early religion which cripples you very badly if you are up against aggressive AI very close to you, as you don't really pop off until the medieval era or so. Also playing with the heroic ages mode makes this very easy as the AI will often just lose cities for not being in a heroic age and all you need to do is to simply exist and they will flip their loyalty to yours.
To make this challenge more reasonable I also recommend doing it on a Pangea or any other non-islands map, because it just makes it easier to chain flip as enemy cities are all stacked up in the mid to late game. Otherwise you may have to actually invade the AI unless you find some kind of space to settle so you can begin to exert loyalty pressure which breaks the idea of non-military conquest. Mid to late game this is also very difficult as you may struggle to have your city sufficiently grow enough to the point you can build all the necessary districts (a minimum of an entertainment complex and a theater square for great works of art - voidsingers does help here as the obelisk holds 3 relic slots) and actually exert loyalty pressure back onto the enemy, as loyalty is determined by a) your population vs theirs and b) city happiness.
Also don't do it on a too large a map. I did mine on huge and at some point I just had so many cities I couldn't be bothered to play anymore, because to micro each city was just too much work (I also won a culture victory way before I had managed to flip every city). You also don't have to recruit voidsingers to flip cities. It helps but as long as you got enough great works of art which can come from many sources now, including artifacts and corporations, you can exert a lot of loyalty pressure, especially if you play with the heroic age mode as well, where you can build entertainment complexes and run city projects alongside the heroic age card which adds loyalty pressure per citizen as long as you run city projects. You can cheese this a bit further with Amani's second promotion which exerts -2 loyalty on cities within 9 tiles as well.
If you don't have secret societies or heroic age game mode, you can just build the Mont St. Michel wonder for a guaranteed religious artifact whenever an apostle dies. It's doable even on deity as it's a wonder the AI rarely goes for. Ideally you also want to get control of Kandy early on, as having suzerain of Kandy while in heavy exploration mode can net you quite a few extra free relics for simply exploring the map.
I think in vanilla flipping cities is much more difficult at least on deity especially as deity AI cities grow to much larger populations, but it's probably doable if you can get Mont St. Michel and have a very strong faith engine where you combine religious spread with city flipping. I would probably go for feed the world and Gurdwara just so you can grow your pop as much as possible and make sure you get enough loyalty pressure from pop.
B- Total Annihilation was the 1st video game I ever played and I'm curious how you would totally and utterly destroy its balance.
Cultist' s leader in his 90's ---- Accounting the fall of TYRE.
At last TYRE has fallen to us. Never in my life, have I seen such loyalists. But At last TYRE has fallen. I still remember the parade on the streets as we made our way In to the newly built temple. It wasn't us who built it of course, rather the indisputable spread of our cult. By the time Our order reached TYRE, the Phoenicians were all already on our side; Temples were already built to honor our cult. Finally... DOMINATION ! . Our forefathers wouldn't have thought ; But It has always been the PURPOSE of our Order.
brings a new meaning to passive aggressive
Spiff: Send in the next wave of cultists!
Me: Happy Word Bearer noises...
I see that you too are a man of culture
It seems to me that this strategy could be improved by getting the Reyna’s ability to buy districts. You could convert a city, move Reyna in, buy a theater square and it’s buildings, and boom you’re converting the next city. It would be expensive but if used correctly it could be situationally useful.
For some cities this would be good, but also reyna takes 5 turns to move. Which is slower than faith buying obelisks and moving a single great work in, which seems to be enough in most cases
I didn’t even know you could move great works like that between cities. You learn something new every day