It's very impressive and interesting but as I understand it he's laying out a complete programme for the future of music for generations to come, yet he himself continued to produce highly structured pieces. In Lecture no 6 he's singing the praises of a Japanese culture that has repeated the same gestures for centuries. I'm not saying this in hostility. It seems to be much to do with our present condition that we are torn between extremes of free intuition and rational structure, the initial passage of Schoenberg from atonal to serial being a sort of paradigm. In fact as he describes it this intuitive music is in itself extremely disciplined.
I dont get it. Isnt he just talking about being "In the Zone"? while Improvising, It doesnt need hours and hours of mysterious talk. Its just about the same as driving home while preoccupied about something else and then realizing you dont remember driving home. Or some other skill besides practiced auto driving. Most of it is just muscle memory added reacting in real time to varations of a musical sounding idea over a rythm and a pre existing understanding of music theory enough to improvise some musical sounding interval over a chord.
"Most of it is just muscle memory added reacting in real time to variations of a musical sounding idea over a rhythm and a pre existing understanding of music theory enough to improvise some musical sounding interval over a chord." You are barely scratching the surface with this statement. Stockhausen's approach to music, according to what he says here, goes much much much further beyond the regular understanding of it and how it is understood and studied by the majority of people. It is about freeing the self from all the things you mentioned and truly serving music in a manner that could possibly be non-musical for the perception of people who have not yet reached this experiential level. The environment is the music, the mind, the universe. Tonality and harmony are not present, but it rather is about the raw and pure expression of something deeper. That is the point and beauty of Intuitive Music, freedom from any limiting elements and structures.
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The master stockhausen found the purity of no mind
It's very impressive and interesting but as I understand it he's laying out a complete programme for the future of music for generations to come, yet he himself continued to produce highly structured pieces. In Lecture no 6 he's singing the praises of a Japanese culture that has repeated the same gestures for centuries. I'm not saying this in hostility. It seems to be much to do with our present condition that we are torn between extremes of free intuition and rational structure, the initial passage of Schoenberg from atonal to serial being a sort of paradigm. In fact as he describes it this intuitive music is in itself extremely disciplined.
I dont get it. Isnt he just talking about being "In the Zone"? while Improvising, It doesnt need hours and hours of mysterious talk. Its just about the same as driving home while preoccupied about something else and then realizing you dont remember driving home. Or some other skill besides practiced auto driving. Most of it is just muscle memory added reacting in real time to varations of a musical sounding idea over a rythm and a pre existing understanding of music theory enough to improvise some musical sounding interval over a chord.
"Most of it is just muscle memory added reacting in real time to variations of a musical sounding idea over a rhythm and a pre existing understanding of music theory enough to improvise some musical sounding interval over a chord."
You are barely scratching the surface with this statement. Stockhausen's approach to music, according to what he says here, goes much much much further beyond the regular understanding of it and how it is understood and studied by the majority of people. It is about freeing the self from all the things you mentioned and truly serving music in a manner that could possibly be non-musical for the perception of people who have not yet reached this experiential level.
The environment is the music, the mind, the universe. Tonality and harmony are not present, but it rather is about the raw and pure expression of something deeper. That is the point and beauty of Intuitive Music, freedom from any limiting elements and structures.