yep....truly nothing is taught about them...only MAYBE if u take a specifically scottish or irish history class...im in scottish history right now and we barely talk about this group..maybe once or twice someone mentioned them....idk....i think people dont want us to remember our values and fighting spirit backbone
@@dickvarga6908 In today's world I could give you a group but time before me all people worked our starved to death... In today's America I'm ashamed of some people because of such garbage in their brain, and nothing but excuses as why this or that, its utterly sickening...And having a mentally inept person as a so-called leader is joke...I'm quite sure if it China or Russia was going to attack they would by now. But I'm quite sure the joint Chiefs of staff have already let it be known an incapacitated President still will not stop a full retaliation strike back if we are attacked...
Proud to identify as Ulster Scots. Direct ancestor came in before the “Presbyterian Rebellion,” settling in Pennsylvania, moved west,generation after generation. Thank you for this informative video.
There's no such thing as "Scots-Irish" or "Ulster Scots". Your forebears may have been ethnically cleansed so the Scottish lowlands were more profitable for the big landowners but you are just Irish after centuries of your people living there. The "Scots" thing is sectarian bullshit pushed and encouraged by the English to divide and rule Ireland.
Ulster Scot myself, and born and raised in North Carolina. My great Grandfather came to the US to NY as a child with his parents and 8 siblings from Ireland. I’m extremely proud of my Heritage, my family, and our Culture.
Me too 👍 I'm Ulster Scot born and raised on a farm in NC . My ancestors were from Pennsylvania and came to NC on the great wagon Rd. I grew up in the house my great grandfather built in 1870 and attend the same Presbyterian church that he had 100yrs previous
@Music Mick Yes, its an invention: these people called themselves Irish - and Washingtons Army celebrated St Patricks Day!.... The Americans actually hated the Scotch - called them savages - and Thomas Jefferson wanted to exclude them from the Declaration of Independence!....
@@bundeswehr7676 why don't you Irish go and mind your own business you took the United Irish men from us Liberal Presbyterians and turned it Sectarian,you won't take this from us,you Sinn feiner.
to C Petersen: I am from Scottish/Irish descent. My maiden name is Scott. I too came here to maybe find out more about my heritage being that all my elder folk were gone before I was even born. I do know that my Scott side of the family were folk from W. Virginia, but that is about it....guess I'll have to go elsewhere to really learn something...LOL Wish someone in the family had had the forethought to write some stuff down for we girls. Oh well. Good luck to you! : )
That is rough. Try reading Born Fighting: How the Scotts-Irish Shaped America by James Webb. A lot of folks in this ethnic group are real hard asses, not particularly sentimental and helpful. They tend to be militaristic, somewhat agrarian, and often musical. I am descended from the border Bells through my maternal grandmother. You can email me as jebediah456@yahoo.com.
I'm a descendant of the Scots-Irish....used to think just Irish but I guess my line runs back to the Scottish nobility with a bunch of Dukes, Barons, and such...still tracing my roots but it's been amazing so far!
I`m Scottish/Irish... there were thousands of people from all over Ireland who emigrated to Scotland over the centuries so when you talk about Scot`s/Irish remember they didn`t all emigrate to America from Ireland.
So out of the over 22000 who watch this video all people can do is call each other names and yet think they are scholars. Come on people step back and take a breath. Drop the hate of Americans for a while and enjoy learning. Some things may not be accurate but there is no need for the vitriol comments.
Racist, arrogant, and violent??? Like every other ethnic group's history, you mean? Your own comment shows a very narrow minded, arrogant, and condescending tone, typical of a "racist" attitude.
It's sad you're annoyed by it. My ancestors are Presbyterians originally from Perth and Stirling but filtered through County Armagh, and we're Scotch-Irish because that term distinguishes us from the Scots who stayed in Ulster; and because it is a label found nowhere else in the world, it marks us as an American ethnic group. Derry and the Boyne are all very fine, but our battles were here in North America.
Davy Crockett's family may have lived in a Scots-Irish area, but he was actually of French Huguenot ancestry with his original last name being anglicised from Crocketague (there atre different spellings as well).
Davy croketts family have no scottish ancestry at all nor was Davy crockket scots irish , he was simply irish as he states in his own writing , his ancestors were french hugueonots who migrated to ireland arrving at the port in cork .
I have found what you say to be true. I have traced back all of my family to either Northern Germany, Northern France, Scotland, Ulster, and Sweden. The common-thread being Protestantism. And more interestingly, if you look at haplotype map of Europe and you can easily tell that religion ran on tribal lines. People are so secular these days they forget why they are here. We are escaping the hordes of agrarian invaders, the story goes back to pre-Roman Thrace. The agrarian invaders tend to be collectivist. The hunter-gatherer types are independent. This also shows up today in our attitudes about Brexit, etc. Bonns and Boones are also of that stock. But he will have real royal blood before the dragons took over. You don't want to be related to these inbreed psychopathic satanic serpents, their bloodline is from Cain, Attila the Hun, Tut, Dracula etc, they create 'Sodoms and Gomorrahs' where ever they tread.
His family was from Co Antrim the huguenot's were french protestant moved to ireland after the french inquisition also went to Holland and came to fight at the battle of the boyne with king William the 3rd
I'm Scottish born and lived in Lowland Scotland from Northern Irish great grand parents which means im "Irish Scots". The dialect in Lowland Scotland and Ulster is very similar to Appalachian.The same phrases and words spoken. So interesting.
Border Scots who were too troublesome for the Scots & English crowns so they were deported to Ulster to colonize the predominantly Roman Catholic Irish. Some are still there: Ian Paisley was one, by religion, name and attitude toward the RC Irish. Jackson, Wilson, Nixon, Johnson, check their family trees. The Steel Bonnets is a good history of them up to the early 1600's.
They pissed of England, as well, because they kept moving into American-frontier territory that was offlimits; the English had made treaties with the Indian tribes, and the Scots-Irish kept breaking the treaties (especially going into Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee).
Lots of bigoted ignorant people on here making sweeping generalizations about a whole group of people they know nothing about . Just driven by hatred and bigotry.
When making statements such as the Irish are actually German, French, etc... You must be careful not to confuse nationalities with genetic origins. It has become much more important to unlocking who we all really are to look at genetic mutation in y-haplogroups rather than national/ethno-linguistic/tribal identities. The dominant 'gene pool' in Turkey, for example, is not Central Asian at all but rather Greek which would infer that the vast majority of Turks are of Greek stock.
Distrusting all forms of government and religious Authority but developing of a greater reliance for family through shared heritage is one of the most American things I've ever heard of.
This is all ancient history folks! Ok we all want to know our ancestry, but whether it`s Ireland, Scotland, Wales or England does it matter today? England could never have had an empire if not for the Irish, Scottish and Welsh they were the frontline soldiers of the English army, still are today. Religion didn`t come into it until after the English civil war, and it`s the poor who were transported with the promise of free land, it happened in all of the new world at the time first America and later Australia so called criminals and the poor. But if you go even further back when the Irish were raiding southern England and Wales and bringing slaves back to Ireland, which is where Saint Patrick the patron saint of Ireland supposedly comes from, begs the question who invaded who first? What we should remember whether we are English, Irish Welsh or Scottish is that we have a rich and colourful history, we are seperated from mainland Europe by the seas, but we have the influence of the Celts, Romans, Normans and the Vikings in our cultures, we only passed that on to the new worlds
+peter falvey Yes it does matter today, at least to the folks England oppressed.. The English always put those they oppressed in the front lines.. They were less important than Englishmen.. My son (about 14/16 Irish) has a friend Who's an Irish-Catholic immigrant.. She is so bitter that she will not have an Irish protestant in her house.. All cultures have kept slaves, including the English.. The nobility were the only free men.. The Irish and Highland Scots share a culture.. England and Wales have their own individually.. The Romans did not make it to Ireland..
It matters to me too. I still can't stand the English especially their heirarchical formal ways, their heartlessness, exploitativeness, and exclusiveness and extreme snobbishness.
@@geoffreyharris5682Your comment is very old but describes the upper and ruling classes of England, and most other nationsin general. The ordinary English citizens do not share those values and certainly not the working classes, who were also exploited. We hate the class system in this country too. And of course many English people if not the majority have Scottish and Irish heritage and vice versa. Like Americans claim to have.
@Reginastar28 No, the Portugese brought them to Brazil. They were enslaved in Africa by other Africans. Usually there was tribal warfare in Africa and the winner of the war would bring the conquered people to the sea ports to sell them to the Portugese. But the Portugese never went into Africa to enslave anybody, they just bought them at the ports and they were already in chains. The Portugese never left the ship.
Low-land Protestant Scots were given land stolen from the Catholic Irish by the English. Then they went to "America" and took Indian land. The video didn't describe their attitude to the Irish or the Indians. (The low-land Scots are not necessarily the same as the Island and Highland Scots.)
Yes I am well aware they are called Ulster Scots in Ireland, being one myself. That is how the Americans identify them in America so that is fine, it's all semantics - they are Scots whom lived in Ireland. I am Ulster Scots and where was I born - oh thats right I was born in Ireland! Read up on your history Calengela - the Ulster Scots Lagganeer army raised in Ulster fought against Cromell's army in 1649. History is not black and white like some would have it painted now.
Ulster Scots ancestry myself. You missed one path westward from Winchester, Va through northern West Virginia through the corner of Western Maryland and back into West Virginia ending at about the intersection of the Cheat River and the Pennsylvania border. Your folklorist is pushing an out dated view. The route I described facilitated an early industrial cattle operation extending from Winchester, Va over the mountains and down the river system to the Scioto River Valley.
Ulster is the "9-County" North province of 32-County Ireland. During the Irish War of Independence, the Provence of Ulster was partitioned with a "Sectarian Border" with 3-Counties of Ulster becoming part of the Republic of Ireland and 6-Counties of Ulster remaining an English Colony.
The Scots derive their name from an Irish tribe called the Scotti. Calling someone Scotch-Irish is like calling someone Liverpudlian-English. The Scots and Irish are the one people, we are a Celtic peoples.
We are, but we speak in different Celtic tongue . In the time when the Scots Irish went to the colony's it was the English who penned the name Scots Irish .
@@harry9392 :; Ireland had 4 versions of Gaelic Language one for each province, Munster Gaelic (South) Leinster Gaelic (East) Ulster Gaelic (north) and Connaught Gaelic "(West)
Aye but that didn't happen as far as mass ROMAN CATHOLIC Irish immigration into Scotland was concerned until the mid nineteenth century and the two men you have quoted were descendants of this migration into Scotland.This film is about the migration into Ulster by us Scots which it could be argued were simply going home and after onto America.
I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED MUSIC WHEN I WAS A CHILD & ON I LOVE THE MUSIC OF SCOTCH - IRISH I LOVE THE BANJO & FITLE PLAYING & OLD BLUE GRASS MUSIC OF COURSE I LOVE SOFT ROCK MUSIC BUT REALLY I LOVE ALL MUSIC ! I AM PRODE OF MY SCOTCH -IRESH ANSESTREY & OF COURSE GERMAN. BUT I FILL MORE SCOTCH -IRESH I LOVE THE COLOR GREEN IS MY FAVORITE COLOR SO THAT'S GOT SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT. I AM PROUD OF THAT. 🙂
Ok take the Catholic out and you have another religion with Ulster Wcot. I would hate to see a religious war here as well as Belfast. so I'm Scot/Irish you are Ulster Scot. Well done
Interesting video on the Scottish-Irish people of the Americas. The comments below are pretty extreme though. There really is little difference between Irish and Scottish people and Scotch-Irish, all are mixed Gaelic/Pictoceltic with Nordic-Norman-English influence. The Scots-Irish were poor people from towns in Scotland, whose ancestors had changed to English earlier, who had lost their tribal ties - similarly to some townlands of Mexico where people are mostly native but think of their ancestry as Spanish - but the Scots Irish had absorbed various a different religious culture and were granted land in the free areas of Ireland to defend the new status quo - this was the strategy to keep Scotland subdued, and it worked for centuries. The plantations didn't work very well, and life was harsh for everyone. I believe that nowadays all 9 counties of Ulster are populated mostly from the Irish tradition, with the exception of just Belfast. However, people aren't very religious any more. As one poster pointed out - the Irish look ape-like, and I would say that yes of course we do, all the Irish, Scottish, Scots-Irish and all other nationalities have strong ape-like characteristics, since we all descend from a common ape-like ancestor.
Actually on re-reading my last comment sounds weird - so let me phrase it better. All humans share a common ancestor with apes. This was because of a few racially based comments posted against Irish people. So, let the terrorists call us whatever they want or discriminate against us as much as they wish. Who cares? All humans are primates. However, we are the englightened ones, and the racists are the bottom of the human barrell.
+Robin Conkel-hAnnan Thanks for pointing that out - what I mean to say was that, the Irish nobles and their clans (all the local people) were driven out, and the land was freed for settlement. It was then offered to the English/Scottish settlers who were brought in specifically to plant an anti-catholic population. The natives were allowed, after a while, to rent some of their own family's land back at a high price. Thanks for spotting that typo Robin..
emmo Yep, that's what it was.. The English wanted to get rid of all of the Irish so they could have Ireland for themselves.. Even before there was a religious problem.. Then Cromwell subdued Ireland, shipped men, women and children into slavery in SA and the West Indies.. The English have not been nice people..
the scotti were an irish tribe. they tired of viking incursions from northern britain. so they invaded, took over the place and became the scots. although kin to the irish, a far different history, both versus the english and the church.
Can someone please explain what would have brought Scotts here in 1623? Because my 9th great grandpa was in Connecticut by then. And my DNA has been sequenced proving he was full blooded Scottish.
From the comments below there is as much animosity now as ever...I think I'll just settle for being an American. It's obvious to me that there is an element of humanity that thrives on hate, revenge, dominance, and humiliation. I don't see humankind surviving this way for another 100 yrs.
I'm very proud of our boys in Northern Island and south Cork my family is from If you don't live in Ireland not right to comment too much over religion I feel like many that should be left to the people involved and live there north or south If you want to see proud hard people go there
these statements i read here are just like the division here in Ireland now. I am of French Huguenot extraction, born in Belfast 1950 suffered the same poverty as anybody else but made to feel my ancestors were the oppressors. It's all to do with romantic thoughts on history. But most of the discussion i found funny.
Fair point. I’m sure non of your ancestors oppressed anyone, and identity politics is a dangerous game to play. But there were documented laws that discriminated against the catholic population. Long before your date of birth. More I think about it the French are pretty pathetic at wars so you’ve definitely nothing to feel guilty about.
@@garyodriscoll7988 The Presbyterians were also persecuted, i would suggest you read about the United Irish men. But I have a feeling no matter what was put in front of you would object to it. Gary live in my shoes.
@@pammercer6745 I know the Presbyterians were also oppressed, why do you think they jumped at the chance to Fight the English when they arrived in America. I think George Washington is quoted as saying they were the best soldiers he had ever seen. Just because I slagged the French you think I cant critically think? or can't comprehend facts? lol Here's one for you. Ireland was a bunch of Kingdoms, we were not a country that was united when the plantation were being done to us. I basically think it was our fault we were invaded. I know the numbers were against us in terms of soldiers, but we had home advantage and were fighting paid soldiers, that should kinda even out the numerical advantage? what you think?. "Live in your shoes?" What do you mean?
@@garyodriscoll7988 The Irish had a High king when they were invaded. George Washington was talking about the IRISH when he said that - don't fall for the propaganda. There were half a million IRISH in America at that time. The Irish were oppressed all over Ireland - fled to America. DNA proves that the "Scots Irish" were actually Irish.
@@johnpatrick5307 My confusion is...What do you mean by Irish? My understanding is that "Scots Irish/Ulster Irish", were names given to those groups of people by Americans when the landed. They, themselves didn't refer to themselves as being Irish. Were the Half a million "Irish" in America at the time Catholic Irish? as in Real Irish? Or were they protestants from England/Scotland, who stayed maybe a generation in Ireland and then Immigrated to America. Again they didn't consider themselves Irish. I thought the majority of Catholic Irish didn't go until the famine time?
Respectfully, I disagree. I'm 3rd generation Appalachian [app-uh-LATCH-in] My heritage is a proud mix of Scottish, Irish, and Cherokee - Echota [E-co-ta] band of Northeast Alabama. I'm grateful to all 3 groups for fighting to settle and remain here; learning to live together as Americans and making my life possible. If you'd ever been called a 'hick', 'white trash', 'racist redneck', or 'inbred hillbilly' [all demeaning hate-fueled terms], you might find them more annoying than 'Scots-Irish'.
My family history says our Clan of that ilk were supposed to land to the North but the British themselves occupied the homes and lands displaced to what was later named Pennsylvania by a committee which the Dunlaps attended the naming ceremony. The Scottish rights were accredited with starting the rebellion possibly influenced by the Magna Carta. The clan system stopped the Roman advance into Scotland's past. Two walls such was their fear of what was to be known as berserkers
@Richard Rich....The country of Ireland Is not Loyal to the UK but the province of Northern Ireland Is as It`s part of the UK...It`s the same as Gibraltar... that`s In Spain but It`s a Province Of the UK.
@@cf3443 The 6-North East Counties of 30-County Ireland are still an English Colony, Part of the First English Colony and they push Sectarian Buttons for a Nostalgic Grip on the past when a Dutch Protestant King Billy defeated the English Catholic King at the Battle of The Boyne. "King William of Orange" was a Dutch Man. Not a Saxon or Scot.
@@johnpatrick5307 Your fake ignorance astounds me. You must be a "Plastic Paddy"!!! Irish are also Normans, Vikings etc and from many older English plantations across the whole of Ireland. Indeed, Dublin was populated by people from Bristol... "Wild Irish" were not allowed in the city! The east coast of Ireland is probably more Anglo Saxon than parts of England. You really have a lot to learn! There was even a plantation from "New England" to the Cork area!!
@Reginastar28 Wrong. Slave trade was Portugese, not Spanish. And the Africans were already slaves in Africa, sold to the Portugese by other Africans. The Portugese merely bought them, they did not enslave them.
@Hafnia I'm from and live in dundalk. Don't tell me about a part of Erie I know better that you ever will. Don't assume before you write, it makes you look like a complete moron.
But there was an Ulster. My grandfather always referred to himself as an Ulsterman, and British. He was never from Northern Ireland or England. His parents were murdered by Sinn Fein in 1918 so he and his brothers left the old country - three to Kentucky and two to New Zealand.
Gary O'Driscoll thanks for making contact. My father told me that every Christmas Eve my grandad would walk along to the local Catholic Church (St Mary’s here in Hastings, New Zealand) and have fellowship with all the Irish folk there. They would have a great time. My Dad said it was the only time he would see his father come home late, a little under the weather. He had a very broad Irish accent. Well, I am impressed that none of those early migrants to New Zealand brought any religious animosity with them. Certainly, contrary to what Rev. Paisley said, I don’t think the prejudice ran very deep.
@@PiperStart agreed - The powers that be made us look across at each other.. instead of looking up to see who was pulling the strings. If you have a quiet time to spare, listen to this song, listen to the words. Powerful. th-cam.com/video/411hNIdHWx0/w-d-xo.html
@@PiperStart Ireland had a very long and rough time... Its never been at peace... The greedy hand of England been the worse of its trouble... Its only now there's a chance for real peace... Our country will b as one... When the time is right.....
SCOTS-IRISH. Not Scotch-Irish. Scotch is a drink, not a nationality. LOL! My grandfather drilled that into my head when I was little. He was a Scot and he drank Scotch. This documentary has that wrong.
Like every other historical account of the Scots-Irish you have completely left out the SPOWs sent to New England in 1651-1652. Their frontier was Maine.
Its all about the right political decision for the right scenario. The acts enabling religious persecution of Presbyterians in Ireland were eventually repealed and the Scot's Irish saw alliance with the crown as safer than alliance with the natives.Although in 1798 the Scot's Irish were involved in a rebellion against the crown. Its all politics e.g. the Irish who had previously rebelled against the crown fought for the Stewart kings in the 1600s.Scots Irish and the Irish fought Cromwell 1649.
When I hear "Scotch"-Irish, it makes my ears bleed. Scotch is a drink. These people were Scots-Irish. And I guess it bears repeating, they weren't Irish. They were Scottish Protestants in Ireland.
First Class Protestants were the Church of England and the Plantation of Ulster with Scots Farmers and Laborers had to be non-catholic but Presbyterians were treated as 2nd class protestants. The best lands that were confiscated by the English Crown from the Irish Catholic Landomners went to North English Nobles.
Scott - Irish and Native American here. Descendant of the Lindsay, Ross, Stewart and Rose line. The Indian.. we know it's tgere. My great great grandmother was half or full.. but we do not know what tribe. I've been unable to dig up any info.
We do know for certain that some American historians of the late 19th Century invented the label "Scotch Irish", they created the term for anyone who was Irish or known of Ireland but not of the recent poor and often diseased famine Irish. What we don't generally know is how these historians could have possibly made such connections and conclusions relying only on evidence! They could not have actually studied or attempted a study of the historical resources of the time period or earlier periods - more commonly known as the study of history. Because contrary to the simple tales from these 19th century American historians (who were clearly looking to separate past Irish emigrants, with the newer hungry poor masses of more recent Irish). We know many if not most of the Irish in America before the 'famine' Irish were still Irish, few to none earlier labelled themselves as scots Irish or any other such nonsense.
There were no political entities such as scotland or Ireland 10,000 tears ago,a wandering people from central europe migrated through germany,france,england,scotland,and then to ireland(all modern entities).So by unionist reasoning if all Irish are scots,then all scots are english,all french are german and so on.It was the political and religous climate of the last 600 years that has most influenced who we are today.Ulster scots dialect is a recent invention.
Whiskey = Irish Bagpipes older in Ireland Tartan Kilt not Irish or Scottish. invented by Victorians Hanoverians. Scot means Irish in Latin. Those are only recorded historical facts mind. Don't let such trivialities get in the way of inherited bias.
@Wandering Swordsman lol. Clan McCutcheon (from Hutcheon, French). Clatchen also Cutcheon. Any history on them? I was told this clan is from central western Scotland. My father's father's father was of these, name Grrrrahn-pa Joey McCutcheon. ☺
Some good, a little bad. Read James Webb's "Born Fighting," for a more thorough treatment of the group. God forbid that we ever produce another Woodrow Wilson, but a couple of Andy Jacksons would be useful.
I think it's time to drop the "Irish" part and just call them Scottish Americans, since they are not Irish, but rather Scottish. In Northern Ireland, they call themselves Ulster Scots, not Scots-Irish, which is an American invention.
I should add that Scots and the Ulster scots dialect have offical status."But it has been claimed that the recent "Ulster-Scots language and heritage cause has been set rolling only out of a sense of cultural rivalry among some Protestants and unionists, keen to counter-balance the onward march of the Irish language movement".If Scotinulster contends that there is no truth in the preceding satement,I will respect his position.
ja jane You are incorrect with all due respect. It's proper to pronounce it Scots-Irish or Scotch Irish. In North Carolina in Scotland county :), there is a club called the Scotch-Irish society. Scotch [skoch] adjective 1. (used outside of Scotland) of Scottish origin; resembling or regarded ascharacteristic of Scotland or the Scottish people: Scotch plaid. 2. Sometimes Offensive. of or relating to Scotland or its inhabitants;Scottish. 3. (usually lowercase) Informal. frugal; provident; thrifty.noun 4. (used with a plural verb) Sometimes Offensive. the inhabitants ofScotland; the Scots. 5. (often lowercase) Scotch whisky. 6. Sometimes Offensive. the English language as spoken in Scotland;Scots.
The Welsh settled in America many years before the Scots or Irish. Most of the men that signed the Declaration of Independence were of Welsh descent. On the Lincoln Memorial in Washington is carved the Welsh language, "Cymru am Byth" which means Wales for Ever.
That may be true, but there's always more to the story. :) If you google about Irish child slavery to the southern US planters, there's a widespread and ugly story there. And on a different note - they recently found Irish influence and culture in a native Canadian tribe from some unknown previous time. Another one to be googled...
The Socts-Irish were many Presbyterians who had to get out of 'Ulster' because of their freethinking and liberternian ethos...As for Slavery..Well Oliver Cromwell was a great exponent of same slaving the native Irish in their tens of thousands to the West Indies.. 'To hell or Barbados' .. also lesser Known would Be The Nordic Nations out of West African Danish Gold Coast....
What did George Washington say about Scots-Irish soldiers? How many Scots-Irish slaves were held in north Jersey near Rockaway? Public schools have "lost" curriculum to politically correct. I am Austrian and Slovak / no self promotion.
Scots Irish history is interesting to me because this group of people helped build America but next to nothing is taught about them in school.
I wonder if you are taught propaganda Irish Roman Catholic instead,Won't surprise Me at all.
Thats because they were Irish! - DNA shows them to be Irish.
America invented the "Scots Irish" to obscure that.
yep....truly nothing is taught about them...only MAYBE if u take a specifically scottish or irish history class...im in scottish history right now and we barely talk about this group..maybe once or twice someone mentioned them....idk....i think people dont want us to remember our values and fighting spirit backbone
who did not help build america?
@@dickvarga6908 In today's world I could give you a group but time before me all people worked our starved to death... In today's America I'm ashamed of some people because of such garbage in their brain, and nothing but excuses as why this or that, its utterly sickening...And having a mentally inept person as a so-called leader is joke...I'm quite sure if it China or Russia was going to attack they would by now. But I'm quite sure the joint Chiefs of staff have already let it be known an incapacitated President still will not stop a full retaliation strike back if we are attacked...
Proud to identify as Ulster Scots. Direct ancestor came in before the “Presbyterian Rebellion,” settling in Pennsylvania, moved west,generation after generation. Thank you for this informative video.
Same with my dad's family that was Methodist and Lutheran and founded and settled the United States of America.
A dying breed.. be proud
There's no such thing as "Scots-Irish" or "Ulster Scots". Your forebears may have been ethnically cleansed so the Scottish lowlands were more profitable for the big landowners but you are just Irish after centuries of your people living there.
The "Scots" thing is sectarian bullshit pushed and encouraged by the English to divide and rule Ireland.
Ulster Scot myself, and born and raised in North Carolina. My great Grandfather came to the US to NY as a child with his parents and 8 siblings from Ireland. I’m extremely proud of my Heritage, my family, and our Culture.
Me too 👍 I'm Ulster Scot born and raised on a farm in NC . My ancestors were from Pennsylvania and came to NC on the great wagon Rd. I grew up in the house my great grandfather built in 1870 and attend the same Presbyterian church that he had 100yrs previous
'Scotch' is a beverage. 'Scots' is a proud people.
One of the most historically correct videos I have seen. Good job.
.... I am an Ulster-Scot. Born and bred in the mountains of Northeast Tennessee
Best comment on this video...
@Music Mick ....dumbass isn’t a race but yet here you are.
@Music Mick ..what’s you fucking problem asshole..?
@Music Mick
Yes, its an invention: these people called themselves Irish - and Washingtons Army celebrated St Patricks Day!....
The Americans actually hated the Scotch - called them savages - and Thomas Jefferson wanted to exclude them from the Declaration of Independence!....
@@bundeswehr7676 why don't you Irish go and mind your own business you took the United Irish men from us Liberal Presbyterians and turned it Sectarian,you won't take this from us,you Sinn feiner.
One of the most enjoyable little segments I’ve watched in a very long time
My wonderful heritage. Wish I knew so much more, so here I am.
Just Google - Ulster/Scots. Then you'll know it all.
to C Petersen: I am from Scottish/Irish descent. My maiden name is Scott. I too came here to maybe find out more about my heritage being that all my elder folk were gone before I was even born. I do know that my Scott side of the family were folk from W. Virginia, but that is about it....guess I'll have to go elsewhere to really learn something...LOL Wish someone in the family had had the forethought to write some stuff down for we girls. Oh well. Good luck to you! : )
Adolfo Bell Just checked your vids you're living in the past
That is rough. Try reading Born Fighting: How the Scotts-Irish Shaped America by James Webb. A lot of folks in this ethnic group are real hard asses, not particularly sentimental and helpful. They tend to be militaristic, somewhat agrarian, and often musical. I am descended from the border Bells through my maternal grandmother. You can email me as jebediah456@yahoo.com.
@@bobbijo63 The name "Scott" meant the person was Irish!, because the Irish were called Scots at that time..
I'm a descendant of the Scots-Irish....used to think just Irish but I guess my line runs back to the Scottish nobility with a bunch of Dukes, Barons, and such...still tracing my roots but it's been amazing so far!
+303430 The Scots who planted Ireland were commoners..
There were some clan leaders and great captains among them, but certainly not high aristocrats.
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I`m Scottish/Irish... there were thousands of people from all over Ireland who emigrated to Scotland over the centuries so when you talk about Scot`s/Irish remember they didn`t all emigrate to America from Ireland.
CF..I believe I have Scotts/Irish ancestry. I remember my Dad saying "Scotch" Irish. I assume that's the same people?
So out of the over 22000 who watch this video all people can do is call each other names and yet think they are scholars. Come on people step back and take a breath. Drop the hate of Americans for a while and enjoy learning. Some things may not be accurate but there is no need for the vitriol comments.
Scots-Irish and proud of it.
Dan Webster Amen! :-)
Racist, arrogant, and violent??? Like every other ethnic group's history, you mean? Your own comment shows a very narrow minded, arrogant, and condescending tone, typical of a "racist" attitude.
Me too! Ancestry even proved it. Negative comments are from jealous people and are to be pitied and ignored.
Ulster Scots please
A proud Ulster man only plastic yanks call it Irish it's like plastic paddies I would rather be a plastic Hamish
It's sad you're annoyed by it. My ancestors are Presbyterians originally from Perth and Stirling but filtered through County Armagh, and we're Scotch-Irish because that term distinguishes us from the Scots who stayed in Ulster; and because it is a label found nowhere else in the world, it marks us as an American ethnic group. Derry and the Boyne are all very fine, but our battles were here in North America.
Thank you,for the truth. If the Irish revisionists don't like the truth, too bad!
Davy Crockett's family may have lived in a Scots-Irish area, but he was actually of French Huguenot ancestry with his original last name being anglicised from Crocketague (there atre different spellings as well).
Thanks. I did not know that.
Davy croketts family have no scottish ancestry at all nor was Davy crockket scots irish , he was simply irish as he states in his own writing , his ancestors were french hugueonots who migrated to ireland arrving at the port in cork .
I have found what you say to be true. I have traced back all of my family to either Northern Germany, Northern France, Scotland, Ulster, and Sweden.
The common-thread being Protestantism.
And more interestingly, if you look at haplotype map of Europe and you can easily tell that religion ran on tribal lines.
People are so secular these days they forget why they are here.
We are escaping the hordes of agrarian invaders, the story goes back to pre-Roman Thrace.
The agrarian invaders tend to be collectivist.
The hunter-gatherer types are independent.
This also shows up today in our attitudes about Brexit, etc.
Bonns and Boones are also of that stock.
But he will have real royal blood before the dragons took over.
You don't want to be related to these inbreed psychopathic satanic serpents, their bloodline is from Cain, Attila the Hun, Tut, Dracula etc, they create 'Sodoms and Gomorrahs' where ever they tread.
Davy Crockets family hail from county Donegal Ireland.
His family was from Co Antrim the huguenot's were french protestant moved to ireland after the french inquisition also went to Holland and came to fight at the battle of the boyne with king William the 3rd
Part Scots-Irish but never knew what it meant, really. Good documentary.
I live in Northern Ireland and would still call myself ulster Scot!
I'm Scottish born and lived in Lowland Scotland from Northern Irish great grand parents which means im "Irish Scots". The dialect in Lowland Scotland and Ulster is very similar to Appalachian.The same phrases and words spoken. So interesting.
Call it what you want, this identity has had a strong impact on American history.
This identity was IRISH - DNA proves it!
Border Scots who were too troublesome for the Scots & English crowns so they were deported to Ulster to colonize the predominantly Roman Catholic Irish. Some are still there: Ian Paisley was one, by religion, name and attitude toward the RC Irish. Jackson, Wilson, Nixon, Johnson, check their family trees. The Steel Bonnets is a good history of them up to the early 1600's.
They pissed of England, as well, because they kept moving into American-frontier territory that was offlimits; the English had made treaties with the Indian tribes, and the Scots-Irish kept breaking the treaties (especially going into Ohio, Kentucky, and Tennessee).
nixon is an native irish famly not scottish .. johnson is from the irish clan Mac Eóin.
King tried to kill two birds with one stone. But instead it created a hybrid in their descendants....a blend of Scots and Irish....
@@lairofdionysus1943 u know about as much about irish history as my arse knows about snipe shooting.
Lots of bigoted ignorant people on here making sweeping generalizations about a whole group of people they know nothing about . Just driven by hatred and bigotry.
They were hard working and fearless !
Something the Irish aren't
@@barry5356, that's a good Jewish name you got!!
What did the Irish do to be last in everything
When making statements such as the Irish are actually German, French, etc... You must be careful not to confuse nationalities with genetic origins. It has become much more important to unlocking who we all really are to look at genetic mutation in y-haplogroups rather than national/ethno-linguistic/tribal identities. The dominant 'gene pool' in Turkey, for example, is not Central Asian at all but rather Greek which would infer that the vast majority of Turks are of Greek stock.
small turkish tribes ruled greeks qwho had lived there long before the turks arrived, common situation, check out the franks/french or the bulgars.
Very interesting video. Thanks for posting this.
Distrusting all forms of government and religious Authority but developing of a greater reliance for family through shared heritage is one of the most American things I've ever heard of.
excellent video! Thanks for the upload!
This is all ancient history folks! Ok we all want to know our ancestry, but whether it`s Ireland, Scotland, Wales or England does it matter today? England could never have had an empire if not for the Irish, Scottish and Welsh they were the frontline soldiers of the English army, still are today. Religion didn`t come into it until after the English civil war, and it`s the poor who were transported with the promise of free land, it happened in all of the new world at the time first America and later Australia so called criminals and the poor. But if you go even further back when the Irish were raiding southern England and Wales and bringing slaves back to Ireland, which is where Saint Patrick the patron saint of Ireland supposedly comes from, begs the question who invaded who first? What we should remember whether we are English, Irish Welsh or Scottish is that we have a rich and colourful history, we are seperated from mainland Europe by the seas, but we have the influence of the Celts, Romans, Normans and the Vikings in our cultures, we only passed that on to the new worlds
If Religin didnt come intoit after the English civil war, then why did they dispose of James II?
+peter falvey Yes it does matter today, at least to the folks England oppressed.. The English always put those they oppressed in the front lines.. They were less important than Englishmen.. My son (about 14/16 Irish) has a friend Who's an Irish-Catholic immigrant.. She is so bitter that she will not have an Irish protestant in her house..
All cultures have kept slaves, including the English.. The nobility were the only free men.. The Irish and Highland Scots share a culture.. England and Wales have their own individually.. The Romans did not make it to Ireland..
It matters to me too. I still can't stand the English especially their heirarchical formal ways, their heartlessness, exploitativeness, and exclusiveness and extreme snobbishness.
@@geoffreyharris5682Your comment is very old but describes the upper and ruling classes of England, and most other nationsin general. The ordinary English citizens do not share those values and certainly not the working classes, who were also exploited. We hate the class system in this country too. And of course many English people if not the majority have Scottish and Irish heritage and vice versa. Like Americans claim to have.
@Reginastar28 No, the Portugese brought them to Brazil. They were enslaved in Africa by other Africans. Usually there was tribal warfare in Africa and the winner of the war would bring the conquered people to the sea ports to sell them to the Portugese. But the Portugese never went into Africa to enslave anybody, they just bought them at the ports and they were already in chains. The Portugese never left the ship.
I'm a Ulster Scot from sout west Virginia
Me too, Augusta Virgina is where my Family came from, was a huge Scots/Irish area
Low-land Protestant Scots were given land stolen from the Catholic Irish by the English. Then they went to "America" and took Indian land. The video didn't describe their attitude to the Irish or the Indians. (The low-land Scots are not necessarily the same as the Island and Highland Scots.)
Was there a difference in the colonies between Scots Irish and Scots in the 1750s?
Were there cultural differences?
Yes I am well aware they are called Ulster Scots in Ireland, being one myself. That is how the Americans identify them in America so that is fine, it's all semantics - they are Scots whom lived in Ireland. I am Ulster Scots and where was I born - oh thats right I was born in Ireland! Read up on your history Calengela - the Ulster Scots Lagganeer army raised in Ulster fought against Cromell's army in 1649. History is not black and white like some would have it painted now.
When you see a great comment and excitedly start to reply, then realize it's from seven years ago...
Great Video!
Ulster Scots ancestry myself. You missed one path westward from Winchester, Va through northern West Virginia through the corner of Western Maryland and back into West Virginia ending at about the intersection of the Cheat River and the Pennsylvania border. Your folklorist is pushing an out dated view. The route I described facilitated an early industrial cattle operation extending from Winchester, Va over the mountains and down the river system to the Scioto River Valley.
Scotch-Irish is a common term as well. Ulster-Scott is more so.
Ulster is the "9-County" North province of 32-County Ireland. During the Irish War of Independence, the Provence of Ulster was partitioned with a "Sectarian Border" with 3-Counties of Ulster becoming part of the Republic of Ireland and 6-Counties of Ulster remaining an English Colony.
The Scots derive their name from an Irish tribe called the Scotti.
Calling someone Scotch-Irish is like calling someone Liverpudlian-English.
The Scots and Irish are the one people, we are a Celtic peoples.
We are, but we speak in different Celtic tongue . In the time when the Scots Irish went to the colony's it was the English who penned the name Scots Irish .
@@harry9392 :; Ireland had 4 versions of Gaelic Language one for each province, Munster Gaelic (South) Leinster Gaelic (East) Ulster Gaelic (north) and Connaught Gaelic "(West)
thanks, that explains a lot for me personally
I love them all
Love Irish history. The immigration wasnt one way. Large numbers of Scots are of Irish descent, Billy Connelly and Sean Connery for example.
Aye but that didn't happen as far as mass ROMAN CATHOLIC Irish immigration into Scotland was concerned until the mid nineteenth century and the two men you have quoted were descendants of this migration into Scotland.This film is about the migration into Ulster by us Scots which it could be argued were simply going home and after onto America.
@@calumroney7352 The difference between the immigration was one was colonialism by the scottish.
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Actually ulsters traveled to the colonies as early as 1607 (I can only say that because of an ancestor of mine)
Wrong because Ulster plantations didn’t get created until about 1606
Prefer Ulster Scots to Scotch Irish.
Ok take the Catholic out and you have another religion with Ulster Wcot. I would hate to see a religious war here as well as Belfast. so I'm Scot/Irish you are Ulster Scot. Well done
Interesting video on the Scottish-Irish people of the Americas. The comments below are pretty extreme though. There really is little difference between Irish and Scottish people and Scotch-Irish, all are mixed Gaelic/Pictoceltic with Nordic-Norman-English influence. The Scots-Irish were poor people from towns in Scotland, whose ancestors had changed to English earlier, who had lost their tribal ties - similarly to some townlands of Mexico where people are mostly native but think of their ancestry as Spanish - but the Scots Irish had absorbed various a different religious culture and were granted land in the free areas of Ireland to defend the new status quo - this was the strategy to keep Scotland subdued, and it worked for centuries.
The plantations didn't work very well, and life was harsh for everyone. I believe that nowadays all 9 counties of Ulster are populated mostly from the Irish tradition, with the exception of just Belfast. However, people aren't very religious any more.
As one poster pointed out - the Irish look ape-like, and I would say that yes of course we do, all the Irish, Scottish, Scots-Irish and all other nationalities have strong ape-like characteristics, since we all descend from a common ape-like ancestor.
Actually on re-reading my last comment sounds weird - so let me phrase it better. All humans share a common ancestor with apes. This was because of a few racially based comments posted against Irish people. So, let the terrorists call us whatever they want or discriminate against us as much as they wish. Who cares? All humans are primates. However, we are the englightened ones, and the racists are the bottom of the human barrell.
+emmo They were given land that was stolen from the Irish.. You need to take another look at history and biology..
+Robin Conkel-hAnnan Thanks for pointing that out - what I mean to say was that, the Irish nobles and their clans (all the local people) were driven out, and the land was freed for settlement. It was then offered to the English/Scottish settlers who were brought in specifically to plant an anti-catholic population. The natives were allowed, after a while, to rent some of their own family's land back at a high price.
Thanks for spotting that typo Robin..
emmo Yep, that's what it was.. The English wanted to get rid of all of the Irish so they could have Ireland for themselves.. Even before there was a religious problem.. Then Cromwell subdued Ireland, shipped men, women and children into slavery in SA and the West Indies.. The English have not been nice people..
+Robin Conkel-hAnnan It wasn't our idea , the English King told my ancestors ( Clan Johnstone ) move to Ireland or hang . They moved
the scotti were an irish tribe. they tired of viking incursions from northern britain. so they invaded, took over the place and became the scots. although kin to the irish, a far different history, both versus the english and the church.
You need to learn early American Revolutionary History. The sponsor of this video is absolutely correct.
Can someone please explain what would have brought Scotts here in 1623? Because my 9th great grandpa was in Connecticut by then. And my DNA has been sequenced proving he was full blooded Scottish.
From the comments below there is as much animosity now as ever...I think I'll just settle for being an American. It's obvious to me that there is an element of humanity that thrives on hate, revenge, dominance, and humiliation. I don't see humankind surviving this way for another 100 yrs.
scots influence ...music and culture is certainly spread around.
I'm very proud of our boys in Northern Island and south Cork my family is from If you don't live in Ireland not right to comment too much over religion I feel like many that should be left to the people involved and live there north or south If you want to see proud hard people go there
well the oldest whiskey distillery in the world is in county Antrim Northen ireland i went to school in the same town.
Were these folk Presbyterian or Anglican..all of them?? Were they preservers of an earlier folk tradition?
these statements i read here are just like the division here in Ireland now. I am of French Huguenot extraction, born in Belfast 1950 suffered the same poverty as anybody else but made to feel my ancestors were the oppressors. It's all to do with romantic thoughts on history. But most of the discussion i found funny.
Fair point. I’m sure non of your ancestors oppressed anyone, and identity politics is a dangerous game to play. But there were documented laws that discriminated against the catholic population. Long before your date of birth. More I think about it the French are pretty pathetic at wars so you’ve definitely nothing to feel guilty about.
@@garyodriscoll7988 The Presbyterians were also persecuted, i would suggest you read about the United Irish men. But I have a feeling no matter what was put in front of you would object to it. Gary live in my shoes.
@@pammercer6745 I know the Presbyterians were also oppressed, why do you think they jumped at the chance to Fight the English when they arrived in America. I think George Washington is quoted as saying they were the best soldiers he had ever seen. Just because I slagged the French you think I cant critically think? or can't comprehend facts? lol
Here's one for you. Ireland was a bunch of Kingdoms, we were not a country that was united when the plantation were being done to us. I basically think it was our fault we were invaded. I know the numbers were against us in terms of soldiers, but we had home advantage and were fighting paid soldiers, that should kinda even out the numerical advantage? what you think?.
"Live in your shoes?" What do you mean?
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The Irish had a High king when they were invaded.
George Washington was talking about the IRISH when he said that - don't fall for the propaganda. There were half a million IRISH in America at that time.
The Irish were oppressed all over Ireland - fled to America. DNA proves that the "Scots Irish" were actually Irish.
@@johnpatrick5307 My confusion is...What do you mean by Irish?
My understanding is that "Scots Irish/Ulster Irish", were names given to those groups of people by Americans when the landed.
They, themselves didn't refer to themselves as being Irish.
Were the Half a million "Irish" in America at the time Catholic Irish? as in Real Irish?
Or were they protestants from England/Scotland, who stayed maybe a generation in Ireland and then Immigrated to America.
Again they didn't consider themselves Irish. I thought the majority of Catholic Irish didn't go until the famine time?
Did she mention that we still hate Papists??
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Respectfully, I disagree. I'm 3rd generation Appalachian [app-uh-LATCH-in] My heritage is a proud mix of Scottish, Irish, and Cherokee - Echota [E-co-ta] band of Northeast Alabama. I'm grateful to all 3 groups for fighting to settle and remain here; learning to live together as Americans and making my life possible. If you'd ever been called a 'hick', 'white trash', 'racist redneck', or 'inbred hillbilly' [all demeaning hate-fueled terms], you might find them more annoying than 'Scots-Irish'.
Read between the lines. Look at the map and the "architecture". Understand the cultural legacy arcing from there to here.
My family history says our Clan of that ilk were supposed to land to the North but the British themselves occupied the homes and lands displaced to what was later named Pennsylvania by a committee which the Dunlaps attended the naming ceremony. The Scottish rights were accredited with starting the rebellion possibly influenced by the Magna Carta. The clan system stopped the Roman advance into Scotland's past. Two walls such was their fear of what was to be known as berserkers
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What I don't get is why they are still so loyal to the United Kingdom even though the English persecuted them
@Richard Rich....The country of Ireland Is not Loyal to the UK but the province of Northern Ireland Is as It`s part of the UK...It`s the same as Gibraltar... that`s In Spain but It`s a Province Of the UK.
@@cf3443 The 6-North East Counties of 30-County Ireland are still an English Colony, Part of the First English Colony and they push Sectarian Buttons for a Nostalgic Grip on the past when a Dutch Protestant King Billy defeated the English Catholic King at the Battle of The Boyne. "King William of Orange" was a Dutch Man. Not a Saxon or Scot.
@@johndoe-ss9bz The English did more than just collect the rent! Their DNA is write large in Southern Irish population
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No it isn't. More lies.
And the "English" aren't actually "English" anyway: Britons, Saxons, Normans - plus.
@@johnpatrick5307 Your fake ignorance astounds me. You must be a "Plastic Paddy"!!! Irish are also Normans, Vikings etc and from many older English plantations across the whole of Ireland. Indeed, Dublin was populated by people from Bristol... "Wild Irish" were not allowed in the city! The east coast of Ireland is probably more Anglo Saxon than parts of England. You really have a lot to learn! There was even a plantation from "New England" to the Cork area!!
@Reginastar28 Wrong. Slave trade was Portugese, not Spanish. And the Africans were already slaves in Africa, sold to the Portugese by other Africans. The Portugese merely bought them, they did not enslave them.
Here in ireland we never thought of Scots/ irish as nothing but Scottish. They were not Irish, they were Scottish....
@Hafnia I'm from and live in dundalk. Don't tell me about a part of Erie I know better that you ever will. Don't assume before you write, it makes you look like a complete moron.
It’s Ulster Scots not Irish. Please get it right.
There was no northern Ireland at that time......
But there was an Ulster. My grandfather always referred to himself as an Ulsterman, and British. He was never from Northern Ireland or England. His parents were murdered by Sinn Fein in 1918 so he and his brothers left the old country - three to Kentucky and two to New Zealand.
Magister in Artium sorry for your grandfather loss. As a Catholic Irishman I wish there could of been a peaceful solution.
Gary O'Driscoll thanks for making contact. My father told me that every Christmas Eve my grandad would walk along to the local Catholic Church (St Mary’s here in Hastings, New Zealand) and have fellowship with all the Irish folk there. They would have a great time. My Dad said it was the only time he would see his father come home late, a little under the weather. He had a very broad Irish accent. Well, I am impressed that none of those early migrants to New Zealand brought any religious animosity with them. Certainly, contrary to what Rev. Paisley said, I don’t think the prejudice ran very deep.
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@@PiperStart Ireland had a very long and rough time... Its never been at peace... The greedy hand of England been the worse of its trouble... Its only now there's a chance for real peace... Our country will b as one... When the time is right.....
My family came over on the Ark of the Dove 1634 ( Ashmores).
SCOTS-IRISH. Not Scotch-Irish. Scotch is a drink, not a nationality. LOL! My grandfather drilled that into my head when I was little. He was a Scot and he drank Scotch. This documentary has that wrong.
Like every other historical account of the Scots-Irish you have completely left out the SPOWs sent to New England in 1651-1652. Their frontier was Maine.
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Its all about the right political decision for the right scenario. The acts enabling religious persecution of Presbyterians in Ireland were eventually repealed and the Scot's Irish saw alliance with the crown as safer than alliance with the natives.Although in 1798 the Scot's Irish were involved in a rebellion against the crown. Its all politics e.g. the Irish who had previously rebelled against the crown fought for the Stewart kings in the 1600s.Scots Irish and the Irish fought Cromwell 1649.
Grandmother and her dad both played the bango
Scots are people. Scotch is whiskey.
When I hear "Scotch"-Irish, it makes my ears bleed. Scotch is a drink. These people were Scots-Irish. And I guess it bears repeating, they weren't Irish. They were Scottish Protestants in Ireland.
Nope . It:s pronounced scotch. Same as the whisky
I am ulster Scots which in the US is Scots Irish not scotch
First Class Protestants were the Church of England and the Plantation of Ulster with Scots Farmers and Laborers had to be non-catholic but Presbyterians were treated as 2nd class protestants. The best lands that were confiscated by the English Crown from the Irish Catholic Landomners went to North English Nobles.
The word "Scotch-Irish" is an American invention. I know, it doesn't make any sense.
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Why? Most protestant people in Ulster (Scots-Irish in US) are English descent. Duh!
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Scott - Irish and Native American here. Descendant of the Lindsay, Ross, Stewart and Rose line. The Indian.. we know it's tgere. My great great grandmother was half or full.. but we do not know what tribe. I've been unable to dig up any info.
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It is the Scots-Irish not the Scotch that was drank in Scotland. They were Scots that migrated to America. They were Ulster Scots.
Lynch is Irish - as DNA proves that the "Scots Irish" were actually Irish.
one o' my great Gaffers was from Inverness the other from Donegal, so I'm as Scots Irish as can be
ah.. well, they won't like that - that's a different type of Scottish-Irish, heheh.
Sots irish means your family came from plantation stock not being half Scots half irish
Your certainly Scots...They kingdom spanned both countries
Allegheny in Pennsylvania is where my family settled.
We do know for certain that some American historians of the late 19th Century invented the label "Scotch Irish", they created the term for anyone who was Irish or known of Ireland but not of the recent poor and often diseased famine Irish.
What we don't generally know is how these historians could have possibly made such connections and conclusions relying only on evidence!
They could not have actually studied or attempted a study of the historical resources of the time period or earlier periods - more commonly known as the study of history.
Because contrary to the simple tales from these 19th century American historians (who were clearly looking to separate past Irish emigrants, with the newer hungry poor masses of more recent Irish). We know many if not most of the Irish in America before the 'famine' Irish were still Irish, few to none earlier labelled themselves as scots Irish or any other such nonsense.
@@ElizabethRussell144 because by the 1900s this term was in use
@@ElizabethRussell144 and maybe they were descendants of Ulster Scots. Many aren’t tho and are simply descendants of Irish immigrants
There were no political entities such as scotland or Ireland 10,000 tears ago,a wandering people from central europe migrated through germany,france,england,scotland,and then to ireland(all modern entities).So by unionist reasoning if all Irish are scots,then all scots are english,all french are german and so on.It was the political and religous climate of the last 600 years that has most influenced who we are today.Ulster scots dialect is a recent invention.
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Scots-Irish is a 20th c. invention. Robert Burns (18th c.) used the term Scotch-Irish in his writings.
No he didn't.
Whiskey = Irish
Bagpipes older in Ireland
Tartan Kilt not Irish or Scottish. invented by Victorians Hanoverians.
Scot means Irish in Latin.
Those are only recorded historical facts mind. Don't let such trivialities get in the way of inherited bias.
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Clan McCutcheon (from Hutcheon, French). Clatchen also Cutcheon. Any history on them?
I was told this clan is from central western Scotland. My father's father's father was of these, name Grrrrahn-pa Joey McCutcheon. ☺
Some good, a little bad. Read James Webb's "Born Fighting," for a more thorough treatment of the group. God forbid that we ever produce another Woodrow Wilson, but a couple of Andy Jacksons would be useful.
I am Scotch-Irish too. Andrew Jackson was unfit to serve. The Indian Removal Act was genocidal and unworthy of an honorable Scotch-Irish man.
Every time I hear them say Scotch instead of Scot, I cringe!
Davideo Tapes A queen of England or something?
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I think it's time to drop the "Irish" part and just call them Scottish Americans, since they are not Irish, but rather Scottish. In Northern Ireland, they call themselves Ulster Scots, not Scots-Irish, which is an American invention.
or just call them americans
You are closer to the truth than irishaware!
The Irish have distinct facial features, not to be confused with the Scots who are burly.
The scotch should let the Irish alone
I am a Walsh who married a Green. Not sure but think I'm more Irish and he's more Scot....but I can tell ya we both have the tempers lol
Walsh was the name given to the Welch in Ireland . green is both English and Irish
I should add that Scots and the Ulster scots dialect have offical status."But it has been claimed that the recent "Ulster-Scots language and heritage cause has been set rolling only out of a sense of cultural rivalry among some Protestants and unionists, keen to counter-balance the onward march of the Irish language movement".If Scotinulster contends that there is no truth in the preceding satement,I will respect his position.
As well. But majority is English descent. And now they're Irish.
It's "SCOTS-Irish" not Scotch, that a whisky.
ja jane You are incorrect with all due respect. It's proper to pronounce it Scots-Irish or Scotch Irish. In North Carolina in Scotland county :), there is a club called the Scotch-Irish society.
Scotch
[skoch]
adjective
1.
(used outside of Scotland) of Scottish origin; resembling or regarded ascharacteristic of Scotland or the Scottish people:
Scotch plaid.
2.
Sometimes Offensive. of or relating to Scotland or its inhabitants;Scottish.
3.
(usually lowercase) Informal. frugal; provident; thrifty.noun
4.
(used with a plural verb) Sometimes Offensive. the inhabitants ofScotland; the Scots.
5.
(often lowercase) Scotch whisky.
6.
Sometimes Offensive. the English language as spoken in Scotland;Scots.
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The Welsh settled in America many years before the Scots or Irish. Most of the men that signed the Declaration of Independence were of Welsh descent. On the Lincoln Memorial in Washington is carved the Welsh language, "Cymru am Byth" which means Wales for Ever.
Yes indeed we need to hav sum representation on these sites!! We settled and made this country wat it is
That may be true, but there's always more to the story. :) If you google about Irish child slavery to the southern US planters, there's a widespread and ugly story there. And on a different note - they recently found Irish influence and culture in a native Canadian tribe from some unknown previous time. Another one to be googled...
Shut up you fucking welsh corgi trying to hurt my ancestors
TheIrishwalrus Lol Im Ulster Scot too, and have a little bit of Irish catholic further back in my family
david evans English the celts did noting in the American revolution it was an English civil war.
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Scotch is a drink, Laddies. A common mistake.
The Socts-Irish were many Presbyterians who had to get out of 'Ulster' because of their freethinking and liberternian ethos...As for Slavery..Well Oliver Cromwell was a great exponent of same slaving the native Irish in their tens of thousands to the West Indies.. 'To hell or Barbados' .. also lesser Known would Be The Nordic Nations out of West African Danish Gold Coast....
"Freethinking, libertarian"? - no!
Scotch Irish WERE Irish - DNA shows it.
What did George Washington say about Scots-Irish soldiers?
How many Scots-Irish slaves were held in north Jersey near Rockaway?
Public schools have "lost" curriculum to politically correct.
I am Austrian and Slovak / no self promotion.
They were called "Irish" - "Scots-Irish" is a later invention.
Thanks for the federal reserve haha