I would not dare insult you by offering to buy that artifact of yours; But in keeping with the Lord of Deals, I will offer you twenty Septims for another tale on where to find more Daedric Artifacts like the one you carry there.
Todd Howard voiced Clavicus Vile. He could have been anyone in the game, but decided on Clavicus Vile. He had to _opt in_ to voicing him by the time Oblivion rolled around. I learned this as a child who was far, _far_ to hype about finally having beaten Oblivion main quest and started actually reading the credits lmao. I also took it as an omen. No need for me to freak out about any Bethesda Game Studio events. Someone once asked who would realistically fall for Clavicus Vile's ruse. I know exactly who would. They're all over the internet being very sour now.
Your videos bring me comfort. I suffer from psychosis and derealization, and my life feels like a constant nightmare. There's not much that calms me, but your videos do because they remind me of better times, a time when I wasn't sick and when video games felt different. Thank you for that. I hope you continue on the path of 'Oblivion'.
Also cannot be removed from your inventory when all your items are taken. Handy for quests like Through a Nightmare, Darkly or the Dagon Shrine. Or the Sanguine quest.
Long time since I played Oblivion, but I remember watching a LP series a couple of years ago where the guy got out of the sewers and headed straight to get Umbra. He spent the next two episodes standing on a rock outside the entrance of the dungeon, taking advantage of the mechanics, until he finally killed her. That was both arduous and glorious.
I've seen a couple people "fail" at getting Umbra right at the beginning. From trying to lure her into the Imperial City for the guards to dispatch her, to trapping her on some spike trap or poison gas.
Another minor fun fact: it's possible that returning the Umbra sword to Vile *might* be canonical within the events of the series, as the Sleeping Tree in Skyrim appears to be a potential reference to some of the events of Greg Keyes' "The Infernal City" fan-novel, within which Umbra becomes sentient and... a lot happens. However, this theory is mostly predicated upon a single line of dialogue from Ysolda when presented with a note found on a dead Orc in the Giant Camp set up around the Sleeping Tree. It's also believed the Sleeping Tree might be similar to the Hist trees, but that might be linked to "The Infernal City" as well. I'm a tad fuzzy on specific details.
I love everything about this quest... except for the official reward. I love how Umbra's tale is one of those "two sentence short stories." I love the weapon. I love the mystery. I also love how, if you're really good, you can score a full set of ebony armor and a weightless ebony sword at level 1.
Technically it's a set of Orcish armor that looks like Ebony. There's two stat figures depending on when you cause Umbra to spawn. Below level 14, it has Orcish stats, above 14 it has Ebony stats. Same level Ebony starts to spawn naturally. You know, in case you're a completionist like me.
Clavicus Vile is one of those daedric princes that can be dealt with. Yes, he will try to interpret the deal, try to renegotiate. But we won't directly lie to you, he won't break a promise or ignore a deal you've made with him. And he will respect if you manage to get a good deal out of him. As with all daedric princes it is best to just avoid them, but Clavicus Vile won't hunt you in lust for blod, won't give you strange diseases, won't strike you with madness or suffering. If there is any pain, it's because you agreed to a bad deal of your own volition.
Well, he did technically create the vampiric disease for Oblivion, Polymorphic Hemophilia😂 but still, Clavicus Vile is far better than dealing with Molag Bal.
@@DelinquentChibi Yes sir it is. As we see in dawnguard only certain vampire bloodlines can become vampire lords. Similar to the witchers "High Vampires" and "lesser Vampires" vampire lords derive that power from the closer connection to Molag Bal.
Just like you reneging on the deal with Vile gives you the one of the strongest daedric weapon Umbra, doing the equivalent in Skyrim will grant you the strongest companion, Barbas himself.
@@NoelCo-yd1gu No no, there's a logic here if we consider what makes a companion strong-- listen, an unkillable companion will, with enough time, take out any enemy in game. Next to a vulnerable companion who is a heavy hitter, even if you value the time it takes more, the risks mean the actual output you're getting is suspect to fluctuate wildly, and is not in the favor of the nonessential NPC. Also, you can have Barbas _and_ another companion as he fills the pet slot, not the follower slot. So if you get an essential follower and an essential pet, you have an unstoppable death machine. A slow unstoppable death machine, but you'll always have a leg up, on any difficulty. Who is to say that isn't a reasonable measure of strength?
@@NoelCo-yd1gu TL;DR Barbas will out lifetime DPS any nonessential character by virtue of having 0% threats to the value of S, where the probability of dying must be taken into account for the lifetime stat of the seconds actually afforded, which will cut that number down. And Barbas' DPS will be equal to any other essential character by virtue of the nature of infinity.
Id always make terrible characters level wise, but on a recent play through I used efficient levelling and "One shot" Umbra on max difficulty with a poison I made...Felt great after always cheesing her with a nord using racial ability and back stepping her
"Say, do you have any drinking money for the week?" Proceeds to hand the Nord well over 1,500 gold, enough to buy almost a month's worth of Cyrodiilic Brandy (assuming he'd drink 1 every day), a brew that is significantly more expensive than any of the other available beverages. Or alternatively, enough gold to buy a bottle of Ale every day for nearly a year.
The best path to take if you want to keep the sword is to tell Umbra you won't kill her, then return to the shrine to complete the quest. After that, go back to the ruins, kill her, and take the sword. This way, the sword remains weightless, and the quest will count as complete for the sake of Hermaeus Mora's quest.
@@heswallowedburningcoals19 It's on the UESP page for the quest, at the bottom of the "Returning to the Shrine" section (right above the "Notes" section). I've also confirmed it by doing it myself.
how many daedric quests might be left now until hermaeus mora lays his eye upon you? poor lenwin though. she got overwhelmed by that sword and tried to live afar from others as to not do any harm to them. and only her untimely death by your hands finally freed her from the blades grasp. unless her soul joined the others absorbed by the black edges of umbra.
I have no idea what is meant by "strongest" sword, maybe referring to the highest base damage but that doesn't mean much. The proven highest dps sword in the game is Chillrend (assuming it is charged)
Did anyone else do this as their first playthrough then get really disapointed when every dungeons didnt have a entirely unique armer set at the bottom? Like I didnt even talk to her just looked went I want that and five minutes later after a hard battle had the best armor and sword early on.
If you take his mask, you can help boost your personality well past 100, and at a certain amount you will be friendly with all enemy NPC's- no sword necessary.
around 300 personality the npc enemies won’t kill you around 400 the creatures won’t kill you either unless you pull out a weapon. if you add a bit more they won’t kill you even if you pull out weapons.
Hey Dash hope you are doing good ! I don't know if you remember me but I'm the guy that used to help give you info and ideas for your Star Wars Dash Star videos. Haven't talked to you in a long time. Be good to chat with you sometime. Tried to send you a message on Facebook messenger.
Vile tells you that you won't find a better deal than bringing Umbra back to him. Best sword in the game for a helmet you'll probably never wear? Nah Also, I've never done this quest the normal way. I randomly found umbra way before I found this shrine quest. Only completed it once and regretted it.
I have always loved using the Clavicus Vile mask in Skyrim. It’s a shame it’s so dang ugly. Then again, the only armor set in-game I really like is the Nightingale Armor, so it’s probably a me problem.
Can you imagine the effect on the economy if gods were removing physical money from our plane of existence like donating to clavicus? Like if all the tithe money disappeared into Jesus’ pockets?
Option 3- Kill Umbra, finish every single quest except hermaus mora, then give clavicus vile the sword so you can get all the artifacts and do the hermaeus mora quest, then give yourself the sword with console commands, and be slightly annoyed it now has weight, but you are done everything else anyway.
You rather kill someone, then pay 500G... Just to talk to a cosmic power? That'd be more understandable in the current Real World. But in games like these... 500G, is no different from 5C. XD None the less. Awesome work, yet again. "DLD" Look forward to the next video.
I would not dare insult you by offering to buy that artifact of yours; But in keeping with the Lord of Deals, I will offer you twenty Septims for another tale on where to find more Daedric Artifacts like the one you carry there.
20 septims AND an in universe blurb. You are too kind 😍
For 100 Septims I'll hire you to locate the best heavy armor and war hammer.
Todd Howard voiced Clavicus Vile. He could have been anyone in the game, but decided on Clavicus Vile. He had to _opt in_ to voicing him by the time Oblivion rolled around. I learned this as a child who was far, _far_ to hype about finally having beaten Oblivion main quest and started actually reading the credits lmao. I also took it as an omen. No need for me to freak out about any Bethesda Game Studio events. Someone once asked who would realistically fall for Clavicus Vile's ruse. I know exactly who would. They're all over the internet being very sour now.
Wow. Literally God Howard confirmed.
Your videos bring me comfort. I suffer from psychosis and derealization, and my life feels like a constant nightmare. There's not much that calms me, but your videos do because they remind me of better times, a time when I wasn't sick and when video games felt different.
Thank you for that. I hope you continue on the path of 'Oblivion'.
Peace to you man.
Divines smile on you, friend.
@@sadboiz4lyfe Thank you ,it never hurts to hear that
Hope you find a solution and get better friend ❤
Another fringe benefit of keeping Umbra without completing the quest is that you cannot be disarmed while wielding it.
Whaaaaaaaaaat!! I never knew that!
Also cannot be removed from your inventory when all your items are taken. Handy for quests like Through a Nightmare, Darkly or the Dagon Shrine. Or the Sanguine quest.
Ah, a wonderful Todd's voice acting. Whoever wears The Masque starts to speak in this voice, that's why you get +20 to personality.
I usually head for Umbra as soon as I escape the prison. She isn't essential even before beginning the quest...
RIP for the unaware on hard mode
Mister "Hamfist filled with 1000s of gold briberies" said "Does it have to be 500g? Can I just sacrifice someone?"
Long time since I played Oblivion, but I remember watching a LP series a couple of years ago where the guy got out of the sewers and headed straight to get Umbra. He spent the next two episodes standing on a rock outside the entrance of the dungeon, taking advantage of the mechanics, until he finally killed her. That was both arduous and glorious.
I've seen a couple people "fail" at getting Umbra right at the beginning. From trying to lure her into the Imperial City for the guards to dispatch her, to trapping her on some spike trap or poison gas.
I hit her and run. Swim to the Imperial City, jump on roofs and dodge as guards slowly beat her down
I do the guards one. It takes forever but it does work XD
Another minor fun fact: it's possible that returning the Umbra sword to Vile *might* be canonical within the events of the series, as the Sleeping Tree in Skyrim appears to be a potential reference to some of the events of Greg Keyes' "The Infernal City" fan-novel, within which Umbra becomes sentient and... a lot happens. However, this theory is mostly predicated upon a single line of dialogue from Ysolda when presented with a note found on a dead Orc in the Giant Camp set up around the Sleeping Tree. It's also believed the Sleeping Tree might be similar to the Hist trees, but that might be linked to "The Infernal City" as well. I'm a tad fuzzy on specific details.
Its not a "fan novel" they paid him to write it.
I love everything about this quest... except for the official reward. I love how Umbra's tale is one of those "two sentence short stories." I love the weapon. I love the mystery. I also love how, if you're really good, you can score a full set of ebony armor and a weightless ebony sword at level 1.
Yeah, some mysteries are better when you don't explain everything.
Technically it's a set of Orcish armor that looks like Ebony. There's two stat figures depending on when you cause Umbra to spawn. Below level 14, it has Orcish stats, above 14 it has Ebony stats. Same level Ebony starts to spawn naturally.
You know, in case you're a completionist like me.
One of the worst trade deals ever
Clavicus Vile is one of those daedric princes that can be dealt with. Yes, he will try to interpret the deal, try to renegotiate. But we won't directly lie to you, he won't break a promise or ignore a deal you've made with him. And he will respect if you manage to get a good deal out of him.
As with all daedric princes it is best to just avoid them, but Clavicus Vile won't hunt you in lust for blod, won't give you strange diseases, won't strike you with madness or suffering. If there is any pain, it's because you agreed to a bad deal of your own volition.
"The Art of the Deal" - Clavicus Vile
Well, he did technically create the vampiric disease for Oblivion, Polymorphic Hemophilia😂 but still, Clavicus Vile is far better than dealing with Molag Bal.
@@SkinnyEatWorld95 I didn't know that. Can you tell more about?
@@SkinnyEatWorld95 Lore-wise Molag Bal created the first vampire, unless the disease is treated as different from Molag Bal's vampires in lore?
@@DelinquentChibi
Yes sir it is. As we see in dawnguard only certain vampire bloodlines can become vampire lords. Similar to the witchers "High Vampires" and "lesser Vampires" vampire lords derive that power from the closer connection to Molag Bal.
You’re my favorite channel; this is my favorite game.
God I love this channel, and for a whole list of reasons. ^_^
Just like you reneging on the deal with Vile gives you the one of the strongest daedric weapon Umbra, doing the equivalent in Skyrim will grant you the strongest companion, Barbas himself.
Strongest companion 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh my god wow. No. Just no.
@@NoelCo-yd1gu No no, there's a logic here if we consider what makes a companion strong-- listen, an unkillable companion will, with enough time, take out any enemy in game. Next to a vulnerable companion who is a heavy hitter, even if you value the time it takes more, the risks mean the actual output you're getting is suspect to fluctuate wildly, and is not in the favor of the nonessential NPC. Also, you can have Barbas _and_ another companion as he fills the pet slot, not the follower slot. So if you get an essential follower and an essential pet, you have an unstoppable death machine. A slow unstoppable death machine, but you'll always have a leg up, on any difficulty. Who is to say that isn't a reasonable measure of strength?
@@NoelCo-yd1gu TL;DR
Barbas will out lifetime DPS any nonessential character by virtue of having 0% threats to the value of S, where the probability of dying must be taken into account for the lifetime stat of the seconds actually afforded, which will cut that number down. And Barbas' DPS will be equal to any other essential character by virtue of the nature of infinity.
Id always make terrible characters level wise, but on a recent play through I used efficient levelling and "One shot" Umbra on max difficulty with a poison I made...Felt great after always cheesing her with a nord using racial ability and back stepping her
"Say, do you have any drinking money for the week?"
Proceeds to hand the Nord well over 1,500 gold, enough to buy almost a month's worth of Cyrodiilic Brandy (assuming he'd drink 1 every day), a brew that is significantly more expensive than any of the other available beverages. Or alternatively, enough gold to buy a bottle of Ale every day for nearly a year.
Considering it's some weak cyrodiilic stuff, it won't last a month
Found your channel rather recently and since then I've been binging your videos.
Keep up the great work!
The best path to take if you want to keep the sword is to tell Umbra you won't kill her, then return to the shrine to complete the quest. After that, go back to the ruins, kill her, and take the sword.
This way, the sword remains weightless, and the quest will count as complete for the sake of Hermaeus Mora's quest.
I don’t think that’s true. Why would the sword remain weightless if the quest is completed? Does it say that on the wiki?
@@heswallowedburningcoals19 It's on the UESP page for the quest, at the bottom of the "Returning to the Shrine" section (right above the "Notes" section). I've also confirmed it by doing it myself.
these are such a highlight of my day whenever the appear!!
Wonderful!!! I was actually doing an Umbra build, this was perfect timing!!
i could watch/listen to these videos all day, love Oblivion lore so much.
how many daedric quests might be left now until hermaeus mora lays his eye upon you?
poor lenwin though. she got overwhelmed by that sword and tried to live afar from others as to not do any harm to them. and only her untimely death by your hands finally freed her from the blades grasp. unless her soul joined the others absorbed by the black edges of umbra.
It's always interesting how the chosen hero not just acquires the daedric artifact, but somehow also gets rid of any bad curse on it.
Barbus sounds very much like glarthir
What if it is Glathir...
@@HappyBeezerStudios IMHO Glarthir belonged to Sheogorath, not Clavicus Vile. 😉
3:36 "Read that note" Was that a note to yourself to read the note?
He said “we then note:”
Oh okay! ty~
umbra! she ran me through several times on my first playthrough. but i got her eventually and kept the sword. great upload DLD
Big Umbra fan love how the Sword looks
I love your videos!
I hope you find time for the Shimmering Isle if you can, and thank you for the time and effort you’ve put in so far.
BABE WAKE UP, NEW DARK LORE DASH VID
4:06 you have a key called Unofficial Oblivion Patch? lol
Its a PC mod. It appears as a key in your inventory to 1) show the mod is active and 2) you can activate it and edit some of the changes it makes.
i sadly gave my umbra away ): but i got goldbrand and now run that sword now, i miss my umbra
I have no idea what is meant by "strongest" sword, maybe referring to the highest base damage but that doesn't mean much. The proven highest dps sword in the game is Chillrend (assuming it is charged)
In all my years of playing oblivion, I've only obtained Umbra about once.
Ooo this one has a bit of meat on it, love to see your name on my feed.
Did anyone else do this as their first playthrough then get really disapointed when every dungeons didnt have a entirely unique armer set at the bottom? Like I didnt even talk to her just looked went I want that and five minutes later after a hard battle had the best armor and sword early on.
I always take the sword and just never finish the quest. It's the best reward: a very powerful, weightless sword.
*Am too drunk to comment*
Sacrifice your follower!!!
Kk
Can we keep our fingers crossed to see the Nerevarine encounter shrines to the Daedra?
As soon as I figure out how to voice Morrowind, absolutely 💯. Maybe I should wait for Skywind 🤔
Yo love your videos can't wait when you do morrowin
If you take his mask, you can help boost your personality well past 100, and at a certain amount you will be friendly with all enemy NPC's- no sword necessary.
around 300 personality the npc enemies won’t kill you
around 400 the creatures won’t kill you either unless you pull out a weapon. if you add a bit more they won’t kill you even if you pull out weapons.
Hey Dash hope you are doing good ! I don't know if you remember me but I'm the guy that used to help give you info and ideas for your Star Wars Dash Star videos. Haven't talked to you in a long time. Be good to chat with you sometime. Tried to send you a message on Facebook messenger.
UMBRA an the deal with the infernal floating city. clavicus vile reshaped his whole realm so i have heard nasty business
How did you get 1325 carry weight?
My dog's name is Umbra, and needless to say, this video got his attention.
"Feel the bite of Umbra"
"Umbra hungers"
Vile tells you that you won't find a better deal than bringing Umbra back to him.
Best sword in the game for a helmet you'll probably never wear? Nah
Also, I've never done this quest the normal way. I randomly found umbra way before I found this shrine quest. Only completed it once and regretted it.
Can’t believe you haven’t done a video on Unbra yet. As I wrap my 100% playthrough, this was a fun watch
Pay to be told to do something for him is not nice
I honestly could never return that sword to Clavicus, so i keep it and then use mods to unlock last daedra mission.
Please do paranoia!
I have always loved using the Clavicus Vile mask in Skyrim. It’s a shame it’s so dang ugly. Then again, the only armor set in-game I really like is the Nightingale Armor, so it’s probably a me problem.
I think thats by design. A mask that gives "charisma" that isnt easy to look at. Thats his whole deal. Or should i say "double deal " 😂
Can you imagine the effect on the economy if gods were removing physical money from our plane of existence like donating to clavicus? Like if all the tithe money disappeared into Jesus’ pockets?
Waaaaaait a minute! You're telling me it doesn't?!
In modern economics money is literally made from nothing else than promises and destroyed too at will.
Option 3- Kill Umbra, finish every single quest except hermaus mora, then give clavicus vile the sword so you can get all the artifacts and do the hermaeus mora quest, then give yourself the sword with console commands, and be slightly annoyed it now has weight, but you are done everything else anyway.
You rather kill someone, then pay 500G... Just to talk to a cosmic power?
That'd be more understandable in the current Real World.
But in games like these... 500G, is no different from 5C. XD
None the less. Awesome work, yet again. "DLD" Look forward to the next video.
Thank you! Was more a cheeky quip about Daedric requirements but I agree with you
I mean... no hurt, no kill. All love ❤️ 🤣
@@DarkLOREDash i was being cheeky myself. XD
And again, keep up the good work.
I prefer Dawnfang.
Chillrend is my preference, though a self-enchanted blade is usually best.
Viar
The strongest sword in the Aurbus you mean
Umbras weaker than an average un mosified glass sword
Base 28 vs base 20. 700 hp over 480. Idk what you are talking about? Not to mention ez soul trap.