Hi Max ... I'm a bit late to the party on this one. After fitting the seat under the rear tabs and getting the front tab in its slot, I discovered by chance that giving the front of the seat a firm thump right above the tab seats the tab correctly and the holes line up perfectly. Works every time with no elbow effort! Cheers from sunny Andalucía
Just installed those bolts. It does make the seat easier to install. It's easier, it seems to me, to line up the bolt holes. Thank for coming up with this Max. Keep them coming!
Max, I had referred my good friend Tom Dommel for a front end upgrade on his white Gold Wing Tour DCT, which you accomplished for him. He recently decided to trike his Wing and he has been thrilled with the ride! This wasn't his first GW trike but it was the first with the Traxxion Dynamics front end and he's been extremely pleased with the results! Kudos! I enjoy helping him spend his money when the results are positive. Thanks!
Nice one Max. Yep I bought the seat bolts. Good to know the holes can be drilled if they have been crushed. I think I may end up cutting that tab off too...
At about 5:35 you start the cut off. I wonder, if you'd chosen to cut half of the tab off first, and tried to put the seat on, if you'd have found enough of an improvement. You chose the full removal method, and you sound satisfied. Good Riding!
The seat bolts are a great solution to this problem. I would like to recommend using a magnetic Hex Key to remove and install the bolts so there is less chance they will be lost inside the GW. For example, Home Depot has the following set: Large 2 mm - 19 mm Metric Ball End Magnetic Hex Key Set (13-Piece) Model# 887
No, as it's not necessary. The older bike there were some bolts that had a taper, but it was because they were going through a backrest bracket, and then through long long spacers and the seat didn't line up well. This seat you can look right in the hole and see that it's lined up. There's thousands of bolts on a Goldwing, none have a taper. :)
@@Traxxion Thanks i will order them now...when are you going to come up with something on the honda backrest? It needs to come forward a 1/2 inch and looking at the back the swing plate could add a block of aluminum but probably need 4 bolts instead of 2. The original's to to bolt seat to and the others to mount to the back plate.
@@Traxxion I'm 6'2 with a 35 inseam and if you really look at the difference of the aftermarket backrest they are further up. There actually is alot of discussion about the 'STOCK" backrest to far back. It feels fine if I use the hwy pegs but otherwise its to far back. I know about the Helibar and I did sit on a bike that had the conversion but it also had a showchrome backrest that its lip was out about half inch. looking at the stock one you could CNC an aluminum block that would give it enough kick out to be effective but still have the styling that everyone loves. I looked it and what I see is 4 bolt holes. It would work and still pivot.
Took my seat off today noticed the collar is missing. I ordered your bolts today. Thanks every time I work on my wing I find another mistake done at the dealer when I had them install accessories.
Those bolts would be the thing to have if the bushings were gone. It looks like it would be hard to keep a separate bushing locked in that hole. I like the bolt idea...
I've removed my seat several times with your bolts and they work great. It's easier to see when the bolt holes line up. While I love the stainless it would have been nice if the bolts were magnetic. I dropped one into the bike one time because it slipped off the allen wrench. Otherwise, well worth the money.
You have a good point Manny, we're just used to going for highest quality materials here. Next run we'll probably do steel, and then have them zinc coated.
Hey Max, I love your channel and you are a wonderful guy to detect and fix all these Gold Wing probs, which is amazing. Unfortunately I have my Wing 2019 here in Belgium and am stuck with standard dealerships who know nothing about all the potential probs and fixes you presented. If I could, I would ride up to your shop tomorrow. But, may I suggest, that you apply with the Boeing Co to fix the 737 Max asap, because it seems they cannot get their things together for a long time and lose mils of dollars every day... You are needed there!
Even worse, I lost a lot of money on Boeing Stock!!!! There is something else we don't know about. That plane could have been flying by just turning MCAST off!!! Nothing wrong with that plane!
@@MikePonsAmerica1st that I would easily agree with. IF the MCAS system is the problem, TURN IT OFF until it's fixed. Airplanes have flown for over 100 years with out MCAS, sooooooo......
Thousands and thousands. For years and years. The covers and heaters take way worse abuse from fat people who can't get their leg over the seat without kicking it and dragging their boot across it. Your concern is unfounded. Honda does a much better job than you think.
Just bought a brand new 2018 model. The standard one that is also manual transmission. Anything I should look out for or hit the dealer up before I take it home in a week?
Yup yer always selling something,,,, BUT what you are selling is something most if not all GL 1800 wing owners can use to improve their bikes and make DIY projects better and easier for them at home. THANKS and keep up the tips n tricks for us. Da Ol Turtle
Thanks for the seat video. I cut tabs a few months ago and bought your bolts. On another issue, a dealership service manager here tells me the DCT doesn't have a starter solenoid. instead it has a combined starter-alternator called IGS. Are you aware of such a thing. Anyway my bike doesn't start. I don't know what is wrong.
Did YOU turn it to "on" or fill it with gas? 😁 ISG: In another weight-saving measure, all Gold Wing and Gold Wing Tour models feature integrated starter generator Systems (ISG), which integrates generators and starter motor functions into one component. This incorporation was able to achieve a 5.3 lb (2.4 kg) weight savings for the removal of wiring of starter motors and starter systems. The system reduces noise at startup.
Max ; Love your videos. However PLEASE fix your microphone/sound recordings. I have had to turn up all of my volume settings just to be able to hear you. Thanks.
The phone in your shop has the same ringer as my office phone. Since I listen under headphones, it sounds as if my phone is ringing. That said, the minor perturbation pales against the content of your posts. This is my first time here upon a referral from Cruiseman re: the sticking left saddlebag door. I'll subscribe now, revisit "ENVY," and settle in to play catch-up with your videos.
Hahaha . Love you mentioned that Lunatic Jesse James . Actually quite a good engineer . Great little Tip here . Probably classified as a Illegal Modification , however .
I Wish You Had an EASY Way to Re-Mount The Seat on My 2016......That is a ROYAL Pain In The Arse......The Dealership actually Cross Threaded one of my Seat Bolts at Assembly, First Time I Removed the Seat...Major Pain, I Thought The Bolt was going to BREAK. Cross-Threading would be Easy to Do, Poor Design in My Book.
Hi Max ... I'm a bit late to the party on this one.
After fitting the seat under the rear tabs and getting the front tab in its slot, I discovered by chance that giving the front of the seat a firm thump right above the tab seats the tab correctly and the holes line up perfectly. Works every time with no elbow effort!
Cheers from sunny Andalucía
I'll give that a go!
Just installed those bolts. It does make the seat easier to install. It's easier, it seems to me, to line up the bolt holes. Thank for coming up with this Max. Keep them coming!
Thanks Manny!
Max, I had referred my good friend Tom Dommel for a front end upgrade on his white Gold Wing Tour DCT, which you accomplished for him. He recently decided to trike his Wing and he has been thrilled with the ride! This wasn't his first GW trike but it was the first with the Traxxion Dynamics front end and he's been extremely pleased with the results! Kudos! I enjoy helping him spend his money when the results are positive. Thanks!
Thanks for the referral!
Enjoyed your remark about NO sparks! Yeah, that plastic takes all the fun out of grinding wheels and usually adds an unwanted smell.
Nice one Max. Yep I bought the seat bolts. Good to know the holes can be drilled if they have been crushed. I think I may end up cutting that tab off too...
Things should not be so difficult. but they are.
I do like your attitude. Fun to watch
Thanks!
At about 5:35 you start the cut off. I wonder, if you'd chosen to cut half of the tab off first, and tried to put the seat on, if you'd have found enough of an improvement. You chose the full removal method, and you sound satisfied. Good Riding!
That's a reasonable thing to suggest! I'll try it sometime!
Great tips Max. I have the new Honda 2018 Tour. That will the first thing I will do when I install the backrest. Craig from Louisiana.
Glad it was helpful!
I love simple fixes. Those are the most genius ideas.
The seat bolts are a great solution to this problem. I would like to recommend using a magnetic Hex Key to remove and install the bolts so there is less chance they will be lost inside the GW. For example, Home Depot has the following set: Large 2 mm - 19 mm Metric Ball End Magnetic Hex Key Set (13-Piece)
Model# 887
I really love your bolt idea and wish to order these but I noticed they are not tapered. Is there any plans to do that?
No, as it's not necessary. The older bike there were some bolts that had a taper, but it was because they were going through a backrest bracket, and then through long long spacers and the seat didn't line up well.
This seat you can look right in the hole and see that it's lined up.
There's thousands of bolts on a Goldwing, none have a taper. :)
@@Traxxion Thanks i will order them now...when are you going to come up with something on the honda backrest? It needs to come forward a 1/2 inch and looking at the back the swing plate could add a block of aluminum but probably need 4 bolts instead of 2. The original's to to bolt seat to and the others to mount to the back plate.
@@40fastback I haven't heard any complaints about this before. Are you a shorter rider? Do you have the Helibar riser kit on your bike yet?
@@Traxxion I'm 6'2 with a 35 inseam and if you really look at the difference of the aftermarket backrest they are further up. There actually is alot of discussion about the 'STOCK" backrest to far back. It feels fine if I use the hwy pegs but otherwise its to far back. I know about the Helibar and I did sit on a bike that had the conversion but it also had a showchrome backrest that its lip was out about half inch. looking at the stock one you could CNC an aluminum block that would give it enough kick out to be effective but still have the styling that everyone loves. I looked it and what I see is 4 bolt holes. It would work and still pivot.
@@40fastback This sounds great, I will look at it and try and get something going pretty quickly.
Took my seat off today noticed the collar is missing. I ordered your bolts today. Thanks every time I work on my wing I find another mistake done at the dealer when I had them install accessories.
I feel bad for Wing owners... if mechanics can't put the seat on, they shouldn't be working on a motorcycle.
Those bolts would be the thing to have if the bushings were gone. It looks like it would be hard to keep a separate bushing locked in that hole. I like the bolt idea...
I've removed my seat several times with your bolts and they work great. It's easier to see when the bolt holes line up. While I love the stainless it would have been nice if the bolts were magnetic. I dropped one into the bike one time because it slipped off the allen wrench. Otherwise, well worth the money.
That's interesting... maybe next run we'll do zinc plated steel. Thank you.
@Joseph Marton Are there 5mm allen wrenches made out of these special magnets?
You have a good point Manny, we're just used to going for highest quality materials here. Next run we'll probably do steel, and then have them zinc coated.
Hey Max, I love your channel and you are a wonderful guy to detect and fix all these Gold Wing probs, which is amazing. Unfortunately I have my Wing 2019 here in Belgium and am stuck with standard dealerships who know nothing about all the potential probs and fixes you presented. If I could, I would ride up to your shop tomorrow. But, may I suggest, that you apply with the Boeing Co to fix the 737 Max asap, because it seems they cannot get their things together for a long time and lose mils of dollars every day... You are needed there!
Even worse, I lost a lot of money on Boeing Stock!!!! There is something else we don't know about. That plane could have been flying by just turning MCAST off!!! Nothing wrong with that plane!
@@Traxxion The MAX is great plane and easy to fly. It's all politics just like the shutdown
@@MikePonsAmerica1st that I would easily agree with. IF the MCAS system is the problem, TURN IT OFF until it's fixed. Airplanes have flown for over 100 years with out MCAS, sooooooo......
Goldwing Guru! Thanks a ton. I don't have the new GW, but a lot of what you teach applies to my '15.
I need to do some more vids on the previous bike...
Max McAllister & Traxxion Dynamics that would be great!
Honda cars are the same way. Just a pain in the butt to work on.
Thanks Max, I will do that next time I take it off
Can the passenger rear back rest be removed on that model?
Yes, 6 screws hold it on from inside the trunk lid. Tour models also have an electrical cord to the heated part.
@@Traxxion thank you!
Looks like you forgot the seat heater plug
Didn't bother with it for video.
How many times you gonna elbow that seat before you tear the cover? Or ruin the seat heater?
Thousands and thousands. For years and years. The covers and heaters take way worse abuse from fat people who can't get their leg over the seat without kicking it and dragging their boot across it.
Your concern is unfounded. Honda does a much better job than you think.
How about free shipping on those seat bolts....
We got that working now!
Just bought a brand new 2018 model. The standard one that is also manual transmission. Anything I should look out for or hit the dealer up before I take it home in a week?
Not sure what you mean... they will do all Honda required inspections I'm sure.
Yup yer always selling something,,,, BUT what you are selling is something most if not all GL 1800 wing owners can use to improve their bikes and make DIY projects better and easier for them at home. THANKS and keep up the tips n tricks for us. Da Ol Turtle
Super max technique 😂😂
:)
One minute is all I could take
OOPS, your bolts are free shipping, just ordered them... ty...
thanks for the video. i like my ctx1300 seat much better with the quick key release.
The new Goldwing looks like a bit of a nightmare when they over engineer the seat and under engineer the shocks.
Funny observation!
Хорошее решение данной проблемы !!!
Yep! :-)
Thanks for the suspension max, and hope my gorilla friend is doing well, lmao.
I hope so too! Luckily it's been a mild winter!
Thanks for the seat video. I cut tabs a few months ago and bought your bolts.
On another issue, a dealership service manager here tells me the DCT doesn't have a starter solenoid. instead it has a combined starter-alternator called IGS. Are you aware of such a thing.
Anyway my bike doesn't start. I don't know what is wrong.
Did YOU turn it to "on" or fill it with gas? 😁
ISG:
In another weight-saving measure, all Gold Wing and Gold Wing Tour models feature integrated starter generator Systems (ISG), which integrates generators and starter motor functions into one component. This incorporation was able to achieve a 5.3 lb (2.4 kg) weight savings for the removal of wiring of starter motors and starter systems. The system reduces noise at startup.
Ck your key and make sure it is snapped closed properly? I was left stranded for hours until I realized my key wasn’t closed properly!
Is that your bike or a cringing customer's bike that you're beating the crap out of?
Max ; Love your videos. However PLEASE fix your microphone/sound recordings. I have had to turn up all of my volume settings just to be able to hear you. Thanks.
better fix your speakers.
Fantastic
Like your video's Max , In this way the bike weighs a few grams less 😜👍
More top speed!
The phone in your shop has the same ringer as my office phone. Since I listen under headphones, it sounds as if my phone is ringing. That said, the minor perturbation pales against the content of your posts. This is my first time here upon a referral from Cruiseman re: the sticking left saddlebag door. I'll subscribe now, revisit "ENVY," and settle in to play catch-up with your videos.
would you sell me that seat tab? turtle
I didn't know it had any value, and I threw it out. How much do you want to pay? I'll "find" you as many as you want!
Hahaha . Love you mentioned that Lunatic Jesse James . Actually quite a good engineer .
Great little Tip here . Probably classified as a Illegal Modification , however .
I Wish You Had an EASY Way to Re-Mount The Seat on My 2016......That is a ROYAL Pain In The Arse......The Dealership actually Cross Threaded one of my Seat Bolts at Assembly, First Time I Removed the Seat...Major Pain, I Thought The Bolt was going to BREAK. Cross-Threading would be Easy to Do, Poor Design in My Book.
Check out my videos on cutting the seat tab off and our Super Seat Bolt Kit
Sorry Max, you may fix the 737, but i will never fly in one, EVER>>>>
Hi , i really need your help 🙂, I need to find out where is the immo located?
Luv U Man...:-)
Can you please spend $30 for a lapel microphone?
I have one on.
Honda cars are the same way. Over engineered. I do some re-engineered on many Honda cars.