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In this video conversation, N.T. Wright considers what it means to be an image bearer of God. He suggests that what the book of Genesis and the apostle Paul mean by humans reflecting the image of God is less a static picture and more of a "creative, dynamic" proposition.
I Like This outlook on the Image of God. He Spoke more of our function as the Image. I have added another perspective to it. I's more like his perspective but with a different twist.
I once saw a documentary about an artist who painted a beautiful abstract painting on a wall, You could not tell what it was when the lens was focused on it. However, the camera started to zoom out, revealing more of these paintings. They were not identical but they were compatible in that they were painted in the same style and sort of intergrated and separated by small margins like ceramic tyles on a kitchen wall. When the camera stopped zooming and revealing all of these paintings, a picture of the artist himself was revealed. He painted a picture of himself by painting smaller abstract paintings that did not look like much individually and they made no sense outse of the big picture. Somehow I felt that was telling the story of God's Image.
Incredible insight, I've never thought of it from that angle, that makes the most sense.
Oh pardon the pun
Wow, totally love this 💖
Excellent.
Beautiful
I like the angled mirror bit, but, if, as Wright seems to be saying, to be in the image of God means to put the world back to rights and reflect God into the world and to "REcapture" the image and to "REcover" the image and to bring Gods "healing, restorative, justice" to it THEN, what did it mean to be in the image of God BEFORE the fall, when there was nothing that needed to be REcaptured or Recovered cause nothing had yet been lost or soiled...?
@countrymusicpride Yes, and my answer is that there are 3 key places in the biblical story in which what it means to be fully human is shown - Gen 1&2 speaks to us a hint of what God's original intention for humanity was before the fall, and Rev 21&22 give us a vision of that intention fulfilled. Of course, the last and most important is the life of Jesus himself, as the scripture says he is the "perfect image of the Father. . ." etc... (cont.)
@buppus i see, but wright is saying we need "re" capture this, but that couldnt have been the meaning in gen 1 & 2 because there was nothing to "re" capture, because it had already been captured... you follow me brother?
@countrymusicpride So, while we don't know what the world really looked like pre-fall, what Wright means by 're'capturing, is that the present agenda of Christ's followers is to reach forward to God's end, in which that original intention is already being fulfilled and will finally be fulfilled.
You had a great mother. She relected God to you.
@countrymusicpride For that, look to Genesis 1&2 (as well as its chiasm in Rev 21&22) - by God's loving and outpouring, creative nature, we were made to share in that life and participate in that outpouring and creative nature as his image bearers - to cultivate the garden which in Rev 21-2 becomes fulfilled in the city - the New Jerusalem - where the end and purpose of creation is met in the marriage of heaven and earth - of God and his people through Jesus Christ.
Ex. 19, Revelation, Paul
I like his analogy BUT we can only reflect the "imago dei" to the world Only after we have an on going relationship with God. However, I do not understand what he means by "re-capture" We start to reflect that image as soon as we are born again through the power of Christ who lives in us and enables us and sanctifies us day by day. Christ recaptured that image for us by dying on the cross so that we do not have work for it. The "recapturing" begins by simply accepting that personal efforts and our righteousness is nothing but filthy rugs. I however, understand that the principle of sanctification and justification by faith enabled by the power of the Holy Spirit maybe hard for N.T. Wright to grasp at this point at least as reflected in his writings in "After You Believe" and "What St. Paul Really Said". He is a great writer though only that I do not find a works salvation theology in Paul's writings even with an eastern worldview bias.
Royal priesthood, holy Nation. Image bearer of The Triune God of the BIBLE. AMEN
What does it mean that we are created in the image of God, we cannot understand this unless we accept the deity of Jesus as God.
As humans we continually put our limitations on God, we imagine time in a linear order as passed, present and future.
But God exist in the past, present and future at the same time !
When God created the heavens and the Earth Jesus already existed and another point of time, so he already existed from the beginning , In the beginning was the word and the Word was made flesh. When God created the heavens and the Earth and formed man Out of the dust of the Earth, JESUS created us in His image !
Because Jesus has two arms and two legs and two hands each with five fingers and two feet each with five toes so do we.
We struggle to understand this because to us this is like putting the cart before the horse as my grandmother would say.
Which came first the chicken or the egg, the correct answer is neither, the word came first when Jesus spoke it into life !
John the Apostle how do unique understanding of time, in 1st John 1-14 he wrote In the Beginning was the word and the Word was made flesh, and all things were created by Him.
This clearly angered some of the Angels who were made above man, and were eternal with special abilities that made them appear as gods to men . God made man a little lower than the angels from the beginning, but someday we will be like the angels and be with God .
Demonic imposters can also be image bearers...
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