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Jason Vong Sony Zeiss 24 1.8. Lacking OSS is a pain for my shaky hand, when it is paired with my a6300. I ended up using the 16-70 a lot more, even in low light.
he is misleading people with his video. People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example Sony50mm E 32° angle of view. Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view. Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.
@@Ben-rz9cf Racism is out of intention , being confused not. So this kind of accusation makes no actual sense. (besides the obvious joky character of the OP, which makes it even + inapropriate x) )
@@poquerRafa I am totally doing that and the people i take portraits of were aware of that before me. Still correcting this. I love the lens till this day since it's on my camera daily. :) Thanks for the replies.
Don't worry, 50mm is great. I've used a 50 for 15yrs more than any lens for street and portrait work. It's a great focal length for composing and the restrictions make for better shots when you have to work through it.
I found the part about you not fully understanding crop sensors dope. Would love to see a video about your journey as a photographer from beginning to now. Like about your first camera, your first big break, your inspiration or what led to you becoming a photographer. I think it'd be dope.
I really hated my 50mm on a crop sensor, until I moved to a full-frame and it was awesome. Then, I went back to a crop and I love the 50 mm now. It's essentially the portrait lens that we all need. Terrible for street and general use, though. I like my 23 mm most for that.
For portraits I like to still stick to a 56mm to 85mm f/1.4 or f 1.8 crop or not. Regardless of having to move back sometimes, the compression plus the large aperture are hard to beat when working together for separation. People can also start looking a little unnatural if you happen to get too close with those wider focal lengths.
This guy is a beginner. If you buy a lens designed for a cropped sensor the focal length marked will be accurate. Only when you mis-match a full-frame lens with a cropped sensor will you encounter problems.
This is SO TRUE! People used to shout about how usable and versatile the 50mm focal length was but I found I never had enough space for me to back up and was only really good in wide open spaces or controlled environments. Having switched to a full frame years later, I now see what people were talking about! And properly understood that I was actually at a roughly 80mm focal length on my APSC!
Would have been nice to have this video when I started a year ago. But I love your humor and knowledge. Always talking about important stuff that we all need to be aware of. Thanks dude
@@andrebauer777 Are you fucking kidding me?! My lens is DX. That means it's built for a cropped sensor. My camera is a cropped sensor. So if I put my cropped sensor lens on my cropped sensor body, what the fuck is the focal length?? OF COURSE ITS THE CORRECT FOCAL LENGTH, NO MULTIPLICATION. I can't believe how fuckin stupid people are
TIPS: If you have taken images on your kit-lense and you want to get a prime lens - your first job is to take your image library and sort it on focal length. Now - beginners have a tendency to use zooms either full wide or full long (depending on the kit-lense zoom range), so expect that most images are grouped around those two focal ranges. But also take note if a lot of images that you like are grouping around either 35 or 50 mm full-frame equivalent (23 or 35 mm APS-C). Then start to consider if the topics of such groupings vary (landscapes/arcitecture/friends around cafe-table typically group towards more 35 mm. More intimate street photography and portraits are probably grouping more around 50 mm equivalent as a rule of thumb). Now it is time to ask "why do I want a prime" while looking at your images. Do you like to get up close to the "action" while getting in some wider context as well? 35 mm is your first frame. Do you like to isolate people/subjects - the 50 mm is your friend (also because it will compress depth of field more and get you a blurrier background). When learning with a kit-lens we are usually not conscious about where we place the zoom-ring. But many will have an instinctive preference - indicating if one likes the wider look or the more closed in look. So trust your own catalogue of images. And remember, if you are getting a new lens and not a new sensor-size, one does not need to convert the millimetres. The only reason why we use 35 and 50 mm "equivalent" is that we grew up with pretty much only one "sensor" - 35mm film. Since the sensor on my Fuji is APS-C with 1.5 crop, it just means that 23 mm is equivalent to a 35 mm analogue camera/full-frame digital camera. Personally, I am leaning to 35 mm. But not totally. Because my first camera (for 10 years) had only one lens - a 40 mm 2.8. By shooting with that alone, the field of view became internalized. I did not really have to look through the viewfinder since I knew what the lens/camera/film was seeing. So I guess I can blame childhood for my "choice".
This guy is giving terrible advice and the title is just click bait. A 50mm should absolutely be a first or second lens purchase, they are so versatile. 50mm on a full frame is an all around good focal length, it provides just enough compression to be used for portraits and is neither a wide or telephoto focal length. When used in on a crop sensor camera it is somewhere around 75 to 80mm's which is, you guessed it, perfect for close up portraits. Also, most beginning photographers want cheap, a nifty 50 is super cheap. If you wanted the aspect ratio of a 50mm on a crop sensor you are going to have to get a 30 or 35mm lens and those are expensive because you need more glass to make them, so it is cheaper to use a kit lens. However you should still get a 50mm, there are zero down sides to it. In the end get the lens you want and can afford, and BUY USED! I rarely buy new lenses, keep glass in circulation :)
im asian myself and i got confused by 2 different videos about a7s3 (1 was from Potato Jet and second one was from Jason Vong and i got confused for a second before realizing that they were different people :) )
have a 30mm 1.4 sigma on my canon 1100d, its wicked ! A bit expensive for a 2nd lens especially if you do it as a hobby and you're like 16 or so, but definetly worth !
50mm focal length on APS-C it *is* 50mm. The reason you multiply is because you want to see which focal length you would have to use on a 35mm camera to get the same result. It's like saying that 50mm on FF is actually 32mm on a Hasselblad.
When I started photography I got a kit lens and 50mm and most of the time it was difficult to get the frame I want with the 50mm. Therefore I went to 35mm on a crop body and it felt perfect for portraits. As for what tutorials I would really want to see "how to pose a model"'. Keep making great videos!
I remember when I first bought my Canon T3i people told me the same thing, get a 50mm. I got and was like “wtf it’s so zoomed in”. Now that I know what I’m doing, I enjoy it on crop cameras for that “portrait” look, though I do love my 40mm a little bit more lol
If they wrote anything else but the true value of the focal length on a lens... they would straight up lie. Because a 50mm lens always remains a 50mm lens. The glass is shaped to have it's focal point 50mm from the center of the principal plane. Full frame or not, what you mean is that the angle of view is different when you put different sensors behind the lens.
John Smith They’re not marked with full frame focal lengths, but the actual focal length of the lens (physical dimension which will not change). What people mean when they say ‘full frame equivalent’ is they’re referring to the FOV that you will get if you’re using FF cameras. So the marking in mm is always correct, only the FOV will change according to what sensor size it’s being paired with.
@@saifaldin_ what I meant is why you can't place notes on lens with mount which can be used only on aps-c bodies with ff equivalent, and how's that correct if aps-c lens marked as 50mm isn't gonna be 50mm , etc etc you know what I mean
John Smith They can’t label it like that; that would be wrong. The only ways they can label it correctly are: A) Label with FL (in mm) which they are doing now) B) Label with FOV (in degs) in which case they would have to put both FF & APSC numbers for each lens. C) Put all of the above Sony uses the same mount for their FF and APS-C mirrorless bodies. So even though the lenses were designed for a particular sensor size, they can still be mounted & used on other sensor sized bodies. I understand that the current way of labeling in FL can be confusing, but I can’t imagine a better way to label them (unless you don’t mind super long names for each lens)
The lens casts a projection onto the sensor. A FF lens casts a larger circle, but for a given focal length e.g. 50mm, the magnification remains the same. So lets say there's a dog in the centre of the image; in each case the dog is the same height on the sensor. There's no [sensor] focal length; there's just focal length. Because the FF lens needs to cast a larger circle than the APS-C lens to cover the larger sensor, the FF lens will usually be wider across. (modern lenses are more complicated internally than the basic single lens optics model which is used to designate their focal length).
There is no FF focal length or APS-C focal length. The lens has only its actual focal length which is not changed by the sensor size. You just should understand that with a smaller sensor one must use shorter focal lenghts. It seems that you have not understood this. I think you should first understand the basics, then you can use the crop factor and equivalences as tools. If you jump directly to them without understanding the basics you get confused.
I still love my 50mm. I bought it for my t3i about 6 yrs ago. Still use it on my now 5dm4. Love the bokeh that’s always given me. I don’t regret buying it
It is honestly good on either. When i was out shooting in monkey forest in bali, i used my 50 1.4 on a crop sensor and it was actually the perfect focal length. Put enough distance between me and the monkeys that i wasn't scaring them off and still got some really creamy gorgeous bokeh, and some of the best shots of my career
Where was this video when I bought my a6400 lol that was the first lens I bought after watching hours of TH-cam .. then my son's kindergarten classroom graduation I was pushing myself against the wall for a shot 😂😂 Was going to say a macro extension vid should be next but guess your on it already , so how about some water photography tips since it's summer
Literally ordered the sony 50mm 1.8 last night...just changed my order to the sigma 30mm 1.4. I didn't know I needed this video, but Jason Vong did...what is this sorcery?
alphaxfang No image stabilization! I have the 18-105 with oss for those cases. The Sigma lenses is primarily for photos and video work on a tripod only.
@@EthanChlebowski well then that's a good choice for your set up... Ah and one thing to consider too... The bokeh ball, personally i don't like sigma bokeh ball... Kind of busy looking... But if it fit with your taste then go with that lens, it's one fast sharp lens for sure...
Great vid! Thanks :) The number on the lens is usually the “true” focal length (on on super zooms or compact cameras you many times will see the FF equiv. field of view. What you mean is that a 50mm lens on an APS-C body gives you a 75mm FF equivalent field of view. This point is that we use the FF equivalent field of view as a reference to compare the field of view on bodies with ither sensor sizes.
he is misleading people with his video. People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example Sony50mm E 32° angle of view. Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view. Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.
50mm is almost always better on full frame. On a crop sensor, it's basically an 85. Not terrible for portraits still, but you're going to have to have a bit of space in your studio. I would recommend for everyone to get a 50mm AND a 35mm.... Both are really close to the human perceptual range of 42mm, but one is slightly telephoto and thus very flattering for facial features on portraits and the other is slightly wide angle and thus you're able to get really close to your subject and shoot a bunch of different stuff in tight spaces. I use the 2 of these primes for like, 90% of my photography.
Long story short, A 50mm is the best starting focal distance for all-around shooting. Just know the crop factor of your camera, and what you want to shoot. If you're using a cropped APSC sensor, get a 35mm instead. If your focus is landscapes go about 1/2 that.
As a beginner still learning how to use my Sony NEX 7 that came with the Sony 18-55mm kit lens after watching a few TH-camrs talk about lenses if I decide to upgrade from my kit lens it will be for that Sigma 30mm F1.4 Contemporary DC DN Lens for Sony E or the Sony😊 35mm 1.8 because I heard that two of those lenses would each put out better quality videos the the Sony 18-mm kit lens
He shouldn't have made it at all. Totally inaccurate information.. No mention of the fact that you buy lenses made FOR cropped sensors, and their focal lengths will be true.
I find myself going back to using a 35mm equivalent lens (that would be 23mm on an APS-C camera) for documentary images. Anything wider starts showing distortion, especially in faces near the edge of the image, and anything longer does not always let you get close enough. If I carry one lens it’s that one, not a 50mm.
I came to a lot of these came conclusions when I started doing photography 😅. One thing to note is the crop factor on Canon is actually 1.6. On Sony it's 1.5. However if you're using a Micro 4/3s system, it's a 2x crop. Also the Canon M50 w/ the 50mm on a speed booster is pretty sweet. It gives you an equivalent focal length of 57mm.
He doesn't even mention that if you buy a cropped-sensor specific lens, the focal length it is rated for will be true. Only when you put a full-frame lens on a cropped sensor will the issues arise.
@@johnmcard3116 Nope. Focal length is a physical spec of the lens. And it's a measurement of how the light is being bent to be focused. A cropped sensor lens has the exact same focal length as a full frame version if they have the same numbers. A 50mm FF lens on FF body has the same 50mm focal length of a APS-C lens on APS-C body. . The thing that changes is the field of view. The optics behave the same. Field of view is cropped as long as you're not on full frame, so just multiply it. APS-C lenses are just made smaller so there's no light "wastage", but the field of view is still effectively cropped. That is why crop sensor kit lenses have a different range (18-55), so that it provides approximately the same field of view (after the crop factor)as a 24-70 kit lens on a FF body. Check out Gerald Undone's video on crop sensors.
Holy Shit I'm so sorry but I literally thought Potato Jet and Jason Vong were the same person and just had an apocalyptic inception moment where I realized you are two different people. The resemblance is insane on so many levels!
i made the "mistake" to buy an 85mm on my 750D and boy the 130mm hit hard , BUT i actually find it pretty interesting it give an other perspective on what you are shooting although i would not recommend it either :') my 85 is a yongnuo , so the price is way cheaper than a canon or anything else so it wasnt too bad of a mistake :D
If the lenses are designed for an APSC camera like the a6500 or a6400, why would they still be mislabeled? Shouldn’t they list the true focal length if they are designed for that platform? And it not, then what’s the point of buying those if they are cropped anyway?
The true focal length is the number written on them, period. The meaning of the number (how wide the field of view is) depends on the sensor/film size. Hence the confusion.
rsmith02 i just think it would be easier for consumers to know which is which so you don’t have that confusion. You can’t scale up an APSC lens but you can scale down a full frame lens.
I Just bought the Lumix G7 with the Kit lens 14-42mm , and then I bought a 25mm Lens for Blur in the Background AND...then I bought the 45-150mm Lens, so THAT's pretty much all the lenses I own. These are what I use for my Videotography.
Best thing I've told newbies getting a crop camera is to start with a 24mm or 35mm lens. Crop factor is never well understood by those starting out (including some pros). 50mm crop lenses are not a smartphone PoV, and as such, not beginner friendly. 50mm lenses make perfect sense... if your camera is full-frame. Unlikely with a newbie looking for budget cameras.
Paul Blank wider lenses are closer to how we see the world, so we're not as taken aback when we realize we're too close to get what we want in frame. It's also not long enough in situations where you'd reach for a zoom. I only use my 50 when I have no other choice due to low light. 50 can be great if you have the time and space to experiment, but if your subjects are people they probably aren't patient enough. I havnt used one on a full frame though.
When I finally understood crop factor I went to my local camera store talking to the sales rep guy about lenses. I brought up crop factor on apsc lenses and sadly he argued. I was like dude you’ve been shooting longer than I’ve been alive & you don’t get the crop factor?!?
I’d love to see more tutorials on portrait photography! 😁😁 I Love the 50mm focal length, perfect for portraits. But I really agree that 50mm is too tight, so 35mm or 24mm is good for all around.
I own the Sigma 30mm 1.4 and it's become my go to lens for my Canon 80D. Sadly my "Nifty fifty" has become the redheaded stepchild that's been ignored and soon will start to worry because it's taking up space at the orphanage. Lol
Depends on what you're shooting,I think both of those are great for b roll type of shots, and even interview type of videos. Only thing is when it comes to video work if you are using a mic mounted on the camera or getting audio in camera as well from your subject you might be a little too far from them , unless you use a lav . Ultimately comes down to what you're filming
50 is not wide enough, and is not portrait enough. When analysing my shots with the 24/70 : I get 55% shot a 70mm and wanting more, the 45% of other shots are between 24mm and 35mm. So 50mm never fits. Most used lens = 85mm. Then I analysed my shots with a 70/300 : most were at 300mm including macro shots. I never go out without my 85mm. If I had only one : 85mm. Might try a good zoom like the new tamron g2 35-150 f2-2.8, or else a classic 70-200, but I prefer a lighweight 85mm f1.4 like my sigma hsm. (with all its known defects : longitudinal ca, no stab, but i love it, and it is LIGHTWEIGHT) so for me than answer is always 85mm.
Here's a really big rabbit hole, I am a travel photographer who uses a 75mm (150mm) on a Micro four/thirds. I will also add that I also cary a 17mm (34mm) for some wide angle shots. On top of that I am buying a full frame because I am starting to do more portraits locally.
No. They recommend the nifty 50 because it’s literally a better lens than the kit lens. It’s sharper and let’s in more light. Also, if you’re doing a portrait then you wanna use a “85” and it’s close to that.
Bro I'm using a 50mm on a Nikon D5200, but all across the kit lens and the 55-200mm, i always get blurry - not sharp edges and around the subject especially on group photos. People on the sides of the frames are then blurry. Any thoughts ? 🥹
The last camera I bought (and still have)...a Sony HX9V travel zoom...is broken. I have my iPhone 6plus for everyday use, so for a new camera I splurged and got a Sony A7III (many years ago I used a Minolta XD11 35mm SLR). For the lens I chose the FE 24-105mm f/4 because I wanted higher quality glass than the standard kit lens, but didn't want the higher price and weight of the "pro" 24-70mm f/2.8. I don't think I miss the extra stop of light, as the ISO performance of the camera is crazy good.
50mm is always 50mm. The confusion comes from describing field of view by a focal length on a particular sized sensor such as 35mm. But yeah. I had a 50mm on a canon rebel. Way too tight!
I ran into this recently, too, on an APS-C camera. Everyone said nifty fifty, nifty fifty was actually pretty cheap, so I got one. Stunning, stunning bokeh and pretty good for tripod low light / long exposures / etc. It's been changing my game for doing IR photography without a sensor filter conversion, because of the huge light influx. But yeah, I was really stumped as to why it felt like I was always zoomed in; why is everyone going nuts over this thing? Every time I went out with it, it eventually ended up in my bag and stayed there, because it's too shaky (no IS) for macro-ish shots, and it was too close in for everything else. But yeah, now it makes a lot more sense. 35mm equivalents of the same lens are ridiculously expensive in comparison, so... back to the kit lens for now. :D It's actually not bad! Just sort of a bard lens though, Jack of all trades, master of none... Edit: Forgot to say, my spouse calls this lens my "nifty eighty" now... lol.
Great, now I need to buy a speedbooster for my canon M50 before I even decide which lens I need cause I want full frame. Sounds like a whole lot of money outta my pockets 😰
I got a 50mm 1.8 straight after I got my Batis 18 2.8 and used it with an nd filter on my 6500 knowing fine well it would be a 75mm and I love it for the price! Less than a 6th of the cost of the Batis… I may have been lucky with an excellent copy because focus is lightning quick and that creamy buttery boka boom is so creamy I could put it on my potatoes. For the money I'd say whip your money out and sing don't worry, Be a happy chappy…. I know I know, Full frame... I'm getting there and will go full frame soon with all the trimmings.... Mashed potato anyone? Coffee? Have a Banana.
Even the Field of View of different sensor off course, different.. The Angel of View would be the same.. that's why.. 50mm still a 50mm.. everywhere... the rendering between background and foreground still the same between all sensor even you coudn't get the same field of view where a crop sensor will make you step further from the subject... so 50mm is 50mm.. 35mm on an aps-c sensor is different than the 50mm in 35mm sensor. Cmiiw
Love your videos, but I will have to disagree. For the price, there is nothing prettier than a 50mm. You have to know when to use it, and how, to get the most out of it, but the 50 is the best thing you can buy as a beginner. You will get used to something very important in Cinematography... MOVE YOUR FAT ASS TO GET A GOOD IMAGE!!! Zooms and wides are awesome, but once you learn that all you have to do is zoom in and out, you will have a lot to deconstruct when you get a prime. I used 50mm on a T3i for many years too.
This or the Sony/Zeiss 55mm Sonnar T* 1.8 ?? I can't decide, I need a fast lens for taking pictures inside of family and pets, so AF has to be great but I don't want to compromise on low light/bokeh... Thoughts? I have an A7C with kit lens on its way!
i bought 50mm f1.8 for my Sony a7 III and i returned it back because it was neither too close or too wide and i didn't liked that. im considering to buy a 105mm or 85mm for street photography and i also have 24mm.
What?? 😢 I got the lenses you recommended & it’s true it’s too close. @jason Vong how can I change the auto focus to focus on everyone instead of the only people in front of it? Please help
What is a lens you keep getting recommended but when you actually got it, you were kinda disappointed? 😔
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Jason Vong Sony Zeiss 24 1.8. Lacking OSS is a pain for my shaky hand, when it is paired with my a6300. I ended up using the 16-70 a lot more, even in low light.
Sigma 18-35 1.8 nobody every told me that thing is heavy
Hey Jason how come students always get the discounts? What about us broke as f parents who pay for their kids college etc etc lol
@@HueyPProductions YEP! It's heavy hahaha!
@@mr.whoneedsit7856 Use your kids student ID to apply 😂😂😂
This should be a series for beginners!
“You’re doing it Vong!”
What the hell is “Vong” with you?
im the 100th like
A funnier, and actually educational series, could be called Vong is Wong!
Sum Ting Vong
he is misleading people with his video.
People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example
Sony50mm E 32° angle of view.
Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view.
Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.
"Moral of the story is GET A FULL FRAME CAMERA" LMAO I fell out of my chair 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Welp I followed what he said LOL
And pay the price of a car.
@@mich722 you can get a full frame a7ii for around $600 used. That's right there with APS-C cameras and has IBIS.
@@mich722 no that's hasselblad and medium format Leica
I use a 500mm on an apsc sensor and am very happy with it. My neighbor isn't though.
Trips and Clicks 🙀
Sounds like a great investment! 😂😂
Adapt it on a micro4/3! Then have fun!
Put it on M43 with 2x converter. You'll start seeing the shape of your neighbor voice
500mm on aps c street photography are for chumps, 800mm f8 on m43 is where it's at.
OMG I thought Potato jet was you and vise versa for months now 😂😂😂 I’m so confused rn 🤷🏼♂️
racist
@@Ben-rz9cf i made the same mistake and im Asian soooo
😂😂😂 Me too! I had to search if it was true that they are different youtubers ahahahah
@@Ben-rz9cf Racism is out of intention , being confused not. So this kind of accusation makes no actual sense. (besides the obvious joky character of the OP, which makes it even + inapropriate x) )
me too..
This has been an emotional carousel, being a beginner and having ordered the 50mm 1.8 for an apsc...
That lens is just great. Amazing value for money. A great buy, dont worry. But in the begining might stand way closer than you have to
@@poquerRafa I am totally doing that and the people i take portraits of were aware of that before me. Still correcting this. I love the lens till this day since it's on my camera daily. :) Thanks for the replies.
Don't worry, 50mm is great. I've used a 50 for 15yrs more than any lens for street and portrait work. It's a great focal length for composing and the restrictions make for better shots when you have to work through it.
Unless if you're not on fullframe... Lol I came from analog an never use cropped sensors
@@Guuliann I'm on a crop, but I find the 50 (80mm when you factor in the crop) really nice for portraits. Looking to upgrade to FF soon tho. :)
I found the part about you not fully understanding crop sensors dope. Would love to see a video about your journey as a photographer from beginning to now. Like about your first camera, your first big break, your inspiration or what led to you becoming a photographer. I think it'd be dope.
whenever im about to forget, jv here brings out potatojet again🤣
damnmit! im perpetuating this stereotype!!
I really hated my 50mm on a crop sensor, until I moved to a full-frame and it was awesome. Then, I went back to a crop and I love the 50 mm now. It's essentially the portrait lens that we all need. Terrible for street and general use, though. I like my 23 mm most for that.
Do you use a 23mm on APS-C ?
For portraits I like to still stick to a 56mm to 85mm f/1.4 or f 1.8 crop or not. Regardless of having to move back sometimes, the compression plus the large aperture are hard to beat when working together for separation. People can also start looking a little unnatural if you happen to get too close with those wider focal lengths.
I'd like a tutorial showing start to finish of planning, filming, and editing a TH-cam video.
Sigma 30mm f1.4 for my APSC SONY A6400🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
our lord and savior for Sony APSC... SIGMA!!!
Sigma all the way with a6400. Best combo ever
Sad that Sony doesnt make faster than 1.8 for APS-C and more sad that not stabilized
@@charlien4153 actually sony apsc 35mm and 50mm are OSS
@@charlien4153 They wouldn't be able to sell FF lens and cameras otherwise....
Maybe more "what not to do as a beginner" videos
This guy is a beginner. If you buy a lens designed for a cropped sensor the focal length marked will be accurate. Only when you mis-match a full-frame lens with a cropped sensor will you encounter problems.
I agree Jason. The Sony APS-C Cameras are great! But, you do have to buy the lens that’s right for you.
This is SO TRUE! People used to shout about how usable and versatile the 50mm focal length was but I found I never had enough space for me to back up and was only really good in wide open spaces or controlled environments. Having switched to a full frame years later, I now see what people were talking about! And properly understood that I was actually at a roughly 80mm focal length on my APSC!
Would have been nice to have this video when I started a year ago. But I love your humor and knowledge. Always talking about important stuff that we all need to be aware of. Thanks dude
85 on a APS-C, why not? The recommendation a portrait lens is 85mm to 135mm
I think 85mm on APS-C is too much tele for many situations. The sigma 56mm 1.4 is smaller, faster and offers a good focal lenght I think.
Truth
If the 85 lens is made for a cropped sensor, it will be an 85.
WhatCheif Network: no. if the label says 85mm it is 85mm. and the field of view is like 120mm on an apsc.
@@andrebauer777 Are you fucking kidding me?!
My lens is DX. That means it's built for a cropped sensor. My camera is a cropped sensor. So if I put my cropped sensor lens on my cropped sensor body, what the fuck is the focal length?? OF COURSE ITS THE CORRECT FOCAL LENGTH, NO MULTIPLICATION.
I can't believe how fuckin stupid people are
I was going crazy with my 85mm with my nikon d3400... only to know now that would have been a 127.5mm focal length!
Bro please tell me how is the sharpness and autofocus?
I just got 50 f1.2.. damn, where have YT recommendations been..
Feel the same way
I've got a 50mm f1.4 first and I LOVE it to this day
TIPS: If you have taken images on your kit-lense and you want to get a prime lens - your first job is to take your image library and sort it on focal length.
Now - beginners have a tendency to use zooms either full wide or full long (depending on the kit-lense zoom range), so expect that most images are grouped around those two focal ranges.
But also take note if a lot of images that you like are grouping around either 35 or 50 mm full-frame equivalent (23 or 35 mm APS-C).
Then start to consider if the topics of such groupings vary (landscapes/arcitecture/friends around cafe-table typically group towards more 35 mm. More intimate street photography and portraits are probably grouping more around 50 mm equivalent as a rule of thumb).
Now it is time to ask "why do I want a prime" while looking at your images. Do you like to get up close to the "action" while getting in some wider context as well? 35 mm is your first frame. Do you like to isolate people/subjects - the 50 mm is your friend (also because it will compress depth of field more and get you a blurrier background).
When learning with a kit-lens we are usually not conscious about where we place the zoom-ring. But many will have an instinctive preference - indicating if one likes the wider look or the more closed in look. So trust your own catalogue of images.
And remember, if you are getting a new lens and not a new sensor-size, one does not need to convert the millimetres. The only reason why we use 35 and 50 mm "equivalent" is that we grew up with pretty much only one "sensor" - 35mm film. Since the sensor on my Fuji is APS-C with 1.5 crop, it just means that 23 mm is equivalent to a 35 mm analogue camera/full-frame digital camera.
Personally, I am leaning to 35 mm. But not totally. Because my first camera (for 10 years) had only one lens - a 40 mm 2.8. By shooting with that alone, the field of view became internalized. I did not really have to look through the viewfinder since I knew what the lens/camera/film was seeing. So I guess I can blame childhood for my "choice".
Can you post the pictures of the models? For research purposes.
Please do a review of the sigma 16mm ,30mm and 56 with the a6400 on the FeiyuTech G6 Plus Gimbal PLEASE!
This guy is giving terrible advice and the title is just click bait. A 50mm should absolutely be a first or second lens purchase, they are so versatile. 50mm on a full frame is an all around good focal length, it provides just enough compression to be used for portraits and is neither a wide or telephoto focal length. When used in on a crop sensor camera it is somewhere around 75 to 80mm's which is, you guessed it, perfect for close up portraits. Also, most beginning photographers want cheap, a nifty 50 is super cheap. If you wanted the aspect ratio of a 50mm on a crop sensor you are going to have to get a 30 or 35mm lens and those are expensive because you need more glass to make them, so it is cheaper to use a kit lens. However you should still get a 50mm, there are zero down sides to it. In the end get the lens you want and can afford, and BUY USED! I rarely buy new lenses, keep glass in circulation :)
So today I learned "Jason Vong" isn't "Potato Jet" 's secondary channel ... They aren't the same guy.
Hope I'm not racist
im asian myself and i got confused by 2 different videos about a7s3 (1 was from Potato Jet and second one was from Jason Vong and i got confused for a second before realizing that they were different people :) )
same same
Glad I wasn’t the only one
It is racist but atleast you didn't mean any harm from it at the start
Actually when people say get a 50mm for a APS-C it's so that you will have a portrait lens that's more like having a 85mm lens on a full frame.
Except the less DFO.
@@BigBoss-gb4cx That's why I said "more like" but it's the 56mm f/1.2 that will give you about the same look as a 85mm f/1.8 on a full frame camera
Totally agree with you
have a 30mm 1.4 sigma on my canon 1100d, its wicked ! A bit expensive for a 2nd lens especially if you do it as a hobby and you're like 16 or so, but definetly worth !
50mm focal length on APS-C it *is* 50mm. The reason you multiply is because you want to see which focal length you would have to use on a 35mm camera to get the same result. It's like saying that 50mm on FF is actually 32mm on a Hasselblad.
When I started photography I got a kit lens and 50mm and most of the time it was difficult to get the frame I want with the 50mm. Therefore I went to 35mm on a crop body and it felt perfect for portraits. As for what tutorials I would really want to see "how to pose a model"'.
Keep making great videos!
I remember when I first bought my Canon T3i people told me the same thing, get a 50mm. I got and was like “wtf it’s so zoomed in”. Now that I know what I’m doing, I enjoy it on crop cameras for that “portrait” look, though I do love my 40mm a little bit more lol
it only costed us $100 to realize our mistake 😂😂😂 much cheaper than going to college
Jason Vong waaay cheaper than going to college. Could’ve bought a whole case of coffee instead haha
If they wrote anything else but the true value of the focal length on a lens... they would straight up lie. Because a 50mm lens always remains a 50mm lens. The glass is shaped to have it's focal point 50mm from the center of the principal plane. Full frame or not, what you mean is that the angle of view is different when you put different sensors behind the lens.
I'd really love to see more on event photography, low light situations, performance of arts as well as studio stuff.
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what is the best video lens for sony a7r3 ? is sony 16-35mm f2.8 gm best? but more expensive.. is there any other recommendations?
Another good zoom lens which isn't as wide as the 16-35 but is a great lens for the price is the Tamron 28-75 f2.8 👍
Marking aps-c lens with ff focal length rates just ridiculous, and I never understand that
John Smith They’re not marked with full frame focal lengths, but the actual focal length of the lens (physical dimension which will not change). What people mean when they say ‘full frame equivalent’ is they’re referring to the FOV that you will get if you’re using FF cameras. So the marking in mm is always correct, only the FOV will change according to what sensor size it’s being paired with.
@@saifaldin_ what I meant is why you can't place notes on lens with mount which can be used only on aps-c bodies with ff equivalent, and how's that correct if aps-c lens marked as 50mm isn't gonna be 50mm , etc etc you know what I mean
John Smith They can’t label it like that; that would be wrong. The only ways they can label it correctly are:
A) Label with FL (in mm) which they are doing now)
B) Label with FOV (in degs) in which case they would have to put both FF & APSC numbers for each lens.
C) Put all of the above
Sony uses the same mount for their FF and APS-C mirrorless bodies. So even though the lenses were designed for a particular sensor size, they can still be mounted & used on other sensor sized bodies.
I understand that the current way of labeling in FL can be confusing, but I can’t imagine a better way to label them (unless you don’t mind super long names for each lens)
The lens casts a projection onto the sensor. A FF lens casts a larger circle, but for a given focal length e.g. 50mm, the magnification remains the same. So lets say there's a dog in the centre of the image; in each case the dog is the same height on the sensor.
There's no [sensor] focal length; there's just focal length.
Because the FF lens needs to cast a larger circle than the APS-C lens to cover the larger sensor, the FF lens will usually be wider across. (modern lenses are more complicated internally than the basic single lens optics model which is used to designate their focal length).
There is no FF focal length or APS-C focal length. The lens has only its actual focal length which is not changed by the sensor size. You just should understand that with a smaller sensor one must use shorter focal lenghts. It seems that you have not understood this. I think you should first understand the basics, then you can use the crop factor and equivalences as tools. If you jump directly to them without understanding the basics you get confused.
Hey, do you have a spare potato jet's autograph?
I still love my 50mm. I bought it for my t3i about 6 yrs ago. Still use it on my now 5dm4. Love the bokeh that’s always given me. I don’t regret buying it
It is honestly good on either. When i was out shooting in monkey forest in bali, i used my 50 1.4 on a crop sensor and it was actually the perfect focal length. Put enough distance between me and the monkeys that i wasn't scaring them off and still got some really creamy gorgeous bokeh, and some of the best shots of my career
I love my 56mm on my a6300, but I don’t use it nearly as much as I thought I would. The majority of the time I use my 18-105
Same, 18-105mm is just too good in a variety of situations. I use the sigma 16mm 1.4 for low light
Where was this video when I bought my a6400 lol that was the first lens I bought after watching hours of TH-cam .. then my son's kindergarten classroom graduation I was pushing myself against the wall for a shot 😂😂
Was going to say a macro extension vid should be next but guess your on it already , so how about some water photography tips since it's summer
"dont worry about being too close to your object"
*filming girl* 🤣🤣 jk
Literally ordered the sony 50mm 1.8 last night...just changed my order to the sigma 30mm 1.4.
I didn't know I needed this video, but Jason Vong did...what is this sorcery?
do you have in body image stabilization? if not better get that sony 35mm 1.8 that OSS will help more than extra .4 aperture...
alphaxfang No image stabilization! I have the 18-105 with oss for those cases. The Sigma lenses is primarily for photos and video work on a tripod only.
@@EthanChlebowski well then that's a good choice for your set up... Ah and one thing to consider too... The bokeh ball, personally i don't like sigma bokeh ball... Kind of busy looking... But if it fit with your taste then go with that lens, it's one fast sharp lens for sure...
@@alphaxfang Indeed, I'll keep an eye out for it. I mainly wanted the lens for the sharpness!
Ta-Kuan Fuan That’s what I like to hear, I’m stoked!
5:24 they do that because the number printed on the lens is actually the exact value and the "true focal length".
And not when you multiply it .
Great vid! Thanks :)
The number on the lens is usually the “true” focal length (on on super zooms or compact cameras you many times will see the FF equiv. field of view.
What you mean is that a 50mm lens on an APS-C body gives you a 75mm FF equivalent field of view.
This point is that we use the FF equivalent field of view as a reference to compare the field of view on bodies with ither sensor sizes.
he is misleading people with his video.
People should stick to read the lens specifications. for example
Sony50mm E 32° angle of view.
Sigma50mm E 47° angle of view.
Sony50mm FE 47° angle of view.
@@kiyoshim9593 Nobody understands degrees.
85mm all day long! Great video!
also keep in mind that each crop camera system can have a different crop factor. For instance, canon APS-C is usually 1.6x and Micro4/3 is usually 2x
Also keep in mind that Fuji cameras have a crop factor of x1.5 lol thanks for educating the public
@@aight365 what?
50mm is almost always better on full frame. On a crop sensor, it's basically an 85. Not terrible for portraits still, but you're going to have to have a bit of space in your studio. I would recommend for everyone to get a 50mm AND a 35mm.... Both are really close to the human perceptual range of 42mm, but one is slightly telephoto and thus very flattering for facial features on portraits and the other is slightly wide angle and thus you're able to get really close to your subject and shoot a bunch of different stuff in tight spaces. I use the 2 of these primes for like, 90% of my photography.
That human perceptual range is pure nonsense. Human field if vision is over 180 degrees.
Long story short, A 50mm is the best starting focal distance for all-around shooting. Just know the crop factor of your camera, and what you want to shoot. If you're using a cropped APSC sensor, get a 35mm instead. If your focus is landscapes go about 1/2 that.
Actually 50 mm is too tight for indoor shooting. 35 mm is better as a general purpose lens.
As a beginner still learning how to use my Sony NEX 7 that came with the Sony 18-55mm kit lens after watching a few TH-camrs talk about lenses if I decide to upgrade from my kit lens it will be for that Sigma 30mm F1.4 Contemporary DC DN Lens for Sony E or the Sony😊 35mm 1.8 because I heard that two of those lenses would each put out better quality videos the the Sony 18-mm kit lens
when he said “who needs gir-“ and the gear flew across the room 🤣🤣i lost it
Just bought my 50 mm lens for my APS-c Cam. lol Haay. Now I understand. But I will just be steps further to use my lens.
damn the feels, i can relate
you should've made this video 4 years ago
lol
He shouldn't have made it at all. Totally inaccurate information.. No mention of the fact that you buy lenses made FOR cropped sensors, and their focal lengths will be true.
And i use m42 vintage lenses up to 135mm prime
I use my sweet helios 44-2 as a 75 portrait.
I find myself going back to using a 35mm equivalent lens (that would be 23mm on an APS-C camera) for documentary images. Anything wider starts showing distortion, especially in faces near the edge of the image, and anything longer does not always let you get close enough. If I carry one lens it’s that one, not a 50mm.
Watching this after the video where he highly recommends a 85mm lens is confusing. The 50mm is an 80mm on a canon APSC.
i just ordered the 50mm f/1.8 for my 200d and its on its way lol, no going back now
I have the same setup and love it,
Being on a budget, I got the Canon 50mm f/1.8 and the Canon 24mm f/1.8 for my Canon T7i. Love these prime lens!
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So true, wish I had seen this earlier...
So? Sigma 30mm 1.4 or Sony 50 mm 1.8 ?😩
Using sigma 30mm f1.4 on my sony a6000 and very happy with it 👍
is the sigma 30mm worth it?
@@sixra yes its worth it for myself and the kind of photos that i like to take
I came to a lot of these came conclusions when I started doing photography 😅. One thing to note is the crop factor on Canon is actually 1.6. On Sony it's 1.5. However if you're using a Micro 4/3s system, it's a 2x crop. Also the Canon M50 w/ the 50mm on a speed booster is pretty sweet. It gives you an equivalent focal length of 57mm.
He doesn't even mention that if you buy a cropped-sensor specific lens, the focal length it is rated for will be true. Only when you put a full-frame lens on a cropped sensor will the issues arise.
@@johnmcard3116 Nope. Focal length is a physical spec of the lens. And it's a measurement of how the light is being bent to be focused. A cropped sensor lens has the exact same focal length as a full frame version if they have the same numbers.
A 50mm FF lens on FF body has the same 50mm focal length of a APS-C lens on APS-C body.
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The thing that changes is the field of view. The optics behave the same. Field of view is cropped as long as you're not on full frame, so just multiply it.
APS-C lenses are just made smaller so there's no light "wastage", but the field of view is still effectively cropped.
That is why crop sensor kit lenses have a different range (18-55), so that it provides approximately the same field of view (after the crop factor)as a 24-70 kit lens on a FF body.
Check out Gerald Undone's video on crop sensors.
Did the same mistake so i bought sigma 17-50 f/2.8 and it was my best APSC lense. :)
Still a great lens! I use it adapted with my Sony a6500, as no e-mount equivalent exists.
@@rsmith02 I will try it with Viltrox speedbooster on EOS M50
Dudeeee finallyyy a newwwwww videoooo
been cooking up other videos! higher production, they're coming soon!
Jason Vong can’t wait!! Btw, you are my favorite youtuber (who cares about Potato Jet).
Holy Shit I'm so sorry but I literally thought Potato Jet and Jason Vong were the same person and just had an apocalyptic inception moment where I realized you are two different people. The resemblance is insane on so many levels!
great info
i made the "mistake" to buy an 85mm on my 750D and boy the 130mm hit hard , BUT i actually find it pretty interesting it give an other perspective on what you are shooting
although i would not recommend it either :') my 85 is a yongnuo , so the price is way cheaper than a canon or anything else so it wasnt too bad of a mistake :D
Karma LOL I made the same mistake and my camera would often get the focus wrong!
Lmao 30 seconds in the video and I'm already laughing
😂😂😂
If the lenses are designed for an APSC camera like the a6500 or a6400, why would they still be mislabeled? Shouldn’t they list the true focal length if they are designed for that platform? And it not, then what’s the point of buying those if they are cropped anyway?
I wouldn't say it's mislabeled, I'm sure there's a reasoning behind. One that I haven't learned yet lol!
The true focal length is the number written on them, period. The meaning of the number (how wide the field of view is) depends on the sensor/film size. Hence the confusion.
rsmith02 i just think it would be easier for consumers to know which is which so you don’t have that confusion. You can’t scale up an APSC lens but you can scale down a full frame lens.
Finally one talking about that.
I made the same mistake
Thank you for all the insights. Just got the a7c with the 20mm 1.8
50 is a horrible recommendation for many. Recommendation needs to be on FOV
I Just bought the Lumix G7 with the Kit lens 14-42mm , and then I bought a 25mm Lens for Blur in the Background AND...then I bought the 45-150mm Lens, so THAT's pretty much all the lenses I own. These are what I use for my Videotography.
This video was so helpful in recommending good lenses. I feel like I say this every video but it was amazing as usual!
Best thing I've told newbies getting a crop camera is to start with a 24mm or 35mm lens. Crop factor is never well understood by those starting out (including some pros). 50mm crop lenses are not a smartphone PoV, and as such, not beginner friendly.
50mm lenses make perfect sense... if your camera is full-frame. Unlikely with a newbie looking for budget cameras.
What is obsession with wider angle lenses. I love the crop / zoomed in portraits (shoulders and higher).
Tack sharp eye AF and bokeh. Less distortion
probably not that useful for video unless u have like a team or doing films and have a lot of time to change lenses for framing.
Why? To capture both the object and the "instagramable" environment of course, lol.
Paul Blank wider lenses are closer to how we see the world, so we're not as taken aback when we realize we're too close to get what we want in frame. It's also not long enough in situations where you'd reach for a zoom. I only use my 50 when I have no other choice due to low light. 50 can be great if you have the time and space to experiment, but if your subjects are people they probably aren't patient enough. I havnt used one on a full frame though.
When I finally understood crop factor I went to my local camera store talking to the sales rep guy about lenses. I brought up crop factor on apsc lenses and sadly he argued. I was like dude you’ve been shooting longer than I’ve been alive & you don’t get the crop factor?!?
I’d love to see more tutorials on portrait photography! 😁😁
I Love the 50mm focal length, perfect for portraits. But I really agree that 50mm is too tight, so 35mm or 24mm is good for all around.
For apsc?
@@JeremyCWW yes!
Nope, definately you are not right. Take a portrait photo with 24/35 and compare it to 50/85.
I own the Sigma 30mm 1.4 and it's become my go to lens for my Canon 80D. Sadly my "Nifty fifty" has become the redheaded stepchild that's been ignored and soon will start to worry because it's taking up space at the orphanage. Lol
It really depends on what type of photography you are in when choosing the next lens, and man this is a really good guide
glad this looks solid!
which lens should I buy next for video work. I have 16mm 1.4
56mm or 30mm? Thanks!
Depends on what you're shooting,I think both of those are great for b roll type of shots, and even interview type of videos. Only thing is when it comes to video work if you are using a mic mounted on the camera or getting audio in camera as well from your subject you might be a little too far from them , unless you use a lav . Ultimately comes down to what you're filming
There's also a thing like speedboosters for removing that crop factor (when using vintage FF lenses)
video starts at 4:16
I would love to see a astrophotography video from you, or a collaboration with Sony ambassador Kyle Meyr, and see you take photos together.
50 is not wide enough, and is not portrait enough. When analysing my shots with the 24/70 : I get 55% shot a 70mm and wanting more, the 45% of other shots are between 24mm and 35mm. So 50mm never fits. Most used lens = 85mm. Then I analysed my shots with a 70/300 : most were at 300mm including macro shots. I never go out without my 85mm. If I had only one : 85mm. Might try a good zoom like the new tamron g2 35-150 f2-2.8, or else a classic 70-200, but I prefer a lighweight 85mm f1.4 like my sigma hsm. (with all its known defects : longitudinal ca, no stab, but i love it, and it is LIGHTWEIGHT) so for me than answer is always 85mm.
OMG I thought the same thing. I was originally going to get the a7iii bit ended up getting the a6400. You are totally right it feels really close.
@S Tra Would have loved a Porsche but I would take a Honda Civic. This stuff is expensive man. No need to put yourself in financial ruin over it.
@S Tra ultimately the full frame is ridiculously expensive due to the kens
Thanks for the great information. Any thoughts between the Sony 35 f/1.8 and the Sigma 30 f/1.4 for that 50ish lens?
Go for the Sigma
Here's a really big rabbit hole, I am a travel photographer who uses a 75mm (150mm) on a Micro four/thirds. I will also add that I also cary a 17mm (34mm) for some wide angle shots. On top of that I am buying a full frame because I am starting to do more portraits locally.
No. They recommend the nifty 50 because it’s literally a better lens than the kit lens. It’s sharper and let’s in more light. Also, if you’re doing a portrait then you wanna use a “85” and it’s close to that.
Bro I'm using a 50mm on a Nikon D5200, but all across the kit lens and the 55-200mm, i always get blurry - not sharp edges and around the subject especially on group photos.
People on the sides of the frames are then blurry.
Any thoughts ? 🥹
The last camera I bought (and still have)...a Sony HX9V travel zoom...is broken. I have my iPhone 6plus for everyday use, so for a new camera I splurged and got a Sony A7III (many years ago I used a Minolta XD11 35mm SLR). For the lens I chose the FE 24-105mm f/4 because I wanted higher quality glass than the standard kit lens, but didn't want the higher price and weight of the "pro" 24-70mm f/2.8. I don't think I miss the extra stop of light, as the ISO performance of the camera is crazy good.
50mm is always 50mm. The confusion comes from describing field of view by a focal length on a particular sized sensor such as 35mm. But yeah. I had a 50mm on a canon rebel. Way too tight!
Wait do you understand the crop factor? It's not the lens length the pixel size
Watching this after switching to FF and I actually skipped the 50mm this time. 35 or 85 on FF for me...
I ran into this recently, too, on an APS-C camera. Everyone said nifty fifty, nifty fifty was actually pretty cheap, so I got one. Stunning, stunning bokeh and pretty good for tripod low light / long exposures / etc. It's been changing my game for doing IR photography without a sensor filter conversion, because of the huge light influx. But yeah, I was really stumped as to why it felt like I was always zoomed in; why is everyone going nuts over this thing? Every time I went out with it, it eventually ended up in my bag and stayed there, because it's too shaky (no IS) for macro-ish shots, and it was too close in for everything else. But yeah, now it makes a lot more sense. 35mm equivalents of the same lens are ridiculously expensive in comparison, so... back to the kit lens for now. :D It's actually not bad! Just sort of a bard lens though, Jack of all trades, master of none...
Edit: Forgot to say, my spouse calls this lens my "nifty eighty" now... lol.
Great, now I need to buy a speedbooster for my canon M50 before I even decide which lens I need cause I want full frame. Sounds like a whole lot of money outta my pockets 😰
*Not Sure if you've Done is yet, but have you made a Similar Video like this but for Video not Photography?*
I got a 50mm 1.8 straight after I got my Batis 18 2.8 and used it with an nd filter on my 6500 knowing fine well it would be a 75mm and I love it for the price! Less than a 6th of the cost of the Batis… I may have been lucky with an excellent copy because focus is lightning quick and that creamy buttery boka boom is so creamy I could put it on my potatoes. For the money I'd say whip your money out and sing don't worry, Be a happy chappy…. I know I know, Full frame... I'm getting there and will go full frame soon with all the trimmings.... Mashed potato anyone? Coffee? Have a Banana.
Even the Field of View of different sensor off course, different.. The Angel of View would be the same.. that's why.. 50mm still a 50mm.. everywhere... the rendering between background and foreground still the same between all sensor even you coudn't get the same field of view where a crop sensor will make you step further from the subject... so 50mm is 50mm.. 35mm on an aps-c sensor is different than the 50mm in 35mm sensor. Cmiiw
Love your videos, but I will have to disagree. For the price, there is nothing prettier than a 50mm. You have to know when to use it, and how, to get the most out of it, but the 50 is the best thing you can buy as a beginner. You will get used to something very important in Cinematography... MOVE YOUR FAT ASS TO GET A GOOD IMAGE!!! Zooms and wides are awesome, but once you learn that all you have to do is zoom in and out, you will have a lot to deconstruct when you get a prime. I used 50mm on a T3i for many years too.
This or the Sony/Zeiss 55mm Sonnar T* 1.8 ?? I can't decide, I need a fast lens for taking pictures inside of family and pets, so AF has to be great but I don't want to compromise on low light/bokeh... Thoughts? I have an A7C with kit lens on its way!
so basically the kit lens on the a6100 should cover me for a ton except portraits; sports, - but for landscape I should be good.
i bought 50mm f1.8 for my Sony a7 III and i returned it back because it was neither too close or too wide and i didn't liked that. im considering to buy a 105mm or 85mm for street photography and i also have 24mm.
What?? 😢 I got the lenses you recommended & it’s true it’s too close.
@jason Vong how can I change the auto focus to focus on everyone instead of the only people in front of it? Please help