Setting Up Hunting Arrows For A 40# Recurve! 520 Grain Dark Timber Magnus Stinger!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ส.ค. 2023
- Join us as we demonstrate how we set up a 40# recurve for deer hunting going from light weight target arrows to 520 grain lethal arrows in just a few steps including bare shaft tuning for broadheads!
Mike Treaadway from Treadway Bows told me YEARS Back I Hunt and Take Elk with my 40/45 # Bows. I had complete Reverse shoulder replacement last November. 4 days before my 68th Birthday.Why? I let it go for 4 years. By that time My Bicep and rotator cuff were blown out besides My shoulder joint. I can already shoot My 40# Black Widow PCH III. My Shoulder hasn't felt this good since High School! Light Bow poundage works with the proper arrow.
I have a treadway bow. The man knows his stuff
Great video, your dad had few words but they packed a lot of wisdom. Loved watching you help him. Good luck this season my brother's thank you for the videos
I'm learning. I have watched almost all your videos, thanks for taking the time to show us this knowledge.
If you don't want to go out and buy another batch of arrows, you can up the point/insert weight on your current weaker spine arrows to increase the arrow weight and foc, AND offset the "nock left" by gluing a second layer of leather on the window of bow. This will push the arrow away from the bow about an 1/8th of an inch farther and correct nock left. I have glued a third layer on the shelf window to adapt to a significantly heavier point and it worked perfectly. It allowed me to go from a 150 point to a 200 grain point. My FOC went from 15 to 18 percent and my arrow went from 510 to 560 grains. Zwickey No Mercy broadheads are affordable and have a good slope for mechanical advantage penetration and work well out of lighter bows. I had shoulder problems and had to back off my poundage as well.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Its really beneficial. I learned a lot from your videos.
Keep up the good work!
Greatings from over seas
Thank you so much I really appreciate that! God Bless my friend!
Great video!! Thanks guy's!!👍👍👍
Fantastic. I'm shooting heavy as well.....man it just takes all the bull#$$ crazy stuff out of the shot. Makes it easy.....all the finicky stuff with release and stuff goes out the window.....makes that arrow go straight as a dart. Great video. Man don't chase speed. Chase easy. And wow a heavy arrow makes a trad bow soooooo sniper quiet
You’re exactly right brother!
Your a darn good instructional trad guy. I had to learn over twenty years
The hard way
I use the same arrow cut to 31.25 with a 205 grain Simmons Safari and standard aluminum insert. That gives me a 525 grain arrow. I shoot this out of a 40@28 Bodnik Quick Stick longbow. I have no doubts about the lethality of this setup.
Your Dad (again) stole the show lol great video as usual
I am drawing 55 to 56 lbs on my recurve and my arrows weigh 555 grains. Your latest videos have really solidified my confidence in my setup. If I could afford it I would go even heavier but I believe my setup will penetrate well. Thank you for all that you do and God bless
Oh yes! You’re definitely set up good 👍🏻
Can anyone tell me what spine I should start with. Currently I have Black Eagle 400 Traditional and Carnivore. I would like to shoot 575-600 grain. My bow is a Black Hunter 54 lb. Longbow. My shafts are 29 inches.
If I need to change I absolutely will!! I may not hunt with this until next year if I can’t get real comfortable to 20 yards which I believe is my personal max distance give or take 3 or 4 yards max!
I used to be in the spead trap with a heavy bow and light arrows. Now I have dropped down nearly 20 pounds and double my arrow weight. It sure is easier on me at almost 60.
Thanks for the excellent instructions. They are much appreciated. I'm just getting back into archery and setting up a bow. I was told to agust arow light be adjusting brace hight by twisting or untwisting the string. No mention of bare shaft tuning. So, as a bow builder and an excellent archer, what's your advice on brace hight and adjustment?
When I get a chance I'll be back shaft tuning. Thanks! Paul
Another great video Jeff , would really like to get my set up tuned by you
I can sure do it for you, I’ve been doing quite a few lately, most guys are sending their bow to me and I’m building arrows and or tuning what they’re sending me and usually it’s within one week turnaround time just shoot me a message on Facebook messenger if you can if not let me know and I’ll send you my number 👍🏻
This is very helpful, thank you both. I’ve been following your videos for a while now and I’m very interested to know why you switched back from three under to split finger. I finally switched to three under for my instinctively shot, 35# Super Grizzly at 29” draw. I immediately saw tighter groups at 9 yards but had to let my sight picture develop to get back on center. I’d decided to try three under after failing to eliminate the bare shaft nock high on my GT Hunter 30” 500 spine, carbon with 125 grain field point at 9 yards in my basement. I read quite a bit about bare shafting carbon and came away with the feeling that carbon arrows always did this a bit and/or my top finger of my split finger draw was putting downward pressure on the arrow nock. After 100 arrows I was back on with 3 under at up to 35 yards (following your suggestion to shoot long to develop greater accuracy at shorter ranges) and feel that now switching between the two styles might be like switching between left hand and right hand drive cars, not too difficult when you’ve experienced both. I’m 73 and 8 months into instinctive archery after a compound bow related shoulder injury 20 years ago. I greatly appreciate the work you are doing to share your knowledge. Thank you.
Well it just kinda happened for me the other night when I was setting up my 56” recurve for hunting with 680gr arrows and it just had a twinging sound every second or third shot and I knew it was from how I was releasing it and unfortunately my best shots were the louder ones so, I tried split and it was silent every shot no matter what and I was hitting really tight groups also and that’s when I grabbed every bow and started adjusting the nock down a hair and re bare shafted every one to perfection, now I’m just enjoying the ultra quiet bows and definitely back used to it 😁
So that’s the man who stole(borrowed) your longbow. 😊
Yep he’s still got it lol
Hey Jeff, just wanted to share another method of curing nock high. I have done this with several bows but my current bow is a 39# (at my draw) Super Grizzly. I simply could not get nock high cured shooting 3 under or split. I took the Bear Hair rest off and replaced with a Bear Weather Rest. Immediately got perfect arrow flight. I already had left and right corrected. Now, I don't really like using the elevated rest BUT it works. It's not just this bow, I've had the same experience with my Bob Lee Signature and '59 Kodiak. Hopefully, someone will find this helpful.
@randalltodd4187 i have a bear super kodiak 60# and I can’t cure nock high as well
@@anthonyvarela951 You might try a Weather Rest or some other elevated one just to see if it cures it. I'm using 4 inch parabolic feathers so I wouldn't think it would be a feather problem. It works for my Super Grizzly, so that's how I'll run it.
Mine for split has always been right at 3/8”
Won't tuning with a empty quiver change the arrow tune once arrow quiver has arrows in it? I was told to tune bow with the way you are planning on hunting with.
I’ve got a 25 inch draw, finding a good cheap recurve seems impossible for me honestly, but I was curious if it’s possible to tune even those cheap turkey feather arrows from Amazon
Jeff: would you say nocking about 1/2 inch above Centre for split finger is a good rule for all bare bow recurve - regardless of #age?
Thanks
Yes sir that’s correct especially for draw lengths up to around 28” and then you can slightly go up as needed with the nock if the arrow still has a tail high tendency in flight but it’s a perfect starting point for sure 👍🏻
Questions. An arrow bends in the same way every time, right? How do you test to know which way that is, to ensure your arrow is not bouncing off the riser or the shelf? Ideally, I want it to bend away from the riser, archer's paradox.
Yes sir every bow is different as in how deep the shelf is cut and that determines spine choice, arrows will naturally bend around the strike plate but too stiff won’t it’ll actually deflect during the natural bend and then have a tail right reaction for a right handed shooter and without feathers to help correct it as in a bare shaft it’ll fly to the target tail right whereas a weak shaft won’t come out of the natural slight bend and stay tail left, I’m going to do some slow motion videos on all that hopefully it’ll be cool to watch!
I have a question if you don’t mind, let’s say my arrow is slightly stiff, how much should I expect to increase that weight to see a change?
Even 25 grains up front will make a huge difference
On that Satori clone bow… the Tbow ilf recurve. Do you know how many turns out you can do on the limb bolts?
They only have about 3.5 turns unlike the newer satori which has five to six
At what distance should you bare shaft tune at?
About 15 yards away from the target to give the arrow time to really show how it’s flying 👍🏻
Hey there,
I’m shooting a 40lb @28 martin jaguar, 29 inch draw. I have 400 spine gold tip arrows, planning to cut them to 30 inches.
What is the max tip weight I can run?
As much as your heart desires with a 400 spine, you’re honestly going to need a good amount up front most likely just have to play with a bare shaft and see what it likes 👍🏻😁
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 I have 100g brass inserts to start, should I just grab various field points and start messing around?
@@talvarezsk8 yes sir probably from 150’s to 200’s I would think and you’ll have a winning combination somewhere between those three for sure!
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 thank you for the quick replies you rock sir! 🫡
@@talvarezsk8 👊
This is my exact setup. 40lb longbow 27.5 d/l 500 Dark Timber arrows cut to 29”. 100 grain insert 100 grain head shooting 3 under. Lethal
Can’t tune an arrow til you have good bow form. Thats step 1. He’s not there so any readings could be off