Is a MK4 VW Golf the only car you'll ever need? A lesson in Longevity... with Disaster Detail.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มี.ค. 2023
- A friend of mine owns a Volkswagen Golf MK4, and as far as I could tell, it has never been cleaned (the car not the friend). I'd been threatening to steal Sam's Golf and take it for a valet, so today, I finally did.
Whilst the car gets cleaned we have a history lesson on the Volkswagen Golf, dipping into where it came from. We talk production numbers for the Mk1, MK2 and Mk3, and debate whether the MK4 is the best of the bunch.
Once the car is cleaned we see just how far its's come, before concluding on why a MK4 Golf is probably the only car you'll ever need... ever.
And oddly for Geoff Buys Cars... Not a Volvo in sight.
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Totally fully agree, I've had a mk4 1.8t for years, it's starts at 3am has a heater and radio, why change it..people don't like to be seen in old cars,.. funny how we judge someone's success on the type of car they drive...
Never a truer word spoken
Bang on the money there. I've owned newer cars and theve cost more money to maintain. Which people feel obliged to pay for because the cost of maintenance is still less than the overall value of the car. My car history has gone from a X reg to a 51 reg. To a R reg (polo that blew up in 6 weeks) to a x reg to a 04 reg to 09 reg to 12 reg back to a 03 reg and 56 reg second car and 13 reg van. My 03 focus St170 is my oldest car I've ever bought at 19 years old. And in the midst of spending over £1200 getting it fixed on a value of £1000. I bloody love the car. Normal populas are obsessed with the latest trends and newest car on the driveway rather than a car that makes them happy to drive it.
Best car I've owned was a mark 4 1.6 automatic. I should have kept it. Had 200k (km) on it when i traded it in. Felt like it would do another 200k
Couldn't agree more, Owned one since 2006..... 225k and still going strong. Last mot the inspector said he'd been failing cars all day half the age and milage, mine went straight through !!
My first ever car, a golf MK5 FSI, got me all the way to Aberdeen and back with 500 miles on one trip without breaking down or having any sort of issues what so ever. Got me all the way to Aberdeen on what could possibly be one tank of fuel.
Took me 8 and a half hours to do the entire trip with a 45 minute break in-between.
Even though I really, REALLY hate the appearance, I have to admire the appearance and honestly with the way things are going, I will not be upgrading anytime soon. Regardless of what scrappage scheme gets in my way.
@@Ben31337lor you could do like me…. Have 2 mk4 gtis and if one breaks down or has something that gives you pause to keep your daily grind on, park it in the driveway and drive the other while you can fix it at your leisure. Worst case you have a donor you can steal parts from to keep at least 1 running if the worst should happen and both go down. 🤙🏽
I had a 2003 VW Golf MK4 1.9 SDI and it just kept going until it was sold on in 2019 with 257k miles. The only non wear and tear item to be replaced was the wiper motor and the radiator was replaced too but that was due to it being hit by a flying brick from a skip lorry. Engine was rock solid and the car spent 11 years in my family.
Same with my 1.8t golf, it had new cambelt water pump and is getting vacuum hoses fixed today from air leak with new undertray fitted. It is also going stage 2 remap next week and shits on most things on the orad after 20 years! 285BHP from 1.8, they dont make many cars like that today!
Over the past 55 years of car ownership I developed a strategy that kept capital costs to a minimum . Buy new and run them until they die or wear out. Or needs change. Never for fashion.
Totally agree with you mate👍
If you're driving a MkIV, you really don't care about fashion, lol.
So you drive Toyotas?
I've had a Mk2 Golf CL, Mk3 VR6 and a MK5 TDi (since 2011) The MK5 TDi Match is such a great car. 188K miles and still going strong.
The mk.4 is a beautiful looking car, especially in silver. The design still looks fresh to this day. Great transformation but you neglected to show the interior, post clean.
Do agree with you regarding make do and mend philosophy.
Love this generation of Golf. The MK4 design will always be a classic and never gets old.
Mk4 Golfs being called classic and old school makes me feel sooo old!
@@chevchelios8582 They are modern classics now they're going up in value, getting a good MK4 Golf with a 1.9 diesel is hard work now.
I'm a VW fan boy and my dad is no different, he owned mk4 Gti, Mk6 Gti and the R, Mk7 Gti and R, he sold all of em except the Mk4, we've taken care of it and it took care of us. Our Mk4 Golf has gone over 1 million kilometers and still going.
This makes me happy! My 85 yr old Dad has a 2002 1.9TDI in silver same as this & my kids call him “The Moss King” because the car has all sorts of lichens & moss growing all over it! To him it’s a tool & he could t give a fcuk about the aesthetics! It’s mechanically 100%, always gets whatever it needs & is driven very gently. I think it has 130k miles on it now, but only 40k of those in his ownership since 2008 or so. It’s had a very easy life & will probably live forever! I’d love if, when he hangs up his driving gloves, my eldest would be able to take it over & learn to drive in it, but insurance companies here in Ireland will not give you a policy on such an old car unless it’s a classic policy with limited mileage etc. The sad reality is that it will probably be fit for nothing but scrap, not due to its own fault but due to a system that supports the car manufacturing / sales industry churning out new cars over keeping beauties like this alive. Keep up the good work Geoff!!!
After 23 years I finally sold mine. It was a great car never let me down at 184,000 mi and quite hot rodded. I sold it to my friend's kid for cheap to hopefully keep the legacy going for a while. But I was on the verge of not selling it because they still look good and they're still very reliable.
Recently purchased 2001 polo and have a feeling Its here to stay
A great message Geoff. Amazing how a tired looking car can looks completely different after a wash and a good hoovering out
Totally agree! All the more so since your friend's Mk 4 is even ULEZ compliant . . .
Brilliant video, loved this! My local Volvo dealer cleaner the T5, was like a new car! Love it even more!
I had a PD130 for a few years whilst my commute was 2 hours a day. It was fast, economical (50+ mpg), could fit a ton of things/people inside (I once bought a double bed with mattress and brought it home in that Golf). It was very comfortable, everything you needed was to hand really easily and all the dials/controls were well thought out and extremely legible. We once went for a long weekend camping in Bruges with 2 bikes, tent, clothes etc from Oxfordshire and back and it didn't miss a beat. Not bad for £1200
I only got rid of it when I treated myself to my 850 T5 manual, that was 6 years ago and the 850 is obviously still going strong but I do miss the economy of the Golf
Came here for the cleaning content; stayed and subbed because you seem to be my kind of mental. Good work 👍
Ahh good you played the outro at the end, not heard it last few vids. I always speak along with it. Mint video geoff👍
Well done, you're such a good friend. Soon you'll start your own version of "Pimp my ride" !
Ive had my 1.8T for 21 years now. Its in fantastic condition because I look after it. Sails through its NCTs. It was the car of my youth, I learned to spanner on it. So many memories and skint knuckles wrapped up in it and barring an accident it should outlast me.
My landcruiser has it's own eco system. Moss all over it, if any eco loons mention what a gas guzzler it is I explain that it offsets it's own co2 via its moss garden.
My Austin A35 is the only car I'll ever need.
Free road tax, no need for an MOT and ULEZ-exempt. An mildly-tuned motor and a five-speed box.
A recycled car. Roofrack for carrying rubbish to the tip or a canoe to the harbour.
50 mpg and more smiles per mile than any Golf. But it has downsides as well...
An absolutely brilliant video!
100% agree, maintain the old fashion cars, and they will last almost forever. I have as my daily at the moment Octavia mk1 1.6 petrol estate and it has all I need (apart from more power!:D ) and it's 19 years old. Cheers, take care.
Yeah, still looks fairly modern, but before the era of overly complex electronic stuff to go wrong!
Great video and great mentality!
I had a MkIII. Always noted how solid it felt.
still got my leon mk1 1m pd150 had it since 2011 and love it , do my own service and repairs to a point i need a garage
My 1993 Vauxhall Astra is not as reliable as a Golf IV. But because I take good care of it, it's got a fresh MOT and I don't intent to replace it with a new car.
Had my 05 Jaaaaaaaag x-type estate 2.5 V6 AWD estate since Jan 2009! Still going strong!! Used it as my new van, for building works, haha!!
Well done mate! couldn't agree more. 👍👊✌
I've got a 2001 Mk4 V5, such a great car, planning on keeping it going for ever 😊
So do I. Mine is 25 years old now.
I bought the same car in desember (even same paint job!) , near mint condition, first owner was in sweden, then i crossed into Norway.
And it has been loved all the way until i took it over.
Previous owner was a 90 year old woman, but her old son was a hobby mechanic specializing in veteran vehicles, so everything was kept in good condition, full on professional interior cleaning, new studded nokian tires, oil+filter, air-filter etc (The ESP doesn't work) so he wanted to sell a safe car by adding those nokian tires.
Anyways thanks for posting 👍
Do you run youre car on e10 or e5. i have heard 2000 onwards 1.6s have problems on e10
That's a mint little golf its come up well all that dirt did a good job of preserving it
Class. Reaction video from Sam et al needed. 😂
Thanks Geoff that's a good future recommendation is there ever was one. Brilliant ❤❤🌟🌟😃
The only car I ever had from new was a 2000 Mk4 GTI 1.8T, three doors, default reflex silver but with blue Recaros. I loved it, drove it very hard but looked after it well and kept it for ten years until kids came along other cars took over. I decided not to sell it, but gave it to my Mum instead and she has also loved it ever since - sadly she’s added old lady dings, herbed the alloys and never really washed it properly but it remains reliable but still comfy, swift and respectable during its second decade on the roads, needing only the odd repair from a trusty old-school mechanic but never breaking down. It’s still on less than 60k so when she gives up driving (She’s 80) I will take it back, refurbish it cosmetically and keep it around. I have four other vehicles at the moment but I have a strange feeling that the golf, and that uncanny 1.8t engine that just never skips a beat, will outlast them all.
I started driving in 1977 when petrol was 50p/gallon. Yes gallon, not your EU corrupt measure of litre but gallon.
My first car was a 1.6 mk1 capri.
We went allover at the weekends and all you needed as back up was a small barn style toolbox a few tools chucked in it, a set of plugs, points and condenser.
The diagnostic equipment consisted of a pair of eyes, a nose, a pair of ears and the central processing unit, commonly know as a brain.
There wasn't anything that couldn't be fixed with that lot. Unless you needed another part you didn't bring.
Point is, today you could have the whole factory race team mechs follow you and still not be able to fix a new car because its got a software bug or chips are on back order 😂🙃😂
Cars are like humans, you know where you stand with an old one 👍😂
In Australia, this Golf would never be used as an example of longevity. That title is exclusive to Toyota/Honda. I wonder if it's because parts for European cars in Europe are reasonably priced, so it's not as much of an issue when things break? And therefore it's more reasonable to keep them maintained for longer?
Brilliant all rounder. Ran a pd130 from 2012 for nearly 10 years til 09/22, and a 98 1.8t from 09 that still does t one of the daily driver duties! Parts are cheap, replacement body coloured panels are plentiful and the 1.8t is still on original clutch and turbo on a remap at 153k 😁 obviously both receive regular maintenance and 99% of repairs done by me 🙂👍
I remember seeing a PD130 in the Sun motors section that had 450k or so on the clock and was still going. Great lumps.
Edit, Pretty sure they came with the SDI unit also?
Get a green sticker on that golfs reg plate! 👌
We had the PD150 with full light grey leather, black exterior. Had it mapped at MRC, 190BHP. My Mrs took the kids everywhere, school, clubs etc. Never had a problem with it, bloody wished I never sold it 😢
I've always said the mk4 was the best golf ever produced especially the bodywork, they were absolutely bladdered with cavity wax and the build quality was superb, mix this with the 1.9 diesel and it's a Winner.
Yep its a shame that ever since the Golf has been going backwards. The MK4 golfs are actually going up in value now as they have entered the modern classic phase of their lifespan.
My mk5 is fine, apart from the bodywork slowly falling apart, which is forcing me to sell. Might p/x and buy an older mk4, and call it an upgrade 🤣
Been driving my MkIV VR6 for 13 years and it is still going strong. The people who say they're unreliable bought one with a 1.8t and automatic transmission and then got cheap with the oil. I'm sure that NA 1.6 can last forever if you just change the oil once in awhile and don't neglect the timing belt. I've had to overhaul the motor in mine due to a timing chain with a 150k mi service interval breaking at 126k🤦♂
Still cheaper than the way most people buy cars. I have about $30k US in it to drive it about 80k mi over the course of 13 years, including petrol. That's like half the Federal mileage reimbursement rate. Most people buy a new car for $30k, drive it for 5 years and buy another. Still have to pay for maintenance, repairs and petrol on top of that.
Absolutely agree 💯 today's cars are not built to last I have a 1985 nissan Silvia turbo I daily'd for 8 years and a MK2 golf gti had 21 years and have cost me less to fix then my 08 BMW 120d has in 3 years
I bought a mk5 golf, thing started falling apart soon after I bought it (2005 model). Will have to sell as it's not going to pass MOT and will cost more than I can justify to fix up. I always liked the look of mk4s, but went for the mk5 considering they're a bit newer. I should have done my research! All I've noticed since I bought the car are a load of other mk5s in failing condition, and a load of mk4s still driving around looking as good as new. In hindsight, should have bought a mk4 😂.
Got a mk5 golf r32 was thinking of getting rid ,going to keep it now 😊
They're going up in value keep it and take care of it. A MK4 Golf R32 is worth silly money now.
Omg that goal was a stunner
I was made redundant in 2017, I love driving and motorcycles, so decided on a 40,000 mile 2013 Peugeot Partner Tepee, the plan was if need be remove seat, board it out and work Hermes etc. it has Aircon and electric windows that about it, it’s on 57,000 now. It’s not allowed into Birmingham, London or Bristol but ok for other ULEZ. Bath etc.
It does a 400 mile round trip every 3-6 months at 55 mpg and the VED is £165 it’s worth about about £6,500.
What can I but for that? A 1.5 diesel Focus estate would be nice but that will probably have 100,000 miles plus on.
I’m retired now so can’t see me having anything else.
If you were in Chicago, you'd be fine. GTA is no longer a felony.
Are the later petrol versions of these ULEZ compliant?
I dont have a golf as im an MG guy but i do like the mk4
I had two of them back in the day - a1.8 GTi non turbo (a great car but not a great GTi) followed by a GTi PD150 which was very quick and economical. Both were 3 doors and the only trouble I had with both was the window regulators breaking and dropping the glass into the door. It's testimony to the build quality that you still see quite a few decent ones around today. In contrast, our current Mk7 GTD has been the most unreliable car we've ever owned.
Spot on. Ridiculous him letting it get that disgusting. Looks great now.
At that mileage it's not run in, he needs to take it careful until all the bits are mated😂
Our 2005 VW Passat did just over £400,000 miles (original engine, transmission etc) before we tried to sell it to "we steal any car" but they only offered us £75, which we thought was a bit mean for such a low mileage car. We sold it (still running sweet, and using no oil between services) to a private buyer who was in the doghouse for totalling his wife's Passat of the same era. All's well that lands well as they say in the skydiving trade, my wife being a member. I tried to get the mother-in-law to join, but she point-blank refused. I can't imagine why🤔.......................
My car is ten years old now and I am its first owner still. Every time I need to get a repair on it, my dad keeps saying you'll need to look at getting a new car soon (this coming from someone with a 2010 plate Honda CRV). I keep stating to him that there are literally no new cars I am massively interested in (except the latest generation Toyota Corolla, which does look a decent car). I would rather repair, keep it clean and serviced than buy new, and if I did buy a new car, it would most likely be second hand pre 2014.
I can better that. My daily driver is an Australian assembled 1976 Triumph 2500 TC. I was in Bathurst (Yes where we do racing on a street circuit that you can actually drive at 60kph) celebrating 100 years of Triumph 1923 - 2023. Vehicle ages ranged from 1929 (94 years) to the late 1970's. Mine being a 1976 vintage. Drove the ~265kms from Sydney to Bathurst and back again in high 30 degree days never missed a beat.
when you said "he says its on its last legs" I thought you was going to say it was super high mileage, 84k on one of those is nothing
130tdi colour concept and a red r32 mk4 for life !!!!!
We need an update on the golf. Does he still own/ drive it
I checked the reg of my very first car.... Its the only reg I can remember.
A 1981 VW Jetta... According to the website... It was taxed and MOT'd in 2021 and is currently SORN.
I presume its getting some work done.
I got rid of it because it was the most unreliable POS to this day Ive ever owned.
The fact that these cost over 2x as much as a mk5 golf says it all. MK4 golf was the best Golf generation of all time. 1.9 diesels were unstoppable. I had one with over 257k miles before I sold it on.
Same as my 2000 yards starts and stops year in year out
Wow, cleaned up a treat…. bet it’s mucky again within a few weeks 😂
Every VeeDub (and the rest of the VAG) of that era rusted like they were on a weight loss diet, parts of the wings are still scattered all over the UK
Don't know how I got here but kinda glad I did!
Seeing as I am, I'll ask a question...
Is it too late to learn to drive at 55?
Course not! And welcome to Geoff Land!
@@GeoffBuysCars Oh thank you! Everyone is so negative...especially now there seems to be an attack on all things personal and idicitive of freeeeeeeeedom!!!! I've managed to be car free all my life but I now feel I NEED to know how to drive for the coming " when shit hits the fan" escape!
I have a tiny channel but happy to get involved with any push back...😉
@@GeoffBuysCars I realised now why I landed here - 'twas your brilliant - "Have Sadiq Khan's ULEZ cameras already been vandalised?" video!
I sent that to everyone and am still laughing!
Well that was a cool video but I got to the end and didn't see how Sam reacted when he saw his "new" car. That could've made it viral (could've).Thumbs up from me (obs.) and I saved you from half a Devil (I was thumbs up # 334). Maybe Dave's shy.
I’m a real make do and mend bloke. I would never dream of buying a new car, plenty life in recycling a old car.
I had 4 brand new ones of these between 2002- 2004. All GT TDI`S, 1- 130BHP & 3- 150BHP, just brilliant cars, Best one i had was an import 150 with a massive spec oceanic green metallic. HX03 VYA if anyone still has it, i can tell you all about its origin. How i wish i still had it.
It's been sorn and out of MOT since winter 2020, sorry but I fear the worst 😔
Superb car Golf Mk 4 what about Audi A2 if you can find a good one, quirky and not at all bad to drive, 60mpg plus on the TDI?
I've had a mk3, mk4 gti and now I have a mk5 gti 200bhp they run forever if you service them regularly
I bought one of these in 2007, it had a litany of faults and felt really old when I sold it 2 years later. I spent a fortune on it. It really was a case of perceived quality over actual quality. I thought it was the worst car I'd ever bought. Yet 14 years later it's still on the road with 178000 miles.....
She came up incredible
i used to have a 2002 mk4 golt GT Tdi 130 BHP, it was the best ever car i have had
I still have my 24 year old Golf 1.8 GTI petrol with 180k miles. It is immaculate. Still has the original spare tyre in the boot! The boot handle is the only thing showing it’s age.
Replace the handle. If not rust will become a serious issue.
I have a Golf Mk4. Please help me reset the damn radio.
Are there any other buttons I have to press when entering the digits?
Code 1 is all I see.
🤣🤦♂️ got a 1.8 turbo sat on my driveway waiting on me putting a sill on it 👍✌️
Hope you remembered to hoover all the broken glass out haha
How can people keep a car like this? I mean you drive it daily and you want to sit in traffic with all that around you? Absolutely Nasty. Even if you are not a car person, at least pay to take it for a clean once in a while. Do you keep your house or yourself in that state? Glad it’s sorted and what a difference it makes.
I am not a MK4 Golf fan, nor am I a VW fan. However keeping older cars on the road is far better than buying an EV for instance.
We went down to one car in lockdown because mrs was paying silly money for a financed car and she was WFH so didnt need it sold it to webuyanycar for a great price, anyways world starts opening up lad from work had a 1.2 mk4 polo that he wanted rid of for £150 had sat for a while but couple of bits i seen it needed for its mot and its passed the past 2 years first time, yeah the laquers peeling off but underneath is mechanically sound because im keeping it going and does about 45mpg mainly town driving, also parts are really cheap because the suspension is used on loads of vag plaform cars till about 2014 😂
If that really is Sam's wife in the video then I can fully understand why Sam never wanted to waste time cleaning the car... 😎
Just sayin'...
Agreed! 😂
Never seen anyone clean a car in white trainers before.
Old is Gold good cars them mk4 golf last of of the good cars designed in the 90's
So true. If you're not into DIY maintenance, find yourself a good independent mechanic so you can keep the old girl safe and reliable. 👍
As James May said.... I think it could do with a damn good service... Before it's cleaned...
Have a 01 with 323000 still going strong
Got two of them the 150 and 130 gt tdi the 150 ive had a fiddle with and pulls like a train😂
Got one identical to this. 197600 miles and counting....
Awesome wee car,I'd have give him a good price on it.
That Golf 4 (not Mk4 please) has a BCB code engine and so has the build code PR-0GG which means it is EU4 PETROL and consequently thwarts Sadistic Khans ULEZ mislead addenda so the cars value doubles overnight inside the M25.
We need more pictures of Sam's wife...
IM 18 AND I NEED TO BUY IT
No you were right the Mark 3 was hideous. I own a Mk1, MK2 and Mk4. I skipped the Mk3
Geoff my Ride, we'll detail it like new.
Bombproof car.😉
Hey, why didn't you show the cleaning of the inside? I love a good car or van cleanout video. Could have made it hours long.
The Golf looked pretty mint after its makeover, but how do people live with an interior like that, it was an environmental health hazard!
@4:56 The valid reason is that he wants something better. Maybe a Volvo S60. The 1.6 is boring, very frugal and reliable but boring noneseless. 😊
I'm a slob, but that was shameful !
😅 brilliant
Just forwarded to someone who does believe a MK4 golf is the only car you'll ever need 🤣
Older cars and other products were made to last..