After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
I would rather buy a more expensive pump instead of a cheap semiauto. I absolutely love my supernova. I'll be shooting it until I have $1000 to drop on a decent semiauto. I would say to shoot a pump until you save up enough to buy a more expensive semi auto that will last forever.
BobbyGuyFilms franchi makes some awesome guns! I just believe that a semiauto is something you don't want to go cheap on. When I say cheap I'm taking under $600
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I got my Remington 870 a year ago and have out about 1500 between hunting and trap shooting and still working likes it's brand new but I clean it Everytime even if it is a box
I ordered me a Girsan MC312, about 450 bucks out the door, the reviews on it are really good, pretty much a benelli m2 clone. Anyone of you heard anything about it? I never been hunting before, don't know if I'll like it, so decided not to fork out a bunch of money on a shotgun.
umair khattak I have 3 Stoegers. M3500, M3000, and, the M3020 in 20 ga. They’re built like tanks imo. They’re made by Benelle so they’re quality, for about half the price.
Had my Franchi Affinity about 4 or so years now. Cleaned it only one time(seriously. I want to shoot it til it jams) It's shot thousands of rounds without a problem. Works great as a walking stick and it also doubles as a skiff paddle. Shoulda named it the Franchi Insanity. 10/10
My max 5 stoeger m3500 has same bolt style I love it and hardly have to clean it and all we hunt in NOVA SCOTIA is salt water eel grass mud flats and sand .. beating around in the boat and salt water doesn't bother the sucker a bit
I’ve been shooting a semi-auto for a lot of years now. When i was younger my dad bought me an 870 for Christmas, I think I was about 8 or so. I used it for a few years and it was a heck of a gun. I was so hard on that gun. By the time I put her up for the last time all the finish was off the wood from all the years of using it as a paddle and dropping it in the mud and everything else. Then I saved up and bought an automatic when I was about 15 and that’s all I’ve duck hunted with since. First one I bought was Winchester sx3. Heck of a gun. It is has operated where most of the top end semi-autos are inertia operated like your Benelli’s, Franchii’s and the browning A5. But honestly I prefer gas operated. To me they’ve been more reliable. Some high Enders are gas operatedlike berettas and the browning maxus so you can have either one. Just a preference. The Winchester is not a cheap gun either tho. They run about $1000. My new baby that I just bought for the upcoming duck season is the new Winchester Sx4. It’s Winchester’s new and improved semi-auto scatter gun. They still make the sx3 so I was on fence about which to get but decided to go with the new model. So far just shooting skeet and patterning my steel chokes I’ve loved it. No issues. Hopefully same goes when I get it into the backwaters and swamps and sloughs here in a couple weeks.
I think now a days if you stick to the main name brands. The big names, Browning, Mossberg, Winchester, Benelli, Beretta, Etc and you clean/lube it you’ll be fine. A $400 mossberg 500 will last you a lifetime.
@Travis Ethan... You are true, mine Winchester SX4. Until now there's no problem with it. Pretty good while shooting and hunting, cycling normally never got jam. I like it most. Light than SX3, ergonomics and easy to lead a target. Besides it's value for money...
I just put down my Mossberg 835 ultimag this year that I've had for 17 years. Only had one issue in 17 years and that was shooting Clay's on a somewhat windy day near some sand dunes and it finally got enough sand in it that it would cycle shells. Cleaned it and all was good and that gun has been through hell and back. It still has no issues but I decided this year I wanted an auto loader but couldn't justify the price of a Benelli so I went with the franchi Intensity. Going on the first duck hunt tomorrow morning with it. So far it seems to be an awesome gun
I picked up the new affinity 3 satin walnut for this past pheasant and duck season. used it every trip and ran probably 1000 rounds of 3 inch steel and 2 3/4 pheasant loads through it all together and it has never misfired once. Only problem i had was a bad detent spring that caused the charging handle to fly out. Sent it in to the manufacture and they fixed it no charge under the warranty. Great gun for the price, wouldn't recommend the walnut for waterfowl tho
Sonny Gunz that wingmaster can only use a full choke no use for duck hunting, only good for shooting lead. If you can shoot lead, best gun ever, my grandad has one that he has made his own shells for. Back when we could use lead.
David Green my 887 works flawlessly but it's a lot lighter than it looks and those magnums put a hurting on you. I have a versa max now and it tames the recoil.
I too have a Franchi Affinity Black, but mine is a LH model as I am left eye dominant even though I am a RH person. I started waterfowl hunting in 2014, but didn't have my own actual WATERFOWL type shotgun (my dad has plenty of shotguns, but mostly turkey ones, single shots, or old pumps with full choked barrels) and I didn't want to use my buddy's Winchester SX3 again. So in the spring of 2015 I was looking for an under $1,000 semi auto that had a LH model available mostly for the placement of the safety and not where the action is. I did tons of research and saw that Franchi was coming out with a LH model in their Affinity line so I had to get it. Like you I have not regretted it one bit, I have shot close to 1,000 rounds through it from low brass 7.5 target loads up to the fastest goose/duck loads, and even some 2oz turkey loads through it without one failure to fire or cycle. As you know it's light enough to carry with you all day and swings very easily and nicely. My brother has shot more rounds through his with the same success. I would recommend that shotgun to anyone. I know it is a cousin to the Benellis and Berettas and the quality for the price absolutely shines through.
Yes they are and luckily at the time I worked at Cabela's for 8 years so I got a great discount on it putting it in the mid 600s and put it on layaway so it wasn't a big chunk of change at once. No need to spend the extra $100 on the camo either. I have shot Canadas, ducks, pheasants, but sadly haven't taken a turkey yet with it. I like the jelly head choke from Primos for that, and I have a patternmaster for waterfowl. It's been awhile since I patterned it, but Hevi-Metal patterned well. I am going to have to redo some patterns and log it with pics and stats or do you think keeping track of patterns for different brand shells is that important?
I agree, Price doesn’t always speak to quality. Iva always been a Mossberg Guy, but I have had many Remingtons and they were all garbage. With the exception of the remys from the 70’s and 80’s the newer products are all junks. In my experience. Now I’m a Stoeger and Mossberg Guy.
When I first started I used a Remington 870, it worked great up until we got stuck in a random snow storm and every thing literally froze shut and the action was hard to do hunting that day. After that I bought a Remington Versa Max Sportsman and that think has been a real work horse. I cant even make it jam no matter what I do. I have a video on my page of me using it and hopefully it'll continue to last for years to come
I have a Franchi Intensity and love it. The only reason why I got the Intensity over the Affinity is because I have a few friends that shoot 3 1/2. I like to shoot 3's or 2 3/4, but if for some reason I run out of boxes, I am capable of using what ever my friends are using. There is nothing wrong with the Affinity, but damn they are nice guns for under $1,000. I use and ABUSE my gun and she takes it and keeps going. I have yet had a misfire or any type of hang up. Do not get me wrong I do like my mossberg 930 hunting shotgun, but It seems that when I grab a shotgun outta the safe its been the Franchi.
I have the nitro mag 887 since 2013, had 8000 rounds through it shooting trap.. I do not hunt so all loads are either no 8 or 7.5.. Never ever had a problem with it.. I love it and it patters dead on target.
Remington 1187 has been the best gun for me for deer, turkey, Fox, coyote, ducks, geese, squirrels, rabbits etc. Over 10 years with it and probably around 100,000 rounds with it it has not jammed once and is very low maintenance and easy to clean. It’s about 700$ but is worth every penny.
I have a Charles Daly shotgun made in Turkey. Turkish guns are fantastic, they make some quality weapons. I have put thousands of rounds through it and it’s still going.
I have a nitro mag no barrel bendin issue but after only owning it for about 2 years started haveing trouble with the fireing pin it dents the primer but not hard enough to set it off spring is to weak
Why was the barrels bending? My buddy has a browning with a bent barrel and another with the chamber part of the barrel is so swelled he cant take the barrel off
I have couple 870s an 1100 12g and 11-87 12g. I cant keep them all which are better resale? All are well used but very well maintained trap series guns
I have a TriStar Raptor 20ga with 24inch barrel and I love it. It has not jammed on me or misfire not one single time. I have killed deer and hog with it also. I love it. I also have a TriStar Viper G2 Pro 12ga and absoluty love that gun also.
I love my fraunki infinity But I was wondering if I should get the stoger m3000 for duck hunting or should a just use the infinity too because I use the infinity for pheasant and dove hunting.
Man I drop my gun behind my chair and my buddy drove over it with his truck and it still shoots pretty good just got aim to the right a little bit. Since the bolt fell off I just use my toothpick
I got stuck in strip pit mud up to my chest and had to use my affinity to dig myself out actually almost died completely drowned it in mud and put in in a bath tub to clean it out took a little while but it worked fine after that then recently bought a sx3
I’ve used my nitro mag for about 5 years now. Now yes I have had issues, but keep in mind I’m very hard on my guns, going as far as having to use the nitro mag as a Oar for our boat. But the only issues I had were a lock ring in the mag tube and a jam issue which got taken care of with some cleaning and rem oil. I do plan on upgrading but this gun really worked well for me!
What do you think about a Remington 11-87? What’s your opinion just curious I’ve used 870 express for just about anything finally decided to get a semi 🤷🏾♂️
WOW thats crazy ive never seen that happen but once one of my buddies, it was the last shot of the hunt and the season and when he shot the darn barrel fell off
Do you have any trouble shooting lighter bird shot out of the Affinity? I’m a beginner and looking for one “all-around” gun, and, as a lefty, the Affinity is one of my only affordable options. It’s either that, or a Browning BPS or Rem 870. I’ve heard mixed opinions about autoloaders vs. pumps, and would like to hear your input! Cheers and happy new year.
Been running a 20 year old 870 for the last few years as just stared waterfowl hunting. But shopping for a new gun doing lost of resurch. Leaning towards the Stoeger m3500 or m3000. They seem like a good bang for you buck. Waiting for a sale. Bobbyguy How do you feel about running a 10GA ?
I have had the same mossburg 535 pump for 9 season 1000s of rounds later and I finally had to replace 1 small 13.00 part .. love my cheep gun 435.00 brand new keeper clean and oiled and cared for done deal
I also lost the bolt handle out of my tristar, I'd always carry an Allen wrench in my pocket or blind bag. Saved the money bought a versa max and the thing just shoots. Whatever ammo, no matter the load it just shoots. I've put countless rounds through it and have only had 1 failure to cycle because I got water in my bolt and it froze.
I have a H&R Excell 3 inch semi auto i got for $300 on sale brand new during christmas about 6-7 years ago and have cycled roughly 2000 rounds and beat the living crap out of it (i mean numerous michigan blizzards and diver hunts when it’s down pouring on Lake Michigan) and never had anything malfunction on it
You can buy pumps for a lot less and they work a lot more when dirty. Look at the actions of the guns and the guarantees. Like if you take a Browning Gold Hunter and a Mossberg 930, the insides are the same, same everything but one cost twice what the other one cost.
I've had a Stoeger m3000 for 2 years now, hard use no problems yet! Had one failure to eject on a really light 1 oz grouse load and and one failure to fire bit that's because I pulled the trigger before the bolt was closed all the way.
i just started having problems with mine 2 weeks ago. it will no longer eject 3 inch shells. i just bought 2 and 3/4 inch shells, so hopefully that with help
Yo yo yooooooooo! Pattern kills Bobby! Every Fowler should pattern their chosen loads, a real eye opener! Two and three quarter inch fiochii 4s are the real deal for UK hunters! I’ve killed hundred of duck with fast lightish loads Put the pattern in the right place , it’s deaddddddd! Three and a half inch, too much for a twelve! In a ten gauge, yeh baby! That’s a proper goose gun! Use the 10g in uk for geese! Larger bore similar three and a half inch loads a killing pattern! Only pass shoot the geese with 10g , Winchester cartridges still reign supreme over here! Always watch your shows the night before I’m out hunting! Luv your enthusiasm and fowl Friday.
I’ve had one of the Tristar raptors for 5 years and it’s worked fine for me besides the fixed sights falling off so I don’t hunt with sights anymore but everything else works fine with occasional jams I love this gun
Quick question. Can a waterfowl shotgun double as a deer hunting gun? I plan to only hunt deer perhaps once per year. Just wondering if these waterfowl shotguns will also shoot Buckshot or slugs effectively for deer hunting. Thoughts?
Hey again, any recommendations for a good yet affordable Left handed auto for my 13yrd son? This year I gave him my over & under 20ga which he loves. I was going to give him my cz920 I won at sheet shoot but knocks the safety being a South paw lol
Went from a mossberg 500, and after getting out shot by all my buddies with autos, bought a weatherby sa-08. Its been a great gun, very reliable, lightweight, worked great. However once I grabbed the wrong ammo case before a hunt and had no shells. My buddy shot 3.5s and only had a few 3 inch shells. Felt like an idiot, so long story short next season i bought a browning silver hunter 3.5 inch. Its substantially heavier, but its an amazing shotgun. I kept the weatherby cause some people said 3.5 inch guns don't cycle skeet loads. Maybe some cheap 3.5s don't but my browning cycles everything so I just use the weatherby as a loaner/backup but its still a great gun. Long story short you get what you pay for, and if you are getting into Waterfowl, get an auto. Pumps have their place but modern autos are extremely reliable and worth the money
BobbyGuyFilms ok, it's what both my dad and I use. Iweve had one problem with them where we hadn't cleaned them since july, and had a serious cold snap in January that froze the gunk, but other than that, it has been perfect
O/U Or SxS , it seems the rest are prone to failure. Shoot my red label alot, bought it new in the early 80s shoots like the day I bought it. Worth 2x what I paid for it.
Shoot a Benelli Supernova or Remington 870 to start with because they're rugged, tough, fairly inexpensive pump-action shotguns. Then graduate to a nice autoloader like a Benelli Super Black Eagle II/III or Franchi Affinity. Pump-actions aren't easy to use and they really allow you to appreciate a quality autoloader.
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Do you know anything about legacy escort magnum 12 ga? I bought one last year, works great so far but haven't seen a lot of info on them. or many reviews.
I just bought my first shotgun Mossberg 835 ulti mag used from Cabelas for $300 I'm gonna be using it for waterfowl turkey dove and hopefully pheasant. I'm in Texas so I'm gonna hunt whatever I can with it. If anyone has any comments about the gun let me know
I've had the a 300 for 2 seasons now. I've only cleaned it once per season, which I know I should probably do it more often. Despite this it has only jammed once and that was at the very end of this past season. It does scratch a little bit easy, but isn't too bad. Highly recommend it, good gun for the price.
I have a Remington 887 nitro mag and it shoots well but when i pump it, I cannot get it to put a 3 1/2 in round in the chamber. It will chamber and eject the the 3 1/2 inch rounds but will not cycle them. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this let me know
I have a stoeger m3500 and it's about 600 dollars and it's a great cheaper semi auto gun I have had no problems with the m3500 but I have heard bad stuff about the m3000.
I have a TriStar Hunter mag mossy oak camo for two years now I've shot well over 1200 rds (89% steel)I paid 700$ for it's a pig it's been to Davie Jones locker multiple times frozen and it keeps eating everything I throw in it. TriStar makes good guns I also have a TriStar viper g2 chrome 20ga it also eats everything you put in it it has 3yrs of complete abuse. The problem I've noticed from my buddies once you buy a sbe or super vinci is most Ppl baby them because they paid 1500+ no point in having a gun you can't beat up!!!
+Me Clay Agree man! Even though I spent 800 bucks I'm gonna use it just like I've used the rest. Sounds like I have a bit higher end of tristar than myself. I live the tristar, just need to rebuild it. Most comfortable gun I've owned
I'm starting out with a Browning Maxus. NOT a bargain price at all. I'm new to duck hunting and struggled on deciding to drop that much on a shotgun, especially with needing waders, decoys, calls, etc. I really don't want to buy a new shotgun every three to five years though so I am hoping it lasts me the rest of my life.
For my money Id rather shoot my handloaded hevi shot out of a pump over a semi auto with steel. That's just my preference. A 3" with 1.5 oz of Hevi Shot B or #2's through a full choke will drop a Honker at 65 yards with ease. I also think it's more worth someone's time and money to have and inexpensive gun and lots of rounds of practice vs $1K gun with little practice. I will probably get a semi auto once I have filled out my decoy spreads. My cousin is an idiot. He would rather have a semi auto than a full decoy spread.
I completely agree benelli is super expensive but I was able to get a brand new super Vinci for $20 and I absolutely love it if I had to I would buy it for full price
Man I sure love my affinity it’s an amazing gun I’ve killed plenty of ducks, dove, geese, sand hill cranes, and even a few hogs with that thing and it’s still running like a dream
I have a tri-star and it is very nice and well put together. Mostly on cheaper guns you will see a trigger off a Daisy pellet gun. Imagine that another engineer that knows nothing about guns probably designed that trigger on the cheapest shotgun you can fine but that’s all beside the point back to what I was saying I can definitely tell you trigger is crisp and I would have paid 400 more if that was my only option. I paid 700 for the bronze edition G2 12 gauge. I will agree with you it is very cheap, meaning cheep price
After sighting in at 60 feet, I could easily cover 5 shots with a nickel th-cam.com/users/postUgkxQt2uORDRfFOVSrO4idv4B90ThT6EOnEL ! Truly a pleasure to shoot! Scope was easy to adjust for eye relief. Only problem the varmints must have seen it delivered lol!Update: So impressed with shot groups at 30 yards I purchased a Hammers 3×9 with adjustable Objective scope! Now a true nail driver!
I would rather buy a more expensive pump instead of a cheap semiauto. I absolutely love my supernova. I'll be shooting it until I have $1000 to drop on a decent semiauto. I would say to shoot a pump until you save up enough to buy a more expensive semi auto that will last forever.
+Kansas Fisherman Franchise isn't 1000 and I believe they r made to last. They are trooped dog. I'll let u shoot mine then u might want one
Kansas Fisherman I have my supernova and I hate it but I do agree on your pump vs semi auto argument
BobbyGuyFilms franchi makes some awesome guns! I just believe that a semiauto is something you don't want to go cheap on. When I say cheap I'm taking under $600
+Kansas Fisherman Affinity runs about 750 out the door
stoeger is a cheaper good quality shotgun m3500 only cost about $700 and can shoot 3.5"
You do realize that Tri-Star has a five year warranty anything that goes wrong in there five years they will fix free of charge
Ryan Wolfert yeah but they won’t warranty neglect LOL
That aint gonna do you any good when it breaks two weeks before duck season.
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I got my Remington 870 a year ago and have out about 1500 between hunting and trap shooting and still working likes it's brand new but I clean it Everytime even if it is a box
+Waterfowl Load Fishing good gun!
I ordered me a Girsan MC312, about 450 bucks out the door, the reviews on it are really good, pretty much a benelli m2 clone.
Anyone of you heard anything about it?
I never been hunting before, don't know if I'll like it, so decided not to fork out a bunch of money on a shotgun.
For the $300 you spent on that Tri-Star, why didn’t you buy a synthetic 870 for $350?
because 870 finish is not up to par for water based hunting anymore.
Buy a Nova or a Super Nova then a cheap semi auto and if u do get a semi get a SBE2 or a SBE3
California compliant charge handle
I got an old 870 and a stoeger m3500 in max 5 and a Super Black eagle 2 25th anniversary and I recommend all of them
I have a New Stoeger M3500 great gun
Planning on buying one. How does it work.
@@pakcanhunter after the first 100 shells it runs like a dream
umair khattak I have 3 Stoegers. M3500, M3000, and, the M3020 in 20 ga. They’re built like tanks imo. They’re made by Benelle so they’re quality, for about half the price.
I picked up the SBE 3 a few months ago. Damn that thing is a shooting dream!
+StihlnLogs Lucky god you
BobbyGuyFilms can you do a video on decoy spreads and your preferred spread
+Grant Miller Watch my video called the U pattern. I am going to do a new duck
Spreads vids here soon
Just ordered mine last night, should be here in a couple days! Couldn't be more happy to see this comment.
My son got me a SBE 3 for fathers day this year. Love the SBE 3
Had my Franchi Affinity about 4 or so years now. Cleaned it only one time(seriously. I want to shoot it til it jams) It's shot thousands of rounds without a problem. Works great as a walking stick and it also doubles as a skiff paddle. Shoulda named it the Franchi Insanity. 10/10
+Joe Lewandowski yes man I love mine
I got a nitro mag and I hate it. Put it back into the cabinet and went back to the 870. It had a bad cycling problem. Now I'm in love with my 11-87
True that.!!!
My max 5 stoeger m3500 has same bolt style I love it and hardly have to clean it and all we hunt in NOVA SCOTIA is salt water eel grass mud flats and sand .. beating around in the boat and salt water doesn't bother the sucker a bit
I bought a baikal mp153 work horse of a gun hasnt failed me yet
Baikal 🤮
I’ve been shooting a semi-auto for a lot of years now. When i was younger my dad bought me an 870 for Christmas, I think I was about 8 or so. I used it for a few years and it was a heck of a gun. I was so hard on that gun. By the time I put her up for the last time all the finish was off the wood from all the years of using it as a paddle and dropping it in the mud and everything else. Then I saved up and bought an automatic when I was about 15 and that’s all I’ve duck hunted with since. First one I bought was Winchester sx3. Heck of a gun. It is has operated where most of the top end semi-autos are inertia operated like your Benelli’s, Franchii’s and the browning A5. But honestly I prefer gas operated. To me they’ve been more reliable. Some high Enders are gas operatedlike berettas and the browning maxus so you can have either one. Just a preference. The Winchester is not a cheap gun either tho. They run about $1000. My new baby that I just bought for the upcoming duck season is the new Winchester Sx4. It’s Winchester’s new and improved semi-auto scatter gun. They still make the sx3 so I was on fence about which to get but decided to go with the new model. So far just shooting skeet and patterning my steel chokes I’ve loved it. No issues. Hopefully same goes when I get it into the backwaters and swamps and sloughs here in a couple weeks.
+Jon Evitts1984 Yep the sx3 is one heck of a gun
I think now a days if you stick to the main name brands. The big names, Browning, Mossberg, Winchester, Benelli, Beretta, Etc and you clean/lube it you’ll be fine.
A $400 mossberg 500 will last you a lifetime.
Yep, My Mossberg 835 which I bought in 1999 is still going strong. The pheasants in South Dakota don't like it though. lol No rust either.
chuck wood You realize mossbergs are primarily made of aluminum and plastic?
@Travis Ethan... You are true, mine Winchester SX4. Until now there's no problem with it. Pretty good while shooting and hunting, cycling normally never got jam. I like it most. Light than SX3, ergonomics and easy to lead a target. Besides it's value for money...
Ata Venza is manufactured by binelli. The quality is insane for a 400$ gun
I just put down my Mossberg 835 ultimag this year that I've had for 17 years. Only had one issue in 17 years and that was shooting Clay's on a somewhat windy day near some sand dunes and it finally got enough sand in it that it would cycle shells. Cleaned it and all was good and that gun has been through hell and back. It still has no issues but I decided this year I wanted an auto loader but couldn't justify the price of a Benelli so I went with the franchi Intensity. Going on the first duck hunt tomorrow morning with it. So far it seems to be an awesome gun
+Casey Moody You will love it I love my affinity
$206 Hatfield SAS shotgun is a steal. Just got it a week ago fired probably half a box of federal field load, it has worked flawlessly.
You get the new generation?
Never had any issues with my 887.
I picked up the new affinity 3 satin walnut for this past pheasant and duck season. used it every trip and ran probably 1000 rounds of 3 inch steel and 2 3/4 pheasant loads through it all together and it has never misfired once. Only problem i had was a bad detent spring that caused the charging handle to fly out. Sent it in to the manufacture and they fixed it no charge under the warranty. Great gun for the price, wouldn't recommend the walnut for waterfowl tho
870 had it for 25 years not one malfunction
luke.g Giampetruzzi My 870’s are rock solid too. I’d take that $300 and buy a used 870 Wingmaster and my grandson could pass it to his son. 😎
Sonny Gunz that wingmaster can only use a full choke no use for duck hunting, only good for shooting lead. If you can shoot lead, best gun ever, my grandad has one that he has made his own shells for. Back when we could use lead.
870 is the best value, Old Winchester Model 12s will last forever--but no lead in those barrels
Probably only fired 250 shells.
My 870 wing master has a modified barrel..
I have a 887 camo and never had a promblem but now hunt with a browning a5
David Green my 887 works flawlessly but it's a lot lighter than it looks and those magnums put a hurting on you. I have a versa max now and it tames the recoil.
Im happy you found a gun that works for you. No one should have to deal with a gun that malfunctions on a regular basis.
Exactly! It kills a hunt with a faulty gun
I too have a Franchi Affinity Black, but mine is a LH model as I am left eye dominant even though I am a RH person. I started waterfowl hunting in 2014, but didn't have my own actual WATERFOWL type shotgun (my dad has plenty of shotguns, but mostly turkey ones, single shots, or old pumps with full choked barrels) and I didn't want to use my buddy's Winchester SX3 again. So in the spring of 2015 I was looking for an under $1,000 semi auto that had a LH model available mostly for the placement of the safety and not where the action is. I did tons of research and saw that Franchi was coming out with a LH model in their Affinity line so I had to get it. Like you I have not regretted it one bit, I have shot close to 1,000 rounds through it from low brass 7.5 target loads up to the fastest goose/duck loads, and even some 2oz turkey loads through it without one failure to fire or cycle. As you know it's light enough to carry with you all day and swings very easily and nicely. My brother has shot more rounds through his with the same success. I would recommend that shotgun to anyone. I know it is a cousin to the Benellis and Berettas and the quality for the price absolutely shines through.
+Forrest Earnest Well said they are great guns
Yes they are and luckily at the time I worked at Cabela's for 8 years so I got a great discount on it putting it in the mid 600s and put it on layaway so it wasn't a big chunk of change at once. No need to spend the extra $100 on the camo either. I have shot Canadas, ducks, pheasants, but sadly haven't taken a turkey yet with it. I like the jelly head choke from Primos for that, and I have a patternmaster for waterfowl. It's been awhile since I patterned it, but Hevi-Metal patterned well. I am going to have to redo some patterns and log it with pics and stats or do you think keeping track of patterns for different brand shells is that important?
I agree, Price doesn’t always speak to quality. Iva always been a Mossberg Guy, but I have had many Remingtons and they were all garbage. With the exception of the remys from the 70’s and 80’s the newer products are all junks. In my experience. Now I’m a Stoeger and Mossberg Guy.
The stoeger m3500 is the 3000s bigger younger brother. Amazing gun. Can’t beat the price at a little under $700.
When I first started I used a Remington 870, it worked great up until we got stuck in a random snow storm and every thing literally froze shut and the action was hard to do hunting that day. After that I bought a Remington Versa Max Sportsman and that think has been a real work horse. I cant even make it jam no matter what I do. I have a video on my page of me using it and hopefully it'll continue to last for years to come
+Brady Tyler I tell ya it's nice finally getting a gun that isn't a pos lol My experiences with Remington have been short of amazing to say the least
Love my versa max sportsman duck blind model. It functions great and tames the recoil.
I have a Franchi Intensity and love it. The only reason why I got the Intensity over the Affinity is because I have a few friends that shoot 3 1/2. I like to shoot 3's or 2 3/4, but if for some reason I run out of boxes, I am capable of using what ever my friends are using. There is nothing wrong with the Affinity, but damn they are nice guns for under $1,000. I use and ABUSE my gun and she takes it and keeps going. I have yet had a misfire or any type of hang up. Do not get me wrong I do like my mossberg 930 hunting shotgun, but It seems that when I grab a shotgun outta the safe its been the Franchi.
I have the nitro mag 887 since 2013, had 8000 rounds through it shooting trap.. I do not hunt so all loads are either no 8 or 7.5.. Never ever had a problem with it.. I love it and it patters dead on target.
Remington 1187 has been the best gun for me for deer, turkey, Fox, coyote, ducks, geese, squirrels, rabbits etc. Over 10 years with it and probably around 100,000 rounds with it it has not jammed once and is very low maintenance and easy to clean. It’s about 700$ but is worth every penny.
I am saving for a new A-5 Browning High Grade with a 26 inch long barrel. 6 pounds 11 ounces empty.
I started mowing lawns when I was 10 (now 15) and I finally got enough to buy a SX3 last year at the end of goose season.
+Buxy Outdoors Nice Man!!! Hard work pays off cuz those are really nice guns
There is still hope for your generation, you are the key kiddo! Way to work for what you want makes it that much more meaningful
Ive had tristars, berettas, and remington and shoot em all alot. I shoot the cheaper ones more. Never had many problems with any of them
I have a Charles Daly shotgun made in Turkey. Turkish guns are fantastic, they make some quality weapons. I have put thousands of rounds through it and it’s still going.
I have a nitro mag no barrel bendin issue but after only owning it for about 2 years started haveing trouble with the fireing pin it dents the primer but not hard enough to set it off spring is to weak
Why was the barrels bending? My buddy has a browning with a bent barrel and another with the chamber part of the barrel is so swelled he cant take the barrel off
I have couple 870s an 1100 12g and 11-87 12g. I cant keep them all which are better resale? All are well used but very well maintained trap series guns
I have a remington 1100 with a 28 inch vented rib barrel
I have a TriStar Raptor 20ga with 24inch barrel and I love it. It has not jammed on me or misfire not one single time. I have killed deer and hog with it also. I love it. I also have a TriStar Viper G2 Pro 12ga and absoluty love that gun also.
TriStar will send you the parts to fix the gun and if you don't want to do it they'll take the gun back and fix it you have 5 years of warranty
I love my fraunki infinity But I was wondering if I should get the stoger m3000 for duck hunting or should a just use the infinity too because I use the infinity for pheasant and dove hunting.
I have a maverick 88 and so far its treated me pretty good
It's my first year hunting bird so I'm still new with it but so far I've gotten a good hand full of dove
They last a lifetime if cleaned.
Good gun indeed and i got one,smh,you can't beatem
Man I drop my gun behind my chair and my buddy drove over it with his truck and it still shoots pretty good just got aim to the right a little bit.
Since the bolt fell off I just use my toothpick
I got stuck in strip pit mud up to my chest and had to use my affinity to dig myself out actually almost died completely drowned it in mud and put in in a bath tub to clean it out took a little while but it worked fine after that then recently bought a sx3
+Triston Parkinson Jesus now that's a good story! Glad your ok bro! Can we say the Affinity saved your life!?? Lol pretty sure it did
BobbyGuyFilms lol I guess it did😂😂
Yup same prob with the nitro mag but this is the difference I shot the barrel off
I’ve used my nitro mag for about 5 years now. Now yes I have had issues, but keep in mind I’m very hard on my guns, going as far as having to use the nitro mag as a Oar for our boat. But the only issues I had were a lock ring in the mag tube and a jam issue which got taken care of with some cleaning and rem oil. I do plan on upgrading but this gun really worked well for me!
What do you think about a Remington 11-87? What’s your opinion just curious I’ve used 870 express for just about anything finally decided to get a semi 🤷🏾♂️
I had the nitro mag it blew up on me. Want to talk about crapping your self. Never again haha. Great videos 😁
Tristar viper max with the 3.5 inch chamber?
WOW thats crazy ive never seen that happen but once one of my buddies, it was the last shot of the hunt and the season and when he shot the darn barrel fell off
Do you have any trouble shooting lighter bird shot out of the Affinity? I’m a beginner and looking for one “all-around” gun, and, as a lefty, the Affinity is one of my only affordable options. It’s either that, or a Browning BPS or Rem 870. I’ve heard mixed opinions about autoloaders vs. pumps, and would like to hear your input! Cheers and happy new year.
Been running a 20 year old 870 for the last few years as just stared waterfowl hunting. But shopping for a new gun doing lost of resurch. Leaning towards the Stoeger m3500 or m3000. They seem like a good bang for you buck. Waiting for a sale. Bobbyguy How do you feel about running a 10GA ?
I have had the same mossburg 535 pump for 9 season 1000s of rounds later and I finally had to replace 1 small 13.00 part .. love my cheep gun 435.00 brand new keeper clean and oiled and cared for done deal
I also lost the bolt handle out of my tristar, I'd always carry an Allen wrench in my pocket or blind bag. Saved the money bought a versa max and the thing just shoots. Whatever ammo, no matter the load it just shoots. I've put countless rounds through it and have only had 1 failure to cycle because I got water in my bolt and it froze.
+Lucas Comer Bro the Tristar discharge handle struggle is reeaaall lol
I even contacted tri-star and got a replacement bolt handle and that one fell out too. So then I saved the money and bought a versa max.
I was thinking about getting a franchi affinity... I'm left handed and but want camo... do you see many lefty guys shooting right handed guns
I turkey hunt with a Remington 870 and duck hunt with a old black egel and I love em all!
Tim Galati Outdoors has a Franchi Affinity, he has some videos with it.
Hey Bobby would you reccomend the stoeger m3500?? Anybody have one, what's your thoughts?
What choke do you have in your tristar
I have a H&R Excell 3 inch semi auto i got for $300 on sale brand new during christmas about 6-7 years ago and have cycled roughly 2000 rounds and beat the living crap out of it (i mean numerous michigan blizzards and diver hunts when it’s down pouring on Lake Michigan) and never had anything malfunction on it
I use a Beretta a300 outlander max5. Never had a malfunction with it yet
You can buy pumps for a lot less and they work a lot more when dirty. Look at the actions of the guns and the guarantees. Like if you take a Browning Gold Hunter and a Mossberg 930, the insides are the same, same everything but one cost twice what the other one cost.
I've had a Stoeger m3000 for 2 years now, hard use no problems yet! Had one failure to eject on a really light 1 oz grouse load and and one failure to fire bit that's because I pulled the trigger before the bolt was closed all the way.
+NEPA Outdoors I agree they are great guns
i just started having problems with mine 2 weeks ago. it will no longer eject 3 inch shells. i just bought 2 and 3/4 inch shells, so hopefully that with help
Yo yo yooooooooo! Pattern kills Bobby! Every Fowler should pattern their chosen loads, a real eye opener!
Two and three quarter inch fiochii 4s are the real deal for UK hunters! I’ve killed hundred of duck with fast lightish loads
Put the pattern in the right place , it’s deaddddddd!
Three and a half inch, too much for a twelve! In a ten gauge, yeh baby! That’s a proper goose gun!
Use the 10g in uk for geese! Larger bore similar three and a half inch loads a killing pattern!
Only pass shoot the geese with 10g , Winchester cartridges still reign supreme over here!
Always watch your shows the night before I’m out hunting!
Luv your enthusiasm and fowl Friday.
I’ve had one of the Tristar raptors for 5 years and it’s worked fine for me besides the fixed sights falling off so I don’t hunt with sights anymore but everything else works fine with occasional jams I love this gun
What about barrel length, 26 vs 28?
Nicholas Dean i dont think it maders too much but if your a small guy shorter may be better
0:12 I love how that shotgun self pumped 😂
Quick question. Can a waterfowl shotgun double as a deer hunting gun? I plan to only hunt deer perhaps once per year. Just wondering if these waterfowl shotguns will also shoot Buckshot or slugs effectively for deer hunting. Thoughts?
Many waterfowl guns you can buy a rifled slug barrel. Rifled slug barrels with sabot slugs will flat out perform a smooth bore shooting rifled slugs.
Hey again, any recommendations for a good yet affordable Left handed auto for my 13yrd son? This year I gave him my over & under 20ga which he loves.
I was going to give him my cz920 I won at sheet shoot but knocks the safety being a South paw lol
I had the same problem with my tristar 20 gauge semi auto. I took it duck hunting for the second time and the second shot the charge handle flew off.
Went from a mossberg 500, and after getting out shot by all my buddies with autos, bought a weatherby sa-08. Its been a great gun, very reliable, lightweight, worked great. However once I grabbed the wrong ammo case before a hunt and had no shells. My buddy shot 3.5s and only had a few 3 inch shells. Felt like an idiot, so long story short next season i bought a browning silver hunter 3.5 inch. Its substantially heavier, but its an amazing shotgun. I kept the weatherby cause some people said 3.5 inch guns don't cycle skeet loads. Maybe some cheap 3.5s don't but my browning cycles everything so I just use the weatherby as a loaner/backup but its still a great gun. Long story short you get what you pay for, and if you are getting into Waterfowl, get an auto. Pumps have their place but modern autos are extremely reliable and worth the money
Plz tell me 26 r 28 barrel is best for duck hunting with modified choke???
What are your experiences with the beretta a300 outlander?
+Collin Culberson I don't have any experience with it
BobbyGuyFilms ok, it's what both my dad and I use. Iweve had one problem with them where we hadn't cleaned them since july, and had a serious cold snap in January that froze the gunk, but other than that, it has been perfect
My old Winchester model 1200 still going
Bobby I am a huge waterfowl hunter and I've had a super x2 and the x3 but at the end of the day I always go to my Remington 870
I loved my pump, but I upgraded to a super black eagle last season and its the best decision I made.
+Jay Murphy Can't go wrong there man
O/U
Or
SxS , it seems the rest are prone to failure.
Shoot my red label alot, bought it new in the early 80s shoots like the day I bought it.
Worth 2x what I paid for it.
Benelli nova for a beginner. Everything up to 3 1/2" shells and it's inexpensive.
Riley Allen never shot anything other than a pistol, picked up a SuperNova 3 days ago
Shoot a Benelli Supernova or Remington 870 to start with because they're rugged, tough, fairly inexpensive pump-action shotguns. Then graduate to a nice autoloader like a Benelli Super Black Eagle II/III or Franchi Affinity. Pump-actions aren't easy to use and they really allow you to appreciate a quality autoloader.
Very easy, very practical!
I got a TriStar viper g2 that was 500 its is great and its the cheapest left handed semi I've ever hear of so
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Do you know anything about legacy escort magnum 12 ga? I bought one last year, works great so far but haven't seen a lot of info on them. or many reviews.
+Bradley Owens no sir
I just bought my first shotgun Mossberg 835 ulti mag used from Cabelas for $300 I'm gonna be using it for waterfowl turkey dove and hopefully pheasant. I'm in Texas so I'm gonna hunt whatever I can with it. If anyone has any comments about the gun let me know
I'm purchasing a new gun here soon. And I'm tied between a baretta a300 and a franchi affinity. Any recommendations.
+V8outdoors Haha both great guns
Ok, I've never shot the baretta by I have shot the affinity and it's a great gun
V8outdoors go for the franchi. i bought the a300 and it sucks. the finish scratches so easy and i had problems with it cycling
I've had the a 300 for 2 seasons now. I've only cleaned it once per season, which I know I should probably do it more often. Despite this it has only jammed once and that was at the very end of this past season. It does scratch a little bit easy, but isn't too bad. Highly recommend it, good gun for the price.
A300 xtrema is supposed to be a awesome gun
I have a Remington 887 nitro mag and it shoots well but when i pump it, I cannot get it to put a 3 1/2 in round in the chamber. It will chamber and eject the the 3 1/2 inch rounds but will not cycle them. If anyone has any ideas on how to fix this let me know
I shoot a franchi also and I love it. The reason it is like a Beneli is that Franchi is owned by Beneli
I have a stoeger m3500 and it's about 600 dollars and it's a great cheaper semi auto gun I have had no problems with the m3500 but I have heard bad stuff about the m3000.
Subscribed, great vid. Picked up an affinity earlier this year and have loved it thus far. Curious what choke(s) you typically use with this gun?
I have a TriStar Hunter mag mossy oak camo for two years now I've shot well over 1200 rds (89% steel)I paid 700$ for it's a pig it's been to Davie Jones locker multiple times frozen and it keeps eating everything I throw in it. TriStar makes good guns I also have a TriStar viper g2 chrome 20ga it also eats everything you put in it it has 3yrs of complete abuse. The problem I've noticed from my buddies once you buy a sbe or super vinci is most Ppl baby them because they paid 1500+ no point in having a gun you can't beat up!!!
+Me Clay Agree man! Even though I spent 800 bucks I'm gonna use it just like I've used the rest. Sounds like I have a bit higher end of tristar than myself. I live the tristar, just need to rebuild it. Most comfortable gun I've owned
I just picked up a Mossberg 930 for the season. The Tristar is a great beginner piece.
I'm starting out with a Browning Maxus. NOT a bargain price at all. I'm new to duck hunting and struggled on deciding to drop that much on a shotgun, especially with needing waders, decoys, calls, etc. I really don't want to buy a new shotgun every three to five years though so I am hoping it lasts me the rest of my life.
Franchi is owned by benelli so a affinity is the same thing as a m2 just with a different shape.
Far from the same thing
never had any problem with my 870 but i would use my 1100 for duck i think though
For my money Id rather shoot my handloaded hevi shot out of a pump over a semi auto with steel. That's just my preference. A 3" with 1.5 oz of Hevi Shot B or #2's through a full choke will drop a Honker at 65 yards with ease. I also think it's more worth someone's time and money to have and inexpensive gun and lots of rounds of practice vs $1K gun with little practice. I will probably get a semi auto once I have filled out my decoy spreads. My cousin is an idiot. He would rather have a semi auto than a full decoy spread.
I have the 20 gauge version of the franchi and i love it
I completely agree benelli is super expensive but I was able to get a brand new super Vinci for $20 and I absolutely love it if I had to I would buy it for full price
Got it for 20 from a buddy who won it in a raffle and only had to buy the ticket
Good job
You told good point in last,
Buy expensive :)
Man I sure love my affinity it’s an amazing gun I’ve killed plenty of ducks, dove, geese, sand hill cranes, and even a few hogs with that thing and it’s still running like a dream
I have a tri-star and it is very nice and well put together. Mostly on cheaper guns you will see a trigger off a Daisy pellet gun.
Imagine that another engineer that knows nothing about guns probably designed that trigger on the cheapest shotgun you can fine but that’s all beside the point back to what I was saying
I can definitely tell you trigger is crisp and I would have paid 400 more if that was my only option.
I paid 700 for the bronze edition G2 12 gauge. I will agree with you it is very cheap, meaning cheep price
Picked up a girsan mc312 I’d put it up against any high dollar gun