How to MIG Weld Cast Iron on a Wood-Burning Cook Stove
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- This is the stove my Mom learned how to cook in the 30' & 40's made by The Jacobs MFG CO (The Jacobs Manufacturing Company) of Bridgeport ALA (AL, Alabama). It is called the New Victor No 817X. It had very few problems and appears to not be missing any parts or accessories at all. One leg has been broken for years but, using the method I saw on the "BC Truck" TH-cam channel, was able to complete the repair. THANKS BRAD! Here is the link to BC Truck: Check him out; you might just learn something about homesteading and repairing things: / @bctruck
While I was working on the stove, I decided to go ahead and apply Stove Black or Stove Wax to the outside. I ended up repairing the bullet hole after the video had ended so it is now back to to a usable condition. One word of caution; when welding cast iron, go slow! Don't make a long pass with the welder. It will generate too much heat and crack the cast iron. When the puddle gets red hot, stop and let the cherry go away before proceeding. (Of course, this is my opinion) This seems to be the way to get it done safely. I imagine you could use the same technique for welding cast iron exhaust manifolds, pots, pans, or other cookware such as a dutch oven, cast iron tools, antiques cast iron items or decorative cast iron.
I plan on using this stove soon to see just how cool it is to prepare food on one of these things. It certainly won't hurt to get ready for a power outage, grid-down condition or scenario either.
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I have been welding for 40 years. I have welded a lot of cast iron. The best way I have found is to use a nickel or stainless steel rod. (using an old stick welder) It is malleable enough to keep the weld from cracking. Using the nickel rod, I can weld cast just like anything else. Pre heating thin parts is still a good idea.
Great to know! Thanks for the information.
Crown Alloys make a MIG wire stout enough to weld exhaust manifolds. My machinistbros use it to repair ancient cast sausage production machinery etc.
Great tip! Thanks for sharing
What a wonderful old stove so practical and useful from the days I think when people were more content and appreciative of the wonderful everyday basics and aspects of life and didn't yearn after $30 dollar kitchens and don't cook in them!
We agree! That old stove raised a family of 10!!
Thank you for the video!
I just fixed a long hairline crack on a wood stove and did the same thing, heating it up to 500 degrees before welding. My only problem was every time I tack welded all I heard was tink tink tink. I was going slow not trying to have to much heat from the welder, but I was chasing more hairline cracks coming off of the original crack. Finally I got it. Next I will put some fire cement over it for extra protection.
Thank you!
Great tip!
You need to drill a 1/4" hole at each end of the crack. This will stop more cracks as you weld. Use either a cast iron wire (mig) or stick. If not braze it. If you use regular steel filler wire it heats and expands differently than cast iron and will cause more cracks
That’s great that it’s on, I used to arc weld cast iron and we also preheated the parts and used special low hydrogen rods to prevent cracking
Good deal. I was using what I had and it held... for now
Glad it worked for you. Looking forward to seeing it in use. That's a cool little kitchen stove. Wouldn't you like to hear it's stories?
+BCtruck, rebuild, repair,repurpose I've heard some from Mom but i'm sure the Stove saw it ALL! I bought some stove pipe today I just have to figure out where I'm going to put it now.
Beautiful work! Glad you used polish and not paint. Looks amazing :-)
That would look horrible painted
That looks awesome now! I have a woodstove that the door hinge broke on. I'm going to try it out! Thanks!
Take it slow and easy. good luck!
I just bought a Sears Roebuck wood cookstove No. 197. I believe its the same stove. Has the No 817X on top.cool stove!
Does it have the shelf under the door? I have two I am looking at restoring. please email me either way unreper@mi.rr.com.
Id imagine its the same. In reality, Sears sold everything back years ago but I doubt they actually made much at all; just re branded other companies products. Of course, I could be incorrect.
Oh my gosh I love this!
Thanks for the comment
great video regards from england
Thanks Colin! Its holding up well.
I would have not welded the leg to the stove itself, instead I would have found a piece of carbon graphite, cut a piece to match of same thickness of the slot that leg fits into and the same shape of the tang on the leg, then used the welder to build up the area of that was broken off, the mig wire will not fuse to the carbon and after completion of the repair, the carbon could be chipped out and the leg could be removed in the event the stove needed to be dismantled sometime in the future to facilitate a more compact package. By the way I have an old Cast Iron Church Bell that was cast by the same company that made that stove,, it was missing the clapper, the pendulum piece that rang the bell, I used a trailer hitch ball and made one from it, still have it and is mounted on a Red Aromatic Cedar pole, the bell itself is a #4 which the bottom of the bell shape is approx.. 24 inches in diameter and is about 18 inches high not counting the cradle and arm that the bell swings on. The bell was cast in 1847.
That must be a cool old bell. I hope you find the replacement parts. Good luck!
That bullet hole just gives it caricature
If I recall, we later determined that was a place where a bolt had been broken off. I like the bullet hole story better
Nice job. I do think the secret to any of this stuff is a good pre heat. As I said below I had success with a 7018 on one of these but not til I heated it cherry red first. Slow cool helps too I think. If possible of course.
Thanks for the info!
That leg hmmm mine has a whole carriage that it sits on
Here's a pic of mine
Video actually
I’m sure there were many different designs.
When you took off the top in the middle there was a part holding it up. Do you happen to know the name of that part?
That stove is long gone but I think you are referring to the support.
good job
Thank you!
Thought you were going to close up the crack by the broken bolt (bullet hole:). Our old heater/stove has some broken cast pieces that I am going to either braze or mig. I've got a Lincoln mig 100; I hope I can get enough power out of it.
The firebox doors have many segments of mica, some broken. I wonder where I can find some of that?
You've inspired me. 👍Thanks
I bet that welder will work especially if you preheat if with a propane torch before welding. Good luck
@@JustPlainCommonSense Excellent thanks. I found some mica, by the way, on amazon
You’re exactly right!
I would love to find a little cook stove like that.Can you imagine how nice that would be after a bad storm or power outage you could cook when everyone else can't so handy.I take that paste polish mix it with a small amount of water in a can or something and use an old paint brush to do mine.Oh letting you know you probably found out after polishing frist fire its going to stink some fumes of that polish when you get it hot.I never knew they made cook stoves that small.I have 2 eyed pot belly cook stove.
I used a tiny pot belly stove in Greece and wish I still had it now.
I lived in Blytheville AR from 1986 - 1992. Had to leave when we closed the Air Base down.
@@JustPlainCommonSense Oh wow you are frist person I have ver talked to thats from where I live now.Yes blytheville has gone down alot.Sadly things have not got better here crime is bad and people have left the city population has dropped alot..The base is now called the aeroplex the city park is used there and other things have located there now.Thanks good to here of a neighbor from here.Thanks paul
I've been back a few times since then and am aware of how the area took a dive. I lived at 1301 Holly in a corner house owned by a local lawyer/landlord. I honestly had a blast there. We didn't have a dime to our name but always found a way to get by and loved it.
@@JustPlainCommonSense Thats so cool.Yeah we aint rich lol but we get by..
We like you bro
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Great work and very informative thanks, but what sort of welding wire did you use?
Its a easy grind wire commonly used in auto body repair.
Blimey! Ok thanks.
I think the stuff is actually referred to as "Easy Grind". It's nothing special at all; just a good all-purpose welding wire. Not stainless.
I had an old stove that had a broken piece. Got a couple cast rods from Air Liquide but no joy. At the end we just used a 7018. Heated the piece cherry red, welded it, and wrapped it in fire blanket for a slow cool. Knock on wood it’s still down in the basement burning wood as we speak. Nice job btw.
I'm working on an old pot belly stove that has one cracked trim piece. I was thinking about trying to weld it with a welder similar to yours. Was that just regular welding wire? Great video. Thanks.
+deere3321 That is just "Easy Grind" wire in a gas MIG wire welder. Preheating is the trick
How much volts are you using while welding? Also what wire speed?
That is a 110V MIG. I can't recall the speed; whatever speed made the weld sound right.
late to the game, but did you do anything with the inside of the oven with that black paste? I have an old gas stove that has a log of rust on the inside and sheet metal that is rusted through that I am trying to get back to a usable state.
I wouldn't apply it to the inside; it may contaminate whatever gets cooked in there.
I cant figure out how to send pics on here lol I'm kinda old fashined
I’m not sure it is even possible to do.
So how did your welds hold up? Did they crack or break off after you used the stove? Or are they still intact?
They are still holding up just fine. The stove doesn't get disassembled and moved around at all; it just stays in one place. No problems at all.
Can flux core be use if no gas is available ? Thanks
I don't see why not. Give it a try and let us know how it worked out. Thanks for the comment!
@@JustPlainCommonSense weld a small cast iron part and dump it on ash to let it slow cool down and it work great, using Lincoln flux core .035 and a small century wire welder
MY MOM HAD A STOVE JUST LIKE.
THAT, NICE TO SEE YOU TAKING CARE OF IT. ALOT OF GOOD MEMORIES OF HER AND THE GREAT MEALS & BREAD SHE FED US WITH THAT LITTLE STOVE. THANKS FOR SHARING.
Your welcome.
Thanks for the comment
I have one exactly like that I wonder what they are worth
Not much I suppose. I had a tough time even giving mine away
Ditto would of remade leg slot...but still way cool little stove.
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I recently got one of these stoves from a auction and all the legs have been repaired (welded) does anyone make recast parts?
+Jeff Davis You might find a blacksmith or foundry that can take the best leg and pour 4 of them for you in cast iron.
or if you need new replacements cast email me at unreper@mi.rr.com. I have a full set we can send one out to have a set cast for you.
I was looking at my oven it has the same hole as your bullet hole in the same place. pretty sure it's not a bullet hole
+5 Acres on the Bayou yes
+5 Acres on the Bayou send me your email or # I can text you a pic of mine I will send you a pic
+Jeff Davis You are absolutely correct Jeff. I just took the top off the stove and there are two bolts that come through the outside skin and support the top of the oven box. What I saw was the head of the old stove bolt. My bad. Thanks for letting me know. The mystery has been solved!
+Jeff Davis My email is in the About section.
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