STUDIO SEE - PBS Kids Show 1979
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- Technical Behind-the-Scenes from STUDIO SEE - PBS - South Carolina ETV
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See also "Digital Video Effects - The History of the DVE"
Film & Television Director-Writer-Editor Keoni Tyler in Hollywood
Shave-down version
Excerpt, Recorded in Hawaii on Betamax and VHS off-air from KHET-TV 11 PBS
"STUDIO SEE" was one of those cool kids shows back in the 1970s that PBS aired - it showed all the great, positive things that kids did in their lives.
One day, they did a behind-the-scenes 'making-of' episode, and me being a video geek, I had to record it.
I've shaved down the 30-minute episode and annotated it for the geek in you. ;)
This is how all videotape editing was done after splicing (1950s-60s) and before non-linear computer systems like the AVID. Believe it or not, some linear editing still exists today, especially for live or day-of-air quick rush broadcasting - where there is no time to ingest to hard-drives before editing can be started.
It is also interesting to note for many new generation editors, directors and producers that when the AVID non-linear edit system first debuted in the early 1990's, its $100,000 price tag and limited hard-drive storage space and RAM, as well as general limitations of the early Mac it ran on forced quality at about VHS consumer quality - not good enough for air or finishing. But it was great for revisions and changes in off-line (editorial) - similar to the difference of typing on a manual typewriter and having to re-type a whole page to insert one sentence - compared to on a word-processor like Microsoft Word and just cutting-and-pasting the sentence before printing.
It took many years for technology to allow the Avid to have higher-capacity and high-speed hard drives and better video cards to do near-broadcast quality for air, so on-line editing (the expensive finishing session) was still done linearly. You would take the Avid edit decision list (EDL) into an on-line suite and assemble like in this Studio See on-line session. For younger kids: "on-line" and "off-line" has nothing to do with the internet. It meant best-quality expensive gear controlled by computers (on-line) compared to cheaper gear with poorer quality (off-line) to sit and take time making decisions about edits - therefore not burning expensive on-line time fiddling around with experimental edits.
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R.I.P. REID RONDELL, Stuntman
Thank you PBS, Studio See, Jayne Adair & Glenn Young, for inspiring a kid!
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Wow! Talk about a "Blast from The Past". Hadn't seen Studio See or heard anything about it in over 40 years. I was 6, maybe 7 yrs old sitting on my Grandma's living room floor watching this.
WOW! This truly takes me back to the simplest time in my life. When I was a kid, I used to watch PBS religiously. From Sesame Street to Vegetable Soup to Zoom to this particular show. IMHO, PBS had a wider variety of educational shows back in those days. Nowadays, IMHO, there isn't much variety anymore. Back then, PBS had educational shows to please particular groups of people and even programs where you could discuss what one would do in a situation, such as Inside/Out, Self Incorporated and a few others. I also used to watch Mister Rogers' Neighborhood and The Electric Company. I also remember other possibly long forgotten PBS shows, such as Our Modern Language and Under the Blue Umbrella. I also remember Truly American, The Letter People, The Song Bag, Let's All Sing a Song, Today, Cover to Cover, The Word Shop, All About You, Clyde Frog, Vision On, and Gather 'Round. It makes me wish that I could transform myself back into being a kid again and go back in time to watch these wonderful PBS shows again. Thanks for sharing and bringing back many wonderful childhood memories.
Now, THIS is when educational television actually lives up to the name educational television! I have been Googling Studio SEE for a while, and I am glad that for once a bit of an episode actually made it to youtube!
Thanks for watching, Meredith!
They still do (Frontline, PBS News Hour, etc), but the market and broadcasting changed, especially after the Internet and video on the Internet was a possibility, and audiences become more sophisticated. But the core of your message is important to always have as their Mission Statement! :)
@@KeoniFilmTV hey im watch
RIP Reid, those were the days when stunts bore so much more risk. You can see how much he enjoyed performing from this early age.
This footage is priceless for so many reasons. If you still have cassettes I'd be proud to archive more.
man i never missed an episode of this show when i was young
Writing for my dad:
Thanks for the high praise for Studio See,
Gene Upright, Executive Producer
Love this music 🎶
I don't remember anything about this show other than "Studio See" was on Nickelodeon in the very early '80's. Thank you for posting this.
:) Thnx for watching. If Nickelodeon re-ran it, then the show was definitely re-mastered from its 2-inch tape onto a format more popular in the 80s, like 1-inch reel to reel Type C, (see Sony BVH-3000/3100 or Ampex VRP-6) or Betacam SP (1/2" cassette).
the man knows his broadcast gear!
I'm impressed. You took it off the air onto a Beta machine. I always thought Beta had a far superior picture to VHS, alas beta came in second. Then you dubbed it to VHS? Wow, I think the picture is pretty amazing, considering what we're watching. Thanks for posting this. Funny thing is, these guys are probably just a couple of years younger than I am... so I'm guessing they'd be in their late 50's by now! Amazing! I was sorry to hear about the kid who was killed. I bet he'd have gone far.
Love watching the technology of yesteryear. When I first got into TV, this is what it looked like. Far better than just computer screens they work with now. They missed all the fun!
Working for local tv station from 1988-97 they were still using most of this equipment. I have back problems from carrying the 3/4 record decks while shooting news. It was horrible and unreliable and you were blamed for its instability if something went wrong with those decks.Those 2 inch machines were still around in early 2000s at stations I worked. I used to edit 3/4 as well.
it's shows like this that make me wish being a kid
+Taylorvision745 :D
Thank you for asking ! I will look in my library for other episodes and let you know. The production values on this show were amazing for its time - given the weight of gear. The team really went out of their way to tell good stories in the best way, and always in A-class technical style!
Studio See, now that's something I haven't seen in a very long time.
Studio See was the stuff dreams were made of, from a great time of innocence 4 me, I miss it.....
EN22U :D
I really miss shows like this. When I was a kid, I'd watch PBS every day after school. I don't remember this show, but I loved 3-2-1 contact. I would have watched this show, too, and soaked it all in. I came here to see what Reid Rondell looked like because I've been reading Rob Lowe's book. It's a shame there aren't any pictures of him online, as though he didn't really exist somehow. He was a cute kid! He died doing what he loved - may he rest in peace. Anyway, thanks for uploading this. I enjoyed watching it. :)
Another very cool show -- making science cool with no apologies! Luckily there are several "3-2-1 Contact" clips/episodes on TH-cam. #NostalgiaRocks Also cool that you'd find this because of Reid Rondell #R.I.P.
+Keoni Tyler :D
Thank you Keoni for this video. I would like to thank the staff and crew for a wonderful program. I used to love watching Studio See on Kcet tv channel 28 the pbs affiliate in Los Angeles when I was a little kid. All the programs were intriguing and never bored me. I loved the opening of the show.
Studio See emphasized the positive of what young people were doing at a time when news headlines seem to show a lot of negative. Sorry about the lip sync issue on this - don't know what happened during TH-cam's processing. A cleaner version is on my Vimeo site.
vimeo.com/lookingatarthur - It's a quirky site because unlike TH-cam, I use it more for internal work and private screeners, and not for the general public like here on YT. Thanks for asking, David!
Fantastic video...
Very good memory, David. Agree that a modern revival of this and ZOOM would be cool! Thanks for writing and watching.
thank you so much for sharing.
judacia :)
Nice to see both an AVR-1 and AVR-2 in this video
I loved this show
I had a cool smooth jamming theme song. . .
People in the video/audio production industry would have gone bonkers if they had Pro Tools and other software based recording and editing capabilities. Although recording with tape and using older analog based technology still has its fan base.
Yes, but also, to correct something you wrote: D1 (the first digital videotape recorder from Sony), D2, D3, D5, Digital Betacam; and HDCAM/SR and D5-HD are all tape based, but digital interpreted media. See The Academy's excellent paper on "THE DIGITAL DILEMMA" (at www.Oscars.org) on how file-based media (QuickTime files, Windows Media) and constantly changing operating systems, interfaces, codecs, wrappers all make the archiving of media dangerous. When we archive hard-drive/server data, it is often on LTO cartridge, which is, uh, tape.
Awesome. Just a few months later, I started in VT, just a little very keen teenager. :)
I didn't remember this show until i heard the theme music!
Hi Edgar - I have a few episodes on Betamax and VHS - but they are in Hawaii. I also hope South Carolina ETA kept those 2-inch masters around, or PBS has them in vaults. Hawaii local ETV (KHET-11 PBS) threw out a ton of their 2-inch tapes to the landfill - sadly. :(
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the part at the end where the camera was pointed at the sun worried me about the camera tube haha. great video!
I was 15 years old when this show was made, dont remember seeing it then, but I did watch PBS(KCTS Seattle) shows like Nova, and other specials and youth oriented stuff. I loved the skateboard scene at 02:54 I was a hardcore skateboarder then, I did handstands and skated with friends similar to the kids, who would of been my age. Cool memories.
Cool story - thanks for watching and taking the time to write! Even though the scene is shot on video and not film -- thus giving it a soap-opera look and losing some dramatic effect -- it is a credit to the directors, DP and editors for making it look so amazingly real when Reid hits the car; it doesn't look fake/tacky. They were really talented artists -- the show was VERY high quality and the pictures looked and edited amazingly, in spite of the lousy VHS quality here. My VIMEO version of this doesn't have the lip-sync issue that this TH-cam version has.
I knew Reid Rondell's parents personally. Amazing video. Thanks for posting it.
Thnx for watching, Vincent!
Are they alive today? Mr. Rondell (father) also passed away on a filming accident, right?
Keoni Tyler right.
I so remember Studio See. Thanks for sharing this with us all. I wonder if you remember The Righteous Apples? The music on that show was really good.
It's great to see the old PBS ID. I don't remember Studio See. And now I work for PBS. AVID stands for "All Video Is Dead." That's what we call it here. We've had problems with AVID. Great presentation of the behind-the-scenes look of Studio See. I wish shows like this were still around.
Great reply Bob. When Akio Morita (founder of Sony) rolled out D1 videotape in 1986, the first, real-time (no waiting for renders) digital video/audio format, I saw it as the beginning of what we are doing today, but honestly I never thought a "home computer" would ever have the memory, speed, processing power and storage to do 'broadcast-quality' video let alone 2K, 4K, 8K resolutions as we are pushing today. I have collected EVERY major video format in an apartment, and plan to donate it to the Motion Picture Academy (AMPAS) for their museum where the public can see all the machines light-up.
Keoni, 01:04 You never saw a poor quality video. My VHS It-s a good example PALM Frankenstein system tv analog in Brazil until 2007 - 2016 transition time to shut off analog system tv inside my country. 2007 first time digital tv terrestrial, 2016 last year to switch off analog system network tv signal.
CBS has done a great job of archiving their history. But they can also play any tape format ever made. They have an area called "Jurassic Park" that has 2 inch, betamax, MII, 3/4, one inch, D2, etc. They even have a special system to 'bake' tapes that have been sitting too long and stick together. The archives hold the first videotape ever made there in the 50s and it still plays
My friend helps CBS Television City's engineers maintain some of those older machines. Unlike automobiles, where if an old model breaks down, a new car will do the job of getting you from here to there, I wish Congress/Library would get their act together and force companies who make film, video, data machines, to produce parts and maintenance machines in perpetuity. This is our cultural heritage, after all, and mankind or any country's future survival will depend on the future generation having access to what we produce on record of man's life. Your PHONE charger connector and Operating System has changed so many times, apps have to upgrade to keep up. If Digital came first in movie-making, and 35mm film came only now, would we be able to watch Gone With The Wind or The Wizard of Oz or Star Wars? Probably not. Those hard drives would be rotting away with connectors no longer made; operating systems that preceded Windows 1/MS-DOS Ver 1 and Apple Mac OS before "9." And digital today has made archiving worst - photographers, filmmakers OVER shoot and KEEP everything; so studios have to re-visit the media every 5 years to determine deterioration and also, access being obsolete. The 2-inch machine in this video lasted 30 years, from 1956 to 1986 (1-inch Type invented in 1978/intro'd in 1979 would still take years to adopt and install, so every older format hangs around even when newer ones come into play). Someone found a lost episode of THE HONEYMOONERS in a garage after their grandfather died. If this had been 2040, I am sure they would not be able to find a 2-inch machine and an engineer who would know how to play that tape to transfer it to what we use today.
"Studio See" producer Jayne Adair, seen at 1:21 of this video, later went on to work for various TV stations in the Pittsburgh area, both commercial and non-commercial, in various managment capacities, and later headed up a Pittsburgh area arts organization.
I reached out to her just before she retired, and she was gracious in taking her valuable time to respond to me! I wonder if any of the crew/editors are alive and well? I looked-up to them. They had SMPTE "Timecode," which most local TV stations in smaller markets couldn't afford - I learned to edit "manually."
Still using 2" quad in 79... crazy.
The 1-inch Type C VTR was invented by both Ampex and Sony in 1976; but, production models would really not be sold until 1977/78. Then, there is a slow rate of adoption. Only the biggest stations could afford to buy the latest gear at the moment of release. I didn't see 1-inch VTRs in action until 1981, and only when I flew to L.A. to do some post - 2-inch VTRs were still everywhere... from their birth in 1956 thru 1985. Some smaller stations still used them until 1991/92.
To make it as unpredictable as we can,
We have to plan!
Sounds logical.
Do you happen to have any more episodes? I would love to see the entire intro. I also remember the end credits tune was pretty cool variation on the theme.
Does someone have the opening and closing credits to this show? I loved the music!!! Pure 70s!!!
I will look.
Sad, yet true, especially for shows that long ago ceased and archival funding was not thought of. A.M.P.A.S. has published excellent technical papers on the "Digital Dilemma" - where software and film/video capture to digital is not guaranteed for access just 5-10 years from the origination date. Had Gone With the Wind or The Wizard of Oz been digitally captured, generations today would probably not be able to see it.
Series was rerun on Nickelodeon in 1981.
Thanks!
Was this the series finale?
Yes, I later learned it was!
Omg step up from 3/4? We woukd NEVER EVER do that in broadcast colors are horrible and time base is terrible. They needed an AMPEX 3000 portable quad. I work on every machine Ampex made. There is simply no substitute for quad. I think it was the best format
3/4-inch VTRs back then did not have SMPTE time code, and later it was a very expensive OPTION that Sony made available; and even then, studio 3/4-inch decks did not access that time code except on a linear audio track, which would have taken away 1 of only 2 tracks of sound. So the 3/4-inch bump-up added the timecode after-the-fact. But also, note the decks they used: Sony VO models; (VideO) -- the "Broadcast" division was not yet invented where top-of-line BVU edit-controllable decks were made (BVU-200, for example). So to have complete, frame-accurate CONTROL of a VTR along with SMPTE timecode, they HAD TO bump up to a controllable 2-inch machine. -keoni.
I gotta say, for third generation via consumer, that's not bad lookin' SD.
All U Matic tapes. Not Betacam (which came six years later)
Does anybody out there know how to find a listing of PBS shows that played during the early to mid seventies in the afternoon/evening hours. I watched a station out of Tallahassee back then. There are two shows in particular that I have never been able to find out anything about. One of them I think I have the title pinned down. The other I will know by a description of it since I never knew the title. I was in elementary school during these years and don't remember many details. Thanks a bunch!
I don't know about your PBS station, but in Hawai'i where I watched, the PBS station was also leased by the State's Department of Education, and aired all in-school educational programs during the day (since at the time, VCRs weren't common, and of course, there was no Internet. Schools would of course show 16mm films that teachers would order from a central library and borrow, but a lot of programs for 4th thru 7th graders came via the PBS station). What this means is that after school, from 1:30pm~4pm, the station would often air the programs in advance as 'teacher previews,' and thus print these programs in an educational guide distributed to all school teachers. I kept a few of those guides, listing the programs. If you are speaking of these type of "ETV" programs (one example might be an acclaimed psychological series called "Inside/OUT" th-cam.com/play/PLllZn0B_ivULC4zmD798Q1K3zFV51RNjh.html ) - then I may be able to help in the future when I retrieve those guides.
@@KeoniFilmTV Thanks for the response. It was done differently here in the panhandle of Florida. PBS was not connected in any way with public schools here. Very interesting how it was for you.
A lot of 2-inch tapes sit in vaults and were not migrated to newer formats today. With AMPEX and RCA Broadcast out of the business, working machines and spare parts (and brilliant engineers who can repair them) are harder to come by. The CARSON library has been excellently migrated and the originals remain preserved.
Hi Keoni, I was actually on this show back in 1978. There was a segment done about me and another teenager performing in the Spoleto Festival. Unfortunately I never got to see it and can’t find it online...would you be able to direct me toward someone/something that may have that episode? Any help is greatly appreciated.
@@andremuhammad3672 WOW! Thank you for writing! I will post the entire episode unedited in the future. Take care and thanks again for letting me know!
Keoni Tyler thank you so much! 💕
Does anyone know the name of the pbs show that showed an outline of the state of South Carolina forming in the intro while kids sang the theme? I saw it around 1981.
I DO remember that opening logo "signature," but can't recall. Will calling the station and following-up with an e-mail get someone to research it?
Sorry to say. Now what you have on PBS is 24/7 pledge breaks. The quality has dipped since then. Thank G-d for the britcoms, Nova, and Nature.
It costs less than 1 cup of coffee, per person, per year, to fund PBS as it stands now. Imagine if the President was a visionary LEADER and not a politician, and they gave PBS the equivalent of a SUBWAY 12-inch sandwich lunch, just one, just once per year, per person. Your pledge drives would disappear. I've been in this business ever since shows like this made me want to write, direct, edit, run a camera -- so I know that film/tv production with high production values is very expensive to produce, and to broadcast it, even more so. Thank you for your comment. -keoni tyler, from Honolulu to Hollywood.
joseph dunn I think the word "dipped" is a bit of an understatement. The quality completely crashed and burned.
Reid looks like Jan-Michael Vincent. No wonder he worked on Airwolf.
Yes!
L O G O D E T E C T E D
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...and all those tapes probably wound up wiped or dumped anyway.
DId you see the Carson library kept miles underground in a salt mine, already transferred to Digital Betacam and digital files by his nephew?
Update: Studio See's 2-inch masters were dubbed to Sony Digital Betacam and preserved and aired. As to what happened to 2-inch tapes after that, I don't know, but I believe they were still saved in underground salt mines. It can take 30-days+ for a major studio like 20th Century Fox to requisition that old legacy masters are brought back up from underground salt mines for access, according to my friends at TC-Fox.
love your video and the content however I have a problem with someone talking to me about video editing when they clearly have not taken time to edit the audio
The audio on this shave-down edit is in PERFECT SYNC as edited, and as evidenced when I did the same upload to my Vimeo account. At the time, TH-cam and their after-upload compression must have done something so the audio fell out of sync. I apologize for the lip-sync issue, but YTube won't let me re-attempt the upload here without losing the comments and view counts.
And now you can get better results shooting and editing on an iPhone🙄
betamax lost
Only because Sony was too 'greedy' with the format. It had the much better picture quality (see Betamax ED - Extended Definition). In the late 70s/early 80s, most Betamax models were Sonys with $1200 price tags -- Panasonic/JVC let others make VHS, so the store would have 12 different companies making various models, with $899 avg. prices. Just like Mac vs. PC, where only Apple makes Macs and thus they are more expensive -- but have the better, elegant OS/quality, VHS reigned because of price.