My favorite Kevin Conroy moment, and what makes me call him this universe's Batman, is what he did in reaction to 9/11. He joined the cleanup as a volunteer, but kept his identity a secret. Eventually however, one of the emergency workers figured out his secret identity, and it got out. With all the bodies and wreckage and the general gloom of the situation, he got drafted into being the impromptu therapist for a ton of emergency workers, in character, as Batman. Like... Batman was at the 9/11 cleanup because of him, supporting and helping people.
You never know; maybe Gotham waits until the last minute to put up their Christmas Trees after that one year Poison Ivy rigged them to get up and attack once they're decorated. Everyone's waiting for some other sap to be the canary in case she tries it again.
Eh, it was the Golden Age. As I recall, Superman also kidnapped and threatened to drop a mean 10 year old to his death from skyscraper height around the same time.
Okay I did rewatch that episode you seem to have misremembered the “dropping” part, in fact Superman directly says he’s not going to do that to try to calm down the kid
Setting up a tree on Christmas Eve was the old American tradition. Partially because people used to leave it up until epiphany celebrating the 12 days of Christmas.
My mother told me that when she was young (1950's) That yes, people didn't decorate for Christmas until Christmas Eve, with her family not doing it until after she had gone to bed, saying Santa did it.
Sasha from "Casually Comics" recently previewed some panels from this issue ( Batman and Robin kidnapping the kid while Santa guy watches) and I wondered what the heck this story was about. Now I know. Thanks to Linkara and Sasha for revealing this Bat-Christmas madness.
I want them to do a crossover so bad. They both go for this funny as hell super nasally Peter Parker voice and I want them to do a Clone Saga comic with both voices bouncing off each other
Funny that you do Bale Batman voice for a 1940s comic when he probably should sound more like Adam West. Makes the whole thing more ridiculous and I love it!
Actually, this IS structured rather like a Christmas Carol - a miserly rich jerk is taken on a journey to see the effects of their past actions, then stuff that's happening now, and then what will happen if they keep up their miserly ways. Heck, you could even stretch it into the symbolism of the three events paralleling the ghosts - the Ghost of Christmas Past is associated with candles and flame and light, which fits the flaming Christmas Tree; the Ghost of Christmas Present in particular is associated with charity and generosity, which fits Scranton paying for the hospital bills; and of course the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come is a spectre of death, which fits the scheme to murder Scranton's uncle to cover up their scheme. Plus, Scranton's story opens with him working on Christmas Eve when he's paid a visit by a festive, pleasant relative who tries to encourage him to celebrate the holidays like Scrooge's nephew does for him, and Batman and Robin take Scranton to visit to an impoverished couple struggling to made ends meet ala Bob Cratchet. The only aspect of A Christmas Carol without a clear analog is Jacob Marley, but the rest fits.
Scranton's deceased uncle has about half of the Marley role, as the other tightwad of the story, but obviously doesn't have the opportunity to come back to warn Scranton about changing his ways. In fairness, it probably wouldn't have fit in with this ostensibly modern-day setting...
This has everything I love about Golden Age comics: a batshit insane plot, purple prose-y, cheesy dialogue, and the heroes engaging in highly legally questionable actions to mess with some rich fucks.
You know, this reminds me of an old review you did WAY back when with Superman basically doing the same thing as Batman does here, except he fought a pair of rich jerks with a rocket ship that were bent on destroying Christmas because they never had a good Christmas growing up.
Considering there's a lot of goofy Ringu spinoff media (like the comic where Sadako becomes a streamer); I would not be surprised if there was already one out there somewhere.
Old Geek, here, my good Linkara: indeed, for many families back in the 40s and 50s there was a tradition where Santa brought and set-up the tree! My father, born back in '37, told us about how his parents would always get the tree Christmas Eve, wait until he and his sister had gone to bed, and only then put it up as quietly as possible for the morning! Honestly, I don't know how my grandparents did it! It's hard enough getting all the shopping done let alone decorating a tree! :)
Kicks in the face leading to indigestion honestly isn't even remotely the weirdest idea in the DC universe. Also, I was really happy to see A Voice From The Dark get referenced. It doesn't get enough love.
The review of the Superman golden age story featuring Dr Grouch (of the Boston Grouches, no doubt) is one of my favorite AT4W Xmas episodes, so I’m really eager to see more golden age hijinks with Batman!
I had internet connectionisms and forgot to post this but some times people decorate weeks before Christmas but there are people especially with live trees who will get one days before. This can make it harder to find one on time but it also sees the price go down and it gives you a fresher tree rather then a tree that dies by Christmas.
Welcome back to the schedule, and fun episode! Also the tree thing: considering how common it was for people to use real trees and their lifespan afterwards, it probs was pretty common to wait to get a tree till the sort of last minute. When PVC/Plastic became more common, I think it did help the attitude of "hey we can literally decorate earlier and our tree won't start to rot and stink like Marville"
I put up a comment about how it was "in my day" (, but yeah, we started doing tree creep when we got an artificial tree we then had for years. Getting a tree in Brooklyn was a hassle [insert classic movie here]
I don't know about Batman not minding singing "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells." If Robot Chicken taught us anything, Batman and Robin are pretty ruthless when it comes to slander.
Wow a Voice in the Dark refrence haven’t had those ever. The lesson is there but the execution is of the times and thus gets a pass. Next time more fun times
Dude, I've wondered about that whole 'getting ready for Christmas on Christmas Eve' thing too! Every year when I watch Christmas Eve on Sesame Street I tilt my head and wonder why Gordon's just NOW putting up his tree, or why Cookie Monster thought his letter to Santa was going to reach the North Pole on time, or why Bert and Ernie are just NOW getting gifts for each other. And that's just the ONE special, there's so many specials that do that and it confuses the heck out'a me! How did that become such a cliché for narratives set at the yuletide?
I guess the idea is that getting ready the night before and managing to do so shows your love for Christmas. That it's a thing of the moment and not something you prepare before hand and just let sit until the time. Then again, I couldn't imagine the headaches I'd endure if I tried to do it on the night before. Hell, just thinking about it gives me an aneurism.
It's actually fairly commonplace. A LOT of people don't celebrate Christmas all December. A lot of people don't start celebrating until Christmas Eve. It's also a religious thing. Traditionally, it's customary to put up the Christmas Tree the last night of Advent or Christmas Eve. The Twelve Days of Christmas are Dec 25 to Jan 5. Epiphany is Jan 6. Christians believe that the 12 days of Christmas mark the amount of time it took after the birth of Jesus for the 3 Wise Men, to travel to Bethlehem.
That "most boys my age are stupid" bit makes me howl, because there is an exchange almost EXACTLY LIKE IT in Game of Thrones Arya Stark: Visenya Targaryen was a great warrior. She had a Valyrian steel sword she called "Dark Sister." Tywin Lannister: Hm. She's a heroine of yours, I take it. Aren't most girls more interested in the pretty maidens from the songs? Jonquil, with flowers in her hair? Arya Stark: Most girls are idiots.
I have never seen GoT, but it sounds like Anya would have a LiveJournal and post stuff like, "You wear flowers in your hair, I name my swords #notliketheothergirls"
"I get to wear a cape and punch people. That's its own reward." This is a Batman I could get to like. No angsty moping about dead parents, no unending war on crime, no flirtations with criminals of dubious sanity, just reveling in the joy of dressing up like a bat and engaging in fisticuffs.
To be fair, considering how often something must be on fire in Gotham, it probably did take a while for the firefighters to get around to the store. Batman and Robin should still have put the fire out, of course.
I think when you get a real tree for Christmas you have to get it closer to actual Christmas so it won't dry out and shed before the holiday. Still, Christmas Eve is really pushing it...
In many countries - like mine - people buy fresh real trees for Christmas, and if you put that up at the start of December they would probably be withered by Christmas time. In my family we put the tree up a few days before Christmas.
My families tradition is to put up the tree and decorate on Christmas Eve. That's just how we almost always did it. Mind you, we would actually get the tree and keep it in the barn way before Christmas eve, but yeah that is when we'd decorate for the holidays.
I prefer their second Christmas/Holiday episode. Christmas With The Joker is "fun", but it's an early-ish, introductory salvo episode, that's also about setting up the typical rhythms/ambitions of the show. See also: On Leather Wings. Holiday Knights, on the other hand, is, overall, a bit more about the spirit.
13:50 I think the swing through the city was what really did the job. Striking fear into the heart of criminals. Showed him what it's like to be powerless, helpless, and completely at the mercy of someone else.
Buying a tree and decorating it REALLY close to Christmas was probably how most people handled it back before artificial trees really took off and commercialism really set in. I mean, would YOU want to have to keep a live tree going for a MONTH? Better to buy it as close to Christmas as possible to reduce the amount of time you have to deal with watering the thing and cleaning up pine needles. Then add in the fact that people generally had a lot less leisure time back then, so dealing with the tree for that long is even more of a hassle... Plus, they didn't have electric lights, so they used candles, which was a major fire hazard if the tree got too dry...
Honestly, that reference to Voice from the Dark just proves to me that Some Jerk with a Camera had some of the more fun lines and deliveries in the drama.
5:09 There was a time where buying and setting it up at any given point in November was fine but these days if you don't buy your tree, gifts and decorations in September and set up the tree and other decorations Black Friday, you're doing it wrong lol.
Die Hard is only a Christmas movie in that it's set during Christmas. It is not a true Christmas movie. True Christmas movies are: Miracle on 34th Street (original) A Christmas Carol (Alastair Sim version)
I completely disagree. The Christmasy atmosphere is one of the best things about Batman Returns. Also, there was a great episode of Batman:TAS that centered around Christmas with Dick trying to get a reluctant Bruce to watch It's A Wonderful Life.
@@dreamlandnightmare That's the one that opens with the Joker escaping Arkham Asylum while singing "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells", right? A modern Christmas classic!
5:05 As I understand that was an old tradition, I'm willing to bet it started to decline once fake trees became a thing. We had a real pine tree one year and the pine needles just kept littering the floor the entire time we had it.
In my family, we usually buy our (real, not artificial) Christmas the day before Christmas Eve or so. Since here in Germany we celebrate Christmas actually on Christmas Eve, I guess this would be equivalent to buying a Christmas tree on Christmas Eve in the US 😀. We then let the tree stand until Epiphany. If we would buy it earlier it would be a dried husk until then, I think.
Buying a tree last minute was very common up until the latter part of the 20th century heck it was often only kept inside until boxing day at the latest, it was still considered a seasonal novelty popularised by Charles dickins and Queen Victoria and wasn't very common outside of the UK and certain parts of America according to some histories I've read. Also your logo covered the bottom of the word peril on the title card so it looked like it was. Christmas Peru
Linkara: how long has this fire been going? Me: oh, Linkara, my in-laws' favourite shopping mall caught fire last week and was burning for many hours...
Makes sense to review another Christmas related Batman comic this year, since you reviewed Batman: Noel 10 years ago, and it's thanks to your recommendation that I bought myself a copy a year later, and would read it every year since. That X-Files comic missed the opportunity to call itself The X-Mas Files. 5:21- My family used to put up the tree on the first weekend of December, but since graduating high school, I would put up the tree on either Black Friday or during Thanksgiving weekend. I also find it weird that movies and TV shows and specials would wait to put up their decorations a day or so before Christmas. Also, in Batman Returns, we see Alfred putting up the tree in Wayne Manor some days before Christmas Eve. 12:26- I would say "Owning a farm where they grow Christmas trees," but they still need to do SOMETHING to keep food on the table. 13:00- "Well, 'Bah, humbug" to you, too." -Robin, Batman: The Animated Series, "Christmas With the Joker" 13:53- Yeah, I doubt that would work on rich assholes like Trump.
Affording christmas isn't the end. Survive, get better, and think in what you have rather than what you don't. Things will get better eventually, but the first step is to calm down. BTW, 2022 started as the worst year of my life in a lot of ways including my economy so I know what I say.
Don't worry I'm perfectly calm it just sucks seeing all the Christmas stuff it sounds like I'm not working I'm working literally two jobs just never feels like it's enough but thank you for your good words
On Christmas trees and Christmas Eve: it used to be more common in the past. In reverse it was: light the tree decorations on Xmas Eve (traditionally candles), then set up the decorations on Xmas Eve (having the tree in advance), then set up the tree on Xmas Eve. There’s no definitive date for these changes,
To answer the question at 14:49, a kick to the face actually can give you stomach upset. If you start bleeding in your mouth or nose it can run down your throat and result in nausea. Something tells me that the person who wrote that line wasn't aware of that, though.
1:09 Wow so you did plab on covering something X-Files related on this channel :D 15:52 That plane is adorable! Next week more of our Lord and Saviour Mr T :D
I actually enjoyed Scranton's character quite a bit. Sure, pretty hamfisted in the way he viewed life and society, but how he acted felt like hammy fun.
To answer the Christmas tree question, it varies. Usually we have our tree up way ahead of time, but some years it gets so busy we are able to decorate until Christmas Eve. We do always have the tree itself before Christmas Eve, though,
Thoughts and responses. 5:20 I don't know how other people go about scheduling their holiday preparations, but I personally don't remember a year where we waited until Christmas Eve to set up our Christmas Tree. If that did happen, then it slipped my memory. As an example, this year my brother came over on Saturday December 3rd to handle this stuff. Granted, we were also devoting time to celebrating his birthday despite the actual day being on the 7th. But travel and work mean he only gets so many chances to be with us in person, and he's saving the next one for closer to Christmas. 10:57 In his defense, Tim was kept in the dark about how his nephew was raised up until the events of this comic. And the end results of that upbringing, paired with everything mentioned about the now deceased brother, makes it quite easy to believe that "Old Scrooge", as the story describes him, went through a lot of trouble blocking out anyone and anything that stopped him from "raising" his son to act exactly as he did. In addition, the way Tim reacted when Batman and Robin first entered his home makes it seem like he trusts and admires them quite a bit. Those factors combined tell me that Tim is trusting Batman and Robin to teach his nephew that pursuing money for its own sake is not the only way to live his life. 12:47 I know of at least one who would be willing to help if not for writers who keep going out of their way to make it harder for him to do so. 14:54 Given how convoluted the various retcons have become, I wouldn't be surprised if that was true during one of them.
I dunno about other families but we always get our tree about a week before Christmas, sometimes earlier. It gives the tree time to spread out from being bound up and for anything that hid in there to get out while it stays outside. The tree then goes up the day before and gets decorated on the 24th.
“Why? They’re stupid too- Doing all the things they do for nothing!” Scranton clearly only says this ‘cuz he’s jealous of Batman being smarter than him.
Robin: "HOLY YULETIDE TH-cam, BATMAN! LINKARA HAS UPLOADED A CHRISTMAS COMIC ON SCHEDULE!" BATMAN: "Right, old chum. It appears he used the Malware Repellent Bat-Spray to keep his editing suite free of viruses."
You know what the fucky part is? I think that's the first time I've actually HEARD THE AUDIO of the Grandpa Simpson clip Matt McMuscles just talks over it
Since this first Batman comic on the show since his death:
R.I.P Kevin Conroy
The best batman voice actor there ever was
My favorite Kevin Conroy moment, and what makes me call him this universe's Batman, is what he did in reaction to 9/11. He joined the cleanup as a volunteer, but kept his identity a secret. Eventually however, one of the emergency workers figured out his secret identity, and it got out. With all the bodies and wreckage and the general gloom of the situation, he got drafted into being the impromptu therapist for a ton of emergency workers, in character, as Batman. Like... Batman was at the 9/11 cleanup because of him, supporting and helping people.
Batman and Superman must have an annual Christmas competition to see who can kidnap the most rich boys to teach them the errors of their ways.
"I get to wear a cape and punch people. That's its own reward."
I don't care if this is parody, that is my new favorite Batman quote.
5:42 Tell me about it. Those trees Batman and Robin were looking at would cost $125 today.
I kind of hope that Grandpa Simpson clip becomes another running gag. It's funny and could be used in a lot of ways.
It's kinda overdone by a lot of people
“Kidnapping a millionaire to make them a better person”
*glances sidelong at twitter*
You never know; maybe Gotham waits until the last minute to put up their Christmas Trees after that one year Poison Ivy rigged them to get up and attack once they're decorated. Everyone's waiting for some other sap to be the canary in case she tries it again.
Eh, it was the Golden Age.
As I recall, Superman also kidnapped and threatened to drop a mean 10 year old to his death from skyscraper height around the same time.
Okay I did rewatch that episode you seem to have misremembered the “dropping” part, in fact Superman directly says he’s not going to do that to try to calm down the kid
Setting up a tree on Christmas Eve was the old American tradition. Partially because people used to leave it up until epiphany celebrating the 12 days of Christmas.
It's actually German Tradition there Santa would bring the 🎄. Germain tradition is also where the Christmas Pickel came from.
That was what my mom said our family used to do too for that exact reason (they were Catholic)
6:29 "I appear to have burst into flames." "I do believe I am on fire."
My mother told me that when she was young (1950's) That yes, people didn't decorate for Christmas until Christmas Eve, with her family not doing it until after she had gone to bed, saying Santa did it.
Yeah, decorations were originally only up for the 12 days themselves, Christmas being the 1st day and Jan 5th the 12th.
Weirdly enough, I kind of prefer this. It beats seeing Christmas decorations in stores as early as September in some places
I swear, Batman's insane ramblings get better every episode. It's like wine.
*Bat*-wine.
Bat-whine? .....I'm sorry I'll see myself out.
Sasha from "Casually Comics" recently previewed some panels from this issue ( Batman and Robin kidnapping the kid while Santa guy watches) and I wondered what the heck this story was about. Now I know. Thanks to Linkara and Sasha for revealing this Bat-Christmas madness.
I want them to do a crossover so bad. They both go for this funny as hell super nasally Peter Parker voice and I want them to do a Clone Saga comic with both voices bouncing off each other
@@Cdr2002 I'd love to see that.
@@ramblingRJ SAME
Funny that you do Bale Batman voice for a 1940s comic when he probably should sound more like Adam West. Makes the whole thing more ridiculous and I love it!
5:17 Can confirm, my family does that every year. Every other decoration? Black Friday. Christmas Tree? Christmas Eve. Every year.
Actually, this IS structured rather like a Christmas Carol - a miserly rich jerk is taken on a journey to see the effects of their past actions, then stuff that's happening now, and then what will happen if they keep up their miserly ways. Heck, you could even stretch it into the symbolism of the three events paralleling the ghosts - the Ghost of Christmas Past is associated with candles and flame and light, which fits the flaming Christmas Tree; the Ghost of Christmas Present in particular is associated with charity and generosity, which fits Scranton paying for the hospital bills; and of course the Ghost of Christmas Yet to Come is a spectre of death, which fits the scheme to murder Scranton's uncle to cover up their scheme.
Plus, Scranton's story opens with him working on Christmas Eve when he's paid a visit by a festive, pleasant relative who tries to encourage him to celebrate the holidays like Scrooge's nephew does for him, and Batman and Robin take Scranton to visit to an impoverished couple struggling to made ends meet ala Bob Cratchet. The only aspect of A Christmas Carol without a clear analog is Jacob Marley, but the rest fits.
Scranton's deceased uncle has about half of the Marley role, as the other tightwad of the story, but obviously doesn't have the opportunity to come back to warn Scranton about changing his ways. In fairness, it probably wouldn't have fit in with this ostensibly modern-day setting...
I thought Uncle Timothy was meant to be the Ghost of Christmas Past analogue.
"Ouch! I'm afire!" has the same energy as TF2 Spy saying "I do believe I am on fire."
Don Cameron wrote this story, while Jerry Robinson did the art.
Anything to give credit to those Bob Kane refused to.
This has everything I love about Golden Age comics: a batshit insane plot, purple prose-y, cheesy dialogue, and the heroes engaging in highly legally questionable actions to mess with some rich fucks.
You know, this reminds me of an old review you did WAY back when with Superman basically doing the same thing as Batman does here, except he fought a pair of rich jerks with a rocket ship that were bent on destroying Christmas because they never had a good Christmas growing up.
Sometimes I wished they made a ring Christmas special just so linkara can make fun of it. 😂 because he is so funny
...Huh...
*Puts that in my, "fanfics to write in the future" folder*
Considering there's a lot of goofy Ringu spinoff media (like the comic where Sadako becomes a streamer); I would not be surprised if there was already one out there somewhere.
@@frick_____you doujin. The possibilities are endless.
(Doujins are Japanese fan zines)
@@frick_____you Where. I want to see this. Now.
Ring: The Wreath!
Personal head cannon, the holiday intro makes me think that Santa outsources the Naughty list to Linkara to manage.
Old Geek, here, my good Linkara: indeed, for many families back in the 40s and 50s there was a tradition where Santa brought and set-up the tree! My father, born back in '37, told us about how his parents would always get the tree Christmas Eve, wait until he and his sister had gone to bed, and only then put it up as quietly as possible for the morning!
Honestly, I don't know how my grandparents did it!
It's hard enough getting all the shopping done let alone decorating a tree! :)
And now I want a Batman/Violent Night crossover.
Kicks in the face leading to indigestion honestly isn't even remotely the weirdest idea in the DC universe. Also, I was really happy to see A Voice From The Dark get referenced. It doesn't get enough love.
The review of the Superman golden age story featuring Dr Grouch (of the Boston Grouches, no doubt) is one of my favorite AT4W Xmas episodes, so I’m really eager to see more golden age hijinks with Batman!
Don't forget Dr. Grouch's partner in crime Dr. Meanie!
I had internet connectionisms and forgot to post this but some times people decorate weeks before Christmas but there are people especially with live trees who will get one days before. This can make it harder to find one on time but it also sees the price go down and it gives you a fresher tree rather then a tree that dies by Christmas.
10:50 new running joke, I am calling it.
Welcome back to the schedule, and fun episode!
Also the tree thing: considering how common it was for people to use real trees and their lifespan afterwards, it probs was pretty common to wait to get a tree till the sort of last minute. When PVC/Plastic became more common, I think it did help the attitude of "hey we can literally decorate earlier and our tree won't start to rot and stink like Marville"
I put up a comment about how it was "in my day" (, but yeah, we started doing tree creep when we got an artificial tree we then had for years. Getting a tree in Brooklyn was a hassle [insert classic movie here]
I don't know about Batman not minding singing "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells." If Robot Chicken taught us anything, Batman and Robin are pretty ruthless when it comes to slander.
Wow a Voice in the Dark refrence haven’t had those ever.
The lesson is there but the execution is of the times and thus gets a pass.
Next time more fun times
When my parents were young their parents would decorate the tree and set out the presents while the kids were asleep!
Ah, my favorite Holiday tradition.
The yule tide kidnapping.
Linkara's Christmas episodes are always my favorite
I can indeed confirm my family and I always went out and bought, then decorated our tree on Christmas Eve.
Ah, the most Christmasy thing of all: BATMAN!
Or the joker if you count his "fun traditions" during that Christmas with The Joker episode from the Batman animated series.
@@shadowlinkbds Ah, touche!
Dude, I've wondered about that whole 'getting ready for Christmas on Christmas Eve' thing too! Every year when I watch Christmas Eve on Sesame Street I tilt my head and wonder why Gordon's just NOW putting up his tree, or why Cookie Monster thought his letter to Santa was going to reach the North Pole on time, or why Bert and Ernie are just NOW getting gifts for each other. And that's just the ONE special, there's so many specials that do that and it confuses the heck out'a me! How did that become such a cliché for narratives set at the yuletide?
I guess the idea is that getting ready the night before and managing to do so shows your love for Christmas. That it's a thing of the moment and not something you prepare before hand and just let sit until the time.
Then again, I couldn't imagine the headaches I'd endure if I tried to do it on the night before. Hell, just thinking about it gives me an aneurism.
It's actually fairly commonplace. A LOT of people don't celebrate Christmas all December. A lot of people don't start celebrating until Christmas Eve.
It's also a religious thing.
Traditionally, it's customary to put up the Christmas Tree the last night of Advent or Christmas Eve.
The Twelve Days of Christmas are Dec 25 to Jan 5.
Epiphany is Jan 6.
Christians believe that the 12 days of Christmas mark the amount of time it took after the birth of Jesus for the 3 Wise Men, to travel to Bethlehem.
I think getting ready for Christmas on Christmas Eve used to be a lot more common than it is now. I've seen a lot of references to it in older books.
That "most boys my age are stupid" bit makes me howl, because there is an exchange almost EXACTLY LIKE IT in Game of Thrones
Arya Stark: Visenya Targaryen was a great warrior. She had a Valyrian steel sword she called "Dark Sister."
Tywin Lannister: Hm. She's a heroine of yours, I take it. Aren't most girls more interested in the pretty maidens from the songs? Jonquil, with flowers in her hair?
Arya Stark: Most girls are idiots.
I have never seen GoT, but it sounds like Anya would have a LiveJournal and post stuff like, "You wear flowers in your hair, I name my swords #notliketheothergirls"
@@artistwithouttalent Arya stabs people in the eyes and slits throats, so that hashtag is apt.
"I get to wear a cape and punch people. That's its own reward."
This is a Batman I could get to like. No angsty moping about dead parents, no unending war on crime, no flirtations with criminals of dubious sanity, just reveling in the joy of dressing up like a bat and engaging in fisticuffs.
To be fair, considering how often something must be on fire in Gotham, it probably did take a while for the firefighters to get around to the store.
Batman and Robin should still have put the fire out, of course.
I think when you get a real tree for Christmas you have to get it closer to actual Christmas so it won't dry out and shed before the holiday. Still, Christmas Eve is really pushing it...
Nice to see you’ve managed to get back on schedule Lewis!
You owe Matt McMuscles $6 for that "style at the time" clip
In many countries - like mine - people buy fresh real trees for Christmas, and if you put that up at the start of December they would probably be withered by Christmas time. In my family we put the tree up a few days before Christmas.
My families tradition is to put up the tree and decorate on Christmas Eve. That's just how we almost always did it. Mind you, we would actually get the tree and keep it in the barn way before Christmas eve, but yeah that is when we'd decorate for the holidays.
The joker Christmas episode of the animated series is just as annual as the grinch and Charlie brown for me lol.
that was a fun episode and i'm SUPER NEW to that show XD
@@gracekim1998 I know I love it and the animated series of one of my favorite shows of all time.
I prefer their second Christmas/Holiday episode. Christmas With The Joker is "fun", but it's an early-ish, introductory salvo episode, that's also about setting up the typical rhythms/ambitions of the show. See also: On Leather Wings. Holiday Knights, on the other hand, is, overall, a bit more about the spirit.
@@Volvagia1927 Was that episode the Joker's first episode in that show, or the April Fool's one?
@@louisduarte8763 I think it was the Christmas one…it makes more better when you remember that it starts with Joker practically singing Batman Smells
13:50 I think the swing through the city was what really did the job. Striking fear into the heart of criminals. Showed him what it's like to be powerless, helpless, and completely at the mercy of someone else.
Buying a tree and decorating it REALLY close to Christmas was probably how most people handled it back before artificial trees really took off and commercialism really set in. I mean, would YOU want to have to keep a live tree going for a MONTH? Better to buy it as close to Christmas as possible to reduce the amount of time you have to deal with watering the thing and cleaning up pine needles. Then add in the fact that people generally had a lot less leisure time back then, so dealing with the tree for that long is even more of a hassle... Plus, they didn't have electric lights, so they used candles, which was a major fire hazard if the tree got too dry...
Honestly, that reference to Voice from the Dark just proves to me that Some Jerk with a Camera had some of the more fun lines and deliveries in the drama.
Did you just say the voice in the dark?! 😅
6:29 Ralph Wiggum, age 30
Ok Elmer Fudd, One-Face, Bees, Rock and Roll, Happy Hogsby, The whole cast of Alice in Wonderland. These are just some of Batmans enemies.
5:09 There was a time where buying and setting it up at any given point in November was fine but these days if you don't buy your tree, gifts and decorations in September and set up the tree and other decorations Black Friday, you're doing it wrong lol.
Buying a tree on Christmas eve sounds odd to me but setting up the tree on Christmas eve was tradition for my parents
Die Hard is only a Christmas movie in that it's set during Christmas. It is not a true Christmas movie.
True Christmas movies are:
Miracle on 34th Street (original)
A Christmas Carol (Alastair Sim version)
🤣
I would love to see Christmas Carol with Tommy guns.
This golden age batman Christmas story is weird but its super fun in my opinion.
Batman and Christmas go together like peanut butter and pickles or like batman and rock and roll lol 😆
So, not at all. :P
I completely disagree. The Christmasy atmosphere is one of the best things about Batman Returns. Also, there was a great episode of Batman:TAS that centered around Christmas with Dick trying to get a reluctant Bruce to watch It's A Wonderful Life.
@@dreamlandnightmare That's the one that opens with the Joker escaping Arkham Asylum while singing "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells", right? A modern Christmas classic!
@@dreamlandnightmare Also Batman: Noel, which Linkara has reviewed.
i love how jingle bells smoothly turns in to the theme song
5:05 As I understand that was an old tradition, I'm willing to bet it started to decline once fake trees became a thing. We had a real pine tree one year and the pine needles just kept littering the floor the entire time we had it.
In my family, we usually buy our (real, not artificial) Christmas the day before Christmas Eve or so. Since here in Germany we celebrate Christmas actually on Christmas Eve, I guess this would be equivalent to buying a Christmas tree on Christmas Eve in the US 😀. We then let the tree stand until Epiphany. If we would buy it earlier it would be a dried husk until then, I think.
Back in the day Santa brought the tree and all the decorations. Not a surprise that didn’t last 😂😂😂
I want more context for that image of the Penguin running around with a bust of Shakespeare through a library
Buying a tree last minute was very common up until the latter part of the 20th century heck it was often only kept inside until boxing day at the latest, it was still considered a seasonal novelty popularised by Charles dickins and Queen Victoria and wasn't very common outside of the UK and certain parts of America according to some histories I've read. Also your logo covered the bottom of the word peril on the title card so it looked like it was. Christmas Peru
A Monday At4W for a second week in a row? It’s an X-Mas miracle!
Linkara: how long has this fire been going?
Me: oh, Linkara, my in-laws' favourite shopping mall caught fire last week and was burning for many hours...
I think the reason they said this was like Christmas Carol is because of how similar the old couple was to the Cratchet Family?
13:44 - Welp, time to put on my ski mask, gloves, and make some house calls. J/K
Funny how we both did Batman Christmas stories this year.
Christmas trees drop needles, especially the variants they had 80 years ago. It would be baren if you set it up a month before
Ah yes, Batman's solution to everything.
KIDNAPPING
Seeing the Atop the Fourth Wall Christmas intro song makes me realize we haven't seen Snowflame in a while. How is the old scamp doing?
Makes sense to review another Christmas related Batman comic this year, since you reviewed Batman: Noel 10 years ago, and it's thanks to your recommendation that I bought myself a copy a year later, and would read it every year since.
That X-Files comic missed the opportunity to call itself The X-Mas Files.
5:21- My family used to put up the tree on the first weekend of December, but since graduating high school, I would put up the tree on either Black Friday or during Thanksgiving weekend. I also find it weird that movies and TV shows and specials would wait to put up their decorations a day or so before Christmas. Also, in Batman Returns, we see Alfred putting up the tree in Wayne Manor some days before Christmas Eve.
12:26- I would say "Owning a farm where they grow Christmas trees," but they still need to do SOMETHING to keep food on the table.
13:00- "Well, 'Bah, humbug" to you, too." -Robin, Batman: The Animated Series, "Christmas With the Joker"
13:53- Yeah, I doubt that would work on rich assholes like Trump.
This makes me smile it's one of the few things I've had to look forward to this year considering I can't afford Christmas 🎄 happy holidays everyone.
Affording christmas isn't the end. Survive, get better, and think in what you have rather than what you don't. Things will get better eventually, but the first step is to calm down.
BTW, 2022 started as the worst year of my life in a lot of ways including my economy so I know what I say.
Don't worry I'm perfectly calm it just sucks seeing all the Christmas stuff it sounds like I'm not working I'm working literally two jobs just never feels like it's enough but thank you for your good words
@@Erebus0001 You're welcome! And I hope you get out of debt, reach stability and get better soon.
Merry christmas!!!
Same to you! Though you can't celebrate the way you deserve, I hope the spirit of the season will still brighten your days!
Happy holidays linkara
On Christmas trees and Christmas Eve: it used to be more common in the past. In reverse it was: light the tree decorations on Xmas Eve (traditionally candles), then set up the decorations on Xmas Eve (having the tree in advance), then set up the tree on Xmas Eve. There’s no definitive date for these changes,
Christmas in the Golden age means that due process and common sense can suck a candy cane! YAAAAAAAY!
9:05 Also finding the Eclypso Diamond.
The real Christmas peril was the year, Hush delivered Batman a Pat Boone VHS, the shock put Bruce out of action for 3 weeks!
That old couple must be real cutting edge to sell VHS tapes in the 40s.
My mind went to the Milo Murphy's Law episode of the same name.
Okay even though I never use Twitter and don't plan too that joke really got a laugh out of me hard.
Not just you Lewis, I decorate my tree the last 2 days of November.
I kinda get the carol comparison, Bruce and Dick basically were the ghost of Christmas Present.
To answer the question at 14:49, a kick to the face actually can give you stomach upset. If you start bleeding in your mouth or nose it can run down your throat and result in nausea. Something tells me that the person who wrote that line wasn't aware of that, though.
The jokes pertaining to a certain wealthy child are particularly delightful given what else happened to him lately.
Batman vs. Scrooge. That’s a crossover I wasn’t expecting. XD Also, I like getting a tree right after Thanksgiving, but that’s just me.
1:09 Wow so you did plab on covering something X-Files related on this channel :D
15:52 That plane is adorable!
Next week more of our Lord and Saviour Mr T :D
“Inflation is wild kids!”- Linkara 2022
Keep up the great work, Lewis!
Batman + Christmas = a good time!
Unless it’s Batman Returns, in which case it’s pretty depressing
I actually enjoyed Scranton's character quite a bit. Sure, pretty hamfisted in the way he viewed life and society, but how he acted felt like hammy fun.
To answer the Christmas tree question, it varies. Usually we have our tree up way ahead of time, but some years it gets so busy we are able to decorate until Christmas Eve. We do always have the tree itself before Christmas Eve, though,
Thoughts and responses.
5:20 I don't know how other people go about scheduling their holiday preparations, but I personally don't remember a year where we waited until Christmas Eve to set up our Christmas Tree. If that did happen, then it slipped my memory. As an example, this year my brother came over on Saturday December 3rd to handle this stuff. Granted, we were also devoting time to celebrating his birthday despite the actual day being on the 7th. But travel and work mean he only gets so many chances to be with us in person, and he's saving the next one for closer to Christmas.
10:57 In his defense, Tim was kept in the dark about how his nephew was raised up until the events of this comic. And the end results of that upbringing, paired with everything mentioned about the now deceased brother, makes it quite easy to believe that "Old Scrooge", as the story describes him, went through a lot of trouble blocking out anyone and anything that stopped him from "raising" his son to act exactly as he did. In addition, the way Tim reacted when Batman and Robin first entered his home makes it seem like he trusts and admires them quite a bit. Those factors combined tell me that Tim is trusting Batman and Robin to teach his nephew that pursuing money for its own sake is not the only way to live his life.
12:47 I know of at least one who would be willing to help if not for writers who keep going out of their way to make it harder for him to do so.
14:54 Given how convoluted the various retcons have become, I wouldn't be surprised if that was true during one of them.
As possibly your only Israeli viewer, I really appreciated that "especially Israel" remark. 😂
13:44 Aw, the optimism of late 1930 to early 1950.
I popped at the "A Voice from the Dark" reference
I dunno about other families but we always get our tree about a week before Christmas, sometimes earlier. It gives the tree time to spread out from being bound up and for anything that hid in there to get out while it stays outside. The tree then goes up the day before and gets decorated on the 24th.
“Why? They’re stupid too- Doing all the things they do for nothing!”
Scranton clearly only says this ‘cuz he’s jealous of Batman being smarter than him.
Robin: "HOLY YULETIDE TH-cam, BATMAN! LINKARA HAS UPLOADED A CHRISTMAS COMIC ON SCHEDULE!"
BATMAN: "Right, old chum. It appears he used the Malware Repellent Bat-Spray to keep his editing suite free of viruses."
You know what the fucky part is?
I think that's the first time I've actually HEARD THE AUDIO of the Grandpa Simpson clip
Matt McMuscles just talks over it