@@nomngcefe1688it's a lie that Ramaphosa brought load shedding, in 2010 we went to Zimbabwe with GE and our presentation in cabinet. We knew that in 2016 SA will experience electricity shortages. So to point a finger on Ramaphosa alone it exposes us big time. Or we hate the guy
@@ignatiouschikurahove7239 in 2015 loadshedding loadshedding lasted for less than a year. Then your big nose took over in 2018, for almost 6yrs it's loadshedding none stop
This is the point at which l would rest my case if l were Busisiwe, before all that is left of her credibility, support and options run out completely. This is Jack from Pretoria
@@mawethumbusi4524The constitutional court is the highest in the land with 12 judges. Superior than the SCA which has 3 judges. That's the highest court of appeal.
When Cyril lost in the Western Cape on the same matter the audio did not exist but words like "the courts have spoken" and now audio this audio that. Sore losers!
It should also be noted that from a personal point of view, those who are recommended to the position of Public Protector do so to those who in their mind will "deal" with the president and thereby assist them in achieving their plans. Is there any other person better than President Ramaphosa to lead the country? I don't see one
This is the highest court in the land, not a kangaroo court that Busisiwe Mkhwebane called. She has been proved on several occasions that she's not conversant with the laws of this country. The ppl of SA will resist attempts by this Mafia group 2 drag this country back 2 the dark days of state capture.
But she came here with a decision from cape Town high Court her plea was to force the judgment and the decision to suspend her was invalid as per the western cape court found n instead of them discussing that they change the whole thing hayi kunzma
We are finished! The only solution we have, is to vote for the EFF as majority, so that everything changes, coz this ANC and DA coalition against Mkhwebane says a lot about the future of SA!
That will never happen. Corruption will be the order of the day. They are trying it. Look at their supposed shutdown. It was supported by illegal foreigners and it failed
Mkwebane chose to pick sides in the political arena and she must now accept the consequences of choosing political sides and not being neutral as expected of a PP.
She should have taken the side of the poor people who can't afford lawyers as the constitution pertaining to her office demand but she chose to be a PP for the corrupt
I saw this coming, Ramaphosa must come clean, why he suspended her, is it because she started investigating him. He is the president but he's not above the law
Every person who does not like a judgment says the courts are captured. The PP was the one who was captured by the politicians. She made the Office of the PP to be disrespected by engaging herself in the factional battles within the ANC. It has now caught up with her, pleading for public sympathy. Before she could be suspended, the President wrote to the Public Protector, asking her to give reasons why she should not be suspended. This is the very same approach that is followed in many public institutions, when someone is alleged to have been in the wrong. If there were no allegations of wrongdoing on the part of the Public Protector, the President would have not suspended her. So let's stop blaming the President, the issue of the PP didn't start at the President's Office. Track it were it started, and argue accordingly.
I have said it before and I say it again this thing of judges calling each other brothers and sisters has removed a being element of professionalism. Anyway these are all BEE and EE deployees who never ran any noticeable practice.. SA is screwed.
Gary hre - hrs my theory on how CR is being protected. Cases inv CR in court/high court , they find him wanting(guilty).He appeals to concourt they find in his fava Thus creating the impression due diligence and the processes were flwd again gvng the impression he treated fair and is not above the law. This will be CR/CABINET/ANC modus operandi going frwrd. Question: Is the judiciary free,objective, fair from political interference
That is True, only one party can change everything is ????? After the election if they win .I was waiting the bad news, DA & ANC eyeza on your side one day
The public court of opinion is strong and well. I hope this is reflected where it truly matters. The ANC must suffer losses in the elective polls. We can't be having governance with so many turbulences and expect a better life for all.
how is the ANC linked to this matter. The nomination of the PP is open to public. The interviews are conducted in a manner that every interested parties is able to observe and draw his or her inferences. But morethan anything is to allow to be schooled not necessarily to differ with you
@@KakykaylaT what I mean by the public court of opinion is strong and well, is that the public is with Busisiwe on her abrupt suspension. (judging from the comment section at least) And what I mean by governance with so many turbulences, the Phala Phala matter is at the heart of her suspension, though disguised as opening way for a just impeachment inquiry. Do you feel like the the commission's members, of which the majority are from the ANC are being just towards Busisiwe? Okay, do you feel like there's nothing suspicious around judiciary not being able to agree on both the Phala Phala matter and Busisiwe's suspension. So again, the ANC is what I'd put my finger on if I was to determine who's behind these turbulences in governance. Answered?
Her suspension is due to do that she has stepped on someones toes in a high position and clearly this person didnt like the fact that he was been investigated and doesnt want any wrong doings exposed.
The Deputy CJ was favored by Mpofu and Malema during the CJ interviews to take over from Mogoeng, now because she was part of the Justices that ruled against Mpofu/Mkhwebane, she is captured also.
Ramaphosa was a leader of a team that drafted the constitution & he is fully aware of where 2 tread. We applaud him for that. A normal thinking leader can't abandon the cries of the poor ppl of Vrede & side with the likes of Ace, Zuma, Mkhwebane, Msebenzi Zwane, Carl Niehaus, Arthur frazer, list is endless.
@@lugisanimufamadiadd him on that the master of snkokes in phalaphala , the marikana mass acre is a people's cry have you forgotten wake up and smell the coffee stop your biased juggement and protect the rich president as he was introduced
Unfortunately Mkhwebane's bias against Ramaphosa was so brazen, it will be difficult to rule against the President.
🤣🤣So funny to hear people defending the guy who have given them Stage 6 loadshedding since 2018,
@@nomngcefe1688it's a lie that Ramaphosa brought load shedding, in 2010 we went to Zimbabwe with GE and our presentation in cabinet. We knew that in 2016 SA will experience electricity shortages. So to point a finger on Ramaphosa alone it exposes us big time. Or we hate the guy
@@nomngcefe1688but the issue here has nothing to do with loadshedding
@@ignatiouschikurahove7239 in 2015 loadshedding loadshedding lasted for less than a year. Then your big nose took over in 2018, for almost 6yrs it's loadshedding none stop
@@nomngcefe1688Not just load shed , the most incompetent government - Proof : look at the sorry state SA finds itself in.
People may say what they want but the courts have spoken One would expect anyone from the opposition to feel aggrieved
This was a simply case to decide ,it's a no brainer
This is the point at which l would rest my case if l were Busisiwe, before all that is left of her credibility, support and options run out completely. This is Jack from Pretoria
did Dali lose again?...eish..m
We not surprised after what alledged audios said about ramaphosa
I always felt Mkhwebane equated her office powers to that of the presidency. She looses again. So what's new?!
Was the judgement in western cape right or wrong
@mawethumbusi4524 u or any1 dont hav to answer that ..the court has now spoken
But that is the same thing that was done by the former PP b4 Mkhwebane took over.
@@mawethumbusi4524The constitutional court is the highest in the land with 12 judges. Superior than the SCA which has 3 judges. That's the highest court of appeal.
@@ronaldmufamadi-zq7cl so your point is 12 judges like 12 apostles will never be captured
we expect the PP to loose remember the audio says the courts are with CR
you and who ?
When Cyril lost in the Western Cape on the same matter the audio did not exist but words like "the courts have spoken" and now audio this audio that. Sore losers!
Don't undermine our brothers and sisters working for the judiciary...
@@tendaisean3736 and Me
It's sad, in SA everyone wants to be a judge, even someone who failed metric. This woman is just a no brainer, she was used by criminals.
It should also be noted that from a personal point of view, those who are recommended to the position of Public Protector do so to those who in their mind will "deal" with the president and thereby assist them in achieving their plans. Is there any other person better than President Ramaphosa to lead the country? I don't see one
This is the highest court in the land, not a kangaroo court that Busisiwe Mkhwebane called. She has been proved on several occasions that she's not conversant with the laws of this country. The ppl of SA will resist attempts by this Mafia group 2 drag this country back 2 the dark days of state capture.
But she came here with a decision from cape Town high Court her plea was to force the judgment and the decision to suspend her was invalid as per the western cape court found n instead of them discussing that they change the whole thing hayi kunzma
Has she ever acted as a judge? Has she penned judgements?
this RET supporter deserves it
Did they explain why they were late with judgement?
We are finished!
The only solution we have, is to vote for the EFF as majority, so that everything changes, coz this ANC and DA coalition against Mkhwebane says a lot about the future of SA!
Well said I fully agree with you this country needs us
That will never happen. Corruption will be the order of the day. They are trying it. Look at their supposed shutdown. It was supported by illegal foreigners and it failed
@@mawethumbusi4524
Mkwebane chose to pick sides in the political arena and she must now accept the consequences of choosing political sides and not being neutral as expected of a PP.
Which side?
Which sides , does taking on cyllili taking sides which sides , phala phala report , cr 17 bank statements the list goes on
@@mawethumbusi4524 the Ace Magashule side.
@@hussaingool1859 but what about the phalaphala , Marikana and bossasa in the name of our children's companies vuka mfowethu
She should have taken the side of the poor people who can't afford lawyers as the constitution pertaining to her office demand but she chose to be a PP for the corrupt
I saw this coming, Ramaphosa must come clean, why he suspended her, is it because she started investigating him. He is the president but he's not above the law
TRUE
True , let's find Cyril guilty, then we can patch up charges and they must sick. Else the judges are biased or bought
Now that we can see that our chapter 9 institutions are captured its about time we take it upon our selves to stand up and fight for our rights
Every person who does not like a judgment says the courts are captured.
The PP was the one who was captured by the politicians. She made the Office of the PP to be disrespected by engaging herself in the factional battles within the ANC. It has now caught up with her, pleading for public sympathy.
Before she could be suspended, the President wrote to the Public Protector, asking her to give reasons why she should not be suspended. This is the very same approach that is followed in many public institutions, when someone is alleged to have been in the wrong.
If there were no allegations of wrongdoing on the part of the Public Protector, the President would have not suspended her. So let's stop blaming the President, the issue of the PP didn't start at the President's Office. Track it were it started, and argue accordingly.
@@jonathanmpumelelokock9449 are you trying to say the high court of cape town and its bench of judges were in P Ps favour hayi sukani madoda
uRamaphosa wathi uzoqeda inkohlakalo kanti uzoyiqala mhlambe wadideka sikhathi esho wayeqonde ukuthi uzoyiqala,
I have said it before and I say it again this thing of judges calling each other brothers and sisters has removed a being element of professionalism. Anyway these are all BEE and EE deployees who never ran any noticeable practice.. SA is screwed.
It was very much inspiring video and is always great pleasure to be the part of Onpassive Ecosystem
Gary hre - hrs my theory on how CR is being protected.
Cases inv CR in court/high court , they find him wanting(guilty).He appeals to concourt they find in his fava
Thus creating the impression due diligence and the processes were flwd again gvng the impression he treated fair and is not above the law.
This will be CR/CABINET/ANC modus operandi going frwrd.
Question: Is the judiciary free,objective, fair from political interference
I agree with you 100 %.
The only thing remaining is concourt to declare Ramaphosa president for life or some king.
If the constitution allows, why not.
Please educate yourself
They don't have such powers. They are there to interpret the constitution & it does have 2 terms of 5 years
My fear is that "we are heading towards zimbabwe style where every institution is captured by government officials
That is True, only one party can change everything is ????? After the election if they win .I was waiting the bad news, DA & ANC eyeza on your side one day
Spot ON...we in a Mafia State
The public court of opinion is strong and well. I hope this is reflected where it truly matters. The ANC must suffer losses in the elective polls. We can't be having governance with so many turbulences and expect a better life for all.
how is the ANC linked to this matter. The nomination of the PP is open to public. The interviews are conducted in a manner that every interested parties is able to observe and draw his or her inferences. But morethan anything is to allow to be schooled not necessarily to differ with you
@@KakykaylaT what I mean by the public court of opinion is strong and well, is that the public is with Busisiwe on her abrupt suspension. (judging from the comment section at least) And what I mean by governance with so many turbulences, the Phala Phala matter is at the heart of her suspension, though disguised as opening way for a just impeachment inquiry. Do you feel like the the commission's members, of which the majority are from the ANC are being just towards Busisiwe? Okay, do you feel like there's nothing suspicious around judiciary not being able to agree on both the Phala Phala matter and Busisiwe's suspension. So again, the ANC is what I'd put my finger on if I was to determine who's behind these turbulences in governance. Answered?
Her suspension is due to do that she has stepped on someones toes in a high position and clearly this person didnt like the fact that he was been investigated and doesnt want any wrong doings exposed.
if this was Betway, i was gonna bet my salary.
😂😂
Double of standards of highest order
😂Concourt has become a circus !! The courts have lost all credibility in SA. They have become a protect Cyril at all costs !
The Deputy CJ was favored by Mpofu and Malema during the CJ interviews to take over from Mogoeng, now because she was part of the Justices that ruled against Mpofu/Mkhwebane, she is captured also.
@@eliudnkuna3930 But your excuse is dumb stupid.
"The courts are with Ramaphosa"
Ramaphosa was a leader of a team that drafted the constitution & he is fully aware of where 2 tread. We applaud him for that. A normal thinking leader can't abandon the cries of the poor ppl of Vrede & side with the likes of Ace, Zuma, Mkhwebane, Msebenzi Zwane, Carl Niehaus, Arthur frazer, list is endless.
Pls follow logic and rationale used by judges...... pls
@@lugisanimufamadiadd him on that the master of snkokes in phalaphala , the marikana mass acre is a people's cry have you forgotten wake up and smell the coffee stop your biased juggement and protect the rich president as he was introduced
@@tapwater76 Pls follow the money hidden in Furniture 😉
Looking at the comments, it looks like most are lawyers without qualifications. Sad, truly
Grasping at straws
Amen
Captured Courts...mxm...We in a Mafia State
I can predict rejection
Of course the corrupt are going 2 reject anything that doesn't go their way
Bought judges
Mia is captured
By the way Mia is a close friend of Mpofu.....here she is doing her job with fear or favour
@@chiefer1325 she sings for zondos music
@@Sammy_SAAsore looser