Who counts as a speaker of a language? | Anna Babel | TEDxOhioStateUniversity

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  • @ahmetmuratcelik6806
    @ahmetmuratcelik6806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I think the answer is:
    If you don't need to translate in your mind while you're speaking, if you FEEL that language, you're speaker of that language.
    It is very interesting because it's not enough to listen and read perfectly, but also you should be able to speak (or product something in that language) really really good.
    That means you can watch movies without subtitles while you're not a speaker of that language.

    • @krissygo3
      @krissygo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m a native English speaker, and I still have difficulty differentiating words. I almost always watch film with subtitles on.

    • @aylbdrmadison1051
      @aylbdrmadison1051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you think can in a language, then you're a _"speaker"_ of that language. Some people do this with more than one language. In fact, this is intrinsic to learning a language well.
      I'm learning some very basic Spanish, and still there are jokes some tell me that I just don't understand because I can't think in Spanish yet.

    • @ahmetmuratcelik6806
      @ahmetmuratcelik6806 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aylbdrmadison1051 Yes, this is exactly what i meant to say.

    • @funnyhour101
      @funnyhour101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aylbdrmadison1051 sometimes jokes are a cultural thing. Don't be so hard on yourself

    • @alanknight4003
      @alanknight4003 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Aylbdr Madison !Minoan Civilization

  • @alineteixeira8569
    @alineteixeira8569 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Excelent! Thank you Professor and thanks TED for that speech. I know what your're talking about, I'm brazilian and I have lived for a while at the US (California), at Italy and for years in France; and also as a portuguese native speaker, I know how the accent, slang, idiomatic expressions and so counts on the evaluation people make from each other, including myself, sure. The difference is, when we have lived abroad we know how subtile could be the use of a language and how we can judge and be judged for it. It´s important to think about it!

  • @francescogreggio6712
    @francescogreggio6712 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    This raises some very interesting points. In language teaching, race and cultural background are often considered important factors in how one learns a new language, but this is the first time I hear them being considered a factor also in how one's proficiency is perceived by others. It's a point that deserves looking into.

  • @christyjoseph3288
    @christyjoseph3288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you have told about Social Categorising is superb. It destroys lives of people in multiple ways. Clearly language is one of them. Superb Work.

  • @giga84
    @giga84 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You should come to Luxembourg where most people speak between 3 and 5 languages! :) Great conference!

  • @Hallands.
    @Hallands. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Her name is literally "Babel"?

    • @cidaaragao5979
      @cidaaragao5979 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      god make she for be teacher of linguagues

    • @krissygo3
      @krissygo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      matheus aragão interesante, no?

    • @casey18982
      @casey18982 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was what I was thinking!

    • @kenip9800
      @kenip9800 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was shocked she didn't make a joke about it in the talk.

  • @ebbyc1817
    @ebbyc1817 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow, this talk really got to me in the end.
    For me, anyone I can understand in English is an English speaker, however I don't consider myself to be a 'speaker' of any of the other languages I speak.

    • @krissygo3
      @krissygo3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ebby C same! Except I’m trying to learn Spanish for, like, the 5th time ever.

    • @adaleoncotera7706
      @adaleoncotera7706 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm peruvian, my language is Spanish, I'm a teacher of my own language, I wanna say that nobody speaks perfectly a language , it doesn't care if is your mother language or not. Nobody is perfect. !!

  • @StevenSenjaya
    @StevenSenjaya 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I am Indonesian and last night I dreamed about sth in full English. I feel like I am an English speaker already 😅

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you learning English, American English or some other variant?

    • @StevenSenjaya
      @StevenSenjaya 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnkellett7797 I would say American English because most TH-camrs that I watch are mostly Americans

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StevenSenjaya That's a pity. English is much richer than the poor copies of it such as American English :-) On holiday in Sweden nobody would let me attempt to speak Swedish as they wanted to learn English and practice it as they had been taught American English!

  • @franciscothomas6012
    @franciscothomas6012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I speak good English, and many people say that. But I don't feel like I'm an English speaker. This talk is great

  • @andrespalafoxmx4474
    @andrespalafoxmx4474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ¡TEDx TALKS ME INSPIRARON!
    Hago videos motivacionales y sin duda los resultados en mí, me tienen contento.
    En cada uno de sus videos encuentro un valor inefable de liderazgo y motivación para superarme como ser humano.
    Gracias por todos sus videos.

  • @bloomindoom
    @bloomindoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    8:35 that's what I call a plot twist

  • @rebbecachunn
    @rebbecachunn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So insightful but makes total sense. If we had more *blind* testing with the variety of what is considered to be correct I feel that students who are multilingual would have a better chance rather than being thrown into ESL programs.

  • @sallysassa
    @sallysassa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That was a very insightful talk.

  • @chrissy9171
    @chrissy9171 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an ENL teacher, I have often thought about the last part of your presentation a lot.....

  • @laurabora444a
    @laurabora444a 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    go professor Anna!!! you are so cool.

  • @manuelruiz984
    @manuelruiz984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    English speaking all the times in America. Great speech!!

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Manuel Ruiz , no. In America they do not speak English they speak and write AMERICAN English. They are NOT the same language.

  • @manonliavais
    @manonliavais 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This point of view is really interesting, but, I'd like to know how speakers of a language are counted (500 - 600 millions for Spanish for example).

  • @MrTrekdata
    @MrTrekdata 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating

  • @gamingwood5233
    @gamingwood5233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video ..
    Thank u

    • @dasuhatv7468
      @dasuhatv7468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @filiztepeli1327
    @filiztepeli1327 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much my sweet! I learn everday english🤩

  • @aylbdrmadison1051
    @aylbdrmadison1051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfounded bias leads to a reduction in critical thinking abilities. The more unfounded biases held, the more the reduction.

  • @tikaal
    @tikaal 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    very interesting, very important

  • @KomTvdelhi
    @KomTvdelhi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do.. I can speak 10 languages including my dialect and can write 4 as well apart from English.. English is my second hand language..I know little franch..bif anyone of you know my dialect ..kom dialect.. you will know lots of regional languages and easy to learn foreign languages bloke frence since pronunciation of A B C are some what similar

  • @charlesluciano9745
    @charlesluciano9745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Personally, I think that just saying "Hola" "Hello" "Bonjour" you're speaking a language, but mastering a language is a different thing.
    In my case, I master Spanish, English and Latin.

    • @ltrizzle12
      @ltrizzle12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thing is, nobody cares..

    • @sweetylou9807
      @sweetylou9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You master Latin?

    • @charlesluciano9745
      @charlesluciano9745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sweetylou9807 Ita, linguam latinam possum loqui bene, et possum legere classicas litteras (exempli gratia: De Bello Gallico, Iulii Caesaris) et audire ecclesiae Gregorianos Cantos. Ergo, facilis intelligendo. Et tu, loquerisne latinam linguam?

    • @sweetylou9807
      @sweetylou9807 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@charlesluciano9745 You have strange interests... But to answer your question, I'm learning Latin in school, but I have no use for it, cause you can speak to no one...

    • @charlesluciano9745
      @charlesluciano9745 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sweetylou9807 Why it would be "strange"? I think it's very subjective, but if you have an answer to that question...
      In my case, I learnt Latin in 4 months with TH-cam and a dictionary , I don't consider myself as an expert, but I can understand quite easily ancient texts and also I can speak it, even though it's useless. That's why nowadays Latin is a literary languague, same as Ancient Greek and Biblical Hebrew.

  • @andrew1575
    @andrew1575 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eso es por que yo creo que voy un estudiante de espanol para siempre

  • @deepakchopra1707
    @deepakchopra1707 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best video

  • @andreat.8078
    @andreat.8078 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:19 she hit the nail on the head with that point, I've felt like that but didnt know it was an actual thing

  • @sweetgirl1535
    @sweetgirl1535 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing

  • @nur-gp9sc
    @nur-gp9sc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Hazaltekinn123
    @Hazaltekinn123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Çeviriyi açtım saat 00.00da izliyorum hahjaha

  • @manuelruiz984
    @manuelruiz984 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice. Very nice

  • @barbelreuter6117
    @barbelreuter6117 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    All Americans should watch is on CNN, so me, thanks 🙏 so much

  • @andrewroberthook3310
    @andrewroberthook3310 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Change the letter e in tower to A
    and you might see where man got lost

  • @josephdenton2285
    @josephdenton2285 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @danielzhang877
    @danielzhang877 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tower is a literal historical truth btw

  • @leiilo1458
    @leiilo1458 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not all of us are christian..

  • @Human__Science
    @Human__Science 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a scholastic question?!

  • @alifadjackmoustapha9559
    @alifadjackmoustapha9559 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like that it’s very very interesting. But I have difficulty for pronunciation in much mots...

  • @billalovepoint7979
    @billalovepoint7979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice

  • @justanotherguywithamoustac8893
    @justanotherguywithamoustac8893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ironic that her name is Babel

  • @diegovasquez4089
    @diegovasquez4089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Q pasa ???? Los subtítulos????

    • @cidaaragao5979
      @cidaaragao5979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      calma rapaz, o video lançou faz 4 horas, demora um pouco para traduzir

  • @wojtek0318
    @wojtek0318 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lol 2 minutes ago i lerned english and tedx sent something about language are you in my head

    • @charlesluciano9745
      @charlesluciano9745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Karan Do you speak troll, right?

    • @dasuhatv7468
      @dasuhatv7468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @mickcoomer9714
    @mickcoomer9714 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Panic. You panic in your native tongue.

  • @popito8366
    @popito8366 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    funny how her last name is Babel

    • @jz8963
      @jz8963 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      mission of life accomplished

  • @sotsialmedia4426
    @sotsialmedia4426 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤔

  • @tsarkaiserking5782
    @tsarkaiserking5782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @forisma
    @forisma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👏

  • @ShadowManTV
    @ShadowManTV 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    as a linguist she should know better history of languages but some interesting observations later in the video

    • @LOLinsultan
      @LOLinsultan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what do you mean by better history?

  • @thebibosez7949
    @thebibosez7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the way she blamed African Americans for degrading her own children's English language skills. That is a brave stand for any college professor to take.

    • @alines25
      @alines25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In fact, she simply pointed out the difference. She didn't use any negative word. It was you who made the judgement that it was degrading their English.

    • @thebibosez7949
      @thebibosez7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alines25 Yes, she was quite subtle about it but for those who remember the ebonics wars her intent was clear.

    • @alines25
      @alines25 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's not how specialists view linguistic differences

    • @thebibosez7949
      @thebibosez7949 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alines25 Indeed - while specialists may couch their spicy views in the florid babel of academia, this Babel's disdain for her own children's mediocre test scores leaked through her attempt to obscure it.

  • @usnavyvet2002
    @usnavyvet2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did I just watch an 11 minute long Ted Talk video about a caucasian linguist's child who spoke improper English during an English test and got graded as such? Would the same apply if a child said "you'z guys" or "They ain't got none"?

  • @suwatp
    @suwatp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    someone hold the grudge.

  • @arturozea3440
    @arturozea3440 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    😊🎇

  • @stanleywayne7261
    @stanleywayne7261 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow 3 minutes ago

    • @tmcdowell7977
      @tmcdowell7977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Caylie Griswold ❤️

  • @awake5196
    @awake5196 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From my perspective, the answer is pretty obvious:
    The person which is able to communicate in this specific language without assistance from any other

    • @befer
      @befer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      So some British and Scottish, Irish people aren't speaking English if people can't understand them 😂

  • @My10centsWorth
    @My10centsWorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Babel "probably not a literal historical truth"?
    It is DEFINITELY not a historical truth or event or even a 'tale based on historical facts'.
    Academics should refrain from using ambiguous terms that could support the belief that fairytales could have any basis in reality.

  • @bellapoof8255
    @bellapoof8255 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey TH-cam. This video is borderline offensive. Why don't you block it like other videos that don't align with your opinions.

  • @samwright6715
    @samwright6715 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First

  • @blablabla2847
    @blablabla2847 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...so, I told the teacher that I was concerned about my son scores.

  • @Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733
    @Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    She looks like she’s crapping her knickers in the thumbnail

  • @rezadaneshi
    @rezadaneshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Anyone who can write a coherent page in one sentence.

  • @ijasikku1706
    @ijasikku1706 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *💪BREAK THE CHAIN💪*
    stay home..stay safe
    ..we will survive..
    ..Like from kerala,INDIA..
    ..കമന്റോളികൾ നീണാൾ വാഴട്ടെ.. 😁
    9328

  • @dragonquest2926
    @dragonquest2926 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even Muppets count as speakers.

  • @hilbillymnst1324
    @hilbillymnst1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Try to be an IT and not be irritated by tutorials with bearly understandable Indi-lish. This is a plague, when videos are good but the only good way to watch and listen is to mute and read subtitles. Horror.

  • @KiranKumarManchala
    @KiranKumarManchala 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Babel, not historical truth? Everything that shows up in tvs or shows kicks down the truth of the bible.

  • @emberdawn5283
    @emberdawn5283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BLAHH blahhhhh Only Royal's Blue bloods Club 360 know language They teach us babel

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      @dasuhatv7468 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @emmett33
    @emmett33 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jesus Christ

  • @marshallsilva9389
    @marshallsilva9389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Darling woman, very little if anything is historical in the Bible, no Moses did not live in Egypt nor did he leave Egypt with 600,000people wandering lost for 40yrs leaving not a single trace! 😊✌️ ( tho more Jews lived in Egypt at the birth of Jesus around Alexandria than Judea and Greek was the common language)

  • @bagoodman9153
    @bagoodman9153 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    11 minutes ill never get back . what a waste of time !

  • @joeyvanostrand3655
    @joeyvanostrand3655 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    WAAAAYYY tooo saggy.
    2/10 would not smash

  • @nur-gp9sc
    @nur-gp9sc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Türkçe alt yazı koyamadiniz bi