I am coming to your content vary late having been away from the game for ten years, but i love it all the same! "Seemed like a nice enough chap..." had me snorting-laughing.
Pretty sure this is what I voted for (been a while). In any case happy to see it and pleased to see that a T1 indy CAN be tanked well enough to handle a lone cruiser. Thankfully I have moved on to well tanked DSTs and BRs now, but it wasn't all that long ago I was making perilous jumps in a brick fit Tayra and a speed fit badger. Also, after watching your videos, I kept my cargo expanders in my hold unless absolutely necessary.
Love watching these vids. I'm not skilled enough to be a ganker, but it's fun to see how they operate. Pretty sure you've saved me a loss or three, I no longer use cargo extenders and I shield up as much as I can on all my haulers. You've also convinced me to move to Deep Space Transports and Blockade runners for all my Jita trips. I don't particularly want to be ganked, but I fugure if you catch me, that's on me. Good hunting.
I think most people buy Haulers from Jita and get them fitted with expanded cargohold T2s to take them to their home systems where they plan on using them, thats why you see many empty ships with cargohold II
Many Pilots do go to Jita with their cargo full of Missionloot and Salvage in order to sell and make their way home with the hauler emptied out, thats why you saw so many empty ones which were coming down from jita. Try scanning the ones that go towards jita, might yield some more jucier targets.
most people use sunesis to transport valuable mission loot to jita, and t1 hauler for the rest cheap crap. So usually it is few runs of sunesis with 500+M each, and 1 trip of nereus with near 100m loot and strong shield. Not worth it to gank.
18:45 - btw, alot of viewers might not know that remote shield repair applies its bonus immediately at the start of its cycle, whereas remote armor repair applies at the end (meaning that bonus for shield happens the moment you can obtain target lock)...even seasoned pve mission runners might not really comprehend this because for them it's local tank and a few seconds here and there doesn't really mean much to them.
Love the videos. I find them educational. I'm a new player who spams abyssal deadspaces to make ISK, but always wanted to dwelve into Pvp like this but, don't have any alts or much skills at the moment. This seems more fun and relaxing.
Epithal is the Gallenette PI ship. He is collecting his PI or moving PI. That was fun to watch. It also got me thinking, I may dip my toes into it too...
Well i hate deeply all gankers, but i do understand that they are important for the game, which wouldn't be the same without the constant danger that makes you keep a vigilant eye all times, and also the video was educational so i almost liked it.
19:40 btw those resources aren't NPC trade items or useless. It's PI and you can turn it into much more expensive stuff, though it looks like they haven't figured out how to make it expensive if they're in highsec...
02:30 - note that a ship scanner is going to be affected by scan resolution size of the target (which is why you get 100% accuracy on scanning upwells)...CODE still has their obsolete ship scanner calculator up but it's tuned to the old style shield hardeners and stuff so...yeah, not really useful anymore
02:15 - note that if you can hear the sound of the cargo/ship scanner going off if you're zoomed in on your hauler and you have 'ship effects' high. (you can also see the enemy vessel's effects as he does so too)
How about this for your next Kill All..... "Kill all in alphabetical order" A pilot's name starting with A, then next B, C etc.... ship type is not a requirement, your choice to destroy :) P.S. Love the vids from a ganking point of view :)
The time to remove expanders is when hauling gold bars. It doesn’t matter if a hauler has expanders while it’s carrying nothing of value. Only a self-righteous griefer would SGank an empty hauler with weak tank.
My guess with the empty cargo holds is that your seeing people leaving after they unloaded. Maybe they are coming in from an alternate rout, and leaving where you are camped. I use unorthodox routs myself. May take longer, but its better than loosing the ship and cargo.
See, it seems to me that once the scooper touches that loot, they should get flagged to be fired upon by the turrets and concord...I don't understand why they leave that loophole.
Eve has always favoured the ganker, the whole game is set up that way, only when they get outrageous do CCP change the rules a little bit, after the first gank he should have been destroyed in empire space, thats what you pay taxes for, but the status loss is small so he can re-ship many times, I don't play now but the number of -10 players hanging around high sec was ridiculous, Navy and Police should shoot them on sight, alts bring ships in and -10 then ganking and repeating the same again should never be a thing, the lore should mean outlaws should not be able to use ANY high sec services, one in low sec or null then thats different, you take your chances, at least add filaments has made null a bit less safe, it was safer than high sec patrolled by navies and concord.
@@Taz6688 I saw someone float an idea i liked; Let the security status of the pilot be reflected in the CONCORD response time. Pilots with high security should get help faster and vice versa. It's would be one more variable for sgankers to factor in and it would make staying out of trouble actually pay off in some way.
19:30 - fyi, MacGybo, the epithal hauls planetary interaction stuff so everything you saw came from a player's "colonies" on a planet. so player made not npc created. =)
10:14 - now, i can appreciate using mouse commands to show us what you're up to. BUT, i'd like to pass on some advice a youtube commenter gave me a couple years ago: "use F to engage drones" (the default hotkey) i know. so much of eve doesn't have hotkey command ability but that does.
11:30 t1 with a mwd but not a cloak...probably an alpha account. 10 tech2 ogres and 3 large hyperspatial? i'm guessing for his orca?? can alphas fly orcas?
Nice video , i am not sure if it because but i never get ganked especially since i put more tank in my haulers so thank you again for all this details and hints to save my ships and my commercial operation in New Eden, i have a little question why in suspect mode you are trying to recover your cruiser loot , it`s quiet dangerous i also saw that you are not using instadocks for your hauler ? why you know that nobody is there ? so there is no risks ?
I have tons of videos of ships being fit like crap, 1 prop mod and all expanders and nothing else :) might as well just destroy the stuff and save the time travelling only to get ganked. My Badger has bit over 70k ehp, so fairly tanky for a T1 ship.
As a bisexual transgender woman, I would like to think the Russian was just trying to ask you out on a date. However, I’m sure he was just resorting to some really primitive slurs. Glad you didn’t bite on that bait as I love your videos and often listen to them when I am dozing in bed at night, you have such a calm voice and the pace of Eve just lends itself to lullaby content. ;-)
My T1 hauler has 19k EHP and 3.78s align time, none of which will ever make me feel safe. Moving expensive stuff is one of the most nerv wrecking things you can do. Without MacGybo and his friends this game would be very boring.
I have a dumb Noobie question: you loose a ship when you attack, as the gate security destroys your ship, therefore you have to take the cost of that ship and it's fittings out of any profit you might gain from the cargo collected?
@@MacGybo what could have still made it possible if they did? If they timed it wrong for example? Or you would have used a trick to prevent them from cloaking (like a jettisoned container less than 2000m from the drop-in?). Is that still even possible around gates?
T1 haulers cannot fit Covert Ops cloaks which is required for warping cloaked. All you can do with a cloak fitted T1 is cloak and coast at 10+% speed away from the gate. The only hauler that can for a Covert Ops cloak is the Blockade Runner; which can warp cloaked, cannot be cargo scanned and start at 150'ish mill unfitted.
Yessir, I would like to complain about this business of killing all "haulers" I for one spend much of my eve-time is such a ship and cannot protest strongly enough about this cruel and completely uncalled for assault on us honest industrialists, simply trying to make a living. I will reporting this blatant and prejudicial injustice to the powers that be... whomever that is, and will relish the inevitable persecution you undoubtedly will soon be under. .. keep up the good work :) IGN Rancorz
i love eve been plauing maybe 6 weeks but it can be brutal ive not had many bad experiences getting ganked but if i had i bet i wouldve left the game already and not have given it a chance
People who transport expensive stuff to Jita to sell (producers), probably do so in bulk and in big freighters which _most_ gankers dont bother with. People who buy that stuff on the other hand, should be more likely to do so in smaller amounts and smaller ships, it kinda makes sense.
Noobs never sub because the harsh reality of getting ganked in high sec and therefore get scared away, in turn CCP comes up with monetization schemes. Have noticed the slow decline in players?
My opinion is that you said something and had no proof. I could easily say "I've shot lots of newbies who have then become aware of HS rules and been grateful and moved on, educated and grateful".
@@mauricioliscano847 For what it's worth, very very few of the people I kill with big cargos are newbies. Most are older players who should know better.
Let me explain the Russian. You see, we all think that ganking is a homosexual act. So, you may be. This is the problem with Eve. These PPL you gank are NewBro, and well, as newbro it's not a good way to spend your time, and they shuffle off to other games. You must accept responsibility for your actions. CCP is also responsible for having this as a part of the game.
That still don't explain the somewhat fuzzy connection between a way to play the game and a certain sexual orientation. All it shows is a homophobic opinion of more or less a whole country apparently populated by troglodytes.
It's shield, shield, shield, shield, shield. But it's an Athanor.
Xactly what i had to stop and laugh at!!!!!!
and a dcu. he had no shot.
MacGybo, thank you for taking the time to put these videos together. They're quite fun to watch. Cheers and o7!
Glad you like them :)
I am coming to your content vary late having been away from the game for ten years, but i love it all the same! "Seemed like a nice enough chap..." had me snorting-laughing.
Pretty sure this is what I voted for (been a while). In any case happy to see it and pleased to see that a T1 indy CAN be tanked well enough to handle a lone cruiser. Thankfully I have moved on to well tanked DSTs and BRs now, but it wasn't all that long ago I was making perilous jumps in a brick fit Tayra and a speed fit badger. Also, after watching your videos, I kept my cargo expanders in my hold unless absolutely necessary.
This makes me wanna get back into EVE
I'm not taking any responsibility for that. :D
come back im station trading to ganker and ganked! choose your side
You're calm, somewhat smart-assy reaction to his convo was pure gold! LOL
Love watching these vids. I'm not skilled enough to be a ganker, but it's fun to see how they operate. Pretty sure you've saved me a loss or three, I no longer use cargo extenders and I shield up as much as I can on all my haulers. You've also convinced me to move to Deep Space Transports and Blockade runners for all my Jita trips. I don't particularly want to be ganked, but I fugure if you catch me, that's on me. Good hunting.
I think most people buy Haulers from Jita and get them fitted with expanded cargohold T2s to take them to their home systems where they plan on using them, thats why you see many empty ships with cargohold II
God, i love your vids. Much love mate, and may the lootfairy be kind to you.
You're doing Bob's, Eve is a cycle and you are an important part of that eco system don't ever stop
Many Pilots do go to Jita with their cargo full of Missionloot and Salvage in order to sell and make their way home with the hauler emptied out, thats why you saw so many empty ones which were coming down from jita. Try scanning the ones that go towards jita, might yield some more jucier targets.
most people use sunesis to transport valuable mission loot to jita, and t1 hauler for the rest cheap crap. So usually it is few runs of sunesis with 500+M each, and 1 trip of nereus with near 100m loot and strong shield. Not worth it to gank.
@@LastZeel This is false.
18:45 - btw, alot of viewers might not know that remote shield repair applies its bonus immediately at the start of its cycle, whereas remote armor repair applies at the end (meaning that bonus for shield happens the moment you can obtain target lock)...even seasoned pve mission runners might not really comprehend this because for them it's local tank and a few seconds here and there doesn't really mean much to them.
The gank must go on!
Love the videos. I find them educational. I'm a new player who spams abyssal deadspaces to make ISK, but always wanted to dwelve into Pvp like this but, don't have any alts or much skills at the moment. This seems more fun and relaxing.
Epithal is the Gallenette PI ship. He is collecting his PI or moving PI. That was fun to watch. It also got me thinking, I may dip my toes into it too...
I’ve always wondered how gankers seemingly safely loot wrecks, 10:50 fleet hangar mechanic completely eluded me here. Thanks for the insight!
Well i hate deeply all gankers, but i do understand that they are important for the game, which wouldn't be the same without the constant danger that makes you keep a vigilant eye all times, and also the video was educational so i almost liked it.
19:40 btw those resources aren't NPC trade items or useless. It's PI and you can turn it into much more expensive stuff, though it looks like they haven't figured out how to make it expensive if they're in highsec...
your vids are amazing dude, keep it up! also lmao at the russian convoing you
No wonder I haven't seen you around Jita much lately. Nice content, good job!
Everything I haul is locked away in a secure container just to ruin your day.
Haha the "But its an anathanor...." I've talked myself into so many bad choices like that
The two thumbs up made me chuckle. Great video overall.
😁
02:30 - note that a ship scanner is going to be affected by scan resolution size of the target (which is why you get 100% accuracy on scanning upwells)...CODE still has their obsolete ship scanner calculator up but it's tuned to the old style shield hardeners and stuff so...yeah, not really useful anymore
Love the content Gybo, keep up the good work :)
02:15 - note that if you can hear the sound of the cargo/ship scanner going off if you're zoomed in on your hauler and you have 'ship effects' high. (you can also see the enemy vessel's effects as he does so too)
I even understood about 60% of what you are doing. The Russian was just rude, after all he was pleading to be killed around Jita flying like that.
How about this for your next Kill All..... "Kill all in alphabetical order" A pilot's name starting with A, then next B, C etc.... ship type is not a requirement, your choice to destroy :) P.S. Love the vids from a ganking point of view :)
This is a cool idea. I'm in the middle of the alphabet so pretty safe whether he starts at A or Z
All transporters should watch your videos instead of crying about their folly.
The time to remove expanders is when hauling gold bars.
It doesn’t matter if a hauler has expanders while it’s carrying nothing of value. Only a self-righteous griefer would SGank an empty hauler with weak tank.
My guess with the empty cargo holds is that your seeing people leaving after they unloaded. Maybe they are coming in from an alternate rout, and leaving where you are camped. I use unorthodox routs myself. May take longer, but its better than loosing the ship and cargo.
They were hauling materials only.
Materials -> Jita
Items
Based on the fit, that Badger with the Athanor would have had over 43k EHP and a pricetag around 85mill
Thank you for another great video.
You're welcome :)
See, it seems to me that once the scooper touches that loot, they should get flagged to be fired upon by the turrets and concord...I don't understand why they leave that loophole.
Eve has always favoured the ganker, the whole game is set up that way, only when they get outrageous do CCP change the rules a little bit, after the first gank he should have been destroyed in empire space, thats what you pay taxes for, but the status loss is small so he can re-ship many times, I don't play now but the number of -10 players hanging around high sec was ridiculous, Navy and Police should shoot them on sight, alts bring ships in and -10 then ganking and repeating the same again should never be a thing, the lore should mean outlaws should not be able to use ANY high sec services, one in low sec or null then thats different, you take your chances, at least add filaments has made null a bit less safe, it was safer than high sec patrolled by navies and concord.
@@Taz6688 I saw someone float an idea i liked; Let the security status of the pilot be reflected in the CONCORD response time. Pilots with high security should get help faster and vice versa. It's would be one more variable for sgankers to factor in and it would make staying out of trouble actually pay off in some way.
19:30 - fyi, MacGybo, the epithal hauls planetary interaction stuff so everything you saw came from a player's "colonies" on a planet. so player made not npc created. =)
Always something to learn, tyty.
How do you deal with the sec status penalty? Buy tags of the market ?
Love this content.
Can we get a montage of a bunch of kill/losses?
i hate running out of hard disk space and my nvidia recording device merrily forgets to mention that
10:14 - now, i can appreciate using mouse commands to show us what you're up to. BUT, i'd like to pass on some advice a youtube commenter gave me a couple years ago: "use F to engage drones" (the default hotkey)
i know. so much of eve doesn't have hotkey command ability but that does.
11:30 t1 with a mwd but not a cloak...probably an alpha account. 10 tech2 ogres and 3 large hyperspatial? i'm guessing for his orca?? can alphas fly orcas?
No. Maybe machariel?
umm can you upload the build on eve bench ?
Nice video , i am not sure if it because but i never get ganked especially since i put more tank in my haulers so thank you again for all this details and hints to save my ships and my commercial operation in New Eden, i have a little question why in suspect mode you are trying to recover your cruiser loot , it`s quiet dangerous i also saw that you are not using instadocks for your hauler ? why you know that nobody is there ? so there is no risks ?
what ships do you use for your cargo scanners?
Anything really. The bigger scan res the better.
I have tons of videos of ships being fit like crap, 1 prop mod and all expanders and nothing else :) might as well just destroy the stuff and save the time travelling only to get ganked.
My Badger has bit over 70k ehp, so fairly tanky for a T1 ship.
15:30 "Do it! kill me!" ~arnie voice
Nice vid, what's the track playing around 20:00?
As a bisexual transgender woman, I would like to think the Russian was just trying to ask you out on a date. However, I’m sure he was just resorting to some really primitive slurs. Glad you didn’t bite on that bait as I love your videos and often listen to them when I am dozing in bed at night, you have such a calm voice and the pace of Eve just lends itself to lullaby content. ;-)
♥️
Love the vids but you're the bane of my existence in game, on that note: 8.9k shields no holes on a tayra hauling sub 30m. Am I safe?
Nobody is ever really safe :)
My T1 hauler has 19k EHP and 3.78s align time, none of which will ever make me feel safe. Moving expensive stuff is one of the most nerv wrecking things you can do. Without MacGybo and his friends this game would be very boring.
Great video Mac 😁
How many Accounts does one need to own to do this?
Love the wallpaper!
I have a dumb Noobie question: you loose a ship when you attack, as the gate security destroys your ship, therefore you have to take the cost of that ship and it's fittings out of any profit you might gain from the cargo collected?
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Just to confirm... if any of these haulers had used the cloak trick and manual jumps, you would not have been able to do much, would you?
It would have made it more difficult, yeah.
@@MacGybo what could have still made it possible if they did? If they timed it wrong for example? Or you would have used a trick to prevent them from cloaking (like a jettisoned container less than 2000m from the drop-in?). Is that still even possible around gates?
T1 haulers cannot fit Covert Ops cloaks which is required for warping cloaked. All you can do with a cloak fitted T1 is cloak and coast at 10+% speed away from the gate.
The only hauler that can for a Covert Ops cloak is the Blockade Runner; which can warp cloaked, cannot be cargo scanned and start at 150'ish mill unfitted.
Yessir, I would like to complain about this business of killing all "haulers" I for one spend much of my eve-time is such a ship and cannot protest strongly enough about this cruel and completely uncalled for assault on us honest industrialists, simply trying to make a living. I will reporting this blatant and prejudicial injustice to the powers that be... whomever that is, and will relish the inevitable persecution you undoubtedly will soon be under. .. keep up the good work :) IGN Rancorz
You have a nice accent. Lmao @ that email.
It was an Athanor.
And it still is. Damn shields.....
Good thing i only fly haulers with max possible tank
Tornado next? :D
My question is you're ganker will go criminal. How do you reuse that ganker after it has one red or do you roll new toons each time?
criminal debuff only lasts a few mins. He just goes and gets in a new ship
i love eve been plauing maybe 6 weeks but it can be brutal ive not had many bad experiences getting ganked but if i had i bet i wouldve left the game already and not have given it a chance
The Russian conversation was so unsurprising. :D
Ya, a homophobic russian ... who saw that coming
I only autopilot in an empty hauler... 👉😎
What's yr in-game name? ;)
Lol that russian. Must have been accidentally loaded with rainbow bullets.
nicely explained
Excelente catedral .
22:30 ugh...all those blueprint originals. booo RNJesus wasn't kind
good vid
gg
they dont bring stuff out of jita, thye bring their crap to sell! of course they come back empty xD
specialy in t1 hauler
People who transport expensive stuff to Jita to sell (producers), probably do so in bulk and in big freighters which _most_ gankers dont bother with. People who buy that stuff on the other hand, should be more likely to do so in smaller amounts and smaller ships, it kinda makes sense.
What's with the mask ?
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ye i wonder why he think sexual preference has to do with dying quickly to gankers. lol
sounds insecure projection maybe :)
Noobs never sub because the harsh reality of getting ganked in high sec and therefore get scared away, in turn CCP comes up with monetization schemes. Have noticed the slow decline in players?
Have you got anything to support this? The link between a decline in players and ganking?
nope, just stories of new players that tried Eve but never subbed because they got ganked. What's your opinion?
My opinion is that you said something and had no proof. I could easily say "I've shot lots of newbies who have then become aware of HS rules and been grateful and moved on, educated and grateful".
ok, not 100% of noobs.
@@mauricioliscano847 For what it's worth, very very few of the people I kill with big cargos are newbies. Most are older players who should know better.
Why do you have a face mask when you are on your own? To prevent catching the big C off yourself? Get rid of that crap
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Let me explain the Russian. You see, we all think that ganking is a homosexual act. So, you may be. This is the problem with Eve. These PPL you gank are NewBro, and well, as newbro it's not a good way to spend your time, and they shuffle off to other games. You must accept responsibility for your actions. CCP is also responsible for having this as a part of the game.
I did a video to address these accusations that I gank newbros. In short, I don't. And those I do end up sticking around. But thanks for the comment.
That still don't explain the somewhat fuzzy connection between a way to play the game and a certain sexual orientation. All it shows is a homophobic opinion of more or less a whole country apparently populated by troglodytes.
13:00 it's okay to be "confused" about your sexual identity. we understand. hugs?
What a pathetic way to make isk. I'd rather mine in High-Sec.
Very informative, thanks MacGybo. o7
Welll this is not profitble cus u need 3 omega account its just make negative dolar or isk its dum