Can you beat the Fire Vellumental Boss WITHOUT ATTACKING IT? [Paper Mario: The Origami King]

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  • Let's see what happens if we don't attack the Fire Vellumental in Paper Mario: The Origami King. Can we beat the Fire Vellumental Boss (aka Moltres) without attacking it? Or do we have to attack the Fire Vellumental to defeat it? In this video, we experiment with what happens if you don't attack the Fire Vellumental boss.
    #PaperMarioTheOrigamiKing #FireVellumental #NintendoSwitch
    This is definitely not the strategy you'd see in a world record speedrun of Paper Mario The Origami King, but it's a safe strategy and a pretty unique/ unconventional way of approaching the boss.
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  • @ZXMany
    @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

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    • @davidmartins7003
      @davidmartins7003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ZXMany what part are you on? Or are you just starting over?

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidmartins7003 I've finished Paper Mario The Origami King twice so far, and I have a bunch of video clips saved that I use for my videos, and I sometimes go back to certain areas for exploring/ testing out new ideas
      On my stream, we're playing through the Paper Mario 20th Anniversary Mod right now, and we're on the second last chapter, so we'll be finishing the game most likely during tomorrow's stream :) Something really cool about this version of the game is that you can refight the bosses after beating the game and the bosses are much harder difficulty when you refight them! I'm thinking of doing Paper Mario Master Quest after, which sounds insane. Some of my friends have told me they've spent days trying to beat certain bosses

    • @Torcat97
      @Torcat97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get me a master ball

    • @maelmcd
      @maelmcd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Torcat97 useful to skip Fire vellum

    • @stevekilledme7017
      @stevekilledme7017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Help me to kill the fire vellamentall

  • @boogonzalez24
    @boogonzalez24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Bring me Moltres: Moltres. I said the real Moltres: Galar Moltres. I said the real MOLTRES: Fire velermetal perfection

  • @davidmartins7003
    @davidmartins7003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I actually never thought about this, because it just shouts the feathers, btw this was really cool!

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you, thanks for checking it out!

    • @PROPLAYEN
      @PROPLAYEN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Shouting feathers

  • @CrypticWaves
    @CrypticWaves 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Darn it if only I didn’t waste my master ball on the worst Pokémon

  • @nickal2607
    @nickal2607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This was a great presentation, it was really well thought out, I enjoyed it!

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Really glad you enjoyed it, thank you very much for the comment!

  • @spectralphoenix7565
    @spectralphoenix7565 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You've helped me with 99% of the bosses in this game, Thank you! Keep up the good work

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Really glad I could help you, thanks so much for the comment! Hope you're enjoying the game :)

    • @IconicEnemy
      @IconicEnemy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just like watching this guy for entertainment

  • @RGC_animation
    @RGC_animation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Olivia: Hey, but you're not killing yourself!
    Fire Velumental: Oops, almost forgot!
    *Proceed to heal to full health

  • @omegaknight6421
    @omegaknight6421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is kinda like wat happens with rubber band
    Once it reaches a low enough health it stops using its rubber bands and only attacks with snapback

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, exactly! And it also needs a 1000-fold-arm attack to finish it off

    • @sillyboy54
      @sillyboy54 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Zaden Daticceness YT ツ I n f e r n a l a i r s l e e v e s

  • @sebastiansanchez1012
    @sebastiansanchez1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I would love to see more challenges one I thought of is if you can beat the game with only the standard hammer and boots

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a really great one, and in parts of the game where spikey enemies are lined up in a straight line would be difficult because you can't use iron boots!

    • @sebastiansanchez1012
      @sebastiansanchez1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany yeah so you have to find a way to make them in range for a hammer attack once I beat the game I'm gonna try my challenge

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastiansanchez1012 Good luck! That's a really cool idea and it sounds fun. Make sure your HP is high enough, because there's a green streamer battle that is basically impossible to do that if your HP is too low

    • @sebastiansanchez1012
      @sebastiansanchez1012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZXMany Wow really? Is it a boss or a normal battle since I rarely done battles in green streamer

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastiansanchez1012 One of the scripted battles early in the green streamer :)

  • @arloklenczon5993
    @arloklenczon5993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Fire Vellumental is a unique boss because it's up is equal to how many feathers are on its body.
    Rubber Band: Am I a joke to you?

  • @BronzeSpaceComet
    @BronzeSpaceComet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I tried this not long ago too. Really interesting. Great video!

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for checking it out and thank you very much for the comment, glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ToadyPlayz
    @ToadyPlayz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The new game: Paper Mario & Origami Moltres the Origami King

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gotta catch em all!

    • @ToadyPlayz
      @ToadyPlayz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Orimon, GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL

  • @skimbeeble8115
    @skimbeeble8115 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thats keeping it family friendly

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, exactly, no violence at all!

  • @eyeballlad5913
    @eyeballlad5913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dang it I Wish i Could Give You A Pokeball...
    But...
    I Used my Last One On a Shuckle...

  • @NotHenryID10t
    @NotHenryID10t 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You deserves more subscribers I really like your content you helped me a lot in paper Mario the origami king

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much for the kind comment, I'm really glad my videos helped you and I appreciate the kind comment! You can stop by my Twitch streams or join my Discord if you want to hang out with some of my viewers sometime, it's a really nice growing community! Have a nice day :)

  • @FoldTrace
    @FoldTrace 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I dont remember suscribing to a challenge channel
    (keep more challenges)

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awesome, really glad you like it! I was planning on doing a lot more like this, so I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @catfrombowsersfury1654
    @catfrombowsersfury1654 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You need more subscribers

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much, I appreciate that! We've been getting 20-40 subscribers per day for the last few days! I'm really happy about how quickly this channel is growing :) Hope you enjoy the content!

  • @ShinyTheJirachi
    @ShinyTheJirachi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moltres is my favorite fire-type pokémon.

  • @KrunchyKatt1
    @KrunchyKatt1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ZX:attacks with boots
    The title and challenge:Am I a JoKe To YoU!?!?

  • @kan776
    @kan776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks ZXmany!

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mario got Moltres
    - Rift 2024

  • @DrLuke23
    @DrLuke23 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have idea for a video “ can you beat tape phase 2 without attacking”.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much for the comment! Great idea :) I have more boss experimentation videos coming soon!

  • @OrangeStaringCat
    @OrangeStaringCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, 2 questions..
    Can you beat the second phase of the tape and the rubber band boss without attacking it too? Cause their HP will get low too by their attacks.
    Second question is about something else. When the nintendo games remasters will release on switch, will you make videos about those games too?
    Keep up the good work have a nice day

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great questions! For the first question, it doesn't work for Tape: if he puts enough tape on the board, it eventually ends up healing itself, pulling back all of the tape.
      For the second question, I think I might, I was planning on doing that with Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles :)
      You have a nice day as well!

    • @OrangeStaringCat
      @OrangeStaringCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ZXMany thank you, I was just interested :)

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OrangeStaringCat Yeah, that's fantastic! It's great to think about what would happen and have theories and ask "what if?"

    • @OrangeStaringCat
      @OrangeStaringCat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ZXMany yeah exactly, I always do that

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OrangeStaringCat Yeah, it's good to be curious and to keep learning :)

  • @commanderglowsquid8969
    @commanderglowsquid8969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so we know mario in jail is his most popular video but which one is the opposite? this one apparently

  • @Fire.....
    @Fire..... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rubber band: Am i a joke to you?

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love that "Am I a joke to you?" meme 😂

  • @kubixdaboi424
    @kubixdaboi424 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    0:01 THAT’S LITERALLY WHAT I FOUGHT WHEN I FIRSTLY SAW HIM

  • @michael92872
    @michael92872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the fire vellumental is kinda like tape,tape decides to roll tape around the field in phase 2,which does damage it,but obviously it wont kill it... at least i think it wont if it has max tape on the field

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tape and the Fire Vellumental are really similar, yeah! If there's enough tape on the field, the Tape boss will scoop it up and heal itself 😂 But yeah, both bosses won't defeat themselves with their own attacks, luckily they have that game mechanic in place!

  • @SomeRandomKevinGuy
    @SomeRandomKevinGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually thought that i had to wait until the fire vellumental used so many feathers that its hp was low enough to finish it in one shot

  • @superstart7406
    @superstart7406 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    the rubber band kinda do it, evrytime he sets rubber on the tiles he loses health but will pull that rubber back
    imagine beating rubber band boss just my breacking the rubber it places on the field

  • @CorporateSalmon
    @CorporateSalmon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I did this casually....

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amazing!

  • @TanBrosSAndYYT
    @TanBrosSAndYYT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Moltres in a nutshell

  • @phoenixstormjr.1018
    @phoenixstormjr.1018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok NOW the rubber band thingie.

  •  หลายเดือนก่อน

    MOLTRES!!! MARIO GOT MOLTRES!!!

  • @Xman_0613
    @Xman_0613 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew you could do this because I forgot iron boots when fighting it in my no death run of the game.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's awesome! It would've been really funny if the fire vellumental would shed out its last few feathers and we didn't have to attack it at all 😂

  • @laurakinney7199
    @laurakinney7199 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes you can I’ve done it in a speedrun

  • @Th3_anime_kid
    @Th3_anime_kid 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    YOU CAN after it sheds all its feeders jump on it alot of times

  • @Torcat97
    @Torcat97 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I need a master ball for the shiny moltres

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂

    • @Torcat97
      @Torcat97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love you’re vids

  • @Coocoocrazytoysreviews
    @Coocoocrazytoysreviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is Moltres

  • @denischen8196
    @denischen8196 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it possible for the Tape boss to defeat itself by using up all of its tape?
    Is it possible for the Rubber Band boss to enter the final phase without attacking it?

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great questions! Tape ends up healing itself after using roll out a few times. It'd be really interesting to weaken it and see if it would roll out the last of its tape, hahaha
      I'd also be really interested to see what happens with Rubber Band, I haven't experimented with that idea, that's a great idea!

    • @finnvaneekelen7740
      @finnvaneekelen7740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ZXMany i think rubber band would just stop shooting number bands and force you to attack. It could allow you to beat it with just 1 1FO

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finnvaneekelen7740 I was actually experimenting with that today :) When its HP gets low enough, it stops shooting out rubber bands, and you have to use 1FA to get it into phase 2. Once you're in phase 2, only 1FA can defeat it, so you have to use 1FA at least twice in the fight

    • @finnvaneekelen7740
      @finnvaneekelen7740 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany oh i thought if you got its hp low enough you could just kill it with an attack becasue it cant heal if its dead but that also makes sense

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@finnvaneekelen7740 Yeah, if you get its HP low enough and rid of all of the elastic bands in phase 1, all of your attacks will do 0 damage except for 1FA, which will do 1 damage and bring the boss into phase 2 :)

  • @reddo4079
    @reddo4079 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually did do this with the rubber band boss

  • @Serious5GamingS5G
    @Serious5GamingS5G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's not just based off of Moltres, it's also based off of a Phoenix

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, exactly!

    • @Serious5GamingS5G
      @Serious5GamingS5G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany yeah (I guess Moltres is also based off a Phoenix too)

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Serious5GamingS5G Yeah, they probably share the same origin or a similar inspiration :)

    • @Serious5GamingS5G
      @Serious5GamingS5G 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZXMany true ;P

    • @Serious5GamingS5G
      @Serious5GamingS5G 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany Moltres the Pokemon phoenix and fire vellumental the origami phoenix :P

  • @lillobster9355
    @lillobster9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey ZXmany, in my opinion, this boss is a phoenix, not a moltres. But i do like that name for it.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, that would make sense with the feathers!

    • @lillobster9355
      @lillobster9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany Yeah because the water and fire vullamentals are based on two mythical creatures, a Dragon and a phoenix, the earth and ice vullamentals are based on real animals, a turtle and a polar bear, but you figured that out already.

  • @toddbrown7074
    @toddbrown7074 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you never used the ice hammer from the shuriken dojo. can you please see if it works.

  • @lillobster9355
    @lillobster9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey ZX, today i got a shiny Skarmory and a shiny Heracross in my Pokémon Shield Version.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome, shinies are so rare! There's someone in our Discord server who also does hunting for shiny Pokemon!

    • @lillobster9355
      @lillobster9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany i got them both today, i barely started soft resetting for the heracross and i got insanely quick.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lillobster9355 That's awesome luck!

    • @lillobster9355
      @lillobster9355 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany thanks man, btw i'm trying you're discord server but something went wrong.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lillobster9355 Looks like you're here now :)

  • @StevenJones851
    @StevenJones851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this boss was the most difficult boss in the game so much difficulty ^.^

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very hard boss indeed!

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany will you go over the ice vulermental? :)

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@StevenJones851 I do have a guide video for the ice vellumental, yes!

    • @StevenJones851
      @StevenJones851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ZXMany I'll check the video out later!!! :)

  • @vibingmushroom
    @vibingmushroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You gave me a heart attack:
    bUt wAiT

  • @goatasourus2148
    @goatasourus2148 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Moltres was here 😂

  • @splatoon280
    @splatoon280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ice fire flower is it ice or fire or it makes burning ice cubes

  • @IW_CoFORGE_A4Y4N
    @IW_CoFORGE_A4Y4N 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You said lol its moltres from pokemon

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah! 😂

  • @christophfunk2329
    @christophfunk2329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if you make your attack points to 999999999999999999999999999 this maybe go through the defense of the head feathers

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great question! I have a video where we test something similar: in this game, Mario's damage depends on his total HP, so if we want Mario to do more damage, we increase his HP. I think certain bosses are given a high enough defence so that nothing can damage them except for certain moves (like the 1000-fold-arms), but I still have more testing to do :)

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And here's the video for anyone who's interested! th-cam.com/video/RH_YPo2DWRk/w-d-xo.html

  • @s698115
    @s698115 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    cant you use the code to edit the game?

  • @AMentallyStableCharacter
    @AMentallyStableCharacter 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tape is the same with roll out

  • @ioanaflorescu8748
    @ioanaflorescu8748 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What if you use thousandfold arms without using the water Elemental

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think you take some damage because the fire burns you

  • @vazqueztt
    @vazqueztt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol it's Moltres

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly 😂

  • @tot3m74
    @tot3m74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I did to defeat it on my first run

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's awesome!

  • @craig00199
    @craig00199 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Zxmany I don’t think I can mod paper Mario the origami king

  • @Liam16
    @Liam16 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    do i get credit for this video?

  • @SonicPlushTuber
    @SonicPlushTuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No you're actually wrong I did it before and I had to use the thousandfold on technique at the end

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's wrong? :o

    • @SonicPlushTuber
      @SonicPlushTuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was just trying to tell you it was actually a fact because I had a strategy for it
      Part 1 make Fire vellumental lose all of its feathers
      Part 2 heal
      Part 3 use the water vellumental Magic Circle
      Part 4 use the 1000 fold arms to pluck it

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonicPlushTuber Yeah, that strategy definitely works!

    • @SonicPlushTuber
      @SonicPlushTuber 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It does

  • @conorbarrett7414
    @conorbarrett7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shiny moltres

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Mario defeated the shiny moltres instead of catching it 😂

    • @conorbarrett7414
      @conorbarrett7414 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZXMany oh no

  • @melissagirard241
    @melissagirard241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean you can get pretty far, but you can't beat it as far as i know

  • @wilderduran5431
    @wilderduran5431 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought about this! But I gave up because there were too many Molten Feathers.

    • @ZXMany
      @ZXMany  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, an easy way around that is either bringing a heart right up to Mario or putting an empty tile in front of him, so he won't walk on any of the feathers

  • @PokaDoht
    @PokaDoht 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Water vellumental = not mario
    (edit) but 1FA is mario

  • @tianah3843
    @tianah3843 3 ปีที่แล้ว