Rolled exactly 1 so far and that one the welds that held the tounge to the 5th wheel plate broke on one side and caused it to rock to the side while it was in the air and snap the piston. Heh not a good day. Sad thing is the company checked with a laser level to see if i screwed up. The ground where it went over was nearly perfectly level and was in a damn rock bin.
Me too I had that happen to me once we were tipping on unstable ground the digger operator was told to keep his bucket in my bin until it was empty and he didn’t 😢
O, I think that you are on to something, I thought it was open by the little bit of dirt that was on the ground they were backed up to, but when it hit the ground you see the gate pop open 🤔
I've seen plenty of side dumpers in Eugene OR, loaded, and empty. Wildish Construction, and Egge Sand & Gravel are 2 of the oldest I can recall seeing.
Before you raise the box more than 10 feet you back up and hit the brakes to shift the load backwards and loosen the contents a bit then you resume raising the box, paying attention to how the load is dispersing! Occasionally you need to jolt the load to keep it moving before you raise it all the way up!
My municipal street department found this out the hard way. They used to park some of the plow trucks in cold storage filed with salt/sand mix not realizing the sand freezes. Well, they found out one truck they raised the box and it tipped the box over. Snapped the ram.
looking at it my view the tailgate was not open and was not letting the material fully out plus the gate being stuck behind the small pile did not help at all and guy was just dumping not paying attention and did not check the gate before dumping to make sure he had a good enough clearance then when bed went up the material was just staying there bc it had no were to go so if i was a truck driver caring a end dump i would recommend adding a quicksilver bed liner in the back then the materal can start slinding out by the 2nd to the 3rd stage
Load was struck....driver should have noticed this ....but this does happen if your not paying attention to your dumping.... I haul end dump🇨🇦 and I'm always watching the trailer when dumping 😎
I run a 2022 quad axle kenworth t880s with an tebco aluminum dump body. 25,900 empty weight. Hauling 27 ton. And I’d take a 85 359 with an end dump any day.
I worked at a limestone rock quarry that was using Volvo A-35 6x6 off road end dumps. They virtually bullet proof, and slightly idiot proof. One of the dumdum resistant features was the fact that since it was an articulated steering truck, it had a pivot point between the cab and the dump bed. It was made to be able to dump on somewhat uneven ground, and it was pretty forgiving. But we had a few 18-20 year old dum dums that apparently never took the extreme limits of the truck into consideration, and would tip the bed. The cool thing about these trucks though, is only the bed would fall over, and the cab would stay upright. It was safe, and it (usually) didn’t fuck up the truck. We would get a track hoe to grab it by the bed, flip it back over, and send it to get another load! Not trying to compare the A-35 to the one in this video btw. The video just reminded me of how badass those off-road trucks are!
A local company trucked in dry fertilizer during season for the company I worked for. And it all cane in on dump trailers. They were fourty footers with full frames. The drivers were very picky and careful with the operation of their trailers. They had their tricks, and they must work since they never dumped a trailer at our facility.
@@ronfullerton3162 I’ll dump a load every 30 minutes sometimes so we don’t have time to level or even get out of truck. A 40 ft over road trailer has to be level and loaded right and even watch the wind. These guys may dump only once or twice a day. They use those where I live to haul road salt I use to do that.
@@Peterbilt359 The guys hauling into me had an hour drive both to and back from the river terminal to pickup the fertilizer. Urea and dap both unload very good. We had to use the small door in the tail gate because we unloaded into a chain link conveyor that fed a bucket leg. The drivers would raise just enough to cause more product to roll down, then drop the trailer some. It was indeed a slow unload as to what you evidently had to do. When they hauled potash, it didn't flow as well, and sometimes would bridge up if there were too much fines. They just had to watch a little closer. Hats off to the men of Bell's Ready Mix that did such a wonderful job of keeping me running in season when rail service was not fast enough during the crunch. Good drivers are a very big plus for the customers they serve.
@@Peterbilt359very unsafe to say you don’t have time to be level … not that much rushing in the world. You won’t have equipment to work with if you keep living by that statement
I've been running end dump now 4 months now I've never done this before I've got 18 years trucking all otr this is new to me I'm loving it as long as u pay attention to what your doing this won't happen
I drove tractor trailer end dumps for 2 years around Dallas and Ft Worth in the early 90's. Loved the job. Was fortunate to never turn one over. 28' and 32' aluminum frame less Mates, 36' 44 yard Full frame CPS and my favorite was a 37' Lufkin Featherlite. Hauling on a job site bringing in fill dirt. The spotter spotted three trucks side by side. I watched them domino over. Yep, shut that job down!!
I hauled end dumps for 5 years and never had a problem. Of course we sprayed our dumps with diesel back in the days so our load wouldn't stick especially in the winter.
Pretty much anything from the east coast to the Midwest uses end dumps. When you get out west is when you start seeing belly dumps and side dumps. Out there they have pretty much made everything to suite them. But not out east. They'll look at you a little weird if you pull up with a belly dump with anything but a grain hopper.
you americans call things some weird fkn names. either way been using these for years. currently running a t909 with a quin dog with quicksilver floors. best invention ever.
thats exactly why I dont pull one. Once upon a time I drove a garbage truck where it froze in the nose overnight and damn near tipped over. That was about the last time
Love all the open gates first comments. Its a sticky load issue. We were on a job in the winter in below freezing temps and belly dumps were being loaded with wet pit run and the loads froze solid. Same issue here. Very wet load.
The full frame end dumps 32 feet or less in length are a lot more stable, but everybody wants that extra payload a long frameless trailer will give them….until you have to dump on a windy day, then all that extra profit is laying on the ground twisted and smashed to pieces.
I checked with shops before buying one, and they seem to get more frame type on springs in for rebuilding/ repair after incidents. Take care and good luck out there.
I pull an end dump trailer in Minnesota. We have Federal Bridge laws which means the typical quad axle dump truck can haul about 17.5 to 18 tons and quint can haul between 19.5 to 20. I haul material for asphalt plants and get paid by weight. I can haul 26.25 with end dump.
@@Compression_Igniton Yep, I agree, but that's the maximum allowed by law. If you go over and are caught, the fines are SIGNIFICANT!! In a Federal Bridge Law State, the maximum weight of a triaxle is 57,000 lbs, a quad is 63,000 and a quint axle is 69,000. For a semi truck is 80,000 lbs. I have an overweight permit and can run 84,000 lbs for a maximum net payload of about 27.5 tons.
Load for a quarry in the KC area and depending where the truck is going load limits for tri range from 14.5 tons to 30 tons. Have a large end dump who comes in that we routinely load around 56 ton. Most end dump drivers tell use how they like their load stacked in their trailers. Most like it weighted to the rear some to the front.
The video description says can't haul as much? The point is end dumps generally can haul more than a standard dump truck, can carry more weight and dump faster. They all have their place, but yes end dumps can be the most dangerous compared to dump trucks or bellies.
Don’t blame the driver so quick I have operated frameless dumps he could have blown airbag maybe the asphalt giveaway or something broke lotta possibilities
It looked like the truck was on level ground but the trailer was way overloaded! I pull end dumps and highsides in California. We don't have combinations like Dauminique and are limited 80,000lbs so we bridged the gap between a super and a transfer.
@angelmunoz3462 could have been a flat tire to. That's why I check my tires before dumping. Also a vital component may have failed to due to improper maintenance.
We had 4 or 5 at my work and we got rid of all of them except 1 and its just used around the pit. I always loved when it would be loaded and up in the air and coming down the filter check relief valve would fail and the threads and filter would get ripped off and down she comes and out comes 20-30 gallons of hyd fluid. Easy to work on though.
Check tire pressure, Check suface level, Check springs , make sure trailer is clean after every delivery no material sticking to the trailer floor, If possible order custom trailer with front end of trailer 4-6'' narrow than rear end. fully trained driver can help a lot
I rode one over in the late 80's. Load of dirt was heavy and stuck; it was a wild ride. It helps to have a good single point suspension like a Neway. Air rides are horrible, I'd never buy air ride for construction use
Flowboy trailers are the only way to go! I drove for a big asphalt paving company in VT and NH and safely hauled asphalt and aggregates and sand. And you didn't have to be sitting level or if the wind was blowing!
Gotta be level, I never had a frameless my trailer was from the early 60s and my truck was a 68....had a nice frame on it but I still made sure I was level and wouldn't raise this high unless I was on pavement ....call me cautious but that was 1995 and all of our stuff was repaired with farmers wire....
I've pulled framed dumps and frameless dumps for 20yrs and one thing you better do is look in your mirror constantly, if that trl doesn't look straight going up STOP and lower it. Reposition if you have to, also make sure your tires are properly inflated a blowout can turn a 15 minute job into a 3 or more hour recovery. Never get in a hurry and pay attention to what you are doing.
We used to get these trailers coming in to dump, the guy that usually came in said he would soak the bottom down with diesel before he got loaded up so no material sticks to the bottom, also would definitely make sure he’s on flat ground. He never tipped one, but we did see a couple other guys tip them because they didn’t use right precautions
I used to pull a frameless aluminum dump. From what I remember it was one of lightest dump trailers out, which means it could carry the most product. Also, I've never flipped one, but I've had my butt puckering a few times due to how much they sway when the load doesn't come out all at once...
I am in the farming and never rolled anything like that. Yet. My stuff flows easily, so it is not that easy to flip. You just do not max out your ram early, when there is still lots of heavy stuff in front. How how you combat the risk dumping less cooperating stuff?
There is a lot more going on with that trailer I’ve been running end dump for years something is up with that trailer other than it looked like the gate wasn’t unlocked until it fell over but it could of had a bent arms or the ram but they don’t just lean like that for no reason
The way I've seen it is they are supposed to pull forwad as soon as the dump box is all the way up. It does look like they are in an enclosed area. They probably could have pulled forward up to the fence then lowered the dump box half empty and drove to a new spot and raised and dumped the second half. There is a chance that it could also have been managers orders in a complex situation. The way the back gate hinges on the top back corner doesn't allow the whole thing to empty at once without pulling forward.
Seen this happen to a driver over loaded with hurricane debris. He was on his fone & not paying attention. How a driver doesn't see or even feel the trailer leaning I will never understand.
We use them for road building materials. However, either as a semi-circular steel or square in aluminum and then not such high ones. We have a moving floor for wood chips. The steel troughs are actually quite solid and nothing rarely sticks, the aluminum troughs are worse for dirt. But they are good for asphalt because they are thermally insulated. These high hollows are actually not suitable for dirt and are very unstable.
I overload mine every day of the week grossing 108k with fill dirt and have never had an issue. Dump trucks in my area don't even want to weigh 75k gross. Dump wagon is the way to go!
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver I mean my gross is only around 76k and there's no way a dump truck can touch what I haul bc they don't have the space. I'm just confused as to what your calling a truck and trailer vs end dump. And where is it that you are hauling?
If you don't know how to use the equipment it's definitely a good idea to not use it. I'm glad you guys understand your limitations and don't put other people on danger.
As a dump truck driver i can tell you that happened to him becouse he wanted too if you feel then trailer leaning to one side you drop it down as soon as you feel it abs see it . If your load is not properly loaded you can definitely feel it to and see it . What happend to some people is that they start raising the bucket while looking and something else, phone ,paperwork, or what ever else . This is the part that requires all your attention, 1 sec can make the difference between saving the truck or this. Im not saying every accident is the driver fault not at all but some driver are not as careful.
I pulled frameless dumps for ten years and never rolled over. I hauled everything from steel to asphalt to concrete in the demolition field. We had cattle gates and this trailer appears to have a lift gate or they forgot to open the back door.
This can happen with a regular dump truck too tho. My old man was a dump truck driver Owner op for about 10 years. 1st rule of dumpin is make sure youre on level ground.
I pulled end dumps for 7 year + been driving 39 , we call them frameless but u have to use commons sense b on level ground to dump them all, u dam sure better b paying attention, hey y’all a great day 😊
Is that so? Depends on the regulations. We are allowed a maximum of 40t here. Semi weighs 12t, a trailer combination 16t and consumes 6l/100km more. As a compromise we have 4x4 semis. I don't know what his problem was, but these trailers usually have air suspension with a tipper lowering so that they stand more solidly. These large-capacity troughs are problematic if the load doesn't slide. I've seen this a few times in life.
You should always know your load and how it was loaded before you run a dump trailer it is an art to running one of those I used to do things with those trailers that would scare the average person
My father had that happen to him probably 25 years ago now in a 359 with a dump trailer totaled the trailer but the truck dident roll so insurance didn’t total it but it still bent the frame ripped air lines and poped some of the tires and bent the rims
I’ve been pulling dump trailers for 30 years and still ain’t rolled one but by god there’s been some close calls.
Are belly dumps or side dumps better?
Rolled exactly 1 so far and that one the welds that held the tounge to the 5th wheel plate broke on one side and caused it to rock to the side while it was in the air and snap the piston. Heh not a good day.
Sad thing is the company checked with a laser level to see if i screwed up. The ground where it went over was nearly perfectly level and was in a damn rock bin.
I can confirm that those close calls left a shitstain in them seat
I can vouch for that. I retired after 30 years of dumpers, driving through Canada year round. Frozen loads made my heart skip a beat or two....🙏👍🏼
@@arcticfox5118 that wasn’t your fault.
That was 100% operator fault!
Yep
Also the owner for not having a liner in the floor. They are tricky for a guy like in the video
Si Señor
specially if it was 🧊
No
@@brian_2040 What if the owner was the driver? lol.
It helps to open the tailgate first .I use them all day .
Me too I had that happen to me once we were tipping on unstable ground the digger operator was told to keep his bucket in my bin until it was empty and he didn’t 😢
O, I think that you are on to something, I thought it was open by the little bit of dirt that was on the ground they were backed up to, but when it hit the ground you see the gate pop open 🤔
Took that ride before. Not fun at all.
They're dumping on asphalt! This looks more like a test facility looking at overloading and eccentric loads.
Rookie
If the back end isn’t absolutely level, don’t even bother to start.
That's Right
How to level
Not true…we don’t live in that world…
You either have it or you don’t…period
How tf are you gonna be leveled at the dump or at a construction site
you can't always gat level. you need to make sure it comes out and evenly.
It's amazing what happens when you unlock the gate. Been using end dumps for years. No problems
Look closer, the gate is open.
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver Yes, it's open but there's something in front of the gate that's blocking the door or is that misleading on the video?
I’d rather have a barn door instead of a swing gate.
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriveryou guys don’t have one operator qualified to dump an end dump lmao what?
@@PropperNaughtyGeezerhe rolled back in the pile shutting the door big no no
10 yrs never tipped one, but it takes a safe and patient driver.
You just have to know how to use your equipment.. Here in the southeast U.S. most tow rigs are end dumps. I never see side dumps..
Lots of belly dumps also.
I've seen plenty of side dumpers in Eugene OR, loaded, and empty. Wildish Construction, and Egge Sand & Gravel are 2 of the oldest I can recall seeing.
Side dumps go over all the time. But it’s no big deal. Most the time
@@robgeronimo8478They absoutely do not go over
I like both of them!
It's actually kinda necessary to be a wee bit brighter than what you're working with
So he's dumber than a box of rocks 🎉🎉🎉!!
Before you raise the box more than 10 feet you back up and hit the brakes to shift the load backwards and loosen the contents a bit then you resume raising the box, paying attention to how the load is dispersing! Occasionally you need to jolt the load to keep it moving before you raise it all the way up!
Thanks for the tip man!! This is a dream job for me
That's a great tip
Yeppers, 3rd stage and ain't got the first pebble on the ground yet; 🫣🫣😮,........🫡 (here's your sign) 😂
OPEN Your Tailgate Before You even engage pto😉😉
Vrkhudjhdmjrkieisiekdkirkie🎉😮rd@@Illeasss90
Happen to me first week on job😅 literally had us backing in the field with single axle
Dump level problem solved
Obviously, they don't know what it is or have never seen one! Lol😂
You don't ever send up all the way up until your load is sliding out. Lift very slow till load is sliding out. If not Stop till it break free
My municipal street department found this out the hard way.
They used to park some of the plow trucks in cold storage filed with salt/sand mix not realizing the sand freezes.
Well, they found out one truck they raised the box and it tipped the box over. Snapped the ram.
That’s operator error
Thanks!
Welcome!
You have to get them on the level before you even start lifting
and you shouldn't be dumping up hill
@@davidsignor7931i do that daily, no probem with doing that. Every day on a 8% incline for the last 12years
@@davidsignor7931 I did that today. First stage I noticed it leaning so I repositioned and no lean but still up hill. 3 loads no problems
I said you shouldn't not you can't
@@davidsignor7931 have you done any tipper work mate
looking at it my view the tailgate was not open and was not letting the material fully out plus the gate being stuck behind the small pile did not help at all and guy was just dumping not paying attention and did not check the gate before dumping to make sure he had a good enough clearance then when bed went up the material was just staying there bc it had no were to go so if i was a truck driver caring a end dump i would recommend adding a quicksilver bed liner in the back then the materal can start slinding out by the 2nd to the 3rd stage
Load was struck....driver should have noticed this ....but this does happen if your not paying attention to your dumping.... I haul end dump🇨🇦 and I'm always watching the trailer when dumping 😎
Yep that mill scale and coke is the worst also B scrap. I hate that shit..
You said it.... Pay attention.
Well goooodd fer yewww!!!
Make yt videos
Load wasn’t stuck. It was leaning from the beginning.
Always surprises me how these super long end dumps don’t have outriggers.
Right? The trailer has already got a hydraulic system too, it'd be so easy to add legs
Doesn’t need them, just need an operator with half a brain
I run a 2022 quad axle kenworth t880s with an tebco aluminum dump body. 25,900 empty weight. Hauling 27 ton. And I’d take a 85 359 with an end dump any day.
Fast forward 9 months. Running an end dump with a 379 Pete!
You can't haul with the end dump what you can with a truck and you are limited on where you can put it 😅
Not if you run overweight 🤘🏼 and I run a 39 ft end dump. I have much more room than a dump truck. Ha
@Keepingthefaith120 It never hurts to dream I guess. I suppose when you magically get it where a truck won't it's on perfectly level ground too.
Dream? I run overweight everyday. Rolling on the dough. Your comments don’t make sense. You must not be from America.
I worked at a limestone rock quarry that was using Volvo A-35 6x6 off road end dumps. They virtually bullet proof, and slightly idiot proof. One of the dumdum resistant features was the fact that since it was an articulated steering truck, it had a pivot point between the cab and the dump bed. It was made to be able to dump on somewhat uneven ground, and it was pretty forgiving. But we had a few 18-20 year old dum dums that apparently never took the extreme limits of the truck into consideration, and would tip the bed. The cool thing about these trucks though, is only the bed would fall over, and the cab would stay upright. It was safe, and it (usually) didn’t fuck up the truck. We would get a track hoe to grab it by the bed, flip it back over, and send it to get another load!
Not trying to compare the A-35 to the one in this video btw. The video just reminded me of how badass those off-road trucks are!
I own 5 of them. I’ve had short and long. Currently run 32ft tubs. Pulled them since 1987. I’ve tipped one. There are a few basic tricks.
A local company trucked in dry fertilizer during season for the company I worked for. And it all cane in on dump trailers. They were fourty footers with full frames. The drivers were very picky and careful with the operation of their trailers. They had their tricks, and they must work since they never dumped a trailer at our facility.
@@ronfullerton3162 I’ll dump a load every 30 minutes sometimes so we don’t have time to level or even get out of truck. A 40 ft over road trailer has to be level and loaded right and even watch the wind. These guys may dump only once or twice a day. They use those where I live to haul road salt I use to do that.
@@Peterbilt359 The guys hauling into me had an hour drive both to and back from the river terminal to pickup the fertilizer. Urea and dap both unload very good. We had to use the small door in the tail gate because we unloaded into a chain link conveyor that fed a bucket leg. The drivers would raise just enough to cause more product to roll down, then drop the trailer some. It was indeed a slow unload as to what you evidently had to do. When they hauled potash, it didn't flow as well, and sometimes would bridge up if there were too much fines. They just had to watch a little closer. Hats off to the men of Bell's Ready Mix that did such a wonderful job of keeping me running in season when rail service was not fast enough during the crunch. Good drivers are a very big plus for the customers they serve.
I own 5 tricks, possibly share yours?
@@Peterbilt359very unsafe to say you don’t have time to be level … not that much rushing in the world. You won’t have equipment to work with if you keep living by that statement
I've been running end dump now 4 months now I've never done this before I've got 18 years trucking all otr this is new to me I'm loving it as long as u pay attention to what your doing this won't happen
Hey boss .... I dumped the dirt.
how many loads have you tipped today? how come wee jimmy has done 6 loads and youv only done 4?
That's what real truckers pull behind em...takes true skill,flat ground and no high winds. My favorite trailer
I was told there is two kind of end dump drivers,ones that have been over,and ones that are going over.
Yup
Just like sailors those who've run aground and those who are going to.
Pulled end dumps for 20 years never came close to flopping one.
its true i pull a end dump im not stupid enough too over load or dump on uneven ground
@@donziperk lies
I drove tractor trailer end dumps for 2 years around Dallas and Ft Worth in the early 90's. Loved the job. Was fortunate to never turn one over. 28' and 32' aluminum frame less Mates, 36' 44 yard Full frame CPS and my favorite was a 37' Lufkin Featherlite. Hauling on a job site bringing in fill dirt. The spotter spotted three trucks side by side. I watched them domino over. Yep, shut that job down!!
They should have stopped when it lifted crooked
Yep.. when mine starts up if the front of that bed starts to twist , I put her back down
Yep
@BuckeyeFan-ty4vr
Exactly, some people don't have any sense! 🫣. I watch my leveler, and at the 1st hint I drop her and reposition.
Should have never started WITHOUT UNLOCKING the gate!!
That's going to leave a mark🤣🤣
I hauled end dumps for 5 years and never had a problem. Of course we sprayed our dumps with diesel back in the days so our load wouldn't stick especially in the winter.
All aggregate loads, you diesel them down?
We still do with cold mix and others.
Pretty much anything from the east coast to the Midwest uses end dumps. When you get out west is when you start seeing belly dumps and side dumps. Out there they have pretty much made everything to suite them. But not out east. They'll look at you a little weird if you pull up with a belly dump with anything but a grain hopper.
The building lots aren't set up like out west I guess. I've never seen anything but end dump from Maine to Florida
The biggest issue here was that the trailer is intended for light loads and it looks like it was loaded with coarse gravel
Talk about a Bad day at the office
Right?
you americans call things some weird fkn names. either way been using these for years. currently running a t909 with a quin dog with quicksilver floors. best invention ever.
That's why you hire smart truckdrivers that open the gate on flat ground
thats exactly why I dont pull one. Once upon a time I drove a garbage truck where it froze in the nose overnight and damn near tipped over. That was about the last time
The company I worked for had 10 end dumps one was a frame less it was the only one that flipped after that it was replaced regular end dump trailer
Love all the open gates first comments. Its a sticky load issue. We were on a job in the winter in below freezing temps and belly dumps were being loaded with wet pit run and the loads froze solid. Same issue here. Very wet load.
The full frame end dumps 32 feet or less in length are a lot more stable, but everybody wants that extra payload a long frameless trailer will give them….until you have to dump on a windy day, then all that extra profit is laying on the ground twisted and smashed to pieces.
I checked with shops before buying one, and they seem to get more frame type on springs in for rebuilding/ repair after incidents. Take care and good luck out there.
If you turn over a framed trailer your truck is going with it
I pull an end dump trailer in Minnesota. We have Federal Bridge laws which means the typical quad axle dump truck can haul about 17.5 to 18 tons and quint can haul between 19.5 to 20. I haul material for asphalt plants and get paid by weight. I can haul 26.25 with end dump.
Light weight! Up in Ontario you’ll see a tri axle dump truck over the scale with 22.5-23.5 t payload all day long.
@@Compression_Igniton Yep, I agree, but that's the maximum allowed by law. If you go over and are caught, the fines are SIGNIFICANT!! In a Federal Bridge Law State, the maximum weight of a triaxle is 57,000 lbs, a quad is 63,000 and a quint axle is 69,000. For a semi truck is 80,000 lbs. I have an overweight permit and can run 84,000 lbs for a maximum net payload of about 27.5 tons.
@@Compression_Igniton Those numbers are GROSS maximum weight, NOT payload.
Load for a quarry in the KC area and depending where the truck is going load limits for tri range from 14.5 tons to 30 tons. Have a large end dump who comes in that we routinely load around 56 ton. Most end dump drivers tell use how they like their load stacked in their trailers. Most like it weighted to the rear some to the front.
The video description says can't haul as much? The point is end dumps generally can haul more than a standard dump truck, can carry more weight and dump faster. They all have their place, but yes end dumps can be the most dangerous compared to dump trucks or bellies.
There is nothing wrong with end dumps. Operator has check out during dumping and dumping is a critical operation.
Don’t blame the driver so quick I have operated frameless dumps he could have blown airbag maybe the asphalt giveaway or something broke lotta possibilities
All we use in Aus are end dumps.
Some mines have side tippers, especially out west but yeah mostly
It looked like the truck was on level ground but the trailer was way overloaded! I pull end dumps and highsides in California. We don't have combinations like Dauminique and are limited 80,000lbs so we bridged the gap between a super and a transfer.
Be on level ground is number one and most important rule in my opinion. Though I have seen some end dumps tip on level ground.
Probably very windy day, even if it is level
@angelmunoz3462 could have been a flat tire to. That's why I check my tires before dumping. Also a vital component may have failed to due to improper maintenance.
Have to keep that trailer level.
We had 4 or 5 at my work and we got rid of all of them except 1 and its just used around the pit. I always loved when it would be loaded and up in the air and coming down the filter check relief valve would fail and the threads and filter would get ripped off and down she comes and out comes 20-30 gallons of hyd fluid. Easy to work on though.
There's got a be at least fifty ton in that box
Yeah it looks way over loaded
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver I used to tow a Burrell bin lifts up on its back axle,I used to go home with nightmares all the time.
Check tire pressure, Check suface level, Check springs , make sure trailer is clean after every delivery no material sticking to the trailer floor, If possible order custom trailer with front end of trailer 4-6'' narrow than rear end. fully trained driver can help a lot
Too high and too much tonnage
Yup
May have been a good idea to Open Doors before lifting Box??
It open
Way to Go..perfect
Looks good to me! As intended.
How long is that trailer
I pulled one for many years never had a problem.
Don't load it all in the nose , don't use material trailer for crap like that. Use a 1/4 frame barrel bed . And learn how to operate it right.
Love the song with this😂😂😂
I rode one over in the late 80's. Load of dirt was heavy and stuck; it was a wild ride. It helps to have a good single point suspension like a Neway. Air rides are horrible, I'd never buy air ride for construction use
Center of gravity...🤣
Gotta dump them bags driver!!!😂
It’s awesome when that happens it’s very exciting
Tail gate is closed, wtf were you expecting to happend.
Where did the dirt on the ground come from then?
Flowboy trailers are the only way to go! I drove for a big asphalt paving company in VT and NH and safely hauled asphalt and aggregates and sand. And you didn't have to be sitting level or if the wind was blowing!
Gotta be level, I never had a frameless my trailer was from the early 60s and my truck was a 68....had a nice frame on it but I still made sure I was level and wouldn't raise this high unless I was on pavement ....call me cautious but that was 1995 and all of our stuff was repaired with farmers wire....
Ive never ran dump trailers, only trucks but a box vibrator has helped me out in similar situations. Along with some adaptation to the situation.
I've pulled framed dumps and frameless dumps for 20yrs and one thing you better do is look in your mirror constantly, if that trl doesn't look straight going up STOP and lower it. Reposition if you have to, also make sure your tires are properly inflated a blowout can turn a 15 minute job into a 3 or more hour recovery. Never get in a hurry and pay attention to what you are doing.
We used to get these trailers coming in to dump, the guy that usually came in said he would soak the bottom down with diesel before he got loaded up so no material sticks to the bottom, also would definitely make sure he’s on flat ground. He never tipped one, but we did see a couple other guys tip them because they didn’t use right precautions
Exactly this is not alowed here anymore.
I used to pull a frameless aluminum dump. From what I remember it was one of lightest dump trailers out, which means it could carry the most product. Also, I've never flipped one, but I've had my butt puckering a few times due to how much they sway when the load doesn't come out all at once...
I did end dumps for 5 years. Its perfectly safe as long as youre level and pay attentio.
When you have started tipping you never stop.
I am in the farming and never rolled anything like that. Yet. My stuff flows easily, so it is not that easy to flip. You just do not max out your ram early, when there is still lots of heavy stuff in front.
How how you combat the risk dumping less cooperating stuff?
There is a lot more going on with that trailer I’ve been running end dump for years something is up with that trailer other than it looked like the gate wasn’t unlocked until it fell over but it could of had a bent arms or the ram but they don’t just lean like that for no reason
He's got it now
The way I've seen it is they are supposed to pull forwad as soon as the dump box is all the way up. It does look like they are in an enclosed area. They probably could have pulled forward up to the fence then lowered the dump box half empty and drove to a new spot and raised and dumped the second half. There is a chance that it could also have been managers orders in a complex situation. The way the back gate hinges on the top back corner doesn't allow the whole thing to empty at once without pulling forward.
How do you not see this coming? reposition the truck?
They are a very easy trailer to use I have a demolition trailer and I have no problem with it
Seen this happen to a driver over loaded with hurricane debris. He was on his fone & not paying attention. How a driver doesn't see or even feel the trailer leaning I will never understand.
We use them for road building materials. However, either as a semi-circular steel or square in aluminum and then not such high ones. We have a moving floor for wood chips.
The steel troughs are actually quite solid and nothing rarely sticks, the aluminum troughs are worse for dirt. But they are good for asphalt because they are thermally insulated. These high hollows are actually not suitable for dirt and are very unstable.
I hauled wood chips from woods to canton NC. They had a huge lift that would pick whole truck up. We used dry vans with wire doors no roof.
I overload mine every day of the week grossing 108k with fill dirt and have never had an issue. Dump trucks in my area don't even want to weigh 75k gross. Dump wagon is the way to go!
End dumps max at 80,000 gvw here. Truck and trailer dump trucks are 105,500.
@@DauminiqueTheDumpTruckDriver I mean my gross is only around 76k and there's no way a dump truck can touch what I haul bc they don't have the space. I'm just confused as to what your calling a truck and trailer vs end dump. And where is it that you are hauling?
Brilliant
Makes sense
If you don't know how to use the equipment it's definitely a good idea to not use it. I'm glad you guys understand your limitations and don't put other people on danger.
Only 2 types of end dump drivers. Ones who have dumped one over and ones who will dump one over.
Definitely looks overloaded
As a dump truck driver i can tell you that happened to him becouse he wanted too if you feel then trailer leaning to one side you drop it down as soon as you feel it abs see it . If your load is not properly loaded you can definitely feel it to and see it . What happend to some people is that they start raising the bucket while looking and something else, phone ,paperwork, or what ever else . This is the part that requires all your attention, 1 sec can make the difference between saving the truck or this. Im not saying every accident is the driver fault not at all but some driver are not as careful.
I pulled frameless dumps for ten years and never rolled over.
I hauled everything from steel to asphalt to concrete in the demolition field. We had cattle gates and this trailer appears to have a lift gate or they forgot to open the back door.
Side dump supremacy! End dumps ate for slick things like fresh apple pumice
This can happen with a regular dump truck too tho. My old man was a dump truck driver Owner op for about 10 years. 1st rule of dumpin is make sure youre on level ground.
We had one go over in our yard once with 43tone on.
I hate it when that happens. That’s exactly why I won’t pull an end dump trailer.
It’s sketchy
I pulled end dumps for 7 year + been driving 39 , we call them frameless but u have to use commons sense b on level ground to dump them all, u dam sure better b paying attention, hey y’all a great day 😊
I feel like if he let it down another four or five feet, he might have saved it.
Is that so? Depends on the regulations. We are allowed a maximum of 40t here. Semi weighs 12t, a trailer combination 16t and consumes 6l/100km more. As a compromise we have 4x4 semis.
I don't know what his problem was, but these trailers usually have air suspension with a tipper lowering so that they stand more solidly. These large-capacity troughs are problematic if the load doesn't slide. I've seen this a few times in life.
Perfect song choice! I have no comment about that trailer going up and over because everyone else hit all the proper reasons for this failure.
Looks like myself after a hard days work at 65 !
Its not the end dump...its the driver...or should I say lack of !!
You should always know your load and how it was loaded before you run a dump trailer it is an art to running one of those I used to do things with those trailers that would scare the average person
Been using end dumps for years. Never laid one over. Have had them dancing but staid upright
AIN'T leveled and looks like He Forgot to open the TALE GATE!" THAT'S 👎BADD on Concrete Asphalt&?10-4!"
My father had that happen to him probably 25 years ago now in a 359 with a dump trailer totaled the trailer but the truck dident roll so insurance didn’t total it but it still bent the frame ripped air lines and poped some of the tires and bent the rims