What Caused Everything? | Kelly - Iran | Atheist Experience 23.34
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- The Atheist Experience 23.34 for August 18, 2019 with Matt Dillahunty & Don Baker.
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Matt is so much calmer and more agreeable when the callers aren't constantly interrupting him, haha
Respect breeds respect. If you are having a discussion always let the other person have their say. Respect is earned this way and even if you disagree you'll end up with a good discussion and mutual respect (for the most part, not always).
It's super rare to see a caller who isn't trying to listen with their mouth
that's odd, i always thought the caller is disrespected n interrupted more. but i haven't studied all his vids carefully so i dunno for sure.
@@michaelmay5453 naw, i noticed how much u agree or are agreeable seems to matter more.
kinda like how, how good looking u are matters more than your personality in dating.
in both of the above cases, "The Halo Effect" kicks in. it's just human nature, n modern society is full of shallow, arrogant, selfish people (there are exceptions to everything i said though).
click my sub/bell icons for future vids on all this, n comment on my channel if u want me to see your reply.
@@airplayrule Well, thanks for calling me beautiful I guess.
I kind of hate incels/redpillers/blackpillers/MGTOW's though so I won't support your channel.
“I rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned “ Richard Feynman.
dellhpfree isnt it atheist that have the disbelief unwillilg or unable to believe something is true
@@jimtommy686 haha!
There are many answers to be had, but you won't seek Christ for truth as long as you regard Him a liar
@@jimtommy686 If there is not sufficient evidence to believe in a god, I will not believe. I have not been presented sufficient evidence, therefore I do not believe. If I were presented sufficient evidence, I will believe.
@@cousmaster Can you demonstrate any of that?
If you pretend to have the answer you stop looking for the answer and you admire the world in ignorance forever--Matt Dillahunty.
@@tylerb9877 got any evidence of god?
Tyler B “I know God and/or JC exist, he’s my particular cultural and geographic version, I know Heaven and Hell exist without actually having a shred of evidence to support those assertions.” - Christians
I believe Matt said "mire" not "admire"
@@tylerb9877
While that would not be a good reason to think it is true, at the same time... it _probably_ would still be true. Because if the majority of "mainstream" scientists (whatever mainstream means in this context) believe something is true, they likely believe it because that is what the evidence heavily suggests.
@@tylerb9877 So a fallacy is a fallacy no matter your position. Just saying that it is the number of scientists or even that they are scientists that makes it true would be incorrect. Now if you are looking at scientists looking at the information within their field and coming to a consensus based on evidence that is an entirely different thing.
Caller: 1+1 = 3!
Matt: 1+1 = 2!
Caller: Exactly!
@@tylerb9877 don't understand?
@@tylerb9877 Do you barely try because you know you'll fail or is this garbage really the best you can do?
Atheism is like someone not believing in things they have no evidence for
@THE PEOPLE SING wrong mate
You can have feelings without being delusionnal, you know...
What a great call. Always makes me so happy to hear people actually listening and taking into consideration what's being said, instead of waiting to bring up their next point. Good luck Kelly.
So very true! Well said!!!
@@MrPliker thx :)
I loved this call. The caller was honest and I applaud the respect Matt and Don handled this sensitive topic.
The caller wasn't honest. They were as disingenuous and dissembling as the usual theist caller.
@@ronmatthews1738 I forgot to put in my opinion.
@@Bajan0taku Not half through yet, but I would agree with you on the basis of what I've heard so far.
I'm afraid Ron underestimates how disingenuous the usual theist callers are.
@@ronmatthews1738 "Exactly."
The caller was either incredibly dishonest or was incredibly naive. The caller posited that Iran is OK with transgenders “because” of Islam. Neither element in his/her premise is even remotely true.
Well done Matt, an inspiring, heartfelt, and HUMAN response!
The universe does not owe any answers. We as humans may look for answers but to make up stuff because we do not know is depressing
DrJames Powers Spiritual research is not going to get you closer to the christian god if you don’t even believe in his existence. Spiritual research can lead you to any god or none at all. What is your actual evidence for the existence of YOUR god?
DrJames Powers We don’t know how life began but we do know how it evolved to different species. To say that life was perfectly designed is just wrong. I could point out many flaws, but I’ll give you one example... If you look at the anatomy of giraffes for example, there is an important nerve that runs from the brain, all the way down its neck, circles around vital organs, only to go back up its neck to a certain organ in its head. This nerve serves no purpose to his neck, or the vital organs its circled around. This is clearly a weakness for the animal and a flaw that can only be explained through evolution...
@DrJames Powers Your copypasta never provides any true or useful answers, Dr. Jimmy. We've already established that numerous times. Remember when we talked about the "mud puddle" analogy and how that completely wrecks your anthropocentric and fine-tuning arguments for god(s)? Perhaps you should find something more worthwhile to do with your time.
DrJames Powers Quoting the Bible is not going to prove the existence of your god, the bible makes the claim, the claim cannot be evidence by definition. That is circular reasoning. The bible CLAIMS god created the earth and the bible CLAIMS Jesus existed and rose from the dead. The bible is mot evidence.
Also, misinterpreting scientific facts, theories and scientists’ quotes is not going to help your case. The truth is, we simply don’t know what caused the big bang, we don’t know how matter came into being, we don’t know what was before the big bang. We can’t even assert there was nothing before the big bang as we have no way of knowing what came before, but we also dont even know if absolutely nothing is possible in the first place. It’s not like scientists can measure or test on “nothing”. You simply CANNOT assert that a god did it because science has not found an answer for it YET. Reinterpreting the bible to make it fit within science or misinterpreting science to make it fit within your religion is wrong.
Be humble enough to admit that you and that bible of yours do not have all the answerd.
My father worshipped a false idol, so I’m doomed no matter what according to the bibles third commandment
I have watched many Athiest Experience episodes, and that was hands-down the best one yet.
My fav was the call from Manda in 22.09
27.45
The way Matt explains his position and makes clear his support, empathy and.. just love for another human being.. nearly had me in tears.
Go Matt. You can be incredible sometimes.
"I am a humanist.
I'm a skeptic and I'm an atheist.
Atheist is the least important part, because if there's ever evidence of God, that goes away, but the skepticism and humanism don't"
I relate to this statement. Religion can be such a barrier in life.
Such a deeply moving conversation. Thank you for sharing.
This has been my favotite video yet.
It has arguments, the demonstration of fallacies, the true realization and openness from the caller AND a lovely message at the end.
Just loved it.
Just watched this vid again and I applaud Matt for his classy responses and his human touch on this subject and to this person who called in. Much respect !!!
Mutual respect is a beautiful thing
I love how content and happy Don sounds when Matt says he’ll show him a magic trick later
Haha aww. Little Don, excited about magic tricks. He's the best.
I've seen Matt do magic tricks. It's fun. I'm well older than Don.
I too would be like a kid in a Cindy story if Matt shows me a magic trick!!!
Candy
Don is one of my favorites. His laugh is infectious.
Starting around the 13-14 minute mark Matt drops one of his best hammer blows I have ever heard on this show. When he begins to talk about how he gets comfortable with not knowing.
Jebuslives
Hear! Hear!
Why is I don't know so impossible to accept?
We are knowers that don't know.
Agreeeeeeee!!
James Richard Wiley Because we are incredibly curious beings who naturally like to solve problems & find answers. And our origin is the biggest mystery.
@@JamesRichardWiley It's probably the fear of the unknown. For some people it can be paralyzing, just as some people are sensitive to addiction and some are not.
If there's anything I've learned from the thousands of (mostly just reworded) arguments from theists and otherwise superstitious people it's that all of their arguments, all though they're (re-)packaged in many different logical fallacies to (sometimes) hide the true motives for and nature of the arguments, boil down to arguments from ignorance and/or wishful thinking. And when non theists still argue for maintaining and/or protecting religion, the argument is always an appeal to emotion where fear of chaos is the main (unproven) theme. Some apologists don't even try to hide it, like John Lennox (who is a christian theist) and Jordan Peterson (who is just a fearful idiot).
And then there are those who want to believe for the sake of divine vengeance, which they call justice.
So I think that basically fear of not knowing, fear of an uncertain future, fear of having to deal with people possibly getting away with crimes, etc. are the main reasons why people believe in the supernatural to begin with.
Think about this: if you are able to accept any situation, regardless of how shit it is, and are simply prepared to deal with it, perhaps with the help of others, would you pray for a god to help or hope for a better afterlife where the 'wicked' are punished? That's why I think that the inability to do this leads to superstition. Probably caused by many complex causes, such as upbringing, trauma, genes, combinations of those and many other causes.
I've watched a lot of clips with callers already. This one is really a great one, I love the way the debate went, the level of respect, the final words of Matt.
Amazingly inspiring.
After watching countless episodes of the Atheist Experience, I’ve concluded that 3 main groups of people exist
1. People who were spared from religious brainwashing as children and see reality for what it is. They tend to use objectivity and logical reasoning to make sense of the world.
2. The people who were emotionally abused and deceived by religion but have the mental capacity to overcome it. They are also able to use objectivity and logical reasoning to make sense of the world.
3. The people who were or are emotionally abused and deceived by religion but who do not have the mental capacity (this is clearly obvious listening to them on your show) to be objective and rational to overcome their religiously induced fears and misguided views.
Sadly it is the latter that is clearly the largest group. But I’m optimistic as I believe that young people’s access to the internet, like shows such as this, may counteract the bullshit that they are being fed by religion.
Thank you for being part of the solution guys.
Word....
Atheism is the fastest growing belief outside the middle east. Soon we will be the majority.
It is a pleasure to hear a discussion with someone who wishes to debate rather than just proselytise. I get the impression that Kelly may actually think about the issues raised. Her conclusions may remain rooted in her faith, but thinking is the first step to original ideas and individual solutions.
Kelly is a man btw
Yeah but if 22 equals 7 then 56 is an octopus so therefore God did it
That's the most convincing argument I've seen so far.
FSM kind of looks like an octopus so you're half right.
Yay
That's all well and good but if I can't divorce my wife I am going to just copy your religion and included divorce.
Oh, and make myself pope of said new religion.
By far, one of the most captivating and interesting uses of any 36 minute segments of my life!!!!!
Bravo! Matt, Don (Dan, haha) & Kelly!!!
Time not spent, but invested!!
100% agree.. This call was so moving on so many levels! The way Matt words what i have always wanted to say but couldnt find the right words gave me chills man.. This convo has changed me in a way because it lets me know im by no meana alone on these thoughts!
Time spent investing but time gives no returns.
@@mastersinr The point if I'm not mistaken is that the knowledge and understanding gained with the investment of time can give returns.
It was pretty boring, but it made me wish all callers were like Kelly: humble, open, and honest.
Poor guy, he seems so gentle. The issues he faces are SO huge. not fair. My best wishes...
We don’t call ourselves “ guy “
@@aemiliadelroba4022 maybe he does? When you say 'we' who are you speaking for?
"While it might be a COMFORTING ignorant lie it's still a comforting ignorant LIE".
Yo Matt out here spittin' bars.
What sort of god do we want ?
Well, he must be powerful (to beat our enemies). He must love us (so he doesn't beat us)
And invisible (so no damn scientist can find him) and timeless (because he invented time).
Yep. That's all. Oh, I forgot, he needs money (for the pastor/priesr/vicar/imam/? )
You forgot about the fairy tale ending with it being able to grant immortality to a once mortal being and thereby allow them to live in a fantasy land with all their past loved ones. It's like an assurance plan sold on the hope of a dream, but without the foundational evidence to support the plan.
@@ministryofarguments3525
No, that's all too complicated for me.
Keep it simple.
@Gyoto Azimoto So your God is you by your own admission. Your ego personified or psychological make up.
@@ministryofarguments3525 Just like you, stupid! Hey, how bout that?
Seems like God is always short of cash.
Good segment. Well done. All three of you. Don, Matt, and Kelly. Good conversation. Thumbs up big time.
I love this debate style when mats able to keep it cool calm and collected it’s a lot more easy to listen to from both perspectives and be open minded to the possibility that you may learn something from each other instead of each side being dead set against by the end of this they’re going to prove that they are right
Kelly is one of those callers who make your heart sink. I can feel the pain in her voice. (I'll say her, don't know if she's transitioning from male to female or vice versa) She wants to hang on to religion in her heart, but you can hear that cognitive dissonance. Logically she knows the things Matt says are right and she just needs that support. I hope she kept listening to Matt and others in the atheist community who are just as equally accepting, supportive and compassionate. She'll get there.
You had to inject this gender bullshit did you? 🤮
This has been the best interaction on this channel so far. A constructive two way conversation. Now, that's a rarity. Well done on both sides 👏👏👏
Thank you, Matt and Dan, for supporting this caller's identity experience. This was a great exchange. Good luck to you, Kelly.
Lightning doesn't come from Thor???
Well then..explain who makes the thunder if it is not Thor.
Lightning from Zeus, thunder from Thor. Obviously.
No, Captain America was able to wield Mjölnir and now can summon lightning
Thor is a drunken slayer of innocent giants who deserves only death.
I am reading this on Thorsday, so I get a kick out of this comment
I hope this comment links to the call that I listened to, because that was the best conversation that I have heard on your show. Matt made good points but showed tons of empathy for the transitioning person from Iran. Great conversation.
"God doesn't love, he doesn't have emotions the same way humans do."
That's something I didn't see coming. Thought all of the Big 3 saw God as a force of love. This is actually interesting.
I'm pretty sure in Islam, God is explicitly considered the master of humanity and us his property/slaves. After all, Islam the word roughly translates to "submission".
Also in Judaism God is not loving nor merciful, he is (allegedly) just. Christians are the ones who came up with the "God is love and all loving" thing (or at least they copied it from somewhere else).
The Quran is full of verses that says this would anger God, that would pleases, God doesn't like this, God loves this. One of his many names is the Angry, the Vengeful, the Endearing, etc.. all of these are human emotions.
The caller is astonishing, 😃
She has some inner knowledge.
I’m prouder of her being an Iranian, and being a transgender ⚧.
❤️❤️❤️
It’s funny how so many of the same people who say we can’t know anything about god keep trying to tell us exactly how god is.😂
Really appreciated the caller allowing Matt to provide his explanation and be willing to acknowledge (intellectually honest) when a point is made and there is not good rebuttal or at very least willing to ponder on it. Also good for you Matt recognizing her for her struggle to reach her truth from the beliefs she was born into.
Kelly is a man
This was a refreshing conversation. I enjoyed the mutual respect and readiness to change one's views.
Wow, that was a really interesting one... Some of Matt's arguments towards the end could and should be carved to stone...
Yes, and we could take like 10 of them and carve them on two stone tablets and Matt could hand them to us from a mountain...
I call dibs on breaking the first set.
Best episode ever Matt, you really dished it out.
What a nice call. Usually it's the people who start opening their eyes or the co-host saying something that gives me goose bumps. This time Matt did the job. Well played.
I don't know what caused everything, but I wish it hadn't.
I sometimes wish that, as well. Emphasis on "sometimes".
Casually going around just causing everything like we all wanted it
I, for one, am glad it did. Set of possible people and all of that.
Or just maybe...less.
" exactly..."
13:11 - Countless times, Matt has explained the importance of accepting that there are some things we just don't know, but this has to be one of his best, clearest explanations.
Scientist: There are questions we cannot answer yet, but we're working on them.
Christian: There are questions we cannot answer, therefore Jesus died for our sins.
Earl of Doncaster you are twisting and manipulating Christianity
@@dynis15 Hardly. I'm just pointing out the egregious non-sequitur used by Christian apologists.
@@dynis15 That sounds like your cult to me.
@Joshua Opell Science is the best method we have found thus far to determine what is true. What other methods are there?
@Joshua Opell I repeat my question: Other that science, what other methods of finding stuff out are there?
This was one of the best exchanges I’ve ever seen on AXP. These are the most persuasive arguments that really impact people. He seldom gets here because the callers usually annoy him too much and he lacks the ability or availability to speak on these topics. Amazing.
He rarely gets here because the theists aren’t anywhere as respectful and skeptical and courageous as Kelly!!!
This call started off a little rocky, But Kelly really showed themselves to be a listener in the end. I think they are genuinely going to reflect on this call, I am so pleased to have watched this whole video. Matt and Don were so courteous and yet still took Kelly to task for making illogical and/or irrational things that weren't supported by evidence. I love how Matt basically just asked questions of the caller, and you could tell when Kelly realized they had no answer or didn't have good reasons for their answer, you can just tell they were honestly starting to question themselves and their faith. Just A+ conversation and discussion overall.
Your respect ✊ did not go unnoticed. Thanks for sharing your thoughts so honorably. I’m hoping they have read these comments ❤️😀
Congratulations Matt, this was THE BEST answer I have heard yet!! Great job to you and the hole team!!Best regards!
We're 0.00000000000001% of the universe but we love to think we have it all figured out
Your percentage is about a couple thousand orders of magnitude too large.
Yeah and 99.99999999999(99999999999999999999% of the universe is hostile to us.
@@imonlyheretoleavecomments6184 your estimation is way too optimistic.
Yes, I often laugh to myself over that one.
Thank you, you logical, reasonable and rational bastards ;)
Best call and response I think I've heard on this channel so far. Your a champ Matt !
It was not easy to come out as an Ex- Muslim and a transgender ⚧ myself,
To face the truth, to b able to live “ like that “ ( no God ) ,
It takes a fearless person ,but we can do it .
You are not alone . ❤️❤️❤️
“It takes a fearless person.”
No, it just takes a person who is willing to face their fears.👍
I went to Airborne School in the Army. The first day they asked who was afraid of heights. 6 of us raised our hands out of 120. In the next few days, it looked like everybody had a fear of heights.😜
The most powerful thing in your life is believing in yourself. No reason to follow.
Yet you are here listening to someone else.
@@keithherring7677 listening, not worshiping.
@@englemint
Listening leads to believing and believing is following.
@Jimbus Rift
Everyone believes someone.
@@keithherring7677 I often listen to the Beatles.
« How can you live with that? »
Not by lying to myself...
Hello from Adelaide South Australia wow Matt you never fail to amaze me you always know the best way to handle these conversations. I've been an atheist all my life and people like you give me real hope for the future of man kind. Keep up the great work mate you are really making a difference.👍
I like when Matt was explaining why he's able to live without accepting a potentially fallacious explanation. He seemed to get a little nicer.
Matt is always nice to honest callers
Good point and well made Matt!
I worked with 3 Iranian men who escaped the 1st Ayatollah take over back in the 1980's. One was definitely an atheist and the other two were not practicing Islam. The youngest was supposed to be coming for University and when he was at the airport, his father gave him a lot of money and told him not to come back to help him escape. He told me how strict religion was forced on the people and the women had to start wearing the veil again, etc... I am currentlu worried that our US government wants to force Christian Beliefs/Laws as the official religion of the US. Too bad this person is probably trapped in Iran but she is thinking. Good discussion.
Wow. I have watched so many hours of The Atheist Experience videos, but this one is probably the best and most profound. Well done Matt, Don, and especially Kelly from Iran.
They could replace the song with Don laughing for the show's intro.
This^^^^^^^^^^^
Somebody start a petition for it to be randomly used from time to time as the intro.
Not everything requires a "petition", Karen.
I love how Don almost always has an facial expression of disgust when the callers present their cases
I'm a humanist, I'm a skeptic, I'm an atheist... If evidence of a god ever appears, the atheist disappears, the other two remain... paraphrasing of course, but probably the most important part of this video.
I’ll second the most important claim
I'm growing tired of listening to the endless parade of callers that try to defend an invisible man that is all powerful and can wipe us out any time he feels the urge.
One of the best rants Matt has ever done and I don't mean rant as a negative thing but him just pouring his heart out about the beginning of the universe lying to ourselves as people are arrogant as people and not knowing is brilliant. Very well done
All credit to the caller, who was honest and respectful, and to Matt for dialing things down a little in response. Also, as much as one can criticise Iran for its policies on any number of issues, it's surprisingly tolerant of trans people - they've been officially recognised since the 1980s (not long after the revolution), and Iran now has the second largest number of sex reassignment operations in the world (behind Thailand), and the government provides public funding for it. That said, I can accept much of what Matt says about sex reassignment not being a thing centuries ago, and I can add that there are reports that Iran's persecution of gay men leads many to sex reassignment when it's unsuitable for them.
Kelly seems like a beautiful soul. I hope Kelly finds peace.
I love how Don is just sitting there watching Matt hahahaha
Dillahunty is a great philosopher with an honest perspective!
Not gonna lie, I am still recovering from the shock of knowing Matt is prepared to kill Don over a f***ing die roll... wtf?
“It is better to offer no excuse than a bad one.”
― George Washington
I like the new thumbnails, helps catch peoples attention. Keep it up!
It never ceases to amaze me how many people get stopped cold by "How do you know your version isn't the wrong one and they have the right one?"
How is this not the 1st question anyone asks when giving ANY thought to their religion.
The ending was 🥶🔥🔥🔥🔥
That was good to hear an open and honest conversation between two honest people
From Iran! Damn, I should call in!
Right? I was expecting more of a lahje lol
oh yeah .. now the moron religious government will try to get her killed.
Very insightful stuff Matt, thank you :)
Really surprised matt didnt just say "and what if you were born gay?"
Matt was on absolute top form here, really really good.
When will theists realise the internet is where religions come to die?
Let's hope never! Long live the internet!
The nicest I've ever seen Matt
I think Kelly was trying to get to the No Watchmaker argument. The whol intelligent design think.
Shockingly true on all counts. Thanks
I wish I could give 10 thumbs up for Matt!! Great explanation for why to say I don't know!
I was happy with the conversation the way it is and that "Kelly" was trying to understand but you are right. It shoud have been stated. It is a total bullshit that Quran /Islam allows gender transitioning. it's just a coincidence that happenned in Iran; just because one person at the early stage of so-called Iranian Revolution convinced just one person, Khomeini about it and he just allowed it by himself as a dictorial leader. There has never been an intellectual debate among shia clerics about it. Otherwise trasgenders would have been killed just like gay men in Iran today.. There is no other Muslim country in the world that allows transitioning, other than constitutionally secular Turkey as far as I know. She's just pretending how accepting her faith is in a country where women cannot even go out without a silly scarf... If I had been born as man, why would I even transition into a woman in such a shity society, to begin with?... I am from Istanbul by the way
Matt eloquent as ever, my hat is off to you sir!
“I’m a Humanist, a skeptic, and and atheist. If there is ever any evidence for God that’s the part that goes away, and the others don’t” - Matt
Incredibly well said. I totally agree that irrespective of the God question we all need to be good to one another and think critically and skeptically!
I found this one of the best calls.. It shows how similar Islam is to Christianity. They both have the same gaffles with other versions. And I found the guest refreshing. The guest was receptive and listed more than 5 minutes in complete silence and tried to absorb the knowledge that was exhuming instead of trying to talk. This is how you can come to an honest understanding or at least can agree to dissagree. At no point was there manipulation tactics of not trying to answer a question or purposefully misunderstanding things. Yeah refreshing it was, an actual conversation and progress.
You have one guy 1300 years ago who proclaimed he was having secret conversations with an archangel and the archangel was relaying the words of God. The alleged messages were in no way profound and there were no witnesses to any of these meetings and yet many centuries later this scenario is accepted by millions almost without question.
if you change the timeline and the names you can say the same thing about every religion
Just for the record, there are 1.8 billion Muslims so it is still millions, with an "M". And Islam is the largest religion that has one person at its inception. Mormonism is very much the same (Joseph Smith) but has a much smaller following.
@Pichkalu Pappita I wrote "1.8 million" and I corrected it to "1.8 billion". Hence the "(edited)". Christianity has Jesus as the central person. But Jesus was not the person who conceived the specific religion of Christianity. That came after his death. Mormonism has Joseph Smith as its founder despite Jesus being the religion's central person.
@@timjansen7694 abraham was by himself and subsequently so was moses
@@oreneshel578 I don't know what you're referring to. Moses and Abraham are mythical characters. Muhammad is historical.
One of the best shows and Matt's comments were spot on.
I always liked George Carlin’s brand of humor: smart AND funny. I think he was a brilliant person, and one hilarious comedian. I miss his presence, and I sure would have liked to hear anything he might have to say about today’s headlines. I especially enjoyed some of his comments about religion - he was so right about so many things, in my opinion. I don’t know if he was a true scholar of any particular ideology, but even if he was, I think he based his funniest bits and routines on the hypocrisy and fallacious reasoning that is so prevalent in all organized religion.
“Religion - religion, at best - at BEST - is like a lift in your shoe. If you need it for a while, and it makes you walk straight and feel better - fine. But you don’t need it forever, or you can become permanently disabled. Religion is like a lift in the shoe, and I say just don’t ask me to wear your shoes. And let’s not go down and nail lifts onto the natives’ feet.”
-George Carlin, SNL, 1975
Amen, George - you are sorely missed. Because the freak show is standing room only, now - and there’s a mosh pit where the front row used to be. He seemed to have an innate sense of wit, and was perhaps the cleverest wordsmith of our time.
If you’re born in America, do you get a front row seat to the freak show?
DrJames Powers
Lighten up, Doc. Did you hear the one about the agnostic dyslexic insomniac?
He was up all night wondering if there really is a dog.
@DrJames Powers Do you imagine yourself in a fantasy land heaven with all your loved ones there to greet you? You deny your own mortality and the mortality others that came before you in time when do that sort of thing. How sad your life must really be for you to be so desperate in your belief if so.
This is the first I've seen matt comforting for the damage caused
How can God create emotions w/o having experienced them?
Around 14:00 great Matt rant about the value of I don't know...vs pretending to know. Response to "how can you live without knowing?"
There was a rubrix cube on the shelf behind Don. Would have made a good dice substitute. Phone worked though. Good call. All the best Kelly.
Rubix
It's not the seekers after truth you have to watch out for. It's the finders.
Indeed. For what they find does not actually exist yet they will still gladly ruin you based upon what they haven't really found.
A good caller. A bit slow but can at least somewhat follow Matt.
I don't think she's slow at all. It's just hard waking up from a collective fantasy your entire culture fed you your entire life. She's from Iran, I bet it isn't easy to question the faith there.
Cani Terrae : what do you know about her faith ?
@DrJames Powers Could you tell me why you believe so?
@@mullm5375 Do you believe in extraterrestrials?
I wouldn't call her slow in the slightest. She is a reasonable person who just wanted to find a rational answer regarding her beliefs she was likely raised with. When confronted with rational answers regarding irrational assumptions and beliefs, she realized those were very valid answers from the start, but it also rattled her life long held beliefs.
Matt: "... so, that's evidence proving your argument is trash."
Kelly: "Exactly."
To know something is perfect requires a preexisting standard or template for comparison.
Gee, philosophers have been debating that topic for thousands of years. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
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@@chuckm1961 Nothing especially profound in that, but the trick comes in selecting the template and the question of whose judgement decides the question. This is where gawds are created and installed.
There is no such thing as perfection, unless you believe it to be perfect. That is the true answer.
@@ultrainstinctgoku2509 In that case, everything is perfect, as it is the exact representation of itself. The identity principle.... A = A.
@@kimweaver3323 If you believe everything to be perfect than it is, if not than it's not. It really comes down to your opinion of what perfect even is. There is no need to look for the information, this one is obvious my friend.
Don is always laughing and I'm here as well. Thanks for that!
I don't think Kelly know what "exactly" means.
There's a small voice in Kelly's head telling her that her religion is nonsense.
lewisner : I follow her religion ,why is it nonsense ?
@@paragonofvirtue270 For the same reasons which Matt outlined some of here. It is trying to apply 7th century morals and philosophy to the 21st century. But I know that nobody will ever convince you of that.
I don't blame her, Iranian religion education is put together so well, so smart , I wish I could show you the books I study at highschool. It starts early at age 7 and can trick your mind with the kind of literature they use. They are perfect frauds.
@@saraha6571 I was lucky in that my parents (in the UK) weren't atheists but they were hardly religious at all so we never went to church and I was pretty much allowed to make my own mind up. And our RE at school was very weak. When I realised Santa Claus wasn't real it took me like an hour to realise god wasn't real either and it was all just made up.
It was me.
DarkPrince Naw was a bad joke re: the video title
The fact that he had to say “sallah lah wa alaho wa Salam” after saying Mohamad shows the deeply ingrained indoctrination
Two bullets break a window................. One bullet breaks a window.......... WOW! SHAZZAM! ALLAH EXISTS!
“A problem that’s too vast for our limited minds” Albert Einstein
Here's the thing....
So basically...
In summation...
Probably one of my favorite callers of all time, honestly
God made man in his own image. God is a non-corporeal entity. So why does god have teeth, nipples, ears, hair, genitals ? I won’t labour the point but you get the idea. 🙄
The secret of course is that man made gods in their own image... :)
This was the best one on one on this show