This Is What Confuses Screenwriters The Most - Jill Chamberlain
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Her insights are some of the best you've ever had on this channel. The "situation but not a story" interview blew my mind
Totally agree. I started following her on social media. Very smart lady.
I agree. I liked what she said about how important a characters flaw is.
I've seen a couple videos in this series with Jill, and in this one, her clarification between the "setup want" and the character's greatest want has been the most helpful. Kind of made the rest of it click a little better.
Thanks Luke, we know a lot of people have asked us about Jill's full interview. We're doing our best to get there.
@@filmcourage I agree with Luke. Her clarification about the 2 wants really cemented in me how my character can go forward, and I truly believe that applying the info makes stories more interesting.
Jill Chamberlain is amazingly helpful and yes this installment about the 'set-up' want was deeply helpful! Like receiving a life lesson from a sage.
True.
Story = Irony. The one thing your character wants is not what they need. This throw away desire is what forces your character to see their need for change. Happy ending! 🤪
Perfectly put.
She is very helpful thanks for this!
I was really struggling with something and this has made it all unfold for me.
It's amazing to me how hard coded structure is within us. Stories without it just suck but we often don't know why (until now).
I'm on a Film Courage binge watch! Loving these Jill C vids, great insights. The interviewer is also a major part of the success of FC videos
Thank you, Peter! I appreciate your kind words. And second that with Jill. We are very fortunate to have spoken with her. :)
The set up want is clear to me now! 👍
My first or second draft are the best. Any re-writes after that usually mess them up. I write. I finish. I move on.
Wow, so much clarity.
loved watching these!! love the even deeper behind the scenes look.
Her advice in this video made much more sense to me
Thank you for having these tips on screenplay writing. Great information.
You're welcome Jody-Lynn, thanks for watching.
Are you confused by the "set-up" want?
I am confused. But not in a bad way -- in a way as in that was deep (especially Juno example).
Set-up want makes sense to me. It's the fuse to the firecracker, the first domino, the nudge on a ball at the top of a hill. If there is no firecracker, lighting the fuse ends in a fizzle. If there aren't a thousand other dominoes, the first domino just flops. If the ball is in Iowa, it rolls an inch and stops. ...Aaaand without the time loop, Phil (Bill Murray) has a crappy and forgettable day in a town he is quick to put in his rear view mirror.
not confused, but it makes no sense to me tbh
@@xChikyx my guess is that you're probably still confused then.
@@beebuzz959 no no you have it all wrong. He does not understand it, and yet he comprehends it all the same.
Have a story that you want to tell. A story that is important to you,, and means something. Decades ago, we had authors who wrote one or two stories that meant something to them. Then, with television, there is a huge demand for content. People became “ professional screenwriters”, having to crank out a story every few days. That is when quality drops when storytelling becomes McDonald’s rather than a restaurant. So, two basic approaches: have a story that is burning inside you for you to tell. Or, create a bunch of interesting characters and march them through various stories and adventures.
It's always great when a writer who no one has ever ever heard of, and probably no one ever will, makes a comment on TH-cam that they have the story figured out. Thanks guys and gals. ....robert, mechanical pants, gordan,.... etc
I sense bitterness. Keep at it, champ. You'll get there someday.
Thank you Jill!
Smart lady. I like her.
I have begun to think to compete in shorts instead of features.
Submit those ideas, to see first if there is a market? Time management.
Amazing information. Thank you!
3 basic stories. Man vs man, man vs nature, man vs himself. The best stories have combinations of all the basic three conflicts. Take Star Trek 2, Kirk vs Khan, Kirk vs old age and change and the loss that change brings, and Kirk learns how to give up his depression and reconnects with his captaincy and estranged son. Also, Kirk was always a cheater who cheated his way out of no-win scenarios. But at the end he has to accept loss and that all losses can’t not be escaped by means of cheating; everyone has has to pay the piper. Kirk initially talks about cheating his way out of a starfleet simulation test, he tricks/cheats Khan several times in the film, but at the end Kirk has to accept loss and death.
Great suggestions. So, how can you tell if your script is ready for feedback?
Half way through she talks about what the character wants and how it might not be what he gets or what sets things in motion. Could it be that its not another want like she suggests but maybe what he needs?
Most people ask for what they want not what they need.
I am confused about the source material that I am using to write my screenplay, because looks like will stay too long, Im still strugling to fix it
How are you doing now? Maybe it’s a series instead.
@@louierubio I fixed it
Ismael Judá Moraes Reis Dias awesome news! God Bless
@@louierubio Thanks! I finished the script with 140 pages, I wanted 160 in this one haha
Ismael Judá Moraes Reis Dias wow man congrats!
Nope, she explained very clearly....
Question: Suppose I wrote the screenplay "Doc Van Winkle." I could have a young doctor at the end of her residency, half-asleep on her feet, desperate for just a wink, and testing for chlamydia by inserting a long swab into some grungy, stinking, criminal-looking dude's pecker as he has a fit about how terrible it is. She mutters, "There's got to be a better way." The story continues as she's forced into a quadruple shift. When she finally gets home and gets to sleep -- after drinking wine she bought from a shifty Gypsy or some such -- she wakes up 100-years later, and the "better way" to do medicine turned out to be a hell that resulted from a long series of good decisions made with good intentions.
I have two set-up wants: Sleep and a better way to do medicine. Both of these blow up in her face -- ending act 1? I don't understand acts. But the rest of the movie then is her dealing with being a fish out of water, who is also a relic trying to bring humaneness back into medicine at the cost of efficiency -- and maybe even a little safety.
Does this accurately reflect Chamberlain's idea?
Thanks in advance ^_^
I enjoyed the Ron Howard commercial better.
Why does she have no IMDb writing credits? And she’s holding up blueprints for writing a film. This is exactly what’s wrong with film.
Her imdb has no relevance to the usefulness of the information she is sharing. What's important is the information. Is it presented in a way you understand and can apply to your own work in a meaningful way. What school, what credits, what name, what shiny thing impresses you is of no importance to whether or not the information being shared is useful. If you haven't figured this out yet, you are lost in the woods.
Curtis Thomson If she's so good, why doesn't she do it herself?
@@joelmacha2104 What Curtis said still applies; your hung up on the shiny things. Not everyone who can do something well can teach, and a great teacher doesn't have to be great at what they're teaching in order to convey it well to their students.
This fact in no way says she's good or bad at writing, just that it's irrelevant.
If you don't let yourself get over that hangup, then you're gonna get stuck and it'll only hurt you.
It's also a fact that you can have made zillions of dollars as a screenwriter without having any credits.
Beanie Green I actually agree, but it's a common argument. Advice from someone who has actually done it comes off as more valuable. The homeless guy down the street might have the same advice on banking as a millionaire, but I'm only going to trust one.
Okay, she's another classic version of 'So-called expert'. Giving advice to screenwriters when she's only has two produced shorts, back in 2001! 3rd credit is an acting one in '93. But, these folks think they can spew these advices to us, it's hard to take them seriously. I value 'Experts' who have worked consistently as a Screenwriter, has been in the trenches, can give valuable insight and advice! Take it with a grain of salt...
@Joshua William - Not one person, except these Master classes, Aaron Sorkin is great. But books, especially 'The Screenwriting Bible' by David Trottier.
She makes her money selling you re-hashed screenwriting advice that can be found online for free. What works for me is reading scripts, write shorts and join online communities for free feedback. These people just want your money.
Chaz Fatur It's a fantastic book!! I recommend to everyone. I'm just a dabbler, but it's taught me a lot
Her imdb has no relevance to the usefulness of the information she is sharing. What's important is the information. Is it presented in a way you understand and can apply to your own work in a meaningful way. What school, what credits, what name, what shiny thing impresses you is of no importance to whether or not the information being shared is useful. If you haven't figured this out yet, you are lost in the woods.
@@curtisthomson4209 Curtis, I think these other people who are collecting so negatively like this just don't understand things as well as you or I do. If it's important to them, they'll stick with it and learn. If not, I guess it weeds it out to make it easier for folks like you and me.
Movies today are really shitty. Some gems always emerge. What movies did she work on? I can't trust some ones judgment if they worked on big budget films that stink. I looked at her IMBD. How do I know if she's one of the less talented successful people? I'll take her advice with a grain of salt. A sage? I dunno.
Just follow the white rabbit.
This thing that Phil's "set-up want" is to spend 24 hours in Punxsutawney just because he says so is kind of a stretch. That piece of dialogue is ironic, not literal. I'm not saying that structure doesn't matter or whatever, but this is ridiculous. If you look hard enough you can fit any structure theory in almost any movie.
Tootsie is a well constructed obvious, predictable piece of writing. No mystery to it. 8 minutes in you know where it's going. It is an over extended joke with predictable characters. "Witness" is a much better movie. It has a larger social context and though we know there will be a showdown, we have no idea how it will turn out.
You mean the old movie with Harrison Ford as a detective amongst the Amish? that's a mystery, and that's why it's not predictable. You're comparing two totally different genres. Tootsie is a rom-com, and it's a given that they always get together in the end. whether you like it or not, the reason people watch movies like that is they find the fun in seeing how the two people get together in the end, and watching that journey. They like to watch them fall in love.
also, I'm sure she could take witness and do some examples from that as well, but she really likes the example of Tootsie because it helps her to explain it in a much easier way. Most people seem to understand it better when she uses the Tootsie. Just because you don't like that movie doesn't mean there's not a lesson in it. don't hurt yourself by not letting yourself understand the valuable information she is giving you just because you don't like that particular movie. Look at her book, she's got 30 other examples.
There's 2 things that really hurt a lot of movies in a fundamental way, and they are so basic but I see them overlooked so many times and the're the ones I dont wanna watch again. (1) No character developement at some point (usually the very begining) and (2) characters that didnt have to overcome something bigger than them. Without these 2 things you can never really care about them or anything they end up doing in the movie, so the movie always turns out really shit or at the very least dissapointing, despite whatever else it has going for it. But the ones that get those 2 things right are always rewatchable to me and these 2 things are are always really well implimented in every one of my favourite movies. Anyway my 2 cents.
First things first.. What have you done? Sorry. imdb shows very little in practical terms.
Her imdb has no relevance to the usefulness of the information she is sharing.