I love their advice about just writing an alternative plot point to see if it works, rather than just endlessly thinking about it. I tend to think and think and think, and never write. Perhaps if I just start writing more, and thinking less, I'll be able to think more clearly, and write a better story.
A tip Robert Rodriguez has always given on writing and creating, do not wait to be inspired. Start writing and creating and you will inspire yourself or your own thoughts
writing is a process. Sometimes it just comes to you, beginning, middle, and end. Other times you wait 10 years to figure out that "perfect ending". Writing in a journal, or writing short movies are great, you can write anything and it doesn't even have to be good. Just gets your ideas flowing. But for that one really good idea, it can take a long time to develop it. Patience is not your enemy when it comes to writing. Not being prepared to actually do something when the idea hits you is the sin.
This video actually brought a tear to my eyes... After 21 years of writing... and now trying my hand at screenwriting... I understood and knew what these fine gentlemen were saying... I felt the words. Excellent video. "Thanks Guys"
I think you could find yourself doing your best work by committing to the rewriting process and being willing to change any piece that could use some improvement. It doesn't have to be one or the other. You don't know what your best work is right from the start.
Good stuff. IMO the last point is the best - a screenplay is not the finished product, but rather the start of a collaborative process. The better the screenplay the more people will want to collaborate on it and get it to the screen.
📝 ====================================== 1. Pick an idea: Have a premise 2. An idea can come from anywhere *Character then building a plot **A plot then build out the characters ***Title 3. Learn the rules and then break all of them. - - Characters must change - Make it relatable - Something to root for 4. There is no art without CONTRAST (Comedic/Dramatic) 5. Keep the story simple: - Story still works as a regular story 6. Keep Drafting: You will have tons of drafts 7. Disagreements will occur with a partner. The key is to determine the level of care. And the lesser level of care should acquiesce to the stronger level of care.
This was informative athough I can't get anyone to explain how two people can write it together... are they writing as the same time? is one writing a scene and the other adds on? the dialogue? who determines that? how is that done together?
The answer is: YES Do all of those things. Different projects and different collaborators call for different approaches. I've done all those things, and they all work if you have good communication, like any other relationship.
"and something relatable, i've seen some movies recently about all powerful gods and stuff like that and you need something to anchor a human being to". Wise words of advice coming from the guy who wrote a movie about fucking sausages
I have an idea for a horror movie. Today kids and adults play video games. In these games like Call of Duty and Apex Legends people are super mean to one another. My idea is that someone or something can find the exact location of someone and they get back at the other person in real life. This already kind of happens in real life because sometimes gamers find other gamers and SWAT them. My idea is that the find them and kill them and everyone else in the home. The twist would be that everyone is looking for a human but in the end it is not human at all. Maybe the supernatural being is the toxic hate build up of years of unchecked hate. I don’t know, I get a lot of silly movie ideas. I have watched a lot of movies over the years. I love the advice from this video, thanks.
Well, another perspective would be that a script is like the blueprint for a new building. Once it is done, the visitors will think about the initial design, mainly if it is a great or a terrible structure. If it is average, most of the people wouldn't even think about construction drafts in the first place.
I have the ideas for the best T.V. shows and I have the best movie's all in my head and I do meen the best. I'm not good at the writing part. If I could somehow come in contact with the right person or producer my ideas would make us ritch. I see the dumbest stuff that somehow makes it on T.V. and movies. Somebody help me it will defiantly be worth your time.
Yeah, your (mis)spellings are the tip-off that you're not necessarily the best writer. Doesn't mean that you're not a great storyteller. Evan seems to be more the writer here than Seth, so yes if you find the right person, perhaps it can work for you. However, if you expect someone to just "write" what's in your head that you dictate to them, you may want to hire an assistant for that. Otherwise, a screenwriter you collaborate with will likely demand SCRIPT credit while you only get STORY credit, which usually is the lesser of the pie, if sold.
Majority of the screenplays that Seth and Evan have written are critically and commercially successful. They are literally some of the highest paid screenwriters in Hollywood and you dont think they are real screenwriters? Give me a break. The joint that Seth Rogen was about to smoke at the end of the video probably has more talent than you.
here watch us ... the rich kids from point grey vancouver show you how to rip off albert brooks and woody allen. Now listen to my annoying laugh as i resonate with you being a funny good guy stoner. The grand finale..... watch how my career actually took off because i’m jewish and not based on contrived marginal talent. How do I sleep at night knowing that knocked up was a script ripped off from rebecca in toronto? just great...
I love their advice about just writing an alternative plot point to see if it works, rather than just endlessly thinking about it. I tend to think and think and think, and never write. Perhaps if I just start writing more, and thinking less, I'll be able to think more clearly, and write a better story.
A tip Robert Rodriguez has always given on writing and creating, do not wait to be inspired. Start writing and creating and you will inspire yourself or your own thoughts
It reminds me of this Joyce Manor lyric "it seems so simple when you step back and view it - just find something to do and then do it"
You just explained my current delema way to on the head
writing is a process. Sometimes it just comes to you, beginning, middle, and end. Other times you wait 10 years to figure out that "perfect ending". Writing in a journal, or writing short movies are great, you can write anything and it doesn't even have to be good. Just gets your ideas flowing. But for that one really good idea, it can take a long time to develop it. Patience is not your enemy when it comes to writing. Not being prepared to actually do something when the idea hits you is the sin.
The thought of having an idea and creating it to a movie is beautiful
I literally just told myself JUST WRITING IT would be faster than continually deliberating...and THERE THEY SAID IT. Love this.
This video actually brought a tear to my eyes...
After 21 years of writing... and now trying my hand at screenwriting... I understood and knew what these fine gentlemen were saying... I felt the words.
Excellent video. "Thanks Guys"
Writing the script for the Tetris movie must be hard,
Every time they write a line, it disappears.
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This is incredible lol
No wonder it fell flat
Don't be a Square! ⬛
I struggle most with the balance between "write your best stuff" and "don't view it as too precious to reshape it"
I think you could find yourself doing your best work by committing to the rewriting process and being willing to change any piece that could use some improvement. It doesn't have to be one or the other. You don't know what your best work is right from the start.
Good stuff. IMO the last point is the best - a screenplay is not the finished product, but rather the start of a collaborative process. The better the screenplay the more people will want to collaborate on it and get it to the screen.
A lot of gems in here, good stuff from established successful screenwriters.
this is such an awesome video. Thank you guys so much for giving the time to give this. It's such great creative insight appreciate it.
This was super insightful. I loved how they were super chill about it.
100%! Another advice (this is what I’ve been given) Write for an audience
📝
======================================
1. Pick an idea: Have a premise
2. An idea can come from anywhere *Character then building a plot
**A plot then build out the characters
***Title
3. Learn the rules and then break all of them. - - Characters must change
- Make it relatable
- Something to root for
4. There is no art without CONTRAST (Comedic/Dramatic)
5. Keep the story simple:
- Story still works as a regular story
6. Keep Drafting: You will have tons of drafts
7. Disagreements will occur with a partner. The key is to determine the level of care. And the lesser level of care should acquiesce to the stronger level of care.
I'm new to this, and I really felt a weight lifted off my shoulders when Evan said "any rule can be broken".
Funny how these two writers are revered for their original, raunchy be it, ideas. Thanks, Rolling Stone!
This was great advice! Aspiring writers like myself really appreciate content like this! THANK YOU
Thanks @rollingstone for this experience.
Absolutely love this!
Thanks dudes.
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"One person feels way stronger" - ha ha - as a solo writer I have these conversations with myself constantly!
manifesting the ability to one day write a successful film that can relate deeply as Mean Girls does. *chef's kiss*
Riverdale writer needs these lessons
Like
These guys don’t know what to do
Same with Family Guy
Facts
thanks i wish the audio was better
Thanks for this. Not really a "101" but fun to watch and some good points made.
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Watch as the rogan is so ready to go smoke that joint that his description of a screenplay is actually describing marijuana 8:14
Love this!!
This was informative athough I can't get anyone to explain how two people can write it together... are they writing as the same time? is one writing a scene and the other adds on? the dialogue? who determines that? how is that done together?
The answer is: YES
Do all of those things. Different projects and different collaborators call for different approaches. I've done all those things, and they all work if you have good communication, like any other relationship.
Thanks for all the helpful tips 152
Very helpful
So that's what Evan looks like.
Yo Seth I bought your Houseplant Indica and Sativa. Not too shabby, and I liked the delivery service, Pineapple Express. ☺️
"and something relatable, i've seen some movies recently about all powerful gods and stuff like that and you need something to anchor a human being to". Wise words of advice coming from the guy who wrote a movie about fucking sausages
I wrote a movie called halfsteppin how do I get Seth to look at it
No one is going to improvise,so everything should be there in the paper when you go to shoot...that's true.
how’s it possible for people in 2021, and especially filmmakers, to have bad audio? Get new AirPods Evan
Awesome
The script they are working on in quarantine is probably console wars
It's 2020 what are these mics?
I have an idea for a horror movie. Today kids and adults play video games. In these games like Call of Duty and Apex Legends people are super mean to one another. My idea is that someone or something can find the exact location of someone and they get back at the other person in real life. This already kind of happens in real life because sometimes gamers find other gamers and SWAT them. My idea is that the find them and kill them and everyone else in the home. The twist would be that everyone is looking for a human but in the end it is not human at all. Maybe the supernatural being is the toxic hate build up of years of unchecked hate.
I don’t know, I get a lot of silly movie ideas. I have watched a lot of movies over the years.
I love the advice from this video, thanks.
Love Seth
When I saw Seth Rogan is giving the advice, I knew this wouldn't be pretentious so I knew it'd be good advice
superbad = best comedy of all time
nice
I think pizza would be comparable to a pit of dead bodies to the walking talking produce... or maybe a taco or a sandwich too.
not gonna lie pretty good but the end
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Well, another perspective would be that a script is like the blueprint for a new building. Once it is done, the visitors will think about the initial design, mainly if it is a great or a terrible structure. If it is average, most of the people wouldn't even think about construction drafts in the first place.
Did they tell you the bit about reading scripts on screenwriting competitions and stealing the best ideas off lesser well-known screenwriters?
Horrible zoom
such bad sound.
Good info, but bad sopund.
Somebody needs to teach them how to write a 2nd Act😂😂😂
Some big stuff happens! Then in the third act, stuff happens that like Changes the other stuff fron Act 1.
They haven't wrote a good movie in over 10 years .......
Goldberg ... oz behind the curtain lol
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Exactly...Seth is one of the luckiest men in Hollywood history.
logic [] [101] :...1 point - bad, {2 points - good}, 3 points - possible, 4 points - (not) possible, *5 points - "dont try(?!)", 6 points - not possible...*
I have the ideas for the best T.V. shows and I have the best movie's all in my head and I do meen the best. I'm not good at the writing part. If I could somehow come in contact with the right person or producer my ideas would make us ritch. I see the dumbest stuff that somehow makes it on T.V. and movies. Somebody help me it will defiantly be worth your time.
Hi! What you say sounds very intriguing. I’d love to know more about your ideas. Please get in touch so we can discuss!
Yeah, your (mis)spellings are the tip-off that you're not necessarily the best writer. Doesn't mean that you're not a great storyteller. Evan seems to be more the writer here than Seth, so yes if you find the right person, perhaps it can work for you. However, if you expect someone to just "write" what's in your head that you dictate to them, you may want to hire an assistant for that. Otherwise, a screenwriter you collaborate with will likely demand SCRIPT credit while you only get STORY credit, which usually is the lesser of the pie, if sold.
F your earbuds, dude! My ears are bleeding 😂
the worst part of this is the segment from 0:01 to 8:41
Screenplay is not a work of art.
---- Seth Rogen
Me: Seriously? It is a work of art. Real screenwriters would agree.
Real screenwriters? Haha
It was actually genius what he said if you cared to listen.
Majority of the screenplays that Seth and Evan have written are critically and commercially successful. They are literally some of the highest paid screenwriters in Hollywood and you dont think they are real screenwriters? Give me a break. The joint that Seth Rogen was about to smoke at the end of the video probably has more talent than you.
here watch us ... the rich kids from point grey vancouver show you how to rip off albert brooks and woody allen. Now listen to my annoying laugh as i resonate with you being a funny good guy stoner. The grand finale..... watch how my career actually took off because i’m jewish and not based on contrived marginal talent. How do I sleep at night knowing that knocked up was a script ripped off from rebecca in toronto? just great...
Careful... your anti-semitisim is showing
Not impressed
Seth Rogen is a joke.
a good one
He is still successful
No u