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Iike the way he goes through all the steps one by one removal each part in a specific order with all the does and don'ts all the torc specs.amd then the prep and then the reassemble making sure that if you have never done it before you can get it done right the first time thanks I feel confident that I can do this
@@awsomekill2 Maybe its not good practice. But you can use torque wrenches to losen bolts !!if you know what youre doing!! First you have to understand why you normally dont use torque wrenches to loosen bolts. Lets say your torque wrench ranges from 50-100 Nm. If you loosen a 75 Nm bolt, you wont damage the torque wrench. But if you try to loosen a 200 Nm bolt, youll overload the torque wrench and damage it. The problem is in 99% of the cases you dont know how tight the bolt really is. (Because of corrosion etc.) Because the guy in the video freshly tighened that nut and immidiately then backed it off a half a turn. He knew loosen that bolt will not overload the torque wrench and therefore not damage it either.
At 7:22 you start to work on "the main bolt on the compensator sprocket". It's torqued tight at 175 ft/pd. I expected your ratchet to break! At 13:44 we see the Jim's Tool. THAT, is just what the doctor ordered! This video is really an excellent presentation of this installation process!
I think this job is beyond my pay grade. My dad used to say my son Joe is a great mechanic,he can take motor apart,put back together and even have parts left over
You explained this better than the BdL rep. On their video. Fantastic job on the install. I have a 94 Dyna w/glide. And it looks great. And works well. I get alot of question's from alot of riders.Great job my freind.
Nice upload! I am running a similar BDL, Performance machine version on a twin cam. 35,000 miles...not a single problem. Love the open belt. Sound of the bearings spinning scares some riders, who have never heard an open belt drive...its entertaining.
Rather than disconnecting the battery, couldn’t you have just pulled the main fuse? Excellent video by the way. This is no doubt a GINORMOUS project! Well done!
I have a 2016 Slim S with a 110, If I want you to install a 3 1/2 open Belt, BDL or Primo, I will buy the belt, How do I get a hold you of you or you shop, You good man you the real deal,
I dont understand....the fluid originally in the primary is for cooling of the chain? Reason i ask is, the clutch is now a "dry" clutch, correct? I was under the impression the clutch had to constantly be 'wet." Nice install. Thnk u
nice video, great step by step explanation, good for dummies like myself ... what I personally don't like is the open belt on the lower side, because that's exactly where the little tiny stones might jump in ... and considering the width and the tight look of the belt, that may rip it ... I've never seen it happen, but I've heard stories of other guys who had that issue ... the other question would be : how much power loss does it have ? ( compared to chain drive )
I just installed this belt drove on my 19 street glide, I'm having an issue with thenclitch pressure plate. If I torque to 10 ftlbs the clutch throw stops about an inch short of the grip? Is this something the hydraulic clutch will adjust to?
Wanna do this too my bike for the look, sound and the fact that fluid transfer from primary and trans won't ever be an issue... but goddamn are these kits $$$$$ for pulleys and a belt
My manual says to remove the secondary clutch actuator prior to removing the clutch pack and compensator sprocket, yet I haven't seen anyone mention this step. Is it necessary to do this?
I need help bad my back tire will not spin with the belt on I had to replace the belt so I replaced the belt now my back tire is stuck it won't move it moves maybe a quarter to a quarterback yeah
They can hold more hp? I thought chains were stronger? I just did a big bore kit 114 to 128 I wonder if I should keep my belt. Probably pushing over 150hp now
Final drive chains are stronger. Primary drive belts are super strong, hence their use on Top Fuel bikes. For your application a clutch upgrade would probably be a wise idea.
Belt drives are old school so are their clutches. More for looks unless you’re a quarter mile guy I guess.A wet clutch Clutch is much better for every day riding. But looks cool. Specially with a big old bowl front end. Instead of them stupid big wheels
Not according to every bike builder I have worked with. The wet primary system is only superior to an open belt drive because of sound levels. The epa not only regulates emissions for carbon but also noise pollution. Its roughly 50 feet from the side on both sides of the bike. An open primary doesn't meet those standards for production bikes according to the builders I know. It's really personal preference but from a performance standpoint a dry primary is far superior to a wet system in in the big twin application but you also don't have to run a big open belt, I have 3 big twins that run a dry primary but are closed and look just like a wet primary. A little more noise but they ride exactly like my 19 glide with the wet clutch.
I guess it depends on how you write doesn’t it with a wet clutch keeps cooler So it doesn’t wear like a dry clutch. If you ride your bike or you look at your bike I guess there’s a difference. Everybody has opinions God bless America I love this country
It's actually the exact opposite my friend a wet clutch holds heat in the fluid since there is no active cooling to help. Think about it, your jugs have fins to dissipate heat, threat of the motor has nothing. So as your motor oil and trans fluid heat up that heat creeps into the primary rather quickly. With an open dry system it is always air cooled and there is nothing to retain heat. Also I have 89,000 miles on my 2011 street glide with a dry primary from about 3k miles and I have never had to replace a belt or clutch in that time. All of my bikes have over 20k miles on their dry primaries with zero issues and zero maintenance, no fluids to change and no chain tensioner to wear out.
Opinions vary I’ve had both I’ll take my wet clutch. Of course I ride my bike . I guess if you ride around town doing bike nights it’s fine . You try that set up on a big bike do you 600 miles in the rain can you tell me about it. Like I said I’ve had both through the years been through all that. Good luck God bless America
@@mickc4633 what are the cons of having it open to outside conditions such as rain? I’m thinking and trying to see if it’s worth it on a touring bike , 800 plus miles trips.
@SpeedyReedyEnterprise 114 m8 with a cam an Tmax. Broke a belt after 10k miles, which is Ok. Ordered new replacement, and it was so loose it would slip off. No help from BDL at all. Just said every belt is a little different like I had to buy them until I find one they works.ivwent back to stock primary with solid front sprocket instead of the compensator sprocket.
@@urbanagolfer thanks for the in depth honest response!!!! 3K is a lot for the company not to stand behind their product. I love the look of it, but not sure if i wanna chance it on a bigger cubic inch motor.
@@speedyReedyEnterprise the ball bearing clutch would not hold TBD 127 lbft of torque my bike has. Had to spend an extra 2 bills for the tungsten ball bearings.
Glad saddle tramp helped you .great video. Saddle tramp seems like a really great guy. did the wrong kind of rice make fuel pump go bad. Just kidding I've road all kind of bikes
I don’t care ...BDL is shit! Wasted my money buying that crap. The inside splines of that clutch basket suck that shit always comes loose and wears out went through two baskets in two years... Then I put on a 3 1/2 inch Ultima set up haven’t had an issue and the clutch is twice as smooth when engaging. Whatever you do do not buy BDL!!!!
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This guy rocks! He not only explains everything very well, he very smart at what he is doing! Best day ever when I stumbled on this Guys Video!
Iike the way he goes through all the steps one by one removal each part in a specific order with all the does and don'ts all the torc specs.amd then the prep and then the reassemble making sure that if you have never done it before you can get it done right the first time thanks I feel confident that I can do this
If i was having this done to my bike then this is the guy i would want to do the job. He knows his stuff.
He might know his stuff, but he used a torque wrench to loosen the compensator bolt when he was gettiing ready to do the final torque lol.
@@awsomekill2 Maybe its not good practice. But you can use torque wrenches to losen bolts !!if you know what youre doing!! First you have to understand why you normally dont use torque wrenches to loosen bolts. Lets say your torque wrench ranges from 50-100 Nm. If you loosen a 75 Nm bolt, you wont damage the torque wrench. But if you try to loosen a 200 Nm bolt, youll overload the torque wrench and damage it. The problem is in 99% of the cases you dont know how tight the bolt really is. (Because of corrosion etc.)
Because the guy in the video freshly tighened that nut and immidiately then backed it off a half a turn. He knew loosen that bolt will not overload the torque wrench and therefore not damage it either.
And with that being what if you have to torque something that's left hand threads so then what do
Please tell him to stop his whiskey and change clothes...he needs help.....his work is great
At 7:22 you start to work on "the main bolt on the compensator sprocket".
It's torqued tight at 175 ft/pd.
I expected your ratchet to break!
At 13:44 we see the Jim's Tool. THAT, is just what the doctor ordered!
This video is really an excellent presentation of this installation process!
I think this job is beyond my pay grade. My dad used to say my son Joe is a great mechanic,he can take motor apart,put back together and even have parts left over
You explained this better than the BdL rep. On their video. Fantastic job on the install. I have a 94 Dyna w/glide. And it looks great. And works well. I get alot of question's from alot of riders.Great job my freind.
Nice upload! I am running a similar BDL, Performance machine version on a twin cam. 35,000 miles...not a single problem. Love the open belt. Sound of the bearings spinning scares some riders, who have never heard an open belt drive...its entertaining.
Great tutorial!! Want to make it perfect, J&P Cycles? Put a list of all tools and part numbers in the description, please.
J&P does great job with tutorial videos. THANKS
I like your comment on when you should of disconnected the battery.... Wouldn't pulling the main fuse do the same thing
Get Down Homie, I sit back and watch all yr install videos it's relaxing love the sound of torque wrench two click's.. Wat up from the 818SFV....
Thanks my man!
- Patrick
Is there any video instructions on how to perform this job on a Twin Cam???
I hope you post a video of that Road King when it’s up and running. I’d like to hear how that drive sounds on there. Seems like an easy install.
We will have a video showing the entire build. Stay tuned!
th-cam.com/video/o6Lrv1fCPCc/w-d-xo.html
Why have I never thought to use the primary cover as a drip pan????? That's so awesome. I'm either shoving rags or cookie trays under there ...
Rather than disconnecting the battery, couldn’t you have just pulled the main fuse? Excellent video by the way. This is no doubt a GINORMOUS project! Well done!
Yes you could also pull the fuse.
Can I get information on doing a 2018 Breakout ?
I have a 2016 Slim S with a 110, If I want you to install a 3 1/2 open Belt, BDL or Primo, I will buy the belt, How do I get a hold you of you or you shop, You good man you the real deal,
Nice job man.
Good tutorial. I learned a lot. Thanks.
Thanks man
- Patrick
Very good video, thoroughly enjoyed it 👍
This guy is the best.
Thanks
- Patrick
Great video! Two questions: are the parts anodized or powder coated and what keeps water from getting in the stator if you ride in the rain. Thanks.
Good ?
I'm guessing you figured it out by now
I had the exactly same question , and how gets the stator cooled down?
Any videos of it running with this?
Buongiorno questo kit è idoneo per trike harley davidson flhtcutg anno 2011? Grazie buona giornata
How about a Twin cam BDL install video?
Great videos, thanks.
Is it ever necessary at some point to re-soak the fibers in type f as "maintenance" so to speak?
I'd like to know that too
Does this kit not exist anymore? For the m8
EVERY video I look at says different numbers for the torque on the front pulley! Should it be Harley torque or BDL torque???
FYI a heavy duty caulk gun / some light tapping also works for the race!!
This is awesome. Thanks for the vid.
I dont understand....the fluid originally in the primary is for cooling of the chain? Reason i ask is, the clutch is now a "dry" clutch, correct? I was under the impression the clutch had to constantly be 'wet." Nice install. Thnk u
It was for lubeing the chain. This kit uses a dry clutch.
Excellent video
Awesome work, we will be at SEMA Thank you for the content
Good video. I would like to have heard it run after completing install.
That is Bad A.. Looking. Love your videos.
nice video, great step by step explanation, good for dummies like myself ... what I personally don't like is the open belt on the lower side, because that's exactly where the little tiny stones might jump in ... and considering the width and the tight look of the belt, that may rip it ... I've never seen it happen, but I've heard stories of other guys who had that issue ...
the other question would be : how much power loss does it have ? ( compared to chain drive )
You mean power gain, why would it loose power? No stretching. Less flexing & slinging. Lighter.
I'm assuming by going to the belt drive that the rubbery tension takes up with the compensator used to do,, ?
my cousins bike had an inner belt drive and the throttle was like an on off switch. Very jerky
sweet install although I would have loved to hear the belts run.
I just installed this belt drove on my 19 street glide, I'm having an issue with thenclitch pressure plate. If I torque to 10 ftlbs the clutch throw stops about an inch short of the grip? Is this something the hydraulic clutch will adjust to?
Does BDL have open drive for 2008 Big Dog k-9 (300rsd)?
Great video. What size socket did you use on the reverse thread nut?
Would been cool to see it in action
Kudos to the camera person.
Great Video and camera work. Like the idea of a dry clutch and belt. How much more horse power is it suppose to give.
@Tommy Ealey Disagree.
Buongiorno è possibile il montaggio su trike harley davidson flhtcutg anno 2011? Grazie buona giornata
what were the tools used to hols the clutch basket during install?
Wanna do this too my bike for the look, sound and the fact that fluid transfer from primary and trans won't ever be an issue... but goddamn are these kits $$$$$ for pulleys and a belt
You do very nice work , I just don't like that belt drive , I had a 3" belt drive for years , thanks for the video
i must have missed the part what to adjust if the belt was to tight or loose?
You cant adjust it. If the belt gets too loose you have to replace it.
And if it doesnt fit you dont have the right belt.
Is the Power loss noticeable with the belt drive ?
What’s the point weight saving??
My manual says to remove the secondary clutch actuator prior to removing the clutch pack and compensator sprocket, yet I haven't seen anyone mention this step. Is it necessary to do this?
This is one of the best Money spent you could do to the bike and you can upsize the pulley it’s like having another gear if you want
I need help bad my back tire will not spin with the belt on I had to replace the belt so I replaced the belt now my back tire is stuck it won't move it moves maybe a quarter to a quarterback yeah
Are there any links to the specialty tools?
My bike teacher always said to tighten it until it cracks then back it off a half a turn lol
He also said cross threads better than no threads…
thanks brother was great content
They can hold more hp? I thought chains were stronger? I just did a big bore kit 114 to 128 I wonder if I should keep my belt. Probably pushing over 150hp now
Final drive chains are stronger. Primary drive belts are super strong, hence their use on Top Fuel bikes. For your application a clutch upgrade would probably be a wise idea.
Love the how to videos
thanks Kurt
Do you sell them for the twin cam?
Thought I would see the required special tools in the comments?
Is open primary dangerous? I know people don't post vids of their pants getting sucked into them....
can this be done too a 2003 low rider
Would this be the same as a twin cam
Should be very similar .
Thanks for sharing the video
Great video thank you
You called it a cam chain tensioner.
Belt drives are old school so are their clutches. More for looks unless you’re a quarter mile guy I guess.A wet clutch Clutch is much better for every day riding. But looks cool. Specially with a big old bowl front end. Instead of them stupid big wheels
Not according to every bike builder I have worked with. The wet primary system is only superior to an open belt drive because of sound levels. The epa not only regulates emissions for carbon but also noise pollution. Its roughly 50 feet from the side on both sides of the bike. An open primary doesn't meet those standards for production bikes according to the builders I know. It's really personal preference but from a performance standpoint a dry primary is far superior to a wet system in in the big twin application but you also don't have to run a big open belt, I have 3 big twins that run a dry primary but are closed and look just like a wet primary. A little more noise but they ride exactly like my 19 glide with the wet clutch.
I guess it depends on how you write doesn’t it with a wet clutch keeps cooler So it doesn’t wear like a dry clutch. If you ride your bike or you look at your bike I guess there’s a difference. Everybody has opinions God bless America I love this country
It's actually the exact opposite my friend a wet clutch holds heat in the fluid since there is no active cooling to help. Think about it, your jugs have fins to dissipate heat, threat of the motor has nothing. So as your motor oil and trans fluid heat up that heat creeps into the primary rather quickly. With an open dry system it is always air cooled and there is nothing to retain heat. Also I have 89,000 miles on my 2011 street glide with a dry primary from about 3k miles and I have never had to replace a belt or clutch in that time. All of my bikes have over 20k miles on their dry primaries with zero issues and zero maintenance, no fluids to change and no chain tensioner to wear out.
Opinions vary I’ve had both I’ll take my wet clutch. Of course I ride my bike . I guess if you ride around town doing bike nights it’s fine . You try that set up on a big bike do you 600 miles in the rain can you tell me about it. Like I said I’ve had both through the years been through all that. Good luck God bless America
@@mickc4633 what are the cons of having it open to outside conditions such as rain? I’m thinking and trying to see if it’s worth it on a touring bike , 800 plus miles trips.
Is this kit available for a 2018 street bob with the cable style clutch?
should be the same..
will this work on a 2020 soft tail slim
I did mine with the aid of this video... I am not happy with the quality of bdls choice in bolts but the install was a breeze with this video.
Touring bike or hot rod bike? I’m thinking of going this route, any pros n cons?
@SpeedyReedyEnterprise 114 m8 with a cam an Tmax. Broke a belt after 10k miles, which is Ok. Ordered new replacement, and it was so loose it would slip off. No help from BDL at all. Just said every belt is a little different like I had to buy them until I find one they works.ivwent back to stock primary with solid front sprocket instead of the compensator sprocket.
@@urbanagolfer thanks for the in depth honest response!!!! 3K is a lot for the company not to stand behind their product. I love the look of it, but not sure if i wanna chance it on a bigger cubic inch motor.
@@speedyReedyEnterprise the ball bearing clutch would not hold TBD 127 lbft of torque my bike has. Had to spend an extra 2 bills for the tungsten ball bearings.
@@urbanagolfer dam smh, thanks for the info my man 👌🏾
Glad saddle tramp helped you .great video. Saddle tramp seems like a really great guy. did the wrong kind of rice make fuel pump go bad. Just kidding I've road all kind of bikes
Cam chain tensioner?
what about them?
@@jpcycles You called the primary chain tensioner a cam chain tensioner.
Rad bud good job
Yes plz!!!!
Belt primary is the only way to go.
Lighter. Tighter. No oil. No maintenance. Im sure it delivers more power that the chain robs.
I thought BDL was a dry clutch open to the air doesn't soaking the plates attract dirt and fling off going down the road?
It is a dry clutch, the initial soak is a break in procedure and doesn't sling oil anywhere (wipe the plates off before install as the video shows)
Great,i love this shit 👌👍
But why? You never talk about who would do this and why.
cool
Please show the bike completely finished. If it ain't done than it ain't done.
The bike is done and there is a full build video coming soon
@@jpcycles I should have known you wouldn't leave it like that. Thank you for the response and I can't wait to see it.
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Amazing how every TH-cam video they will pull upward to loosen instead of pushing down and using body weight to break a bolt or nut loose.
cheater bar ??????
I don’t care ...BDL is shit!
Wasted my money buying that crap.
The inside splines of that clutch basket suck that shit always comes loose and wears out went through two baskets in two years...
Then I put on a 3 1/2 inch Ultima set up haven’t had an issue and the clutch is twice as smooth when engaging. Whatever you do do not buy BDL!!!!
I agree...did you have any issues finding the right compression on your clutch springs? And did you soak your friction plates like he did?
WTF man? We dont get to hear it? GTFO!