⭐COTMAN vs PROFESSIONAL - WINSOR & NEWTON tube watercolour paints | Rose Painting (2022)

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  • @gadamis
    @gadamis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a beginner I really appreciate this demonstration. 😁

  • @stefnedupreez8072
    @stefnedupreez8072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    My preferences are Cotman for some colours, Professional for some colours, and the rest I go between Schmincke, Daniel Smith, M Graham, etc. There are just certain colours in each that I prefer and go back to.

  • @geraldineconway1865
    @geraldineconway1865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    This was a brilliant demonstration Sarah, not as huge a difference as I thought. I started with Cotman and still have a large palate and a good few tubes of it still. It’s perfect for sketchbook and personal work. I didn’t realise that the light fastness was so good on the cotman range. Thanks Sarah for consistently putting out great videos.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you Geraldine. I was quite surprised by the Cotman paints too! I've since ordered a few more tubes (raw sienna, indigo and payne's grey) to use in my practice sessions! 😊

    • @danielhallgren6242
      @danielhallgren6242 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This was difficult to watch because you're talking about one color while doing something with another.

  • @debbieritter1096
    @debbieritter1096 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I didn't see a difference in the paintings- thank you for the demonstration, helpful!

  • @hiralparekh1187
    @hiralparekh1187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This video is perfect. I absolutely loved how you explained the difference. I am starting out with watercolors and this makes watercolor buying decision way easier.

  • @serenityjewel
    @serenityjewel ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In my experience, as long as you don't do a lot of mixing, good student grade paints work just as well as professional grade.

  • @throughmyeyes9940
    @throughmyeyes9940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Excellent video; there are a number of professional watercolor artists whom use Cotman watercolor paints on a regular basis.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much! I have also seen a few professional watercolourists use Cotman paints which is good to know! 😊

  • @colleenmcchesney1482
    @colleenmcchesney1482 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Theses are both gorgeous paintings. Right now I am pleased with my complete set of W&N Cotman Watercolors. I will definitely upgrade to the professional as I run out of the student grade paints. Thanks for sharing this wonderful informational video with us.

  • @lori900
    @lori900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    First of all, your side by side duplicate was amazing!! I've always wanted to know since I have the Cotman paints already. At a glance, not a lot of difference (but like you said, straight out of the tube because they do not rewet that well - fantastic assessment) but upon closer inspection, the Professional is so vibrant and blends gorgeously. While I continue my learning journey (only a little over a year now), I will continue with Cotman (as I am mainly painting approximately 70 individual invitations of flowers at the moment). Thank you so much for this.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Lori! Good luck with the invitations! 😊

  • @mjpete27
    @mjpete27 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi Sarah! Wonderful video and the samples are amazing as well! I know that hue does not always mean inferior! Removing cobalts and cadmium’s from your palettes is a healthier choice for everyone, painters and miners too! Your knowledge is so pleasantly given that you are truly a joy to listen to! I started out with a professional grade paint, my Gran gave me a palette of her paints when I was 10. I went through a thrifty period when I had to buy my own paints! Thankfully it did not last long as I was frustrated with my paintings. I skimped on paper too, this was the very worst thing to cut back on! I hope others know that you can paint quite well with non professional paint but w hen you use inferior papers or surfaces it shows much more and is easily discernible in an artwork! I have enjoyed the ability to create with professional grade paints and papers for years now and I just don’t want to even try working with the cheaper supplies any more! I have gotten the Agave paper that you used in a video and it is a very nice paper. Not a cheap replacement at all! Thank you for sharing all of these wonderful skills with us! Your knowledge is given so well I have every confidence recommending your channel to everyone! Thank you again. Please take care and have a lovely day!

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi I'm so glad you liked the video and really appreciate your comment! Since starting with watercolour (and starting this channel!), I have come to realise the importance of good paper over expensive paints but good (cotton) paper is expensive, so it's nice to find a student range of paints that I like to keep the overall costs down for practice pieces or studies. I have recently thought of removing all cadmiums and cobalts from my collection too but it would be quite wasteful so for now, if there is a cadmium free version available, I am keen to choose it. I have also looked more into Mission Gold's watercolours as they say they are non toxic but I need to do more research as they still appear to have cadmium and cobalt colours? Anyway, have a great week and take care 😊

  • @valeriesmith15
    @valeriesmith15 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the demonstration. I started with Cotman colours, and the colours are good, however I got better enjoyment using the professional colours. Winston and Newton are an excellent brand.

  • @wanderingstar5673
    @wanderingstar5673 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent video and comparison. Being new to watercolor , I now feel comfortable starting with my WN Cotman 14 set.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much and happy painting! 😊

  • @NilO_D
    @NilO_D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! COTMAN is the first brand paint I have ever heard of.
    In the video, WINSOR & NEWTON seems to express the colors brighter and more beautiful in bright colors!
    That's great. Keep our meeting! 👍 110
    Watch the video to the end.
    Have a happy day today!

  • @sandysanzenbacher7313
    @sandysanzenbacher7313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a very good comparison video and I am happy to see the outcome. Both of the paintings turned out so lovely.

  • @KevieG
    @KevieG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was very impressed with cotman. Both your paintings were lovely.

  • @susankelly4911
    @susankelly4911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this tutorial and for going into so much detail. I recently got myself a pack of the tubes to try out. The students range I think. It was the last one in the shop so I grabbed it. I was after these for a long time so I grabbed it off the hanger fairly sharpish. And I can see why they go so fast because the quality is 100%. Beautiful. I tried them for the very first time and I have to say I love them. Looking at your demo I can't see much difference between the students and the professional where the swatches are concerned but when you did the paintings of the rose the Ultra Marine professional tube was more vibrant but both I have to say were beautiful. Thank you. God bless Susan

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Susan! I hope you are enjoying your new paints! 😊

  • @LuzJulianna
    @LuzJulianna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you so much for this video,Sarah 💝

  • @neidedegouvea
    @neidedegouvea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you very much for the review! It helps a lot when deciding which one we can and would invest on 😊

  • @barryteghtmeyer5466
    @barryteghtmeyer5466 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I always tell my students that the student grade watercolors are less color fast in the long run. You are correct in saying that the Cottman would be fine for sketches, but for paintings you want to keep.. stick to professional grade. Thanks for the video!

  • @SuperExadidas
    @SuperExadidas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much Sarah, this demo is very useful. Hoping , someday you can make a demo re: Warm and Cool RGB.

  • @wunna8657
    @wunna8657 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice thank you for this I think I quite like the cotman range now 😊

  • @carrollwilson5169
    @carrollwilson5169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this video. The rose painting just gorgeous 😍💖

  • @rebeccanewberry3176
    @rebeccanewberry3176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved this updated review! I actually use the tubes so this was extra helpful. I'm really happy that the Cotman performed so well. Thank you for sharing (again!).

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Rebecca! So glad you liked the video and good to hear that you use the tubes too 😊

  • @sarthakgautam5311
    @sarthakgautam5311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I have been waiting for this for a very long time. Also my cotman tube paints become chalky and have a weird texture after 3 or 4 layers whereas I can even go up to 6 layers for the pro range. Im a little crazy I do more then 6 layers, i even tore 100% cotton paper, this video shows the diffrence and I like how you mentioned how the pro range is thicker and more pigmented. This vid was very useful and was great like usual!

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Sarthak! I'm so glad you found the video useful and thank you for sharing your experience with the cotman tube paints. I only painted two or three layers on these demo paintings so I didn't experience any chalkiness but it's something I'll definitely keep in mind for future paintings! 😊

    • @kaboomsihal1164
      @kaboomsihal1164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The amount of layers depends massively on both your skill and the way you paint. With some painting methods you can use dozens of thin glazes of watercolour, in others even a second layer can rip the paper. 6 is definitely not a limit lol

    • @sarthakgautam5311
      @sarthakgautam5311 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kaboomsihal1164 Lmao yeah. I have been doing watercolor for 5 years and the method I use is first 2 or 3 glazes are light and watery, then after that I slowly lessen the pigment to water ratio. I usually go to 6 layers but sometimes I have done more than 8

    • @jennw6809
      @jennw6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also recently noticed this too - the Cotmans have filler which is easily seen on black paper or when painting layers over dark!

  • @rozitasheilarahim8016
    @rozitasheilarahim8016 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautiful painting. I think I'll go with Cotman as I found their colours more radiant then WnN even though I'm using both brands in my painting. WnN more for my background painting though. Thank you for the video.

  • @kathiegettinger8374
    @kathiegettinger8374 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have only used hard pan colors - I’m not even sure of their quality. I have been wondering if some of my frustrations come from not using tube paints… this was an interesting demonstration and makes me want to invest in tube paints. Thank you.

    • @glowycloey
      @glowycloey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they are quality, pan paints are fine. It isn't about the form (liquid, dry), but how much filler and what pigments are used that makes it better or worse.
      I leave leftover paints I'm using in a palette, and rewet to use, so I don't waste them. I've created many pans with tube paint, for travel. I find tube paint to be a better value. You get so much!

  • @jasonray9250
    @jasonray9250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful comparison. Thanks for this!

  • @burned812
    @burned812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you!

  • @RobynMcIntyre
    @RobynMcIntyre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Learned a lot from this. Thanks!

  • @Jaymorganhair
    @Jaymorganhair 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how you explain the process as you go along. I’m just getting into watercolor and have been using the cotman primary colors to start off. I’ve learned a lot from it and recommend others starting off to do the same. I’m excited to learn more from your channel. Do you usually use pencil to sketch out your paintings? Can you see it under the color when done? What type of pencil do you use?

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you Jay! For my sketches I usually use a regular HB graphite pencil but I lift any excess graphite off with a kneadable eraser before I start so it's just about visible to use as a guide but not visible on the final painting. If I am painting a very light subject where there is a risk of the pencil showing through, I sometimes use a watercolour pencil instead. Hope this helps 😊

  • @doralevitt2879
    @doralevitt2879 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They both came out great and I'd have no problem with the Cotman. Have you done a comparison review on WN and Daniel Smith? I'm looking for new watercolors and I've recently watched a video on Michael Harding watercolors - the pigments, smoothness and incredible colors of his paints are off the hook- but so are the prices 😳😩🤦

  • @TmarkN
    @TmarkN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have the 24 pan set of Cotman and a 10 tube set of Cotman. I like them both but I generally don't like metal tubes. They are too hard to open after they have been used. They are probably the best watercolors that I have, but I also have a set of Mei Liang (also known as Pretty Excellent) watercolors that I would recommend too. Thanks for your video.

    • @carriannescreations
      @carriannescreations ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi! I seen your comment, and I actually have the Pretty Excellent, and found this video trying to decide if worth upgrade to get the Cotman.?? Id love your opinion. Thank you.

    • @TmarkN
      @TmarkN ปีที่แล้ว

      @@carriannescreations I'm not sure if I would consider Cotman, an upgrade from the pretty excellent, because I think they are both good paints. I honestly just like having both sets.

  • @jannecapelle_art
    @jannecapelle_art 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    my first watercolor set was a cotman 12 half pan set (with a white which i never used), and of course it was way better than the pelikan childrens sets i had used in school. ans also not much more expensive, i paid 15 euros iirc for the cotman set. i used it quite a lot, however without even knowing anything at all about actual watercolors, mixing, pigments or anything like that, i was often frustrated by how hard it was to get a good pigment-payoff from these half-pans, but i only realized that that was the reason for my frustration after i bought some white nights paints early in 2020. all in all, cotman colors arent bad at all, but for the prize i do now prefer other brands with more vibrant (though possibly less transparent) pigment payoffs.
    i always wondered how cotmans compare to the proffesional w&n colors, thanks for the video!

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! I have heard good things about the White Nights paints so I am glad you are enjoying them. I might have to try them myself at some point as I see they are available in both pans and tubes too! Take Care 😊

    • @jannecapelle_art
      @jannecapelle_art 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SarahNewburyArt definitely check them out, theyre very affordable for professional grade paints! :) i would kind of recommend the pans more than the tubes mostly though, not because the colors are bad but because the tube colors take an eternity to dry, even though i dont live somewhere particularly humid. but if you ever decide to try them, it'd be great to hear what you think of them! :) have a good day✨

  • @nikolepape2594
    @nikolepape2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When's your Newton paint is on sale at Jackson's right now this helped me so much I'm about to buy the student grade paint but I think you just talked me out of that thank you love watching your video I just want to paint with something actually sticks to the page tired of cheap watercolors

  • @kathryncurry2662
    @kathryncurry2662 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this wonderful tutorial! What warm and cool colors would you recommend from the professional series for red, blue and yellow.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Kathryn! I used professional winsor lemon and Cadmium free yellow for my cool and warm yellow: permanent rose and winsor red for my cool and warm red and phthalo turquoise and french ultramarine for my cool and warm blue. Hope this helps 😊

  • @lizadivine3785
    @lizadivine3785 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful video!!

  • @karenharrison9786
    @karenharrison9786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this timely video! Do you have a list of the limited professional grade paints that you used to paint the rose?

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Karen, The professional paints I used for the rose painting are: Winsor Lemon; Cadmium free yellow; Winsor red; Permanent Rose; French Ultramarine blue and Phthalo Turquoise. Hope this helps 😊

  • @stefnedupreez8072
    @stefnedupreez8072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I forgot to mention, I've got a large pan of childrens' watercolour too that is useful in surprising places or effects.

  • @cwp7338
    @cwp7338 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I can see why I did not like the yellow ochre. I use raw sienna.

  • @chantalmassin1756
    @chantalmassin1756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What 6 colors would you suggest professional WN ?
    I really your videos I just found you today. Thank you for such great input.

  • @nasimahussain4292
    @nasimahussain4292 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful to understand the paints the professional ones are a bit vibrant

  • @StanWatt.
    @StanWatt. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Should white be in your palette?

  • @heatherpoirier6597
    @heatherpoirier6597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. May I ask what type of palettes you're using? I really like them.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you Heather! The palettes I got on Amazon 😊..... www.amazon.co.uk/MEEDEN-Porcelain-Palette-Painting-Watercolor/dp/B0914PLC7L/ref=sr_1_12?crid=2DJLH3EDF7GOM&keywords=porcelain+palette+with+lid&qid=1647352828&sprefix=porcelain+palette+with+lid%2Caps%2C62&sr=8-12

  • @pixiepqueen
    @pixiepqueen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing skills

  • @nicolemwilcox
    @nicolemwilcox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm new to your channel and I was wondering if there was more information on the brush you used for lifting. thank you!

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Nicole and welcome! The brush I used for lifting is from Rosemary and Co and is called an eradicator brush. I have aa small and a medium. Here is a link to their website www.rosemaryandco.com/eradicator-brush
      Hope this helps! Sarah 😊

    • @nicolemwilcox
      @nicolemwilcox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Sarah Newbury Art Thank you so much for your reply! Ill have a look right away. I recently painted a rose for someone and i was getting frustrated trying to lift with control using a springy round brush.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No problem Nicole! 😊

  • @Anjalifinearts
    @Anjalifinearts 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Omg this is absolutely stunning and amazing looks very fantastic and with great details love your unique creation! Great technique! Enjoyed watching it fully! Greetings from Canada 🇨🇦 just came across your channel and it’s just amazing!

  • @Camille719
    @Camille719 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is an irradicator brush?

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Camille! The eradicator brush is a short, flat, synthetic bristled brush that is really useful for gently lifting out colour (or mistakes!) from your painting. I got mine from Rosemary & Co but before that, I used a small synthetic flat brush instead. 😊

  • @kenbalbari3229
    @kenbalbari3229 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great! Don't know whether you do gouache, but I'd love to see a similar comparison with Winsor & Newton's student grade gouache set and their professional designers gouache.

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Ken! I don't really used gouache a lot but I do have a few of W & N's professional tubes so it would certainly be interesting to compare them to their student range!

    • @coolkid-xc1yi
      @coolkid-xc1yi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think W&N only has one type of gouache and that's their designer gouache.

  • @Tugboat-R-Us
    @Tugboat-R-Us ปีที่แล้ว

    What type of brush is she using?

  • @Rachel-lq9vl
    @Rachel-lq9vl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    defenetly not a huge difference, I think the only color I would use professional out of it would be the reds, and maybe ultramarine blue

  • @erickovach
    @erickovach 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello

  • @jennw6809
    @jennw6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lemon Yellow "Hue" makes no sense! There is no "lemon yellow" pigment, and the professional contains the same pigment! The cadmium hues make sense, but then they don't disclose the pigments in the cadmium free hues. Also, PR 83 is rated "poor" but they claim it's not rated. And why is the Cotman PV 19 different than the professional in lightfastness? With W&N's secrecy and inaccuracy, I can't get on board fully!

    • @SarahNewburyArt
      @SarahNewburyArt  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Jenn! Yes, I did question these things myself but assumed I must be missing something so your comment is reassuring! I don't know why the pigments of the cadmium free versions aren't disclosed either and due to the variations in lightfastness ratings, thought it's just easier to do my own lightfast tests on both sets. I'll have to report back with the results in a few months time!😊

    • @jennw6809
      @jennw6809 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SarahNewburyArt Oh, it's just W&N being a bit weird about their "proprietary" combos. Daniel Smith did the same thing hiding synthetic pigments in their Primateks. But since it's not required for companies to disclose pigments, I guess we should be grateful when they do. I look forward to seeing the results of your lightfastness tests!

  • @oalternativo
    @oalternativo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bottom line: same thing.

  • @rain2269
    @rain2269 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I kinda squirm when u touch the tip of the brush to the tube opening..... reminds me of mold :/