How about adding " If you have a run on the car in front but cannot pass, it is ok to lift off and try again" So many people have to pass at all costs when they have a run.
Welcome to forza where people think they have the right to pass just because they catch up to you and will wreck you off the road if you don't let them pass.
I'd argue that for racing it's kind of reversed actually. I've seen so many people who are lightning fast in time trials but who just don't have a single clue on how to race safely. They treat driving in a tight pack of cars and battling for position exactly the same way as driving a hotlap and that's what causes all the crashes.
I don't do a whole lot of online racing. Been doing some recently in Assetto Corsa. My main issue is i absolutely crumble when someones behind me lol. Can lap consistently most of the time but oh man if i see a car or two behind me withing a second or two...i'm braking too early too late too everything... That's the main thing i'm trying to work on. Handling pressure.
I also had this problem, still do to a degree. My training grounds were in GTS, and it wasn't until I started using the hood cam, which doesn't have a rear view mirror, that I learned to not stress over drivers behind me. It still took an effort not to look behind to see where the other cars were, but slowly and surely I started improving. It is the car behind that has to calculate a pass, not the driver in front that has to calculate how to get passed. It was also a matter of me being too kind and rather letting cars pass than just pushing on.
Rhys Hather I have that kinda mentality except I think “nobody is paying attention to what they’re doing and are thinking about something else.” The amount of times I see people weaving across the road and driving carelessly leads me to believe it’s the truth
yeah it’s more of a ‘don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence’ but being ready to dodge some other person’s mistakes can be a lifesaver in many situations like traffic and iRacing rookies
I honestly dont get the rookie struggles. I have never played any racing sim until I started playing iRacing 3 days ago. It did not even take me half a day to get out of rookies. 5 or 6 races of global mx5 without incidents was all it took.
I never really liked the advice of start from pits in rookie and just lap. You are there to race and learn race craft. Best time to learn all that is in rookie. Get out there on the grid and learn how to deal with turn one chaos when you are in the middle of the field. It takes 2 (some times more) to have a crash. I have been on iracing for three years and I still will save replays of any race that I have any kind of contact. I rewatch it from there cockpit view, I watch it from Chase cam, both mine and there’s, ill watching from the View of the car behind use. I watch from as many different angles to see what I could have done differently. Sure some times there was nothing you could have done to avoid it but more times then not there was something I could have done to help avoid a crash.
I don't believe there's much race craft to be learned in rookies. Race craft has an implicit notion that you're racing with other people who will respect some basic rules of it. Rookie is implicitly based on people being blindingly incompetent and having no race craft. You can't race with people like that. You can only treat them as some features of a Super Mario level. The moment you escape rookie is when you begin to learn race craft, when you're around people who take it seriously.
Perfect Answer. "Idiot Test". Cut to blackscreen would have sufficed at that point. If you are NEGATIVE status in Rookie...Matt just told you why. Good Driving to all the non-idiots.
7:42 To break it down even further, I’d say wreck avoidance is 70% awareness, 20% skill, and 10% luck. There have been PLENTY of instances where I’ve seen wrecks develop way before they actually happened and have acted accordingly. Especially in rookies, always assume if there’s a pack of cars in front of you that they will become a junkyard in the next few laps! Also as a random side note: I made it out of rookies in iRacing before I even got a steering wheel lol.
Final tip i'd give is "It's not the end of the world when you get a 4x for contact caused by someone else, you're not gonna drop down a whole class for that for one 4x, you're not gonna get DQ'ed because of one non-fault contact out of an entire race, the guy who caused it probably will though so its OKAY..." -also applies to GT Sport players who go absolutely ape shit when the same thing happens to them...
megaspeed2v2 shhhh. In gt sport both parties tend ti get the same SR ranking dropped regardless of whom was at fault. Unless the system detects the one actually at fault is at fault and then victim doesnt lose any SR at all.
Both get the same punishment for that one particular incident but my point is the one causing the incident is likely going to have others while you might have only that one so they will drop rank faster than the clean drivers. Sometimes you will drop a rank but you will find it easier to go back up to the rank you deserve than a dirty driver will.
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There's a worse place than iRacing Rookies. It's called Raceroom Silhouette Series. With litteral wreckers. Not just incompetent drivers, people literally on the server with no other purpose than wrecking into people to try ruining their day, by driving the wrong way, stopping sideways in the middle of the track, waiting to ram,... I feel sorry for people with so little to do in their lives.
Heh, tip 11 is something my driving instructor recommended to me as well. The brake lights go on before the brakes themselves actually engage, so you can use the brake lights to indicate you are about to stop before you actually stop. Prevents neck pains.
Before I watched this, the title had me thinking about what would be the one tip I'd give any simracing rookie being an experienced league racer. I watched the video and tip #1 pretty much covered it. When I would host a drivers meeting before a NR2003 plate race, my biggest tip was always "Don't try to make up for a mistake. Take your loss, regroup, and move on, because if you try to jump back into that hole you just left, you will wreck half the field" and sure enough some guy with yellow stripes on lap 10...
Finally got a g29 with h shifter. Not touching iracing yet, just learning with assetto corsa and gt sport. So much awesome. Forget other racers, the tracks keep wrecking me. They got these turns that just come out of nowhere. Brakes? Huh?
As a new driver to iracing how dare you tell people how to deal with me! :P Really tho good tips. I got almost 100 hours in doing AI races just to learn my first racing rig. These tips will help when i get out there and start running people over lol
had to really coach my girlfriend while she was racing this class. She got really frustrated racing these guys in the rookie and D class. I myself watched her do so well only to get caught up in something because someone either spun in front of her or turned her. So I worked with her on her driving lines and what gears to use and when and now she qualifies top 3 regularly and thus gained confidence. Like this guy said practice. It's so nice to have someone to share the same passion I have. On the other note, Mazda class is just carnage in general lol
Thank you for your content man. I kinda just jumped right into sim racing with just my driving experience and yeah it’s enough to get you around the track but there’s so much more to learn! And now with your channel I can skip having to figure out what im doing wrong. Subbed and liked man! Thanks for your content!
I remember watching this when I could not get out of Road Rookie, now the Mazda is so fun and rewarding when I occasionally use them, Keep going for it guys
I use a controller. I got 2 flawless races at Lanier, and a 9x at Charlotte. Off track, wrong plave wrong time 4x, and somebody who full throttle rear ended me after the checkered flag. Even I needed some of these tips.
My personal best advice would be leave yourself few % margin in corners at first 2 laps. Crashes always happen at first few laps until people get some distance between them. And if you go at the limit during corner you can only go quickly to outside, sometimes you notice danger very late due to blind corners and other stuff and you have very limited time to make decision. So it is better to have more choices to escape the madness.
I love the love for Lime Rock Park, I went there as a kid. We got to got in the paddock area and meet the drivers all the time. Most beautiful course in North America IMO
The was a well put together video, with some awesome information. If you are continuing some tip videos, I think a tire management video would for sure be valuable.
The way I got out, which was fairly quickly, was that I just raced to stay on the track. Didn't care for position or for good lap times. Usually I still ended fairly high because everyone crashes except for 1st most of the time, and even 1st will often spin out somewhere. I just gave everyone tons of space to make mistakes without taking me with them. After I realised that I was out of rookies in a week or so.
I can safely say that the ‘keep the car clean and you’ll advance’ system is actually true. I got iRacing, and within 5 days was in the D-License stage in two disciplines. In one of these disciplines I only won one race out of 12, finishing an average of 5th. But for the other, I STILL haven’t gotten a single win, and in fact rarely finished anywhere in the top 5 (with a full field of 19 cars.)
Don't race, just be clean. Don't go all out, just stay clean. That's all you have to do. Race later when you get with people skilled enough to do so. Don't treat it like a race.
(6:10) It’s like trying to not die in an FPS game. Doing well doesn’t mean never dyeing or never getting passed. 5th out of 20 cars is good and 4th out of 32 players is good.
Coming here in 2020 after being on the service a year and a half, sadly I’ve realized, especially on the oval side, the jackasses are the ones that end up finishing well because no one wants to race them because they know they’ll get wrecked if they do, and if they try to pass then they just get blocked
The weird thing is is that when I was in rookies I never really had the stereo typical experience that it seems so many people had, I had majority safe racing in R and D class
Came back to this video to confirm Mr Box' rookies is an idiot test premise. I got out of rookies back in February in 6 races by not driving like an idiot in a public server race.
Have I spun or binned it a few times in rookies? Yes of course I did those were my first 6 (or so) races, I was new. But not racing was the best racing I had in rookies. Start last and watch them wreck left right and center. Let them pass, get of the throttle. Get three clean races (and then some more to get out of D) and when people (and you) are getting cleaner, go for it. Before that, do a hotlap, memorise that time and during the race go 5-10 seconds slower.
What I do to get consistent on any track in iRacing: enable the driving line to learn the track. Once you can do consistent lap times without crashing, turn off the driving line and learn braking at exactly the same spot every single lap on every single corner. Note: the driving line shows a good racing line, but taking different lines can be faster!
I don't advocate using the racing line, in fact I think it's one of the worst things you can do. I find it tends to make people try and follow it too hard - like I HAVE to hit the brakes here, I HAVE to hit the gas here type of thing. Then if used poorly it can result in not actually knowing the track at all once it's taken away, which means you need to learn it over again. Plus when you are racing in traffic you really need to know the circuit to orient yourself, rather than just relying upon feel. The only use I see for racing line assists (in any game) is if you don't know what direction the turns are at all - at which point you are still best off doing some slow laps and learning properly.
The racing line is NOT PERFECT. There are often better and faster ways to get around corners than following the line. You are just developing bad habbits. Find the fastest way around corner yourself. It will take a while. But you will learn from it far more.
Even in league races where you know and race the same people we show the brake light if close to the braking zone to warn the rear driver to back off some. It's hard to see braking points if you are .1 seconds behind someone. Best tip...
My tip is go slow and see how the drivers around you drive, then stay away from them and try to pass if you can, if you can't, then dont try, just drive and learn, dont be suicidal. You will get better eventually and advance in class. I have never used iRacing, but raced against rookies or people just starting and even those that race with keyboard, not an easy task but just going slow you can go fast.
Honestly I do not understand the whole Rookie problem. It took me 3 races to get out of Rookie. But that achieves nothing as long as you are stuck in the low splits. The most useful tip is to up your irating and get out of the low splits. To do that you have to understand the track before you even start a race! Then you can comfortably drive in Rookie series and most of the time you will be around better or evenly skilled drivers. Good tips though!
Now you can cheat your way through rookie class. Im not a big road course racer but I do road courses when nascar goes to them and since it counts towards your license. When we went to daytona road course I got everything ready for promotion all I needed was 3 mx5 races so I just jumped in and once the green flag waved I left and it worked.
"The reaction time of a sloth. But why didnt you slow down for the wreck neh neh nehhhhh" Lol good tips map(totally didnt call you map matt). Its the basic eules everyone needs to know
I've been watching a few video's around and about, i was always a die hard gran turismo fan, then the new one kind of disappointed a little bit, primarily because they decided to discontinue the use of the G25 wheel set on the PS4 system, so R3E popped into my view and i've tried it and find it great, invested in a new graphics card for the PC and going to see if i can decide on which tracks & cars to invest in, and sell the PS4....these tips are so simple and logical, but i'm sure some don't even realise! I do find that i wreck on the start line in the R3E races due to the fact people go the the start line and then don't move so you go full bore off the line and then try and quickly avoid them, back end spins round and then every man and his dog goes into the side of you! Great fun though when you get a clean track,, particularly like the Portamau track, for a free track it's great fun, and a challenge!
I would argue that the people keep wrecking me argument isn't as cut and dry as its the person's fault for just not getting out of the way. Remember. this is a racing sim, if you just get out of the way all the time you are going to get burnt out on it REAL quick. Now I'm not saying that it isn't their fault in some circumstances, but you can't really help it if someone decides to take it 2-3 wide in the s section of suzuka(as an example). There's just not much you can really do with that if you were the one being dived upon (other than just give up the position, of which, screw you this isn't an option, that isn't racing, and no I'm not saying giving up the position isn't sometimes justified). The problem with sim racing is that there is no real fear to do these moves, you crash, you can move on, no problem. iRacing's safety rating and iRating is at it's core flawed. It does not account for incidents that happened to no fault of your own, nor does iRating show a player's true pace. There have been periods of time where i've had my iRating up to over 2500, and there are times when i get unlucky with the opponents I get and get crashed 10 races in a row. It can happen. nothing you can really do about it.
I don't know if this was said in the video or not but pick your battles and know when you been beaten as you can lose one or two places for 1 lap then make up 4 or 5 places in the next one
Don't start from the pits. If you can't handle the pressure of starting with other cars and avoiding turn 1 carnage, then you are not ready to go to higher classes yet. That's the point of rookie class - learn to deal with races and racing. When getting to Class D and higher it's time to learn pace, racecraft, etc. not turn 1 avoidance..
Never had Problems with Rookies. Went through them like a hot knife through butter. Starting from the back, ending up somewhere in the front because the others crashed. Problems started with GT3s... Many people trying things they are not capable off. I mean it's possible that this changed since i stopped driving in iracing... But yeah in a BSS race you have so many people trying to fight for the win in lap one turn one wrecking everything in front of them because they are not capable of driving safely through turn one.. They aren't even capable of holding their line in a corner or act like there is no one around them. And oh boy... the netcode incidents everytime... So many people complaining about the netcode... why don't they anticipate that and act accordingly with giving a bit more space? Those are the things that really grind my gears. Not any rookies that are still new to this stuff.
For those that are more seasoned. I started last week. I'm 47 years old. Yeah, I've raced F1 2019 and Forza and this is flat out different. I'm primarily running ovals. I ran one Dallara Dash Michigan race and finished 15th after qualifying 20th. First race. Tried dirt and rally, not a fan. Raced practiced and raced last night in the Legend '35 Ford car. Shitty qualification (wrong set up) and then because of the "idiots" I worked my way to a full race finishing 3rd. Carnage everywhere as per Rookie. However, when I looked at the race entry list I wasn't listed as "Rookie", rather "Division 1" There were cars all the way up to Division 7. What does that mean exactly? Are there divisions within Rookie. And yeah, when cars are "warming tires" and wrecking on the pace lap *facepalm, One dude during practice was doing a burn out at pit exit *double face palm*
I had like a 3 month trial of iracing, and boy the amount of freebies I got everyrace, that and avoiding being wreck by the race maniac of turn, dear lord , the amount of actual racing was very little in comparison I enjoyed nevertheless, but about a month and a half in, I started having this dizzy feeling and had to stop, which was weird because before that and today still Racing on AC ACC RR3 dirt rally project cara has never experience that dizzy feeling again, weird
Rookies don`t know the cars and the tracks, that is the single main cause of wrecks. If you get confident enough to keep going at similar pace for 20-25 laps then you won`t wreck at T1. You should know everything, how the car acts, the curbs etc. I`d say at least 50-80 laps with the car you`re about to race in. Different car, again 80 laps. And that is just the start. People who know how to race have probably somewhere of 500-1000 laps on this certain track, in this particular car. Pubs is racing with people who don`t give a damn about that. Which means wrecks are unavoidable.
Let the trash take their selves out first. Im an A class on both Road, Dirt Oval and Oval and I still hang back at the starts let the trash take themselves out first and you'll know whos trash and who isnt and its usually the guy thats divebombing turn 1 and 3 every lap or the ones that overshoot a corner to try and catch a leader and when they do 10 laps later its usually a wreck.
iv been playing for a few years now and if i qually poor then i still start in pits, on average i normally make up all the positions i lost from the pits on the first lap due to wrecks anyway, then its a clean race for me
I got out of rookies in 2 races. Just don't go in the first 2-3 corners with those idiots and then you are good to go. I always started in the back and then finished in top 5. Keep it on the track without spinning of and you will pass all of the idiots playing on keyboard, gamepad or simply brainless drivers. No racing knowledge then, only rallying :)
I am trying to do all my car control alone before racing. What courses should I focus on if I just purchased the game? I would like to do both oval and track racing. I don't want to practice with a car I can't even use as a rookie on a track I will never use as a rookie.
"It's an idiot test, not a skill test." - you just defined the new standard answer to everyone complaining about rookies. Haha
How about adding " If you have a run on the car in front but cannot pass, it is ok to lift off and try again" So many people have to pass at all costs when they have a run.
Roland Smith yeah it's called pick your battles
Welcome to forza where people think they have the right to pass just because they catch up to you and will wreck you off the road if you don't let them pass.
@@Delimon007 Spot on Sir!
A tip that I've applied to playing guitar, racing, and any other skill really:
"First you get good, then you get fast."
"There's always someone better than you"
But then, I don't like getting into the "better" argument when it comes to guitar playing.
"git gud son",
-words to live by
been playing guitar for 11 years, i totally agree
Eyyy fellow guitar player/ racer
I'd argue that for racing it's kind of reversed actually. I've seen so many people who are lightning fast in time trials but who just don't have a single clue on how to race safely. They treat driving in a tight pack of cars and battling for position exactly the same way as driving a hotlap and that's what causes all the crashes.
Rookies is the only place on iRacing where the license system actually matters
The race isn't won in the first lap
3 wide is a wreck about to happen
It is OK to slow or brake when you gotta run, but no safe way to pass
These should be added.
3 wide is a wreck about to happen, think thats in the bible
Damian Clement Underrated comment.
Moses also believed that 2 wide is a wreck about to happen, and demonstrated it by smashing the tablets.
I don't do a whole lot of online racing. Been doing some recently in Assetto Corsa. My main issue is i absolutely crumble when someones behind me lol. Can lap consistently most of the time but oh man if i see a car or two behind me withing a second or two...i'm braking too early too late too everything... That's the main thing i'm trying to work on. Handling pressure.
Only gonna get better with experience and making sure you've learned the tracks properly and know your marks.
I also had this problem, still do to a degree. My training grounds were in GTS, and it wasn't until I started using the hood cam, which doesn't have a rear view mirror, that I learned to not stress over drivers behind me. It still took an effort not to look behind to see where the other cars were, but slowly and surely I started improving. It is the car behind that has to calculate a pass, not the driver in front that has to calculate how to get passed. It was also a matter of me being too kind and rather letting cars pass than just pushing on.
Just ignore them and race your own game. Focus on your positioning and that will prevent them from passing you.
'Assume everyone is out to get you' my dad told me this when i was learning to drive irl. Saved my butt on many occasion.
Rhys Hather I have that kinda mentality except I think “nobody is paying attention to what they’re doing and are thinking about something else.” The amount of times I see people weaving across the road and driving carelessly leads me to believe it’s the truth
yeah it’s more of a ‘don’t attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence’ but being ready to dodge some other person’s mistakes can be a lifesaver in many situations like traffic and iRacing rookies
Why did I watch the whole thing? I haven't been an iRacing rookie in 8 years...
Haha same as me,because it is fun :)
I watched it to reminisce the rookie struggle
I honestly dont get the rookie struggles. I have never played any racing sim until I started playing iRacing 3 days ago. It did not even take me half a day to get out of rookies. 5 or 6 races of global mx5 without incidents was all it took.
entertainment...
@@twentytwo2222 same here. just started the other day, finished 2nd on my 3rd mx5 race and got out of rookies on my 5th race :D
I never really liked the advice of start from pits in rookie and just lap. You are there to race and learn race craft. Best time to learn all that is in rookie. Get out there on the grid and learn how to deal with turn one chaos when you are in the middle of the field.
It takes 2 (some times more) to have a crash. I have been on iracing for three years and I still will save replays of any race that I have any kind of contact. I rewatch it from there cockpit view, I watch it from Chase cam, both mine and there’s, ill watching from the View of the car behind use. I watch from as many different angles to see what I could have done differently. Sure some times there was nothing you could have done to avoid it but more times then not there was something I could have done to help avoid a crash.
I don't believe there's much race craft to be learned in rookies. Race craft has an implicit notion that you're racing with other people who will respect some basic rules of it. Rookie is implicitly based on people being blindingly incompetent and having no race craft. You can't race with people like that. You can only treat them as some features of a Super Mario level.
The moment you escape rookie is when you begin to learn race craft, when you're around people who take it seriously.
Depends on where you end up.
Empty Box or your mind set
This video reminds me of the good ol Empty Box Sim Racing 101 videos that I watched when I was started out in iRacing
Perfect Answer. "Idiot Test". Cut to blackscreen would have sufficed at that point. If you are NEGATIVE status in Rookie...Matt just told you why. Good Driving to all the non-idiots.
Haha perfect timing of this video, since I just yesterday joined iRacing. Will try to use these tips to be less of a rookie
How has it worked out? I recently joined.
7:42 To break it down even further, I’d say wreck avoidance is 70% awareness, 20% skill, and 10% luck. There have been PLENTY of instances where I’ve seen wrecks develop way before they actually happened and have acted accordingly. Especially in rookies, always assume if there’s a pack of cars in front of you that they will become a junkyard in the next few laps!
Also as a random side note: I made it out of rookies in iRacing before I even got a steering wheel lol.
But awareness is a type of skill... :-P
Michal Valta *cues Mr. Miyagi voice*
“Now you have learned the secret rookie grasshopper. Take this wisdom and go forth in your journeys!” 😂
I just spent 13mins watching this and i'm A class. F*ck logic :D
Same lol
Flisko
Me too. Although in B. 😳
I got out of rookie back in 2011 and I'm, still watching this through.
Final tip i'd give is "It's not the end of the world when you get a 4x for contact caused by someone else, you're not gonna drop down a whole class for that for one 4x, you're not gonna get DQ'ed because of one non-fault contact out of an entire race, the guy who caused it probably will though so its OKAY..."
-also applies to GT Sport players who go absolutely ape shit when the same thing happens to them...
megaspeed2v2 shhhh. In gt sport both parties tend ti get the same SR ranking dropped regardless of whom was at fault. Unless the system detects the one actually at fault is at fault and then victim doesnt lose any SR at all.
Both get the same punishment for that one particular incident but my point is the one causing the incident is likely going to have others while you might have only that one so they will drop rank faster than the clean drivers. Sometimes you will drop a rank but you will find it easier to go back up to the rank you deserve than a dirty driver will.
There's a worse place than iRacing Rookies. It's called Raceroom Silhouette Series.
With litteral wreckers. Not just incompetent drivers, people literally on the server with no other purpose than wrecking into people to try ruining their day, by driving the wrong way, stopping sideways in the middle of the track, waiting to ram,...
I feel sorry for people with so little to do in their lives.
Heh, tip 11 is something my driving instructor recommended to me as well. The brake lights go on before the brakes themselves actually engage, so you can use the brake lights to indicate you are about to stop before you actually stop. Prevents neck pains.
In sims, it just prevents headaches! ;-)
I wish it just stopped after idiot test! I used to ride in the back about 15 seconds behind the car in front of me so I was not near anyone!
I was REALLY tempted to do that, then I figured if they really needed this video that may not suffice.
Before I watched this, the title had me thinking about what would be the one tip I'd give any simracing rookie being an experienced league racer. I watched the video and tip #1 pretty much covered it. When I would host a drivers meeting before a NR2003 plate race, my biggest tip was always "Don't try to make up for a mistake. Take your loss, regroup, and move on, because if you try to jump back into that hole you just left, you will wreck half the field" and sure enough some guy with yellow stripes on lap 10...
wax off wax on is thoroughly correct
It's amazing how much of this applies to all the other series on iRacing as well....
Thanks for the tips! Maybe I'll finally get out of rookie class.
Finally got a g29 with h shifter. Not touching iracing yet, just learning with assetto corsa and gt sport. So much awesome.
Forget other racers, the tracks keep wrecking me. They got these turns that just come out of nowhere. Brakes? Huh?
As a new driver to iracing how dare you tell people how to deal with me! :P Really tho good tips. I got almost 100 hours in doing AI races just to learn my first racing rig. These tips will help when i get out there and start running people over lol
You should make this part of the Simracing 101 series.
And subtitle it.......how not to be a Barnacules Nerdgasm! ;) :P
had to really coach my girlfriend while she was racing this class. She got really frustrated racing these guys in the rookie and D class. I myself watched her do so well only to get caught up in something because someone either spun in front of her or turned her. So I worked with her on her driving lines and what gears to use and when and now she qualifies top 3 regularly and thus gained confidence. Like this guy said practice. It's so nice to have someone to share the same passion I have. On the other note, Mazda class is just carnage in general lol
Thank you for your content man. I kinda just jumped right into sim racing with just my driving experience and yeah it’s enough to get you around the track but there’s so much more to learn! And now with your channel I can skip having to figure out what im doing wrong. Subbed and liked man! Thanks for your content!
I remember watching this when I could not get out of Road Rookie, now the Mazda is so fun and rewarding when I occasionally use them, Keep going for it guys
Watched a couple "out of rookies" videos, this one really hammered it in, thanks man!
Just started iRacing not too long ago and these pointers, especially starting from pits at road courses has helped me immensely. Thank you!
great tips. starting and staying at the back in oval racing is a good way to avoid lap one fiesta and likely end top 5
I love the way you don't beat around the bush and tell people what they NEED to hear, not what they want to hear.
I use a controller. I got 2 flawless races at Lanier, and a 9x at Charlotte. Off track, wrong plave wrong time 4x, and somebody who full throttle rear ended me after the checkered flag. Even I needed some of these tips.
DISAPPOINTED! I hoped the video was about to end there when you called them all idiots :P
My personal best advice would be leave yourself few % margin in corners at first 2 laps. Crashes always happen at first few laps until people get some distance between them. And if you go at the limit during corner you can only go quickly to outside, sometimes you notice danger very late due to blind corners and other stuff and you have very limited time to make decision. So it is better to have more choices to escape the madness.
Yellow means floor it DUH.
Floor it? Floor it? IM GONNA FLOOR IT!
I just wanna pass on the outside of turn 4....what's a yellow?!
Yup, that's what Dallara Dash can do to you... create bad habits
FLOOR IT!
I love the love for Lime Rock Park, I went there as a kid. We got to got in the paddock area and meet the drivers all the time. Most beautiful course in North America IMO
The was a well put together video, with some awesome
information. If you are continuing some tip videos, I think a tire management video would for sure be valuable.
Screens the Forza players out you’re saying
The way I got out, which was fairly quickly, was that I just raced to stay on the track. Didn't care for position or for good lap times. Usually I still ended fairly high because everyone crashes except for 1st most of the time, and even 1st will often spin out somewhere. I just gave everyone tons of space to make mistakes without taking me with them. After I realised that I was out of rookies in a week or so.
Yup! It's incredibly easy once you understand what the rookie license level is actually about.
I do that brake thing while driving normally. I almost always lightly go on and off the brake especially if someone is following way too close
I can safely say that the ‘keep the car clean and you’ll advance’ system is actually true. I got iRacing, and within 5 days was in the D-License stage in two disciplines. In one of these disciplines I only won one race out of 12, finishing an average of 5th. But for the other, I STILL haven’t gotten a single win, and in fact rarely finished anywhere in the top 5 (with a full field of 19 cars.)
Don't race, just be clean. Don't go all out, just stay clean. That's all you have to do. Race later when you get with people skilled enough to do so. Don't treat it like a race.
(6:10) It’s like trying to not die in an FPS game. Doing well doesn’t mean never dyeing or never getting passed. 5th out of 20 cars is good and 4th out of 32 players is good.
Coming here in 2020 after being on the service a year and a half, sadly I’ve realized, especially on the oval side, the jackasses are the ones that end up finishing well because no one wants to race them because they know they’ll get wrecked if they do, and if they try to pass then they just get blocked
The weird thing is is that when I was in rookies I never really had the stereo typical experience that it seems so many people had, I had majority safe racing in R and D class
Thanks for info ,to finish first you first have to finish !
Came back to this video to confirm Mr Box' rookies is an idiot test premise. I got out of rookies back in February in 6 races by not driving like an idiot in a public server race.
I just completed my first race on iracing (mx-5) and man I was having a blast everyone was very nice even on the mic
Great video.It' stating the obvious but it's amazing how many people need to watch this video several times.
Have I spun or binned it a few times in rookies?
Yes of course I did those were my first 6 (or so) races, I was new.
But not racing was the best racing I had in rookies. Start last and watch them wreck left right and center.
Let them pass, get of the throttle. Get three clean races (and then some more to get out of D) and when people (and you) are getting cleaner, go for it.
Before that, do a hotlap, memorise that time and during the race go 5-10 seconds slower.
What I do to get consistent on any track in iRacing: enable the driving line to learn the track. Once you can do consistent lap times without crashing, turn off the driving line and learn braking at exactly the same spot every single lap on every single corner.
Note: the driving line shows a good racing line, but taking different lines can be faster!
I don't advocate using the racing line, in fact I think it's one of the worst things you can do. I find it tends to make people try and follow it too hard - like I HAVE to hit the brakes here, I HAVE to hit the gas here type of thing. Then if used poorly it can result in not actually knowing the track at all once it's taken away, which means you need to learn it over again. Plus when you are racing in traffic you really need to know the circuit to orient yourself, rather than just relying upon feel.
The only use I see for racing line assists (in any game) is if you don't know what direction the turns are at all - at which point you are still best off doing some slow laps and learning properly.
The racing line is NOT PERFECT. There are often better and faster ways to get around corners than following the line. You are just developing bad habbits. Find the fastest way around corner yourself. It will take a while. But you will learn from it far more.
Even in league races where you know and race the same people we show the brake light if close to the braking zone to warn the rear driver to back off some. It's hard to see braking points if you are .1 seconds behind someone. Best tip...
All of these tips are perfectly fitting for driving on the road. Especially "everyone is an idiot and is out to get you" :D
Great thanks at 71yr old I am considering signing up to iracing
This is empty bucks!
My tip is go slow and see how the drivers around you drive, then stay away from them and try to pass if you can, if you can't, then dont try, just drive and learn, dont be suicidal. You will get better eventually and advance in class. I have never used iRacing, but raced against rookies or people just starting and even those that race with keyboard, not an easy task but just going slow you can go fast.
Honestly I do not understand the whole Rookie problem. It took me 3 races to get out of Rookie. But that achieves nothing as long as you are stuck in the low splits. The most useful tip is to up your irating and get out of the low splits. To do that you have to understand the track before you even start a race! Then you can comfortably drive in Rookie series and most of the time you will be around better or evenly skilled drivers. Good tips though!
Now you can cheat your way through rookie class. Im not a big road course racer but I do road courses when nascar goes to them and since it counts towards your license. When we went to daytona road course I got everything ready for promotion all I needed was 3 mx5 races so I just jumped in and once the green flag waved I left and it worked.
"The reaction time of a sloth. But why didnt you slow down for the wreck neh neh nehhhhh" Lol good tips map(totally didnt call you map matt). Its the basic eules everyone needs to know
Hey empty box, I was hoping that are you considering about being an Iracing commentator for Iracing anytime soon?
I've been watching a few video's around and about, i was always a die hard gran turismo fan, then the new one kind of disappointed a little bit, primarily because they decided to discontinue the use of the G25 wheel set on the PS4 system, so R3E popped into my view and i've tried it and find it great, invested in a new graphics card for the PC and going to see if i can decide on which tracks & cars to invest in, and sell the PS4....these tips are so simple and logical, but i'm sure some don't even realise! I do find that i wreck on the start line in the R3E races due to the fact people go the the start line and then don't move so you go full bore off the line and then try and quickly avoid them, back end spins round and then every man and his dog goes into the side of you! Great fun though when you get a clean track,, particularly like the Portamau track, for a free track it's great fun, and a challenge!
Learned the hard way about wreck avoidance today. I was that guy slamming on the breaks.
I would argue that the people keep wrecking me argument isn't as cut and dry as its the person's fault for just not getting out of the way. Remember. this is a racing sim, if you just get out of the way all the time you are going to get burnt out on it REAL quick. Now I'm not saying that it isn't their fault in some circumstances, but you can't really help it if someone decides to take it 2-3 wide in the s section of suzuka(as an example). There's just not much you can really do with that if you were the one being dived upon (other than just give up the position, of which, screw you this isn't an option, that isn't racing, and no I'm not saying giving up the position isn't sometimes justified). The problem with sim racing is that there is no real fear to do these moves, you crash, you can move on, no problem. iRacing's safety rating and iRating is at it's core flawed. It does not account for incidents that happened to no fault of your own, nor does iRating show a player's true pace. There have been periods of time where i've had my iRating up to over 2500, and there are times when i get unlucky with the opponents I get and get crashed 10 races in a row. It can happen. nothing you can really do about it.
Great advice. I still have the problem of watching out ahead of me, touch the brakes when I see people bump and bang, and bam run over from behind.
Watch the rear view mirror, get out of the way and give douchebags from behind the room they need.
I don't know if this was said in the video or not but pick your battles and know when you been beaten as you can lose one or two places for 1 lap then make up 4 or 5 places in the next one
Hang on. Qual on Pole. Be fast. Drive away from noobs. 0 incident points and a win. I does matter how fast you are Matt.
Don't start from the pits. If you can't handle the pressure of starting with other cars and avoiding turn 1 carnage, then you are not ready to go to higher classes yet. That's the point of rookie class - learn to deal with races and racing. When getting to Class D and higher it's time to learn pace, racecraft, etc. not turn 1 avoidance..
By chance does that "idiot in legends" have the initials WB?
Who was that Cup driver...? I need to know!
Logano
But who is the NASCAR driver?
What cup driver was it? Was it William Byron by any chance?
I’m curious who the cup driver is that ran you over
Good job man, hopefully rookies will take notice of this vid. Funny, I thought it was going to be on how to avoid/dodge the rookies lol
Every new racer to iRacing should be required to watch this. Good stuff!
Never had Problems with Rookies. Went through them like a hot knife through butter. Starting from the back, ending up somewhere in the front because the others crashed. Problems started with GT3s... Many people trying things they are not capable off. I mean it's possible that this changed since i stopped driving in iracing... But yeah in a BSS race you have so many people trying to fight for the win in lap one turn one wrecking everything in front of them because they are not capable of driving safely through turn one.. They aren't even capable of holding their line in a corner or act like there is no one around them. And oh boy... the netcode incidents everytime... So many people complaining about the netcode... why don't they anticipate that and act accordingly with giving a bit more space? Those are the things that really grind my gears. Not any rookies that are still new to this stuff.
Ya....we all knew this. Don't race and then you'll get out of rookies.
You had me in the first half, not gonna lie!
I get your point with don’t always race hard but when someone passes me I want to pass them back and then he wants to pass me and the it’s on
Gotta say rookie oval took me months, and rookie road only took a few races. Oval is brutal.
Thanks for the brake (lights) tip!
What about the trolls that swerve back and forth, purposely wait and swerve into the biggest pack they see etc?
They habitually take care of themselves.
I know I'm really late, but who was the NASCAR driver that ran you over?
Thank you for the video, wish this was required viewing for all iRacers
For those that are more seasoned. I started last week. I'm 47 years old. Yeah, I've raced F1 2019 and Forza and this is flat out different. I'm primarily running ovals. I ran one Dallara Dash Michigan race and finished 15th after qualifying 20th. First race. Tried dirt and rally, not a fan. Raced practiced and raced last night in the Legend '35 Ford car. Shitty qualification (wrong set up) and then because of the "idiots" I worked my way to a full race finishing 3rd. Carnage everywhere as per Rookie. However, when I looked at the race entry list I wasn't listed as "Rookie", rather "Division 1" There were cars all the way up to Division 7. What does that mean exactly? Are there divisions within Rookie. And yeah, when cars are "warming tires" and wrecking on the pace lap *facepalm, One dude during practice was doing a burn out at pit exit *double face palm*
Dan Galyen When I play games I just let people take each other out
That‘s an Empty Box Classic! :-) Awesome!!! :-)
Stay at the back so you can avoid collisions. Drive safe and you will get out of rookies
Great stuff as usual EB.
I had like a 3 month trial of iracing, and boy the amount of freebies I got everyrace, that and avoiding being wreck by the race maniac of turn, dear lord , the amount of actual racing was very little in comparison I enjoyed nevertheless, but about a month and a half in, I started having this dizzy feeling and had to stop, which was weird because before that and today still Racing on AC ACC RR3 dirt rally project cara has never experience that dizzy feeling again, weird
Rookies don`t know the cars and the tracks, that is the single main cause of wrecks. If you get confident enough to keep going at similar pace for 20-25 laps then you won`t wreck at T1. You should know everything, how the car acts, the curbs etc. I`d say at least 50-80 laps with the car you`re about to race in. Different car, again 80 laps. And that is just the start. People who know how to race have probably somewhere of 500-1000 laps on this certain track, in this particular car.
Pubs is racing with people who don`t give a damn about that. Which means wrecks are unavoidable.
Let the trash take their selves out first. Im an A class on both Road, Dirt Oval and Oval and I still hang back at the starts let the trash take themselves out first and you'll know whos trash and who isnt and its usually the guy thats divebombing turn 1 and 3 every lap or the ones that overshoot a corner to try and catch a leader and when they do 10 laps later its usually a wreck.
Before I had seen this video, I was using these tips. I just started iRacing a couple weeks ago and made it into D license on Ovals
iv been playing for a few years now and if i qually poor then i still start in pits, on average i normally make up all the positions i lost from the pits on the first lap due to wrecks anyway, then its a clean race for me
Why am i watching this? Im out of rookie in all four classes lol
I've only seen a few of your videos but I just realized that you sound exactly like Mayor Pete.
I got out of rookies in 2 races. Just don't go in the first 2-3 corners with those idiots and then you are good to go. I always started in the back and then finished in top 5. Keep it on the track without spinning of and you will pass all of the idiots playing on keyboard, gamepad or simply brainless drivers. No racing knowledge then, only rallying :)
I want a video, "Tips to survive iRacing A Class BSS .... " Or Road to Pro Series.......
Funnily enough, the same advice applies. ;)
Philosophical Quotes with Empty Box
Who ran over you at South Boston?
I am trying to do all my car control alone before racing. What courses should I focus on if I just purchased the game? I would like to do both oval and track racing. I don't want to practice with a car I can't even use as a rookie on a track I will never use as a rookie.