I love his theater and am close to puling the trigger on some used 11's. Either put them in my dedicated two channel room or theater. So lets get this video to 500 likes for the review!
It's great, the room is very beautiful and from how it starts to how it ends, ufff, excellent example to follow...note it only has the avr, it doesn't have external power, greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
I got a weird setup now, just got the KLH Model 5s w/ yamaha aventage 1080 and five old mirage omnisats. The old all-omnisat setup had a more forgiving sweet spot and had much more air, but having the big direct fronts puts more weight behind the midrange and bass. Soundstage is smaller, but I get a more clear image, sweet spot is no longer ginormous though. For HT, the small single omnisat isn't quite enough as a center now, but because of space constraints I can't get wide centers, so I may go with an Ohm Walsh 1000/2000 just cause I'm used to omni speaker coherency now. Sometimes you end up mix'n matching.
It's 7.2.4 not 7.4.2....the middle number is for the subs. But if you integrate them well they will work as 1 virtual sub so it's really a 7.1.4 setup no matter how many subs you use.
Unfortunately, I don’t have the luxury of a man cave. My 2 channel hifi has to fight for it’s right to be in our family lounge. There is an almost constant battle with the wife and daughter scrabbling for the remote control for our Panasonic OLED and me trying to dispense them both to their respective bedrooms which I’ve thoughtfully kitted out with Sky TV. So that I can enjoy my music via a pair of R11 speakers, augmented by a pair of Rel T9X subs and bi-amped with a pair of Kinki MB7 monoblocks driving the Kef’s bass drivers and a pair of Audiolab 8300 monoblocks powering the Kef’s mid and high frequency drivers. I recently upgraded to the R11 speakers from my former Q Acoustic speakers. Looks like you’ve a very nice set up there. I’m not particularly into home theatre. If I set such a system up, I could wave my rights to lounge access! A difficult balancing act. Catering for the wants and needs of the 2 girls in my life and my needs as a long suffering audiophile.
Thanks for listening some of your equipment. However, if this was indeed an audiophile grade setup, one should have all the equipment listed! The fact you haven't listed your cables one can only assume your noise floor is no different from any others. Thanks for posting.
Hey brother, I am in a similar scenerio as you, I currently have the Q950's and contemplating upgrading to the R11's meta for my LR. My center will be R6 meta. and side and rears R3 metas. Powered with emotiva dedicated amp, Marantz pre amp and pretty powerful sub. I am wondering for HOME THEATER movie application, was it worth to upgrade to R11s from the Q950s?? please answer, im close to ordering, some people are telling me for movies the Q950s are better?
Greetings, Great video. I am wondering if you think the R2C is that much better than the current q650 center you currently own? If so why? I'm new to the KEF speaker brand, but I love them so far.
Congrats on the R11s. They should serve nicely as your foundation 2ch as you continue to upgrade around it. Nice job on the overall aesthetics of the room. Ideal for movie viewing, but feels cozy enough to hang out for gaming.
I have narrowed my search for speakers to be KEF brand. But I'm not sure about which model. I was able to listen to the Q750's at Magnolia best buy. They sounded nice but figured I would like the Q950 even more. How much better are the R11's over the Q950 in your opinion? my thinking is that if I go with the 950's I can have more money for a powerful Amp to pair with the Marantz SR7015 and speakers (should add I'm planning for 4 950's as front and rear channels to match 🙂) and get 2 SVS SB16'S. Lastly which KEF center channel will be best for that setup in your opinion? Thank you in advance for your suggestion I really think I can trust your judgment.
My experience with the R11s have been a significant upgrade from the Q950. If you do grab the R11s, get the Kef R2C which is the matching center channel. Your front three speakers are the most important for home theatre in my experience. Sounds like you're going to have an awesome home theatre soon! 👌👌👌
Hey superb hometheatre. Can you help me with a query. My room size is 20*13*9..Im having Denon 4700H amplifier. Which centre speaker will be the best for movies.. KEFQ650 KLIPSCH R52C Q ACCOUSTIC 3090i
Did you have any issues integrating the 2 subs without them being identical? Considering another 2 at the moment but the current 2 SVS are ported and would need to be sealed to get the next 2 to fit in the front of the room
That room sounds really odd on the microphone.. Love the R11 - for me .. the tweeter is a bit low .. I'd like them to be 1 woofer higher because of how I sit tall in my listening rooms. .. Looks great! Nice video.
@@ThujanK The Final D8000 pro looks really cool and futuristic!. May I ask which headphone amplifier and dac do you have in your main setup and best paired with the Final D8000 pro?
Saludos temgo un Samsung Neoqled 85” 2022, no tengo sistema 5.1..2 , cual serie de kef me recomiendas que tenga atmos, me gustan las bocinas de al frente que sean floor standing, tbien que receiver me recomiendas para combinar con las kef
oh man, now I know it is true when they say: "listen to your wife!". We were buying recently floorstand speakers and there was a choice between piano glossy and another colour/matt. Then she said: "glossy will reflect when we watch"... - see what happens when you don't listen to the better half? You end up paying for premium finish and then ... you cover it ;-)
Thujan, congrats on the home theater setup. Question for you though.Do you find the projector makes enough noise to interfere with the overall sound during quiet scenes? I'm curious what you have to say about the projector noise of your current setup, and again in the future when you try a 4k projector. Thanks.
Because my room is treated and the projector is close to the ceiling behind the listening position. It is not that noticeable at all even during quiet scenes. My new projector (already ordered) has a Laser based light source which is close to silent.
@@ThujanK ah this is very good to hear. In my condo's theater room we had a very good projector mounted on the ceiling, but it was fairly noisy and noticeable when there was a quiet scene. Thanks and all the best.
Hello, is there a noticeable difference between Kef Q (Q950,Q650C,Q350) vs R series (R11/R2C/R3)? I currently have a 7.2.2 setup using Rel Predator subs. 50/50 usage for movies and music. Will the R series be a worthy upgrade from the Q series?
For HT don't think you will notice the difference. For 2 channel music then yes but it all depends on your room. I was told the difference between the Q vs R sound was about 25% in favor of the R.
I use the Denon PMA-1600NE in my bedroom with my Kef R100 bookshelves and R400b Subwoofer. I will be hooking it up to the R11 during the reviewing process.
Such amazing front speakers with the R11’s. Overkill for HT but you listen to music and it is built for that. For me, i merged a separate HT and separate 2ch gear into the same space. Even though the HT LCR (Kef in walls) aren’t as good as my 2ch speakers (Spendor’s). To me, the preamp and amps (plus streamer) make such a huge difference to the 2ch experience. No receiver is good enough for my ears (I use a 7013 in my HT set up and McIntosh/PrimaLuna for 2 ch). I have run my HT using the Spendors (instead of the in wall Kef) as the LR and listened to 2ch with the Marantz receiver. It is very good. Much better for HT and very good still for 2ch. I value 2ch more and chase the sq more. For HT, the visuals matter more and the story/movie I am watching. Two channel is all about the sq.
These subs have different tuning options so I can experiment with the port configuration to get them as similar as possible. Afterwards I volume match them and then run room calibration to correct for the room gain for random peaks. But you're correct having the same exact subwoofers does make intergration easier.
If one is going to choose a subwoofer for music, make sure the subwoofer driver is quite small! Big driving subwoofers can't move as fast as a small driving subwoofers! Therefore cannot keep up with the stereos I've had my fair share of subwoofers,but its only when I splashed out and got some Rel subs that I realised what a true subwoofer can bring to the music!
Do you feel that lots of “cheap” surrounds sounds better than a simpler 5.2 with better speakers. Say a pair of kef R5s for front and rear? I have been running full range (I mean full range) speakers in a 5.2 setup in a room more than large enough room to support 7.2 but for the center seat the extra speakers seem like a waist. Really not sure.
Personally I found that it does make a difference. Especially when using Dolby Atmos with how it decodes sound to be interpreted as three-dimensional objects.
What are you using to play 2ch music, hope it's not the marantz surround sound amp. Dedicated Stereo Amp is the way to go for music much more enjoyable
If I had a smaller room I would have gone with a 77" oled. I'm accustomed to a 120" screen. When ambient light is removed, the picture from a competent projector is fantastic. Also for Acoustic purposes having a large glass screen between two speakers isn't the best.
If this video gets over 500 likes. I will do a full on review of the KEF R11 !
Perfect the r11 gets so many positive reviews as one of the best at 5k u.s. love to see a review
A review would be good. I thought the reference 3 was ok.
I love his theater and am close to puling the trigger on some used 11's. Either put them in my dedicated two channel room or theater. So lets get this video to 500 likes for the review!
Just do it already!
@jay soulsik: I just clicked like #501 !!!!
This is great, we need more content for those of us that want the best of both the hifi and home theater worlds.
This is so well done. Love the editing and how unscripted it feels. Makes me want to do a video of my own HT.
Please do.
yes pls
Thanks Thomas!
I'd love to see this!
Literally farting my guts out! Do not come in the bathroom after me. Know what a Indian boy is saying?
7.2.4 not 7.4.2 unless you have 4 subs and 2 height speakers. Looks great and probably sounds awesome. Nice work.
Thujan rockin the chest hair and Jay still looking like physicist Michio Kaku!
To be Fair I was told we were going on an adventure!
@@ThujanK 😂😂😂 Had to tease you a little! Nice set up, man, love both you guys!!
I actually thought the same thing xD
Thanks, Jay, for the very informative "man cave" video!...Those KEF R11 floor standing speakers look amazing!
You can also get the projector ISF calibrated, makes a big difference.
It's great, the room is very beautiful and from how it starts to how it ends, ufff, excellent example to follow...note it only has the avr, it doesn't have external power, greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽
Love the progression and reasons why you made changes great story.
Just like Jay, Thujan is bona fide!
I like this type of content.
Keep it up you two.
I got a weird setup now, just got the KLH Model 5s w/ yamaha aventage 1080 and five old mirage omnisats. The old all-omnisat setup had a more forgiving sweet spot and had much more air, but having the big direct fronts puts more weight behind the midrange and bass. Soundstage is smaller, but I get a more clear image, sweet spot is no longer ginormous though. For HT, the small single omnisat isn't quite enough as a center now, but because of space constraints I can't get wide centers, so I may go with an Ohm Walsh 1000/2000 just cause I'm used to omni speaker coherency now. Sometimes you end up mix'n matching.
It's 7.2.4 not 7.4.2....the middle number is for the subs. But if you integrate them well they will work as 1 virtual sub so it's really a 7.1.4 setup no matter how many subs you use.
Great Video Thujan and Jay! Dig the set up, and that paint suits the room elegantly! 🔥 Can’t wait to see the new 4K set up!
I love the look of those acoustic panels xx
All that beautiful work and brown carpet too boot 😃
Looks nice. The final stage is painting the ceiling black. A black ceiling made a huge difference in my theater.
It is on the "to do list"!
Unfortunately, I don’t have the luxury of a man cave. My 2 channel hifi has to fight for it’s right to be in our family lounge. There is an almost constant battle with the wife and daughter scrabbling for the remote control for our Panasonic OLED and me trying to dispense them both to their respective bedrooms which I’ve thoughtfully kitted out with Sky TV. So that I can enjoy my music via a pair of R11 speakers, augmented by a pair of Rel T9X subs and bi-amped with a pair of Kinki MB7 monoblocks driving the Kef’s bass drivers and a pair of Audiolab 8300 monoblocks powering the Kef’s mid and high frequency drivers.
I recently upgraded to the R11 speakers from my former Q Acoustic speakers.
Looks like you’ve a very nice set up there. I’m not particularly into home theatre. If I set such a system up, I could wave my rights to lounge access!
A difficult balancing act. Catering for the wants and needs of the 2 girls in my life and my needs as a long suffering audiophile.
The Marantz amp does those R11s' justice...?
Thanks for listening some of your equipment. However, if this was indeed an audiophile grade setup, one should have all the equipment listed!
The fact you haven't listed your cables one can only assume your noise floor is no different from any others.
Thanks for posting.
That is a serious man cave, very impressive.
@@andysummersthxcinemaandmyc7748 would you say that it would be optimal for the LCR speakers all to be the same?
Hey brother, I am in a similar scenerio as you, I currently have the Q950's and contemplating upgrading to the R11's meta for my LR. My center will be R6 meta. and side and rears R3 metas. Powered with emotiva dedicated amp, Marantz pre amp and pretty powerful sub. I am wondering for HOME THEATER movie application, was it worth to upgrade to R11s from the Q950s?? please answer, im close to ordering, some people are telling me for movies the Q950s are better?
Greetings,
Great video. I am wondering if you think the R2C is that much better than the current q650 center you currently own? If so why? I'm new to the KEF speaker brand, but I love them so far.
Congrats on the R11s. They should serve nicely as your foundation 2ch as you continue to upgrade around it. Nice job on the overall aesthetics of the room. Ideal for movie viewing, but feels cozy enough to hang out for gaming.
I have narrowed my search for speakers to be KEF brand. But I'm not sure about which model. I was able to listen to the Q750's at Magnolia best buy. They sounded nice but figured I would like the Q950 even more. How much better are the R11's over the Q950 in your opinion? my thinking is that if I go with the 950's I can have more money for a powerful Amp to pair with the Marantz SR7015 and speakers (should add I'm planning for 4 950's as front and rear channels to match 🙂) and get 2 SVS SB16'S. Lastly which KEF center channel will be best for that setup in your opinion? Thank you in advance for your suggestion I really think I can trust your judgment.
My experience with the R11s have been a significant upgrade from the Q950. If you do grab the R11s, get the Kef R2C which is the matching center channel. Your front three speakers are the most important for home theatre in my experience.
Sounds like you're going to have an awesome home theatre soon! 👌👌👌
You should get a pair of JL E112's and Dirac. You won't regret it.
Love it, My first dip into the HT water was with KEF and Marantz. Yours is quite a bit nicer though.
fantastic setup love my kef q series for the theater and music side note that couch looks comfy asf
I recently purchased pair of KEF Q950 and centre Q650 with Denon 2700H
Niiiiiice! love the r11s I've had them a few years now....not many reviews out there.
Thank you for sharing. Very interesting to watch.
Can you compare the r7? to the q950s?
Got reflections from projector, problem solved! Nice cover for R11.
Awsome home theater! Try going high sensitivity like klipsch heresy. You may find for movies you can’t go back. Music is more of a taste thing
Hey superb hometheatre. Can you help me with a query. My room size is 20*13*9..Im having Denon 4700H amplifier. Which centre speaker will be the best for movies..
KEFQ650
KLIPSCH R52C
Q ACCOUSTIC 3090i
Did you have any issues integrating the 2 subs without them being identical? Considering another 2 at the moment but the current 2 SVS are ported and would need to be sealed to get the next 2 to fit in the front of the room
That room sounds really odd on the microphone.. Love the R11 - for me .. the tweeter is a bit low .. I'd like them to be 1 woofer higher because of how I sit tall in my listening rooms. .. Looks great! Nice video.
Cool setup, Thujan. Congrats. :)
Thanks Paul!
@@ThujanK Hi Thujan, whats the best headphone that you have tried?, saw in some videos that you had the final d8000 pro!.
@@tomvu9353The best headphone I've owned/tried is the Final Audio D8000 Pro!
@@ThujanK The Final D8000 pro looks really cool and futuristic!. May I ask which headphone amplifier and dac do you have in your main setup and best paired with the Final D8000 pro?
@@tomvu9353 I used a Schiit Mjolnir Headphone amp. I found the Chord Qutest /Hugo 2 to be great pairing DAC wise. As the D8000Pro is very detailed.
Excellent,very well designed 👍👍🪃
Saludos temgo un Samsung Neoqled 85” 2022, no tengo sistema 5.1..2 , cual serie de kef me recomiendas que tenga atmos, me gustan las bocinas de al frente que sean floor standing, tbien que receiver me recomiendas para combinar con las kef
Also try to run REW so you can see the response. One doesn't slap on treatments coz they look aesthetically good...they all serve a purpose.
The magnat are cool for home cinema, saw them in a sound editing studio as Atmos speakers
oh man, now I know it is true when they say: "listen to your wife!". We were buying recently floorstand speakers and there was a choice between piano glossy and another colour/matt. Then she said: "glossy will reflect when we watch"... - see what happens when you don't listen to the better half? You end up paying for premium finish and then ... you cover it ;-)
Very smart wife!
Clean setup!
Why don't you just get a nice 83"oled ?
Thujan, congrats on the home theater setup. Question for you though.Do you find the projector makes enough noise to interfere with the overall sound during quiet scenes? I'm curious what you have to say about the projector noise of your current setup, and again in the future when you try a 4k projector. Thanks.
Because my room is treated and the projector is close to the ceiling behind the listening position. It is not that noticeable at all even during quiet scenes. My new projector (already ordered) has a Laser based light source which is close to silent.
@@ThujanK ah this is very good to hear. In my condo's theater room we had a very good projector mounted on the ceiling, but it was fairly noisy and noticeable when there was a quiet scene. Thanks and all the best.
Hello, is there a noticeable difference between Kef Q (Q950,Q650C,Q350) vs R series (R11/R2C/R3)? I currently have a 7.2.2 setup using Rel Predator subs. 50/50 usage for movies and music. Will the R series be a worthy upgrade from the Q series?
For HT don't think you will notice the difference. For 2 channel music then yes but it all depends on your room. I was told the difference between the Q vs R sound was about 25% in favor of the R.
Hi great set up! How do kef t series sound as a surround speaker?
I use the Wisdom Audio Infinite Wisdom Grande that cost $700,000 & the Cessaro Horn Acoustics Omega 1 - that go for a cool $1m each!
Thujan - do you not use the Denon PMA-1600ne anymore? Do you find the marantz receiver to be close in performance with the R11’s?
I use the Denon PMA-1600NE in my bedroom with my Kef R100 bookshelves and R400b Subwoofer. I will be hooking it up to the R11 during the reviewing process.
@@ThujanK thanks for the feedback!
I love your wall color i want to paint my room like this color may you help me with a link for this paint or the number code please ?
Such amazing front speakers with the R11’s. Overkill for HT but you listen to music and it is built for that.
For me, i merged a separate HT and separate 2ch gear into the same space. Even though the HT LCR (Kef in walls) aren’t as good as my 2ch speakers (Spendor’s). To me, the preamp and amps (plus streamer) make such a huge difference to the 2ch experience. No receiver is good enough for my ears (I use a 7013 in my HT set up and McIntosh/PrimaLuna for 2 ch).
I have run my HT using the Spendors (instead of the in wall Kef) as the LR and listened to 2ch with the Marantz receiver. It is very good. Much better for HT and very good still for 2ch. I value 2ch more and chase the sq more. For HT, the visuals matter more and the story/movie I am watching. Two channel is all about the sq.
Hey just setup my R11s what do you suggest to cross them over at I have one svs sub
When you have dual subs don't they give good results when they are the same? Thats what I experienced when changing from unmatched to matched subs
These subs have different tuning options so I can experiment with the port configuration to get them as similar as possible. Afterwards I volume match them and then run room calibration to correct for the room gain for random peaks.
But you're correct having the same exact subwoofers does make intergration easier.
Nice setup.. How do like the R11's?
There will be a video on it!
How'd that kef q650?
You received over 500 likes 2 months ago... you going to keep your promise and do a "full on review of the KEF R11!"...? :)
Do you use a power conditioner? I notice with my system it makes quite a noticeable difference to improve the clarity of the audio and video.
Oh yeah what power conditioner are you using?
@@totalplonker824 Furman Elite-15i
what does Thujan think of Jay's totems.
I love the video. But the title is misleading - I thought much talk would be on Kef speakers.
Very nice 👍 But would like to hear more about your 2 channel setup and how it sounds. Would think the subs would be major overkill.
I do not use the subwoofers for two channel listening. I find the R11s to have more than adequate bass for music!
If one is going to choose a subwoofer for music, make sure the subwoofer driver is quite small! Big driving subwoofers can't move as fast as a small driving subwoofers! Therefore cannot keep up with the stereos I've had my fair share of subwoofers,but its only when I splashed out and got some Rel subs that I realised what a true subwoofer can bring to the music!
Nice
Vary nice
Do you feel that lots of “cheap” surrounds sounds better than a simpler 5.2 with better speakers. Say a pair of kef R5s for front and rear?
I have been running full range (I mean full range) speakers in a 5.2 setup in a room more than large enough room to support 7.2 but for the center seat the extra speakers seem like a waist. Really not sure.
Personally I found that it does make a difference. Especially when using Dolby Atmos with how it decodes sound to be interpreted as three-dimensional objects.
What are you using to play 2ch music, hope it's not the marantz surround sound amp. Dedicated Stereo Amp is the way to go for music much more enjoyable
He said a mm7025. You can see it on a shelf under the marantz receiver.
Love this new series, bring us more please
Love you Jay! Can’t live you move! Please talk about Anne Heche! I mean wtf?
for the love of Pete! ...fix the white celing issue!! aweful for projection
Lol…pay for lacquered speakers and then cover them over 😊
"Stay at home" does't sound so terrible, right?!? :P
Free treatment tip from me.
Kick your table out of the room.
Just buy a 65 or 77 inch oled. Projectors look so bad in comparison so I don't get it...
If I had a smaller room I would have gone with a 77" oled. I'm accustomed to a 120" screen. When ambient light is removed, the picture from a competent projector is fantastic. Also for Acoustic purposes having a large glass screen between two speakers isn't the best.
Maybe some sound demo
...
So jealous
I find surround sound morally repugnant BUT I do like having a big screen TV.
Please improve cinematography.
Show me how its done
- J
🙏🏽 No offence.
Wanted to see the gears, gear placement from a distance, I found it too much zoomed in. Ty.
Could be better.
Man cave within a man cave?
Pretty much! 😁
The amount of dust on that table in the middle of the room is off-putting.
U r rich
Buys ported subs and blocks the ports...🤪
😅😅😅 It's a work in progress.
Lol well it gave him the option