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THIS. IS. IT! Our biggest and best drag race EVER! Mat, Yianni, and Raz from Remove Before Race are on the start line, and they’re lining up respectively in an Audi R8 V10, a Tesla Model X P100D and an AMG GT 63 S 4-door! …oh, and if that isn’t enough, they’re also brought along the new BMW M8 Competition and a Porsche 911 Carrera 4S! Could it be our most exciting drag race yet?! You’ll have to keep watching to find out…
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This might be one of my favourite videos we have done together Matt ... Sam the editor is on fire with this one 🤦🏽♂️😂🤦🏽♂️...
Hello
Ello
I pissed in my face
She's rather good isn't she...
The workout part was perfect
Matt is living the dream of every guy at the same time
What a guy
Dont you have a game tomorrow against Juventus?
LFC899 i wish I was the football player, I would be able to buy one these at least. Just the name is not enough haha
@@dmertens3181 Doe de groetjes aan Kat
I actually thought It was Dries Mertens. I was about to say come to Arsenal
True men
This M8 launches so well
*Proceeds to show a burnout launch footage*
Exactly what I thought haha
for an AWD it launches pretty bad tbh
ShaRk. Still a good car tho
Yes the fastet fire
@@no_alias_for_me That was in 2WD mode and he said that he wanted to check if the car would launch better in 2wd
Is there any M8 fans??
The M Power⚡
Ahh bmw is shit
@@Mr_devextion You are only a kid that plays Roblox and probably knows 0 about BMW. Who would believe you Lol
@@Brtkzdl lol, what type of games i play has nothing to do with what i know, am just saying, for the price u paying for a bmw and for the huge expectations as the best german car, in my opinion is pretty shit, i know u a kid that just like bmw cz everyone else does, and for the fact that u got pissed when i wasn’t even talking to u.
@@Brtkzdl i see that ur recent coment in this chanel is “ have u ever lisent to a v10 m5” yeah kid, u a bmw fan boy, accept it, bmw shit
@@Mr_devextion yeah what abt you? ur probs a tesla/porsche/merc/audi fanboy
No one:
Mercedes 4Matic: **Windows XP noises**
Perfect for Forza Horizon 4.
Viper TheLegend you know merc drivers use OSX (spinning rainbow of death)
Vista*
Mercedes 4matic sistem:WINDOWS XP ERROR LOL
Ils v8
All the other cars: gone
*AMG: 4MaTiC n0t AvAiLaBLe*
That guy doesn't know how to launch it!
ser82ser after a while it goes into safe mode to protect the diff I think. If you’ve seen the insta videos the R8 has problems at the start.
ser82ser He’s launched more amgs than we’ve probably had cars, it was the 15+th launch which is why he had problems, it’s explained on his insta
ser82ser he’s Mr AMG he definitely knows much better than you
ser82ser Do you even know who that is...
That bmw m8 looks sexy as hell from back especially in black 😍
ok m8
2:51 was such a breathtaking view.. 😍
R8 is better
@@Cava-_- bold coming from someone with an R8 as their pfp. Realistically, for day to day use, the M8 is the best car here.
@@smar1208 yes definitely agree
Merc: we have exhaust!
Tesla: i have 4wd avaible
this guy cannot drive man
The M8 also has 4wd
They are all AWD…
@@chaoszombie9995 You are correct
@@chaoszombie9995 The joke went passed you, the Merc had problems with the 4 Matic it was unavailable
10:45 "tesla wins if we're talking about how fast you could drive legally on the road"
**laughs in german**
Hahahahaahaa
😂😂😂😂
haha soon you dont laugh in germany anymore your highway will get a tempo limit soon hahaha
kevin keller äh no? 😂
@@ExpressAndExploreLife no it s in a discussion but it wont get a law ...
Just realized how light the r8 really is for having a massive v10
yes its the same platform as the lamborghini huracan. audi did their best to keep it light so both cars will perform well.
@@questionyourself718 not just the same platform, it's basically the same car just with two different designs haha like all the other cars from the Volkswagen-group
@@dr-ok3sn yeah mostly. i mean they use different brakes, different dampers, and different downforce system so they are handling a bit different on the racetrack or in tight corners but yeah basically the same car.
@@questionyourself718 the damper system is actually the same, just a bit different setup, the rest is true, but that doesn't change the fact that those cars are still the same actually cause the rest is just additional tuning, everyone can actually make that hahaha
1600 kg's and "light" .... I lol every time
Yianni's starting expression gives him a hundred more horsepower
Nishit Singh Birman ikr!!!
4:56 lmao
300 like ☝️😃
Hahahaha. Lol
Dudes a creep...
These videos are literally getting better and better. Montage, humour, content and obiviously, the cars... Everything is excellent. Best motorization yt channel so far.
you need a bigger perspective if you really mean what you wrote..
Strabunitz This is my personal opinion, nobody has to agree with me. Just wanted to mention that this is my favorite place to come after university and spend some good time watching things that will be well-made and interesting. Have a great day.
TH-cam isn't that old itself, the platform as a whole is evolving for the better.
The best part was when yani was like what porsche and the end when the porsche lost the brake test
Best motorization yt channel in english***
Yianni:"that BMW is no joke,the fan boys must love that car"...
Sebastian Elvin Difele we do tho
Still lost
Still trash
@@jbenduro4604 Trash? How original.
alvin rivera what lost? Did u even watch the video? R8 performance won drag race, bmw won rolling race & merc won brake test.
AMG: 4Matic unavailable
RBR: SLAMS HIS HEAD ON THE STEERING WHEEL
The Porsche Hahahahaha
ah the good old proven German craftmanship
@xellossaxon if you say something like that then it indicates you have no idea and have no German car I live in Germany and drive a 350ps Lexus that says a lot
@xellossaxon German cars are like expensive disposable razor blades. Most lease them and get rid of them before issues pop up.
@xellossaxon Clearly not as much of a best as the other cars here. Video evidence. LOL
“THAT BMW M8 IS THE BUSINESS”!
😂😂😂
"This time we're gonna do it in 3rd gear"
Tesla:
😂
Exactly what I was thinking 👍
Lol exactly
@Xp Reflex yeah, only can keep up in launch, acceleration, and 1/4 mile
@Xp Reflex but most of mom wouldnt get model x p100d because they can find something bigger and cheaper because moms never care about the performance
i love how Yianni’s always just vibing and always bringing vibes
The sound of that R8 V10
Stunning. V10 naturally aspirated engine is getting really rare. Even though I don't like Audi a lot, I love to see that they still use this type of engine.
Awesome sound, and what about that sound from the Tesla.......🤣
@@pmb0071 V10s were always rare, naturally aspirated engines are becoming rare, which makes the hurican and r8s engines an amazing selling point other than the incredible chassis
sp royals Sound and heat is just wasted energy 🤷🏻♂️ That’s a 7 seat SUV keeping up with the best of what the fossil industry has to offer 😂
@@adamhenderson4549 all while looking like shit and no sound
Never knew the M8 was that fast!!
It's a beast!!
Yes... I also never thought
BMW made an ad on Halloween for the M8... You should check it out. Lol
@@ShemieNyathi okk...
@@ShemieNyathi fuck.... no one was there in the car 😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣😅😅😅😅😂😂😂 . Just now seen... thank you . 😊😊😊
Yianni is hilarious. The M8 is still proving to be the car to have, great race lol
R8 looks way better and performs way better. A much better car all around
Audi still won lol
@@Siamese_cat_doesnt look better
That m8 is fast faster than I expected
than*
But slower than an m5
*than
fas as why should the m5 be faster... it is slower
@@Hellafast2uDude M8 Comp did 11.0 sec,and M5 Comp did 11.1 sec(against E63S)
3rd and 4th gears in BMW’s are absolutely insane. The power band seems to always be centered around those
The power band lol it's not a two stroke
The last time I was this early, the 2019 Toyota land cruiser looked like it was from 2009
Wait...
Edit: I've never got so many likes😱😱 guys, thank u so much👍
Nice...
Jai Bellare And interestingly enough the2019 does in fact look like the 2009😏
@@Kevin19700 r/whoooooosh
I've been saying this same for the tundras and the toys fan boys get all mad lol
4matic missed the bus and was late to the race
Quavo Huncho yeah mercs are FOOKIN trasg
Lmao 4matic aint shit quattro ftw
4matic is shit
LOL at anyone that says 4MATIC is shit 😆 literally the second best awd system in the world right behind Audi’s Quattro
George Snyder Porsche has the best than Toyota and than come‘s Audi
All the cars: Who came up with this.
Matt and the gang: Tee-Hee
7:48 you can see yannie gaining that extra momenteum with that head backlash😂😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
Lmao that Porsche kept up with the rest and it’s not even the Turbo S...
just chillin in comfort mode :D
Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
The Turbo S will be a lot more expensive, too though... up to 70k.
Turbo S would destroy them all
@@Rettilos yeah ehm no... the Turbo maybe destroy the R8, but not the M8 and AMG GT 4
Respect to Yianni for driving a family car in a sport car race 😂
family car: 795 hp and 125 grand? ok :D
@@Stratocasterhead51 Well it IS a family SUV 7 seater. Let that sink in. A 7 seater SUV racing against sports cars/sedans.
@THIS is moug me duro Disagree. I think it looks Badass and love the interior. And you're right, it's fast in a straight line. Something all sports cars dream to be at the quarter.
Ronin Z lol careful you’ll trigger a lot of people with your comment 😂
@@kind-heart6273 Too late lol.
"Start at 50 locked in 3rd"
Yanni: laughs in electeic
"Does the roll locked in 3rd
All cars besides the porsche: laughs because they won
Yanni doesn't have a third, he should have been disqualified.
He's locked though
Matt: Laughs in V10-sound
Matt: Have you seen what happened to the Porsche?
Yianni: What Porsche????
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Matt: what about the Porsche wasn’t even watching
Yanni: what Porsche ?
-200 hp..
The Turbo S will wax ‘em all whenever it’s out
You're a clown.
Tesla Model X P100D - 795hp - 11.1 Secs
Porsche 911 Carrera 4s - 450hp - 11.4 Secs
Yeah.... That Porsche!!!
SoccerBoi500 EXACTLY it will destroy them
Matt: There's something for everyone... apart from Porsche fans.
911 Turbo S on the top of the table: lol
Turbo s will eat them all for breakfast
@@erfdj Turbo S is unbelievable. People don't know what a monster that is...
Shayan Baig Actually, every car guy knowd that the Turbo S is one of the fastest serial cars currently, both in straight line and on the track..
It faster than a Lamborghini and mclaren is scary
yea well but thats not fair, I mean you can't just put a 911 turbo s into that race it just won't be fair anymore for the rest of them, thats just what it is. ofc they knew the 911 Carrera in this video won't make it xD
Imagine having a car worth over 100k and failing 4 wheel drive system 😂😂
it's even 150k ... what a shame
uhhm that's the 63S, so it's over 200 thousand €, around 300 with all good specs but the price has nothing to with the problem, they've done too many launches before as explained by Raz on his instagram @rokenr - you can even see there that the GT is faster then the other cars
It's a modern Mercedes... they're junk... the last good merc was the W211
@@JurgenDX the w211 is a really nice car. Wish I could have one
MEGATRON hmm perhaps however it would be nice to at least have a robust system for that kind of money.
Yianni's best ever dialogue "what porsche''
Yanny looks like he’s driving a truck in the Tesla 😂
ShoeandCar Lover Probably thought it was cyber truck!
No laurel
(Jk)
Next drag race, health kick for 2020, RUNNING the standing quarter mile between Matt and Yiannimize. Lets see who ate all the mince pies over Christmas
when it comes to breaking, the Porsche driver definitely has some timing issues or some very weak legs
No it is not becuse your a lier
@@arare7036 no he is teue
The way that bmw M8 picked up speed at 8:40 is so impressive. That car looks like so much fun. Im impressed by that big brute.
Did u see tesla?
@@lukabosnjak3829 bro... Tesla is Tesla... Elon Musk doesnt compare to any car producer from Europe... But BMW did very Good!
@@cristic8537 BMW are miles better then Tesla
@@lukabosnjak3829 That's Physics not Tesla
@#TeamCreativity Its Tesla, especially now with Plaid which would beat all of these cars up to their top speed and keep goding for more
992 turbo s will smoke them all...
The Problem with the AMG isn't the driver, It's the car, He Launched it a lot before the video, Which made that car and diff Exhausted, It needs to be cooled down, When its cooldowned, It can launch well,
That's the safety system.
@@zaydgani No, he is right.
Z.LORD you’re stupid
Z.LORD you must be dumb af mate
Z.Lord, i think you are the one that is stupid.
@@zaydgani Looks like you don't watch their Instagram Videos, Grow up, And learn Facts
Next up: Urus vs RSQ8 vs X5M vs Cayenne turbo s hybrid vs Bentayga speed vs G63
X6M*
Ahaha too many cars
Why?? You can't buy or pay them anyway🤣 keep on dreaming
@@JefRdam X5M isn't expensive
@@JefRdam Just because I can't afford these cars does not mean I can't enjoy watching the video if Matt ever makes that happened.
That Beemer is gorgeous.
The Mercedes , “ this task has been failed successfully “
That M8🔥🔥🔥!
The M8 is a beast. Fanboy here, and I am really loving it.
I too
Awe my fellow south african
@@duzisparkz Ekse 🙌
BEAST MODE!!
Sthembiso Lebuso bmw is shit 💩💩 from Russia Kaliningrad
Yes, we fanboys do love the BMW
@Veikka S It's a common name here like john or michael in the west
@@ghost37666 do you mean john and michael are common name in the usa
UnPocoLoco_ Mirekou Of course they are?
Ikr I had high hopes for the m8
UnPocoLoco_ Mirekou Mohamed is most common name in the UK
Is nobody really gonna talk about that Porsche catching up to yianni while he was sad
M8 is my dream car.
Can’t wait to go back to sleep 🥴
Ricky Ov Godz I like the i8
I like a lot the BMW M8 because It seems a V8 i8 to me
@@xxxxxtrxxx13 I feel the same! I always loved the looks of the i8 but wish it had a more lively engine. I always imagined the i8, but with the e60 m5 v10 inside! now that would be the dream.
Ricky mine is the dodge demon. And why does carwow never race most American muscle cars?
@@migsy1717 Maybe with more reliability, but 100% Agreed. It would be the true BMW Supercar.
OMG that M8 😍
Holy mother of God, I actually did not expect that from the BMW. What a beast!!
Shes a heavy girl but quick;)
Still loses to my Tesla 😂
Joker what tesla do u have?
Joker Nice dreaming about something you can’t afford😂
@@Joker-fx6mh Dude M8 won tesla didnt you see
The Mercedes driver does not know how to accelerate well
No one:
Matt: “That tesla is gone!!”
my brain: *says it in his voice...
@@tomforrest7814 Yeah actually
That phrase belongs to Yiani
That M8 is just blistering 😱
Joshua Ludick just a pity it only looks better than the Tesla.
||||upjidasoid I think it’s quite good looking actually
Joshua Ludick too bad it looks boring
Yes and when you're last with an 11.4s 1/4 mile, that tells you how fast the group was. A friend of mine had a modified ZX7 back in the day and it did 11.2s, lol!
But the merc won though it beat the m8 in comfort mode and brake test. It won 2 bmw won 1, Audi won 1
Matt: What about the porsche I wasn't even watching
Yanni: What porsche?
Everyone: There was a porsche?
... it has -200hp
Thanos Obama It didn’t do too bad tbh
😬
@@mydickisunbelievablysmallb8132 I know, Porsches are so underrated
I legitimately forgot there was a Porsche in the race
2:04 best moment reaction from Yianni L0L
The M8 is a beast!!!
yee!
Merc still better just by having more seats and more options in the software.
UPBeats its not
@@ThatLoudLad mercs are for old ladies 🤫🤭
UPBeats wait for the m8 gran coupe competition
M8 competition pack ❤️
Well, the 911 is impressive for just a carrera s. Love the v10 na!
Was also 30 to 50 grand less than just about everything else there.
@@L8ugh1ngm8n1 yeah i wonder why
@@Petrik_33 Because it's got less hp and torque? Still kept up with them tho
Most impressive car there when you look at stats on paper.
L8ugh1ngm8n1 I bet it’s closer than that depending on if it was optioned with the leather air vents 😂
3:57 for the race
Also, Mat Watson looks exactly like Jeffrey Donovan.
Damn that BMW looks sick
You Misspelled *Sexy Af*
AMG GT63s reaction time of the driver is shit look 7:13 AMG is always better than BMW and you can see A45 AMG VS bmw the new one and the better and fair race is AMG GT63s vsM8 grand coupe and we will see who wins?
Bmw looks sexy af
@@radwanbadarne3104 Let's not go into the *Fact* that the Mercedes is *Already* having problems.
Let's hope he has a warranty and return its. 🤦♂️
@@davidlegkodukh6969 In one of the previous Carwow videos the M5 competition broke down.
That m8 is a monster from a roll man
I can't believe he said Tesla gang 😂😂😂
That M8 is an absolute BEAST ! I love it.
I become more and more of a BMW fanboy every year that passes lol
I had a feeling the real M car, the M8 would be a beast!
?
When the 992 Turbo s will be release: I’m about to end this man’s whole career
991.2 would be right there with the R8
That thing will be knarly
When the tesla roadster will be released: I'm about to end the 992 Turbo s his carreer before it even started
Alex Roth the 911 turbo s trashes the r8 it can out drag the lambo hurracan and aventador so no need for the gt2 to drag the audi
@@hidde44 Im waiting for it also... but there is nothing like the sound of a v8 or v10.. The tesla will be silent but Im sure very fun to drive.
The AMG 4-matic system beats nature: it can die more than once.
Porsche 911 Evolution (1963-2018)
th-cam.com/video/0qXN665pYNs/w-d-xo.html
M8 what a beautiful car 😍😍😍
That M8 is a serious beast, it impressed me the most.
And looks the best!
Avishkar Singh That R8 looks the best
@@sonnyblack0870 no way, at least the M8 has quad tailpipes
Avishkar Singh Well I’ll definitely give you that, Audi’s tailpipe game sucks lately, but the only thing the M8 has over the R8 is the advantage of being a new design.
bruh fanboy audi won. you cant say that the m8 is the best
M5 comp vs m8 comp let’s see how far they have come
M5 should be the better one.
doubt it but thats why we want to see the race
@@hassanayoub175 race has been done already by someone else m5 won
The m5 always does an 11.1 on here.. the m8 just did an 11.0 so there's your answer.
@AM G or are you the disabled one that doesnt understand you will always get inconsistent reaults in inconsistent UK weather, thats the whole point real world results in the real world by real people. Not in press cars by drivers picked by the manufacturer.
The editor was having a field day with the edits😂😂
Another great video! Always entertaining and interesting! 👌 You don't do anything wrong with any of the cars! But the M8 Competition is awesome! 😁
I can actually see that you are a BMW fan from your profile picture
@@raysew2166 cool story bro👍
@@raysew2166 Definitely! 😉
@@mihralidemir6665 me as well i am a BMW fan cause my dad bought a M5 competition and it is fast M power is the best
@@raysew2166 I agree with you! Bimmers are so crazy fast. Even the M5 comp destroyed the amg gt 63s. 👍
"Competition" for life💫
Where are the M8 fans ❤️
Edit: keep reading comments bmw fans all over. Whe are a big gang brothers. #BMWFORLIFE
Here
///M POWER
Ditlind Roci Ahh Haa Here I am 😊
BMW M8 ❤️❤️
Love the gran coupe
Mee
Holy s*it. The BMW M8 is a weapon
BCM that M8 came to haul ass
That car ist perfekt
BMW good 😍
It looks soo good too
but audi is faster lmao😂😂😂😂
I'm so proud of the BMW... teary eyed.
It's also the cheaper German top-tier car too!!
I've heard that they really appreciate your support.
GamingWiffJohn there is a reason for that the interior is just not top tier.
Deserted Danzo it's just my opinion bro, Audi and mercy are miles ahead in quality and design.
10:55 if that was the 911 Turbo S it will be a different story
Raz I think I know how the 4matic system didn’t work u prob have to warm up the tires
Love the R8! Would totally have a convertible one!
God I love those M8 wheels
I'd love to see how the model s compares to the model x
They know it would outrun everything they throw at it
Matt no there’s been many cars that can beat a model s. Electric cars tend to slow down after hitting the 100mph mark
Matt only in a 1/4 mile race, plenty of cars will smoke it in a standing mile race.
@@David-jh8mp And when was the last time Carwow did regular standing miles, eh?
As the man said... They know the Model S Raven would smash everything they throw at it... They would have to (and actually have done) invent different parameters in order to make the video interesting!
the model s would destroy the model x
When yanny said that m8 is no joke the fanboys must love that car: I felt that Mfans💙 thanks for the likes guys
I heard "families must love that car" 😂
@@prometheus9443 Lol
The M8 is just marvelous
Amg gt63 s reaction time of the driver is shit 7:13
@@nathanlee4262 right
3:56 Is actually when they start the drag race
Bran the real MVP
Thank you
Thank you, why is this not the top comment?
Guys who knows what song yianny was humming the same song carwow is using at the title... It sounds juicy put me on someone please🙏😂
katlego nkwe bbno$, y2k - La la la 👊🏻
yianni was hilarious in this one loved the editing
3:59 when the race starts.
Ok thanks
Ok bye
Tha real MVP
911 Carrera S: they bullying me
Porsche: 911 Turbos S has 650hp
will still loose to M8 regardless
Angel Reborn no it wont
Whell, guess how much that Turbo s will cost? $273K .. In that league, you should run it against McLaren, Ferrari and Lamborghini
The BMW has the best value for money in this group review
@@ali-tal The porsche 911 Turbo S is 131k gbp which is only a few thousand more than the m8 and tesla but less than the Merc and Audi
David Przystal No it’s not!! The new 911 Turbo S (992) start price is 203 USD = 166 GBP
Ahh the days when Yianni knew the stats
Just image the Porsche being the turbo s...
911 turbo S did a quarter mile in 10.3 seconds. so if it’s a turbo S will surely be the winner.
Exactly 😴
Archer Eastemason the 992 Turbo S did 10.1 sec actually
What Porsche?
Oraclemtx I mean the Turbo S is the king of drag races on CarWow channel, So long live Porsche !!
Bmw always pulling in rolling races🔥
Other cars - vroom vroom, SKRRT SKRRT
Tesla - *REEEEEEeEeeEeeEeeEeEeEeeEeEeEeeEr*
oh fuc
Even your reeeeee is louder than the actual Tesla
Actually it’s
Tesla-
😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
That R8 is vicious!😍
BMW driver was not trained to race😢
BMW m8 competition is really a competitive for other car
Beat by r8
@@porschet5898 lol omg dude you replied to every comment saying the M8 was good. Who hurt you boy
@@porschet5898 Yeah but the R8 weighs 400kg less than the M8. So considering that the BMW could keep up with the R8, its definitely the better car. Imagine stripping a bmw lol it would destroy anything
Iquifxy M5 destroyed rs6 on this chamber btw ;) it was the best , rs6 vs M5 vs panamera vs e63 ;)
Imran Syafi lol you as well replying to Audi comments toxic bmw fan boy
The M8 looks soooo sexy!
Yeah man. M8 is killer and best among the lot.
Frfr for the launch the m5 would jump them all and for the roll m8 just killed them #BEAMER POWER
Damn the m8 💔😍😍😍
Looks sick. It is my dream sports car. The m8 competition is a good looking beast .
Need same race but with Panamera and model S plaid instead👀
the driver of the Mercedes is sleeping .. he left after 2 seconds on the spot
Ne seri
Exactly
He ruins the car
the driver is really stupid
is not a pilot 😑
BMW M8 IS A MONSTER
Osama Sinan yeah, just as ugly. Or even worse
@@azertyytreza8947 looks are subjective. For example, I think the amg looks like an ugly panamera knock-off.
azerty ytreza and u too broke to afford it either way.
Yeah m8 is beastt
azerty ytreza what you been smoking?
Pls do a drag of m8 competition vs r8 v10
Matt: I’ve just wanted sport cars really
*family model X on drag race*
That BMW m8 competition launches like a BEAST. I want to see m5 competition vs m8 competition. Come on Carwow make it happen
husseen k that would be a sick race!
husseen k That surely would be a great race. But I reckon the M5 would take the W.
M8 is a dissapointment
John Connor ure an idiot, 2nd car there and beats the Merc also and you say its disappointing ffs