Asking a Dwemer Why They Disappeared In Skyrim

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  • Dialogue interaction with Sodrys Tavragch, a Dwemer the Dragonborn may encounter in Attribution's Share during the WIP Skyrim mod Shadow of Mereth, voiced by ElevenLabs
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  • @IpfxTwin
    @IpfxTwin ปีที่แล้ว +2488

    A mod that is not only lore friendly, well voiced, refreshing, and provides a very likely answer to what happened. This is fantastic!

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +99

      this is actually just a very small part of my mod too :) Interacting with her is when you learn about opening Dwemer Artifact Vaults left behind by ancient Dwemer Explorers while you traverse Boethia's Realm

    • @samuelsun3560
      @samuelsun3560 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      its not lore friendly... as we do not know if any Dwemer actually exist other than the one in Morrowind

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +112

      @@samuelsun3560 You don't know. Not, "there isn't."

    • @MortSalazar
      @MortSalazar ปีที่แล้ว +105

      ​@Samuel Sun Something lore "unfriendly" would defy the lore
      This doesn't defy the lore, it speculates it
      According to official lore dwemer who were in other realms didn't vanish with the rest
      So according to rules and precedence set by the lore it's very possible that there are dwemer left in existence as long as they were in another realm when Kagrenac did his thing
      And since we don't have an official list of every single dwemer in existence on hand - the lore doesn't state there aren't more dwemer left.
      Thus rendering this mod lore friendly, or at least this scene
      You boob

    • @motusan3414
      @motusan3414 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      - lore friendly
      - dwemer itself
      No way

  • @saberwolf181alpha6
    @saberwolf181alpha6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    When faced with such a realization when receiving divinity, Talos answered:”therefore I am” and the Dwemer answered:”therefore I am not”

    • @deadsoul7409
      @deadsoul7409 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You have to consider Tiber septim was a dragonborne like miraak before he was arrogant, hotheaded and ambitious due to his dragon blood and the philosophy it come with it. The dwemer yes had some of these treats but they believed in logic and that everything works by it even the gods ,magic and anu/padomay so the realization that world is but a dream was to much even for them

  • @rachdarastrix5251
    @rachdarastrix5251 ปีที่แล้ว +1189

    Dragonborn: "What's that weird thing on your head?"
    Sodrys: *Takes that personally*

    • @legonutzsmurf4067
      @legonutzsmurf4067 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      Dragonborn: (Still waiting for an answer.)

    • @albinoasesino
      @albinoasesino ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dragonborn: (Should I ever come here?)

    • @rachdarastrix5251
      @rachdarastrix5251 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@albinoasesino
      Random Ass NPC: "Never should have come here!" *ShasszzZingKt!*
      Dragonborn: (I deserved that one.)

    • @notveryartificial4486
      @notveryartificial4486 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@legonutzsmurf4067 I also want an answer now. What's that thing???

    • @ICCUWANSIUT
      @ICCUWANSIUT ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@notveryartificial4486 A gift from rhe Omnissiah.

  • @Lyndonmaman
    @Lyndonmaman ปีที่แล้ว +606

    Translation for those who don't speak Dwemeri, aka Nerdish.
    The process of ascending past mortality, or CHIM, is achieved by two things. First, knowing that all of the Aurbis, the universe of TES, is nothing but the dream of a being called the Godhead. Second, one must have the personal fortitude, some might call it arrogance, to believe in spite of this knowledge that they, despite being a part of the dream, *_do_* actually exist as a real and seperate individual. Once these two seemingly irreconcilable facts are understood, one achieves complete power within the dream. Only two known individuals ever accomplished this, and one of them was Vivec. Not the entire Tribunal, only Vivec.
    What Sodrys is saying is that when Kagrenac tapped the power of the Heart, he became aware of the true nature of the Aurbis, and because of the Dwemer's psychic link, they all learnt this information simultaneously. Being a people bound by the strictures of logic, they were unable to reconcile the knowledge that they didn't truely exist with an irrational belief that they did, so they stopped existing.

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +103

      completely perfect explanation :) also, it's only her opinion! she doesn't totally know either :D

    • @TheMaxyms
      @TheMaxyms ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Man thank you so much for the explanation. I red CHIM and Dream and Godhead everywhere here and I couldn’t understand shit, until now.

    • @GeorgeThoughts
      @GeorgeThoughts ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I love this. Basically, if you're in a dream you only gain true control (godhood) if you realise, acknowledge and accept that truth. It's like Lucid Dreaming, basically. The Dwemer realised it, but couldn't accept it.
      Edit: My personal understanding of this has changed a little further. I wonder if the Dwemer did achieve ascendancy by "understanding" that their real world was a dream. They were shown the truth of the Matrix. Trouble is, because they couldn't accept this they literally "willed" themselves out of existence with their newly obtained god powers, because their core belief was that they couldn't be in a dream, and thus it was so, they were no longer in the dream and therefore they disappeared from existence.
      To me, this explains why to achieve god powers you have to simultaneously know that the dream is the truth, and you have to accept it as truth to basically remain in existence.

    • @Lyndonmaman
      @Lyndonmaman ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@GeorgeThoughts That's not exactly true. You achieve power in the dream by knowing the truth and believing otherwise in spite of it simultaneously. It's basically the metaphysical equivalent of plugging ones ears and going 'lalalala I can't hear you.' The Dwemer were bound by logic and so they didn't have any choice _but_ to accept the truth when presented with irrefutable proof of it.

    • @alexandervanslooten5016
      @alexandervanslooten5016 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@Lyndonmaman Except it is not plugging one's ears. It is hearing and even listening to the tune, but still believing it is not there. The inverse is a better metaphor. It is knowing there is no sound, but still believing that it is there. If one believes it is there, one manifests it into existence. If one is able to manifest it into existence, one is able to form, transform and transcend its existence. Now, apply this to one's own existence and one can transcend one's own existence, thereby gaining immortality.

  • @natetaylor9002
    @natetaylor9002 ปีที่แล้ว +430

    I remember reading that love (even a selfish love) was required to achieve CHIM..... Something about stepping outside of reality and seeing that you don't exist = zero sum result.....unless you loved enough (lived for more than yourself) that you could will your persistence even though you don't exist.
    It's how Talos did it, anyway.....and I guess the Dwemer were too logical (impartial/detached) for their own good!

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +42

      exactly! :)

    • @Zebulization
      @Zebulization ปีที่แล้ว +22

      idk, I get the feeling that Vivec lived only for himself but he was pushed into chim by using the tools. Instead of changing the globe like Talos did, Vivec rewrote history so that he had always been a god. Vivec probably: 'I was always a god, I just forgot. Walloping the Heart of Lorcan with this hammer merely reminded me.'

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@Zebulization a very good point and a very big part of the writing in the mod, this is just the opinion of one person, who wasn’t even there when it happened :)

    • @Jules-69lol
      @Jules-69lol ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was never loved as much as i loved so it's gonna be fucking easy to achieve CHIM

    • @curvingfyre6810
      @curvingfyre6810 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@Zebulization Vivec's love was for himself. Chim requires strong emotion and attachment, a fuel of passion to reconnect with the dream after waking, to dream yourself into existence, and with you, many other things should you so will it. In the case of the living tribunal, their love was mostly selfish. Literal arrogance, to look in the face of unreality and proclaim in spite that you live nonetheless. Or perhaps moreso than pride, it was spite itself. To deny not out of care for oneself, but hatred of the original spirit. To make one's very essence out of insult to existing divinity. Perhaps a cocktail of both. Gods or not, the tribunal were still mortals, and mortal minds, believe it or not, are far more complex than those of gods. Gods have but one domain of authority, and one realm to rule, where mortals oversee interconnected lives, and might walk in any land they please.

  • @soldierinsane2689
    @soldierinsane2689 ปีที่แล้ว +1418

    The Dwemer logically came to the conclusion of the dream, when asked to believe in the lie they chose logic and truth. This led to their undoing, the Dwemer mocked divinity while seeking to harvest its power and thus they were forced to choose between believing or not

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +149

      every time I see someone understand I smile haha :) this is my favorite franchise ever, so it's so refreshing seeing everyone know what's up :D

    • @badnewsforya-
      @badnewsforya- ปีที่แล้ว +16

      what dream? could you explain more?

    • @fleastar1015
      @fleastar1015 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      ​@@badnewsforya- It's been said that the entire Aurbis(The Existing Universe o the elder scrolls and all it contains is a dream, dreamed by the Creator, and all happens in his mind

    • @mrshadow4007
      @mrshadow4007 ปีที่แล้ว +178

      ​@@badnewsforya-Reality in Elder Scrolls is just a Dream. When you realise this you "Wake Up" and either become a god, like the Tribunal, or cease to exist because you believe you aren't a dream like the Dwemer.

    • @umbra6772
      @umbra6772 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They did not reach chim basically the godjead made them fade out?

  • @yannkam2127
    @yannkam2127 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    During the whole video I was like "I only wanted to ask why are you wearing the weird thing on your head"

  • @SekiberiusWelkesh
    @SekiberiusWelkesh ปีที่แล้ว +657

    It's actually a little scary how much that sounds like the actual voice actor.

    • @Loli_lover206
      @Loli_lover206 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sounds like which voice actor?

    • @dinodudedanny6324
      @dinodudedanny6324 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@Loli_lover206 Probably the female high elf voice actor from the game. I do agree it sounds almost identical.

    • @Loli_lover206
      @Loli_lover206 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@dinodudedanny6324 I thought it sounded really good too

    • @alexgutierrez1599
      @alexgutierrez1599 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I was thinking it was the voice actress for endive from chowder.

    • @inyour_wetdreams
      @inyour_wetdreams ปีที่แล้ว +40

      it's because it is the one from the game, Ai is pretty good now

  • @pandapancakes37
    @pandapancakes37 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Asking my father why he disappeared out of my life

  • @treesuschrist1782
    @treesuschrist1782 ปีที่แล้ว +309

    They were asked "does the dream still need the dreamer" and were found wanting. For all my technical complaints i have about the elder scrolls games, the lore really is something special.

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +27

      some of the most amazing writing ever written right out of kirkbride :)

    • @thebigenchilada678
      @thebigenchilada678 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Morrowind’s lore*

    • @treesuschrist1782
      @treesuschrist1782 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@thebigenchilada678 No, I said what I meant. While I do love Morrowinds lore in particular, I greatly enjoy lore from all the games. I think ESO and oblivion still have loads of tidbits that are wonderful additions to the overall lore.

    • @AnonEMus-cp2mn
      @AnonEMus-cp2mn ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Knowing nothing of the lore, that question instills an eerie sense of dread. I wonder if the question posed was literal to their reality, and answering it caused a metaphysical paradox. If the Dwemer sought to use the power of reality governed by something more than logic (a 'dream' that they did not believe in), then if in fact the dream doesn't need the dreamer they suddenly ceased to exist as a result? Rather than the dreamer waking up to the dream ending, the dream continues on and the dreamer ended.

    • @treesuschrist1782
      @treesuschrist1782 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@AnonEMus-cp2mn To a degree yes, you have it correct. Within the ES lore, it has its typical different pantheons of god, hero's, ect. But a slightly more "meta" bit of the lore is the concept of the "godhead", basically the dreamer, to the dream, with the dream being...everything. The worlds, dimensions, gods, and even the characters. When a part of the dream, be it the player characters or one of the many different NPC/written characters understands the understanding that the world is a dream, and that in reality, their own reality is not real, we usually see 1 of 2 outcomes. The first being what happened (or is assumed to have happened) to the dwemer, or dwarves. Which is called Zero Sum. Basically being blinked out of existence. Their cold hard logic being unable to cope with the idea that they are but a small part of a greater dream deep within the mind of an entity so far above them that there would be no hope of coming close, some also refer to this as "true ego death". The 2nd option is what is usually referred to as "CHIM", basically the individual being able to see the dream, and understand what it means, but then refuses the very reality, forcing the idea that regardless of the truth, they are real. While many see this as a defiant stand forcing their own ego over that of reality, it has also been interpreted (as this video applies) as the act of being so attached to aspects of the dream (in this case, loved ones, or a love for all) so powerful that it allows one to refuse the truth of the dream. Once one has both seen the dream, but through one manifestation or another has asserted that regardless of such they are still "real", they achieve chim. This usually entails a long list of powers that basically equate to godhood, if not more powerful then even that. One of the main providences in the game, Cyrodill, was once a vibrant jungle that was a danger for many. But after Tiber Spetim, both a king and worshiped as a god in universe, achieved chim, he not only turned the entire providence into lush rolling countryside ideal for an empire and farming in his own time, but completely rewrote the past of the entire province to that it was ALWAYS lush countryside, and not dangerous jungle. Thats the kinda power CHIM gives. While I know this was alot to read (if you even did) I hope it peeked your interest. The elder scrolls series has alot of lore just as interesting as this and i'd highly recommend it.

  • @Cousin-Eddy
    @Cousin-Eddy ปีที่แล้ว +175

    So, artificial trancension machine was activated in the heat of battle and an entire species failed the vibe check?

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Some people just can’t drink the tea

    • @grzegorzflorek5623
      @grzegorzflorek5623 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Lol, that's pretty Lore accurate description of what happened 😂

    • @Cousin-Eddy
      @Cousin-Eddy ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@grzegorzflorek5623 I was running around Skyrim and found the book talking about it just a little while ago. Rather interesting read.

    • @Arcane740
      @Arcane740 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Imagine you are in some crazy fucking battle with the Death Commandos from Dune, when your leader turns on the heart of an actual God. The first thing that happens is you find out, essentially, you are an NPC in a video game. You are then asked if you know you don't exist. If you cannot literally will yourself to stay material and say "I exist even though I don't ", everything about you down to the threads of your soul dissappear completely. This happened to all the Dwemer except one and a few ghosts

    • @Cousin-Eddy
      @Cousin-Eddy ปีที่แล้ว

      @Arcane740 Two Dwemer, but the interviewed one cannot confirm. As both were in separate realms.

  • @kenny6920
    @kenny6920 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    You've got funny words magic lady

  • @UtubeH8tr
    @UtubeH8tr ปีที่แล้ว +46

    So basically they believed so much into their own bullshit the heart allowed the tribunal to ascend simply because they felt they would over the dwemer logically rationalizing a way to.
    In simple terms the tribunal had the resolve to risk and sacrifice anything where the dwemer never would.
    The heart of lorkhan responds to heavy risk heavy reward mentality.
    Makes sense after hearing out daggoth's explanations;
    He believed soo hard into his own bullshit it became reality soo much so that the heart allowed daggoth to will himself back into existence as a physical phantom who was made aware of our world, the real world, the ones who made the game itself.
    Thus he was labeled a false dreamer.

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      haha thats certainly one way to put it, especially when put into context the composition of the tribunal

    • @Hello-lf1xs
      @Hello-lf1xs ปีที่แล้ว +2

      and afaik Corpus was him spreading his mind around the world - eventually being able to take control of the Dreamer, Ainu, becoming the Dreamer himself if theoretically left unchecked

  • @Andy-su5wg
    @Andy-su5wg ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Lorkhan gave love to his followers (the mer can kiss my butt with the whole being tricked, it's their fault if they can't enjoy the little things in life), the Dwemer understood so little about love that in the end, reality itself shattered them. Do you not understand why love is fundamental to achieve enlighment in all religions? Because it's the only force that is capable of keeping you alive in the face of oblivion, in the face of forces uncaring and beyond your understanding. That's the point, if you have nothing and care for nothing, you become nothing. A world of sociopaths, narcisists and greedy bastards, will burn itself into nothing.

    • @Zebulization
      @Zebulization ปีที่แล้ว +1

      err what about Vivec achieving chim? Is Vivec not a narcissist? I thought he only elevated and cared for the dunmer because he felt that they should be his to shape.

    • @Andy-su5wg
      @Andy-su5wg ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Zebulization Vivec LOVES himself.

    • @spooksy9212
      @spooksy9212 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      love is literally cringe and intellectual behemoths such as tesla or newton did well for both themselves and the world around them without ever having experienced it

    • @Andy-su5wg
      @Andy-su5wg ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@spooksy9212 Both of them had love for money and/or science and more likely for themselves, more than likely they also had people, things and ideas they loved. Love is key, to not feel love is to die in mediocrity.

    • @MrWongWey
      @MrWongWey ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ⁠@@Zebulization Vivec loved himself. The Dwemer literally have no concept of it. Despite what Lorkhan tried to achieve he and the rest of the species possessed no concept of love towards eachother or themselves. The only thing the Dwemer strived towards was progress and results. They were completely void of anything other than impartial, practical sadism in order to achieve their goals.

  • @Arcane740
    @Arcane740 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    That's pretty cool how she is acutely aware of the Question and Answer for Chim, but does not ask it out loud knowing she, and her race, can never answer it the way the Tribunal can. 10/10 attention to detail lore mod

    • @assortedmunchies9281
      @assortedmunchies9281 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the Question and Answer you refer to? Learning lore atm

    • @Arcane740
      @Arcane740 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@assortedmunchies9281 "Does the Dream still need the Dreamer?" (Since you are a part of the God Head's dream, are you independent, or a figmant?) And the answer is you refuse to disappear, even when confronted with absolute awareness of the fact you are not real at all (I am not real, but I am real, so I am real (Think Neo from the matrix power gain once he really sees the Matrix)). Otherwise your part of the dream wakes up and you cease to exist

    • @Arcane740
      @Arcane740 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @assortedmunchies9281 While they never outright say Who/What the God Head is, it could also be implied that the real-life writers/programmers/modders collectively make the God Head. That means that, when Vivec achieved Chim, he unlocked certain functions of the ES Construction Kit

    • @assortedmunchies9281
      @assortedmunchies9281 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Arcane740 So it's being implied that the universe is God Head's Dream?
      Also, I've seen it said that Vivec achieved CHIM, but the other two didn't? Also that him and Talos are the only mortals to achieve CHIM I believe? What's your take?

    • @Arcane740
      @Arcane740 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @assortedmunchies9281 Yeah, that all of the Elder Scrolls lore is a dream in some unfathomable beings head. The Elder Scrolls themselves are supposed to be pieces of the God Head's mind itself. The reason Vivec is the only one is because he is the wisdom aspect of Almsivi. Almalexia is focused on strength and power, where Sothas Sil focuses on Logic and knowledge. Not sure if either Alma or Sothas are aware, but both Vivec and Dagoth Ur came to the question and answered in a way that stopped them from Zero Sum
      Edit: Talos became so powerful that he touched the barrier and realized he was a figment. He just had the will to stay material

  • @AkiyamaKatsuko
    @AkiyamaKatsuko ปีที่แล้ว +75

    This mod is looking really good. I can't wait to see how it will turn out.

  • @dantobarbarian4842
    @dantobarbarian4842 ปีที่แล้ว +505

    So the dwemer could not handle being in a "dream" and being unreal so they disappeared? While those dunmer gods and talos were able to believe in the dream?

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +145

      basically, yes :)

    • @luckyabdurrahman1085
      @luckyabdurrahman1085 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      I always thought that zero summing wouldn't just erase you from existence, I thought it meant that you _never_ existed in the first place.

    • @walternelson2687
      @walternelson2687 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@luckyabdurrahman1085 That might be true in our own Reality, but the ruins, Falmer, and *piles of dust* say otherwise in the Elder Scrolls.

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@luckyabdurrahman1085 everyone thinks, but nobody really knows, not even her ;)

    • @Zebulization
      @Zebulization ปีที่แล้ว +42

      @@luckyabdurrahman1085 I kind of think that they not only failed to achieve chim, but that they didn't even fail properly. I suspect that they didn't zero sum, they were simply ejected from their universe during that moment. That is why history didn't forget them.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 ปีที่แล้ว +473

    Interesting. So the idea is that, because of the Dwemer pursuit of pure cold logic and their detachment, they were incapable of achieving CHIM and so, when the heart of Lorkhan went haywire, they just ceased to exist because of it.

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +73

      thats what she thinks at least :)

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 ปีที่แล้ว +94

      Some sources say that the elder scrolls universe is Anus dream and by archieving CHIM you basically realize this and become the dreamer, turning everything into a lucid dream. The thing is that you also have the ability to just wake up and appearently this is what the dwemer did. They just 'woke up' from the dream and left the universe.

    • @Zebulization
      @Zebulization ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@lightborn9071 I thought zero summing removed you from the timeline completely though? You never existed and no one remembers you. Since people remember the Dwemer, and their works still exist, is this a third option? Instead of achieving chim or zero summing they are just expelled from that universe?

    • @lightborn9071
      @lightborn9071 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@Zebulization No one knows for sure. The thing with the elder scrolls lore is that one can interpret almost anything in many different ways. I think it all could play a significant role.

    • @WintersFinalstand
      @WintersFinalstand ปีที่แล้ว +32

      It does make some sense though. Chim is the process where in the user attempts to realize reality. Normally, a individual can't face that they are a part of the Dreamer's world, they are figments. What Chim is, is the result of realizing this truth, and at the same time maintaining one's reality. To adhere to cold logic means to embrace that truth and through that, also forget what makes them alive. Their feelings are as real as their minds, and just as important in maintaining the Self. To face the Dreamer, the Chim-user needs to at once face reality that their thoughts and emotions at the products of the Dreamer, but at the same time not lose grasp that these thoughts and emotions come from them as well and define them. It's because of this failure to reconcile difference, thrust well before being ready into Chim, that the Dwemer failed. They literally erased themselves from all planes. Talos Succeeded however, maintaining himself whilst realizing the Dream, and this is why Cyrodil is a temperate place, not a hot jungle. He modified the dream, and even now so to speak, is a god. This is in essence, making him at once a Aedra, and not a Aedra. he is..more. On a level like Akatosh.

  • @Eddyforshort
    @Eddyforshort ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The background music is amazing, it really fits the mood.

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    @jooseppielleese7156 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THE MUSIC IS SO GREAT AND FITTING

  • @Aimee-mh2zu
    @Aimee-mh2zu ปีที่แล้ว +5

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    Good job

  • @carlborneke8641
    @carlborneke8641 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This really shows not only how absolutely amazing Elder Scrolls lore is but that it’s fanbase is equally amazing.

  • @Greasyheels
    @Greasyheels ปีที่แล้ว +13

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  • @whatifgaming1661
    @whatifgaming1661 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The amount of work you put into the dialouge here is unmatched by the many mods ive encountered over the years

  • @keller1808
    @keller1808 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh this is damn cool! I’m DEFINITELY downloading this mod when it comes out. Keep up the great work!

  • @BigChap117
    @BigChap117 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic work.

  • @absintheminded8466
    @absintheminded8466 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Knowing the kind of "question" CHIM requires an answer to means she was more than just "aware" of Kagranaks research- FASCINATING I can't wait for this mod : D

  • @doomsdaybro8290
    @doomsdaybro8290 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ElevenLabs being able to capture those subtle shifts in tone is what makes this especially trippy for me.

  • @KimberlyKjellberg
    @KimberlyKjellberg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking great!!

  • @Penultimeat
    @Penultimeat ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I wasn’t certain it was AI generated voice until the line breaks started standing out. Well done.

  • @altasilvapuer
    @altasilvapuer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That voice acting is amazing! Bravo!

  • @swegawsedfgaz78
    @swegawsedfgaz78 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    So the Dwemer are essentially the Cult Mechanicus from Warhammer 40k. I am Sold.

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Haha yup

    • @rexrex429
      @rexrex429 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say that the clockwork city is MUCH more similar to the mechanicus.

  • @WakkasLove
    @WakkasLove ปีที่แล้ว

    This looks really amazing. That was professional-grade voice acting!

  • @newbie6377
    @newbie6377 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is actually amazing

  • @boboST368
    @boboST368 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    good writing, love it

  • @MrBobxxl
    @MrBobxxl ปีที่แล้ว

    really well made.

  • @sunayocarissime5309
    @sunayocarissime5309 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I think this mod in general is the closest we'll ever get to understanding why the dwemer disappeared to begin with. You can see clues literally everywhere in Skyrim itself. Tonal architecture, the use of aetherium, certain soul gems having sound modifications that seem custom made to manipulate matter on those scales. What I find ironic is that logic and mathematics ended up being their Achilles heel in that regard. I can't wait for this mod to go live! Liked and subbed.🥰

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      shes actually just one character in a larger labyrinth of Boethia's realm :) I tried my best to stay as lore accurate as I could to the idea of a dwemer making their best guess at what happened, since ultimately she cant really know :D

    • @Watchmanskey
      @Watchmanskey ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In a universe where gods are scientifically proven to be real and has a tangible impact on the world, being an atheist is quite literally the most foolish thing you can do

    • @corvushoxton6471
      @corvushoxton6471 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Watchmanskey If I recall correctly, they weren't really atheist just thought they were better and could achieve the same divinity without the divine, but I could be off the mark on that or misremembering

    • @lazercat7725
      @lazercat7725 ปีที่แล้ว

      In Morrowind, there's a telvani wizard who, if you bring him this dwemer book to translate, will explain the dwemer destroyed themselves or were destroyed by the gods after trying to create a god of their own with their technology.

  • @LilPunKid
    @LilPunKid ปีที่แล้ว

    This dialogue is masterfully crafted. Very well written

  • @OakandIV
    @OakandIV ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I absolutely cannot wait for this mod. Looks epic!
    I really hope they hire Michael Kirkbride again at some point. He’s still working, and his ideas are a huge part of what made Morrowind unforgettable.

  • @eeyuup
    @eeyuup ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The dwemer kind of reminded me of a scene from Planescape: Torment where the main character is in a plane where thought affects reality. They can debate with a man and convince him that he doesn't exist, upon which the man promptly disappears. His arguments were just too good, and the man's nonexistance was the only logical conclusion. I feel like that's how it felt for the dwemer. Like "We have definite evidence that we're not real" They were too logical for their own good.

  • @natrielka
    @natrielka 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is actually incredible. It's so well-written, it's insane. The beautiful voice acting, hell, the imagination of this entirety, of the dream, is just... truly peak. I am floored.

  • @bread7932
    @bread7932 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's a far better explanation of what happened to them then any of the popular myths like being fused with the Numidium.

  • @JonnyCrackers
    @JonnyCrackers ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this was a real voice actor until I saw ElevenLabs in the description. Impressive.

  • @ewah25
    @ewah25 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This dialogue and voice acting is incredible... I gotta give this mod a try

  • @ArmenianGod2814
    @ArmenianGod2814 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, the voice acting and quality is very good.

    • @dragonace119
      @dragonace119 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Its AI, if you pay attention to the breaks it becomes more obvious.

    • @aartemiswhite
      @aartemiswhite ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dragonace119 It's still very good and only getting better as new models release. Mods like this is one reason i'm exited for AI.

    • @dragonace119
      @dragonace119 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aartemiswhite Same, makes getting decently voiced mods much more common which I'm all for.

  • @PinkRival-xt4em
    @PinkRival-xt4em ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing

  • @Fate_Bringer69
    @Fate_Bringer69 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool ass mod bro keep up the vids homie

  • @luukeksifrozenhillbillyeur3407
    @luukeksifrozenhillbillyeur3407 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was 1000x better than I was ever expecting.

  • @ardimento
    @ardimento ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Imagine big dwarven research mommy stepping on you with high tech metal boots 🥵🥵🥵

    • @chase1146
      @chase1146 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      my guy...

    • @jamescooley8099
      @jamescooley8099 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Seek Christ.

    • @bettaboi
      @bettaboi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bro really down bad

    • @Arronic
      @Arronic ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang these weird female comments
      When can Skyrim be less lady and more for everyone
      It's more than just hot females for goodness sake

    • @ardimento
      @ardimento ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@chase1146 call me a spelunker because I’m going for that deep cave musky dwemussy

  • @NYRDO_Official
    @NYRDO_Official ปีที่แล้ว +13

    That voice acting is phenomenal

    • @ctrdnaskelo2541
      @ctrdnaskelo2541 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      i'm pretty sure it's AI. Pay attention to intonation and weird pauses

  • @Kujo999
    @Kujo999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This voice acting is amazing.

  • @lolmanmagee2785
    @lolmanmagee2785 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very cool mod idea

  • @kuruk0115
    @kuruk0115 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Usually custom voice mods are very bad, but this is great and if I didn't know it was a mod I would definitely think this would have been part of the game, great work!

  • @syam8827
    @syam8827 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best voice acting I've seen in Skyrim modding I think

  • @KREDANS
    @KREDANS ปีที่แล้ว

    Ohh! This looks promising :D

  • @jebbthefool
    @jebbthefool ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love it. The way I always saw it, its a lucid dreamer effect. You either become a lucid dreamer or you "wake up". Once you know its a dream you only ever have those two options. It's funny though, both the Dwemer and the Chimer/Dunmer are races with egos. The Chimer/Dunmer's religious ego that led them to think themselves to be equal to the gods and the Dwemer's (intelligent) ego that led them to think themselves to be (potentially) better than the gods but it was the Dwemer's own (intelligent) ego that eventually led them to ultimately become Zero Summed.

  • @GuardDog42
    @GuardDog42 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the single best piece of writing and voice acting in any mod for any game that I've ever seen..........Holy shit

  • @toaster9922
    @toaster9922 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *I know how my people answered, even without knowing.*
    God bless whoever wrote this dialogue, that phrase stuck with me.

  • @Shiggy_
    @Shiggy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dam that’s exactly how I want Dwemer to sounds like. Well written too

  • @AliothAncalagon
    @AliothAncalagon ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Kinda genius.

  • @Stranded360
    @Stranded360 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NGL I thought this was no man's sky the whole time before I read the comments/description.

  • @dungeonsoulsdarkmaster7715
    @dungeonsoulsdarkmaster7715 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'll just remind you: TES world is in shape of the Wheel.
    And it's a dream.
    How long will the Wheel turn?
    How long the dreamer will sleep?
    What happens when he wakes up?
    What happened to Anu and Padamai?
    Or smth like that idk I'm not deep lore master.

  • @ryanlitalien4007
    @ryanlitalien4007 ปีที่แล้ว

    This would be amazing

  • @trevorphillips8734
    @trevorphillips8734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is exactly how I see them explaining this too lol, always thought that the panic for more power was what did them in. People think they’ve left to pursue something greater or found something, no, simply panic and want for power

    • @attackogaming
      @attackogaming  ปีที่แล้ว

      ego and fear are really big motivators :)

  • @vlastasusak5673
    @vlastasusak5673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lorkhan: You're aren't.
    Dwemer: Entirely logical. Bye

  • @heramaaroricon4738
    @heramaaroricon4738 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So, the Dwemer became aware of the Dream and decided to break the 4th wall and question existence itself which ultimately led to their downfall.
    That's like the rare moments when you become aware of your own dream during sleep (not speaking of lucid dreaming) and right the moment you reach that level of awareness, you wake up in your bed.

    • @bullethail3875
      @bullethail3875 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only thing about lucid dreams like that is that sometimes I've woken up and then chosen to go back to sleep, managing to pick up the dream where I left off. I wonder if there's ever been someone who almost zero sums and then just reverts to a state before Chim. Almost like a conscious defense mechanism of rejecting the truth and saving themselves.

    • @bullethail3875
      @bullethail3875 ปีที่แล้ว

      There'd be no way of knowing for sure in character because obviously they wouldn't remember the truth, otherwise they wouldn't have escaped their fate.

    • @grugmangaming5152
      @grugmangaming5152 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bullethail3875 I've had three dreams like this where I would be half lucid and the moment I reach lucidity, I feel so aware and something in my dream happens that it just erases it completely. I'm conscious that it happens, but every time I try to remember what was said or done, my brain actively fights back against it.
      One especially was a nightmare where I was talking about something ontological with a weird flesh moon and it said something that my brain actively scrubbed out the information that even though I woke up, I was unable to recall it as much as I tried thinking about it. It wasn't forgetting, I feel like I was actively blocking out information.
      Whatever it was, it was self defense indeed.

  • @Deadman1000
    @Deadman1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aw damn I didn't realize it was a mod I was thinking in all the time I played Skyrim, I missed this quest.

  • @TheImmortalBloodwolf
    @TheImmortalBloodwolf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My personal theory is that when kagronak struck the heart of lorkhan every single deep elf/dwemer the same exact thing happened to them as what happened to that mage during the college of winterhold side quest where are you receive keening except unlike the gem he used the heart of lorkhan could actually hold a soul, and 100% of the deep elf race was imprisoned within the heart of lorkhan. Then when some of its power seeped out into the surrounding rocks forming the heart stones that were later flung from Red mountain and ended up on solstheim at least some of the deep elves were transferred into the heart stones, which would explain why during the side quest line you can do for master nelloth that lets you join house telvani you can find a journal entry from somebody who has a heart stone embedded in her chest because she was neloth's test subject. The diary is split up into 3 books and in one of them she claims to be hearing the voices of the deep elves in her head, which would certainly be possible if some of them were within the heart stone embedded in her chest

  • @apolloisnotashirt
    @apolloisnotashirt 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Until next time."

  • @namelessiam7792
    @namelessiam7792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The idea of the dream has always been so cool to me, the realization of what reality really is leads to non - existence, but achieving a balance between living a lie and knowing the truth grants you all powerfulness in said lie, in which you are still ultimately obligated to live

  • @DigitalApex
    @DigitalApex 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine discovering your entire existence is basically a lie.
    "Like when the dream no longer needs the dreamer."

  • @dercooney
    @dercooney ปีที่แล้ว +3

    oh, oh - patricia tannis is a dwemer. i kinda dig it

  • @accalt6519
    @accalt6519 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought this was actually voiced until I read the discription

  • @AlmightyBshine
    @AlmightyBshine ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn that’s deep

  • @onionike4198
    @onionike4198 ปีที่แล้ว

    The voice acting is so good I thought it was part of the game I might have missed

  • @Furktato
    @Furktato ปีที่แล้ว

    Could use a bit more spacing between some of the lines but definetely one of the best voice acting I've heard from a mod

  • @hp7233
    @hp7233 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn. Whoever wrote the dialogue for this went to town with a thesaurus

  • @daudiochero
    @daudiochero ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dwemer + Morrowind... I'm sold!!!!

  • @grundgutigertv6170
    @grundgutigertv6170 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bet the broadcast was:
    Divide by zero

  • @L1Run
    @L1Run ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Reminds me of the blah blah blah by the Architect in the Matrix.

  • @Ata.TeaGargler
    @Ata.TeaGargler ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why is her voice acting so good?!

  • @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal
    @JamesMadisonsSpiritAnimal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They couldnt have zero summed or they wouldnt exist, ever. Skyrims quest with keening proves they became the flesh of the numedium.

  • @tsiitalwu311
    @tsiitalwu311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the new ambience ost

    • @ripper9489
      @ripper9489 ปีที่แล้ว

      any idea whether this ambience is added by the Shadow of Mereth mod itself or is it some separate mod?

    • @ripper9489
      @ripper9489 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh nevermind it's this one th-cam.com/channels/qtTN1goYUYHfrLDuvQBUZA.html

  • @altair91100
    @altair91100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    She sounds like someone of great intellect

  • @maunaowakea777
    @maunaowakea777 ปีที่แล้ว

    Little did we know that the skynet moment of chatGPT was going to come when they roleplayed a skyrim race of automatons.

  • @MrPeculiar.
    @MrPeculiar. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is like the sodium chloride thing all over again

  • @confused8425
    @confused8425 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dagoth Ur with his Reverse CHIM standing over in the corner.

  • @OkamiThunder
    @OkamiThunder ปีที่แล้ว

    cool fan theory I like it a lot.

  • @rodrigobarros6607
    @rodrigobarros6607 ปีที่แล้ว

    " This broke me, the uhhn. . . question thing and the Believe in The Lie part, that broke me I . . . I am done. "

  • @C1c4da
    @C1c4da ปีที่แล้ว

    eleven labs is going to change mods forever. It will be so easy for amateurs to voice their games!

  • @Interdacted
    @Interdacted ปีที่แล้ว

    I was hoping this might have been legit informational explanation summery of therefore knowledge of such instrumental harbegernry.

  • @darronlockett9211
    @darronlockett9211 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Oh, okay."

  • @PruTheWizard
    @PruTheWizard ปีที่แล้ว

    thats crazy the algo telling me to play skyrim again fr

  • @siyzerix
    @siyzerix ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, why can't we have more of these quests in skyrim. I'm tired of doing the same radiant quests. Well, I did mod it to be better, but would love to have these sorts of quests in skyrim.
    Can't wait to try the mod

  • @DarthSidian
    @DarthSidian ปีที่แล้ว

    That was ASTOUNDINGLY lore accurate.

  • @fradkiller
    @fradkiller ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like how the dwemer talk faster than regular npc suggesting higher intellect

  • @number1dstapp
    @number1dstapp ปีที่แล้ว

    the devs of skyrim need to add this as a side quest now!

  • @kingofbel6499
    @kingofbel6499 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What the hell, i didnt even know there was a mod like this

  • @159tony
    @159tony ปีที่แล้ว

    The lie is existence. It is a dream, dwemer understanding logic and reason alone, when confronted with this truth, accept it and "wake up" and disappeared from the dream.

  • @kernsanders3973
    @kernsanders3973 ปีที่แล้ว

    You know Day 1 of the mod being released, quite a few people will use other mods to score some dwemer slip slap