About 3 years ago a friend gave me his G25 for free when he upgraded... I’ve not touched a console since - I spend all my down time on AC ACC RF2 and AMS2! I’m not in a rush to upgrade tbh. I love my G25 - id sooner spend the £££ on upgrading the PC!
my dfgt has been working for over 8 years. ive heard something snapped inside a few times but it still works lmao. getting an uprgade to fanatec csw 2.5 this month :)
I've got a G29 brand new back in August (this year). What makes me glad about this specific kind of video is: it's awesome too see that Logitech has great build quality and longevity. As I live here in Brazil, I don't expect to change or upgrade it any time soon. We already know that Sim Racing is a very expensive hobby and here (in Brazil) is no different.
I got G920 last Christmas (boxing day sale actually) with the H shifter for £180 new from Curry's/PC world (UK). I have been playing Euro truck simulator and ACC a lot and it works great for me. I had a Logitech Driving Force when I had a PS3 which lasted and never broke. Seem to be well made, especially for the price. Sim Racing is quite expensive here in UK too, I can't afford a sim rig, have to use a table and office type chair.
@@ian260672 the g29 bolted to the kitchen table with the 46" right in front. The chair, well; Half the passenger seat from my 96 rav4, half office chair. Then add surround sound (rear speakers behind my head, mounted to the seat. Then add a tablet, or a smartphone, or both and SimDashboard is all I need.
Cara, nessa crise, os G25 anunciados em São Paulo partem de 800 reais, estando em condições lamentáveis. Tem gente cobrando 1600 em G27!!! Tá absurdo! Parabéns pela sua aquisição. É o que eu quero futuramente, para gravar para essa plataforma, umas corridas...
Mine is 14 years old, Bought at release. Frequently used and works like first day!! Solid rock!! Best entrance point for simracing, no doubt, and there are a ton of mods to improve it if you want.
@@thenuvolari9834 Replace the wheel with a bigger size one, add bigger paddle shifters; Lots of different mods for the pedals to be more realistic, like load cell, harder springs, etc... that will depend on your budget. The shifter can also be greatly improved with a simple mod from the guys at www.3drap.it/logi-mods/ Can also use one of the buttons of the shifter to build a hand break build in, so it will work for consoles. And probably many more that I am not aware of!!
@@gerardsitja Can i ask if your G25 gets hot over specific time of playing? Because mine gets hot/warm depends on what i drive, i havent notied it before and im getting worried.
The pedals are honestly in better condition than my g29 ones - screws are pretty rusted and the pedal faces themselves also have a spot here and there. I wonder if something changed along the years.
My dad found a G25 left for free on the street with a few old sims (Race 07) after I got a G920 for the Xbox One, and the pedals are so much better to use than the 920’s with its epically hard brick of a brake. I love that they’re compatible to the new wheel.
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it's a "simple" uncomplicated design with just "plaY" in mind ! ALL those extra buttons are going to falter eventually & you'll regret it. Yes i have a g920 But Only so i can play xb1, maybe i should hold on to this wheel.
using still g25 got it sinds 2006 and still using it now on my ps5 whit the drive hub adapter works as it should be no problems in my opinion still the best i dont need to upgrade
Very nice video, thank you. I have my G25 for 14 years... Never maintained it... works perfectly... I just had to use LUT files in Assetto Corsa for more realistic drifting. To build a cheap but satisfying racing sim it is perfect... I use my gaming laptop (1660ti) and a Quest2, and I am super happy for the price.
@@ligapersada4793 a 1660ti is comparable to a 1070 or a 2060 (without ray tracing and dlss)… MUCH more powerful than 1650ti. Except for MSFS2020/Assetto Corsa Competizione (while Assetto Corsa runs perfectly in full details)… Dirt Rally/ Project Cars (1 or 2)/ War thunder / X11 /Alyx/ etc. everything are working perfectly . I would NOT recommend it anymore, though, I have seen 3060 laptops at fair prices recently…
With my G27, I notice there is a huge difference in clarity between it and my friend's g29. The 'muddled' feeling you talk about is very present in these gear driven wheels over time. It's time for me to upgrade but I have no idea to what haha.
I have a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
Don't forget not only is it damn alright, it was cheaper than a g29 and 920 and those didn't get a shifter at all. Mine still works and I even prefer it to g920 in dirt rally 2.
I bought my g25 about 3-4 years ago and it still runs like new. It already had some signs of slight abuse but so far didn't need any maintenance. I've been thinking of upgrading to a newer wheel that's gonna happen I'm sure gonna keep this one.
The Driving Force wheels have always been some of the best low end wheels I started with a DFGT and moved to a G29 im now rocking a G Pro Wheel and all three wheels have worked perfect for me.
I used the G25 from the moment it came on the market until the beginning of this year. Now I use the Thrustmaster TS-PC and guess what. I still use that shifter and it still works flawlessly. Maybe it feels a bit cheap, but when it still works after all these years of abuse it must be good.
Doesn't really work for realism. If people want to get into drifting and have these wheels they should use the Tando Buddies car pack for Assetto Corsa.
Apparently getting the pedals to USB via a hack, and getting the shifter onto USB allows the wheels to be powered more and will help with the self steering. Within AC with C/M you can also increase the FFB which should help. Reducing the Wheel Rotation has helped folks in the past.
Ah good old days. I remember buying my g25 from eBay for £95 in 2007. And guess what, I am still using to this day!!! i do plan to update to a simucube 2 one day. But until then it will be g25 to give me my sim racing kicks.
Picked mine up about 7 years ago for £50. Had a broken reverse, dead pcb, fixed it and was going to flip it. Used it a few times and fell in love with it. Never bothered upgrading as it was cheap and just refuses to die!
@@WiThErZ666 i actually wonder how much of the g25 can be interchangeable with g920. could i install the pcb controller from 920 in to the g25 & it registers as a 920 ? Just a thought for myself if ever my 920 fails, my g25 is still brand new in box from 2008 or something.
@@OugaBoogaShockwave The wheel mounts are ever so slightly different. I bought a larger wheel and the 3D printed adapter I bought was ever so slightly too large for the wheel base. I ended up making one myself. However, when it comes to internals I think there hasn't been a ton of updates. I know these old G25's rattle about a fair bit in comparison to the new tech but overall there hasn't been a ton of internal refinement over the years. If you have got an 'as new' example of a G25 kicking about I, personally, would be reluctant to do and irreversible mods to it BUT what you say does sound like an interesting idea.
@@WiThErZ666 THX for the replies. i also had a g27 & you could buy off aliexpress the g27 main board for roughly $50-85 usd to change g25 to g27. The main differences with 25 & 27 are heli gears & 4 wheel buttons. Yeah pedals have some different sensor & "supposedly better "tight" shifter on 27 but that's bout it. Also you can convert g27 to 29/920 with it's main board which i think is a better upgrade then g25 to 27 cause of the 4 buttons that can be soldered on pcb. All in all i am just wondering WHY i have held on to this brand new g25 so long. if i can "cheaply" update the main board to a newer model like 920 & still use the g25 shifter & button mappings then i think it's a win ? Well, even if i don't do it i still have a spare pedals & shifter i can use. Should i sell the g25 ? don't think i'll use it much for ps3 or older PC titles, i feel like i am holding a gem & don't know how to go about. i was trying to sell the brand new g25 for $350 & all i get are low ball $200 & a few $250 canadian. No thx but the parts i think are worth more to me & it's BRAND NEW. sorry for long post 😥
Got one for right around 100€ in portugal a little over 4 years ago in second hand, apart from the smell it was like new.... Still using it to this day
I have owned the G25 since 2008. I have played for hours on rFactor, GT Legends, GTR2, R3E, Live For Speed, and now Assetto Corsa Competizione and sometimes Project Cars. I was able to test a direct drive and going back to the G25 is difficult: it seems weak, imprecise and lacks flexibility due to the gears. But I changed the power supply to go from 24 volts to 30 volts and it gives it a little boost (I improved the cooling of the electronics). I have reversed the pedals, made myself a magnetic paddle shift mod and I'm currently looking for the right compromise for the brake pedal 😊 Push it to the limits! When it will break, I would go on a direct drive 😎
@@randomcallsign I don't have pics but I can take some. But I don't have discord 😅 Anyway, it's not "clean", I mainly looked for the functionality, and it is 😉
This was my very first steering wheel and it was an amazing entry into simracing! This wheel is so much fun and I would even say more fun than back in the day way more expensive belt driven 'CSR Forza' wheel - any chance you'd do retro review of that wheel?
I use my g25 since 2006 regularly, it can easily be maintained. I only needed to fix my encoder once because it broke but today you can just 3d print one
The new intro is now something, you simply cannot change like that. G25 is so old, that I wouldn't even think about that when recommending my fellow young simracers, yet you reminded us all about that piece of great engineering.
Had one, want one again. Liked it more than any of it's successors. Probably nostalgic stuff, but that's the way I feel. After this I'll probably try and find a good one. It's kinda like with the old cars... :)
I wanted pedals and a shifter to pair my dfgt. But i got one of these for 100 euros, being cheaper than pedals plus shifter and adapters...been using it for a wheel and feels damn good for what it is! Cant beat the pric3
Just got a gamming laptop and dug out my G25 (last used on the ps3 five years ago). Seeing the same issue of paddle downshifting as you mentioned. Also unusable lag. In your video it seemed to do much better. Guess I need to look for ways to reduce lag. Thanks.
Bought mine yesterday used, and it feels like new, paid $100. Compared to my brothers g29 there's no difference, g29 makes slightly less noise but I think this is because of the old grease inside the g25. I just printed a steering wheel adapter and hooked on a real racing wheel. Now g25 feels much better than g29 and for about $300 less + I get a shifter with buttons + sequential gear option! They all looks the same on the inside, same motors, same structure. The software has been updated though and with 923 having trueforce, but there's almost no difference in driving feel.
The Driving Force Pro still has to be the best ultra-cheap wheel. 2 Of my friends got theirs for under $20! For a 900 degree wheel with force feedback that is pretty impressive
I had a driving force pro for 18€ and it was great! but my dad broke it because he got mad at me for playing too much on it and he felt bad so he got me a g27 I found for 170€
2024 (almost 2025) and I'm still using the G25 kit that I bought new when it first came out. I have a lot of variouse types of racing games and the one that still gives me the best "driving feel" is Race 07 - dirt cheap on Steam. Cheers
I recently upgraded my G25's brake pedal with the Axc-sim TrueBrake mod and it's made a real difference. I also added a SHH shiifter to the setup. So, I'm quite happy with my G25 for now.
Hi Mark, I'm looking to buy my first setup and also have my eyes on the SHH shifter. Didn't want too spend 190 euro for the TH8A, and the SHH is allot better priced and looks like it's build well. Can you recommend it ? And have you tried the sequential shifting ? planning to use that mostly.
The only real downside of the g25 is the plastic gears and a few less buttons which were upgraded to steel in the g27. Picked up my g27 in 2011 and been hammering on it ever since.
I have a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
tried to pick a g25 or g27 but in my country they are still expensive. like i found one for 170 while a brand new g29 is 270. meanwhile i found a g27 in perfect condition for 70 but that was in england so i can't get it shipped to me.don't think I'll pick one up just to save 100 bucks.
Found a G27 in a neighbours garbage pile just before the pandemic craziness happened which then led to a PC upgrade and a steam spending spree on racing sims (as well as a VR headset). An upgrade to a Fanatec is probably on the cards for next year!
This is a perfect video for me, thanks dude, sorry i don't know your first name.. But i have a driving force pro, that i guess was ps2 era, and used on my PC for GTR 2. Which i sim raced with back in the day on i think race sim central site, just for fun it was great. Im a old lad now 51, but i do have a pretty high spec PC thats only a year old, but i can play cod on full specs. I work hard look after my family and don't really do much of anything, except the odd full blown heavy metal concert..lol Im really thinking about getting a G25, just for a bit of fun again. i tried my old DFP on this pc with project cars 2 and it felt a little old. But a G25 just for fun now and then maybe the answer. Really wouldn't mind playing euro/american truck sim and assetto or Project cars and believe or not ive never played Forza, and the open world aspect of that looks cool. thanks for the video my friend, its just what i was looking for. That gets a sub and thumbs up from me, cheers...
I also still have my OG G25... Everything works. The only other wheel I've used is the newest Logitech for the Xbox one and it felt the sameish. Not sure if it's worth an upgrade.
I actually got a G25 for christmas couple of years back, my dad got it for £100, took it apart, fixed it up where needed, lubricated the mechanism, cleaned it properly inside and out, and it was practically good as new. my dad then got a G29 and to be honest, I prefer the G25. Not only for the looks, but the shifter is far better than the cheap piece of rubbish they charge upwards of £50 for with the newer wheels.
I received a G25 as a gift and it really grew on me. I’ve driven for about 500 hours in Assetto Corsa for the touge. Had so much fun learning about how to drift, how to much steering is needed. Essentially the G25 is the full package (except the handbrake of course). Sadly, turning the wheel very and going full lock in drifting quickly proved to be damaging the wheel and time really took its toll. The calibration went off centre and it couldn’t proper use the full 900° of rotation. Opened it up to find that optical encoder (small plastic piece) had broken into pieces.
@@ded_errorLess than 20€ with shipping (except if you live somewhere where shipping is more expensive), that's not so expensive. Moreover, it should be "liftime" warrantly because unbreakable 😉
@@ponponontheroad for me that’s quite expensive since my currency isn’t too strong but still getting one to sell the g25 since I’ve gotten myself a new wheel
I've had one for almost 2 years and bought it for 75 euros, only bummer I've had is the encoder wheel breaking a couple months in but after spending 15$ at a 3d printing company I got a new one printed and installed it pretty easily and I've been having a lot of fun with it since then. I have probably over 250 hours on Assetto (185 registered in steam but I did have a cracked version before so those hours aren't counted) and honestly I doubt the torque figures people say on the internet, with a lut file on Assetto you don't have to help the wheel countersteer at all and when you use DW or WDTS cars that have a pretty strong ffb, you actually have to fight the car pretty hard when you don't want the wheel to spin and after a 30 minutes sessions my arms start to hurt and I'm not a weak guy, like I don't work out or anything but I'm used to lift heavy stuff and things like that. Now I just passed the theoritical part of my driving licence which allows me to practice driving a car legally in order to pass the actual driving test in 3 months from now, and ever since I've started practicing (I had already started illegally before I had the theoritical pass but don't tell anyone) my dad (and myself tbh) has been surprised of how well I place the car on the road, how easy and naturally I switch gears and how well I manage my speed before and in the corners and how I apply steering input precisely and smoothly so I'd say the g25 and assetto combo might not be 1:1 to real life but it's realistic enough for you to apply your sim skills to real life, and I'll tell you more when I get my first car which hopefully will be rwd so I can test some skids. (don't tell my mom)
I have a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
After having my Logitec Momo force for a few months as a gift , I wanted something more , something a lot better , bough on a bargain the G27 was thrilled to use it ..after a 5 years of hard use the little plastic wheel on the encoder cracked and I was losing the center with vibrations , so I repaired it easy the same one plus I bough a brass encoder carved by laser keeping it still just in case..I still see no reason to change it , but I know someday I shall do upgrade ..
When I was buying my wheel in late 2014 I wanted a G25 just for the sequential option, but I ended up getting the G27 just because it was much easier to find instead of trying to hunt a 2nd hand one. I remember reviews at the time said that the G27 was exactly the same as the G25 internally but you say the newer Logitech wheels are smoother, whats your opinion on the difference between the G27 to the G25?
G25 is makes a lot of noise when turning , G27 has redesigned helix gearing for smoother turning and far less noise and 2 feedback motors , other than G27 has RPM led indicators and 4 more convenient buttons on the wheel it is just a very good upgrade of G25 , never understood why on the G27 they removed the sequential mode at the gear lever and later on G29 removed the whole lever and buy it extra ...
I have a G25 for sale. also a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
Wow didn't expect this video. I'm still using a G25 but have been longing for the csl elite upgrade. Just having some issues justifying 1000 euros for the wheelbase, steering wheel, lc pedals and shifter....
I have this wheel set and I can’t find a website to download the drivers to this Wilson so that I can set it up with my American truck simulator and pick up the controls do you have any recommendations because the logic tech website no longer carries any downloadable drivers for this particular unit by the way I’m using a Mac
Was that easy to do? I have a G920 where the mainboard has died (just out of warranty). The wheel still looks and feels like new, a shame to see it used as a door stop.
@@AL-nt3zy Yeah, not too bad. Look on XSimulator forums for a thread called DIY FFB Steering wheel (MMosFFB ) (In Progress). I've posted there recently, drop me a PM and I can send link to the bits you need)
If anyone is using any logitech based wheel (minus the new g923 and that) I would recommend searching for Rasmus P's fffb lut guide, it transformed my wheel and I can feel almost every bit of feedback from ac's ffb
You know damn well how it is here in Portugal. You see people selling used G25s for 170/190€ lol Bought my G29 with one month use for 170€ and I already thought I was paying a lot for it
i have a dfgt, i want to upgrade. Is the g25 worth? or beside pedals and sifter is pretty much the same? I guess the button layout is better because the new wheels copied the dfgt buttons
My G25 died after the warranty ended, but it worked great before that. Used the G25 pedals with a Microsoft FFB joystick for years. Now trying to decide between a G923 or an entry level Fanatec. Happy Holidays to all. Fair winds and following seas
I'm using windows 10, everything just fine unless the wheel. I'm wondering is there's any issue on the wheel or the window driver? I've noticed that my power led on the shifter seems to be "low" not so bright than the sequencial. Do you have the same on yours? Thanks a lot for your advices.
It seems I've found my issue...this is due the lack of my charger...seems I've lost it. Do you have any reference regarding this? Voltage, Amp? thanks !
So i was planning to sell my Thrusmaster tmx force feedback and buy the g25 should i do that? I wanted to buy it because i want to use the manual shifter.
hi ) i still playing with g25 after more than 12 years : ) but in last time i have problems with calibration after playing a few minuts the steering wheel dont return to the center restart the pc and return to the center again.
Hello, I want to experience sim racing but i m not capable of buying a brandnew sim racing devices/accessories. So very very old sim racing are my only hope. I want to know where can buy them. Where can i get old sim racing sets of logitech g25
it's good to have a wheel that works on older systems, and a sequential for stuff that dont read h-shifter. but it is a dumb how it won't work on ps4 and probably 5 and i guess one thing i wouldnt like about modern wheels are no button on the side. since i like having an ebrake button for drifting. unless someone made a wheel with ebrake, but i'm not going to be getting a new wheel any time soon.
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Is the Logitech G25 working in Iracing in 2023? I might pick one up in a few days, any help would be greatly appreciated.
About 3 years ago a friend gave me his G25 for free when he upgraded... I’ve not touched a console since - I spend all my down time on AC ACC RF2 and AMS2! I’m not in a rush to upgrade tbh. I love my G25 - id sooner spend the £££ on upgrading the PC!
Im still using my g25 for 10 years now, still works perfectly, ill upgrade eventually!!
no need to upgrade haha
@@AntonJokela Actually I do cos I can feel its busy dying so who knows when it finally gives in.
@@TheCamy99 i guess u are right. If had mine over ten years starting to show the age but always been fixable
my dfgt has been working for over 8 years. ive heard something snapped inside a few times but it still works lmao. getting an uprgade to fanatec csw 2.5 this month :)
Do you know about the steering limiter? 900' down to 200'?
I've got a G29 brand new back in August (this year). What makes me glad about this specific kind of video is: it's awesome too see that Logitech has great build quality and longevity. As I live here in Brazil, I don't expect to change or upgrade it any time soon. We already know that Sim Racing is a very expensive hobby and here (in Brazil) is no different.
Respirar nessa porra de país é caro
I got G920 last Christmas (boxing day sale actually) with the H shifter for £180 new from Curry's/PC world (UK). I have been playing Euro truck simulator and ACC a lot and it works great for me. I had a Logitech Driving Force when I had a PS3 which lasted and never broke. Seem to be well made, especially for the price. Sim Racing is quite expensive here in UK too, I can't afford a sim rig, have to use a table and office type chair.
g29 no Brasil é carinho viu. Pra mim rolou o g27, mas se soubesse desse câmbio com sequencial, tinha pegado era o g25 mesmo hahaha.
@@ian260672 the g29 bolted to the kitchen table with the 46" right in front. The chair, well; Half the passenger seat from my 96 rav4, half office chair. Then add surround sound (rear speakers behind my head, mounted to the seat. Then add a tablet, or a smartphone, or both and SimDashboard is all I need.
Cara, nessa crise, os G25 anunciados em São Paulo partem de 800 reais, estando em condições lamentáveis. Tem gente cobrando 1600 em G27!!!
Tá absurdo!
Parabéns pela sua aquisição. É o que eu quero futuramente, para gravar para essa plataforma, umas corridas...
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Mine is 14 years old, Bought at release. Frequently used and works like first day!! Solid rock!! Best entrance point for simracing, no doubt, and there are a ton of mods to improve it if you want.
What kinds of mods if I may ask?
@@thenuvolari9834 Replace the wheel with a bigger size one, add bigger paddle shifters; Lots of different mods for the pedals to be more realistic, like load cell, harder springs, etc... that will depend on your budget.
The shifter can also be greatly improved with a simple mod from the guys at www.3drap.it/logi-mods/
Can also use one of the buttons of the shifter to build a hand break build in, so it will work for consoles.
And probably many more that I am not aware of!!
@@gerardsitja is it good stock? i dont have budget to do mods
@@gerardsitja Can i ask if your G25 gets hot over specific time of playing? Because mine gets hot/warm depends on what i drive, i havent notied it before and im getting worried.
@@iHD01 its normal that why theres ventilation fins on the unit
I like the new style of intro. The larger space is showing its benefits.
The pedals are honestly in better condition than my g29 ones - screws are pretty rusted and the pedal faces themselves also have a spot here and there. I wonder if something changed along the years.
My dad found a G25 left for free on the street with a few old sims (Race 07) after I got a G920 for the Xbox One, and the pedals are so much better to use than the 920’s with its epically hard brick of a brake. I love that they’re compatible to the new wheel.
Hahahaha, loved your background "GamerMuscle should learn how to drive" lol
Video are getting better and better, i really love that
Thanks, that means a lot
G25/27 THE GOAT's. Im still using my G27. for almost 13 years now.
random callsign best for
Being real
Not repeating everything 5 times
Giving the type of information I'm looking for
Not being a passive aggressive snob
Thank you RC
Hey thanks ;D
I absolutely love the design of the wheel and the sound it make.
it's a "simple" uncomplicated design with just "plaY" in mind !
ALL those extra buttons are going to falter eventually & you'll regret it.
Yes i have a g920 But Only so i can play xb1, maybe i should hold on to this wheel.
@@OugaBoogaShockwave a third button will be cool with need for speed
using still g25 got it sinds 2006 and still using it now on my ps5 whit the drive hub adapter works as it should be no problems in my opinion still the best i dont need to upgrade
Did you know the g in g25 stands for Glorious
Very nice video, thank you.
I have my G25 for 14 years... Never maintained it... works perfectly... I just had to use LUT files in Assetto Corsa for more realistic drifting.
To build a cheap but satisfying racing sim it is perfect... I use my gaming laptop (1660ti) and a Quest2, and I am super happy for the price.
1660 ti laptop for vr? how many fps do you get?
@@ligapersada4793 a 1660ti is comparable to a 1070 or a 2060 (without ray tracing and dlss)… MUCH more powerful than 1650ti.
Except for MSFS2020/Assetto Corsa Competizione (while Assetto Corsa runs perfectly in full details)… Dirt Rally/ Project Cars (1 or 2)/ War thunder / X11 /Alyx/ etc. everything are working perfectly .
I would NOT recommend it anymore, though, I have seen 3060 laptops at fair prices recently…
With my G27, I notice there is a huge difference in clarity between it and my friend's g29. The 'muddled' feeling you talk about is very present in these gear driven wheels over time. It's time for me to upgrade but I have no idea to what haha.
100% T300rs, owned both g29 and the t300 and the difference in "smoothness" is way worth it
@@Dzejk86 I might be able to get a TS-PC racer used which might do the job
Hi is g27 still good ? I bought one used for around 170usd (RM700) . Im upgrading from logitech driving force gt
@@aizielarif9354 my g27 that was passed down from my uncle due to upgrading, feels smoother to me than his g920
I have a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
Don't forget not only is it damn alright, it was cheaper than a g29 and 920 and those didn't get a shifter at all. Mine still works and I even prefer it to g920 in dirt rally 2.
I bought my g25 about 3-4 years ago and it still runs like new. It already had some signs of slight abuse but so far didn't need any maintenance. I've been thinking of upgrading to a newer wheel that's gonna happen I'm sure gonna keep this one.
The Driving Force wheels have always been some of the best low end wheels I started with a DFGT and moved to a G29 im now rocking a G Pro Wheel and all three wheels have worked perfect for me.
I used the G25 from the moment it came on the market until the beginning of this year. Now I use the Thrustmaster TS-PC and guess what. I still use that shifter and it still works flawlessly. Maybe it feels a bit cheap, but when it still works after all these years of abuse it must be good.
Mine is 13 years old and it works like the first day :)
I still have my G25. I recently added the TrueBrake mod and it's breathed new life into this wheel and pedal set.
Just ordered the TrueBrake. Can't wait!
Just replaced my g25 was using it for the last year and a bit. Wanted to get into drifting so I swapped out for a ts-xs. Great wheel with a LUT.
Would you sell it?
G25 has steering rotation limiter for drifting. Did you you know you could limit the steering to 200 degrees??
Doesn't really work for realism. If people want to get into drifting and have these wheels they should use the Tando Buddies car pack for Assetto Corsa.
@@KersekGraff nah not tando buddies use either dwg or wdts
Apparently getting the pedals to USB via a hack, and getting the shifter onto USB allows the wheels to be powered more and will help with the self steering. Within AC with C/M you can also increase the FFB which should help. Reducing the Wheel Rotation has helped folks in the past.
Ah good old days. I remember buying my g25 from eBay for £95 in 2007. And guess what, I am still using to this day!!! i do plan to update to a simucube 2 one day. But until then it will be g25 to give me my sim racing kicks.
Picked mine up about 7 years ago for £50. Had a broken reverse, dead pcb, fixed it and was going to flip it. Used it a few times and fell in love with it. Never bothered upgrading as it was cheap and just refuses to die!
EXACTLY, these Old wheels are work horses & logitech doesn't like that any more.
They just want to sell you a new wheel every few yrs, NO THX.
@@OugaBoogaShockwave You said it brother!
@@WiThErZ666 i actually wonder how much of the g25 can be interchangeable with g920.
could i install the pcb controller from 920 in to the g25 & it registers as a 920 ?
Just a thought for myself if ever my 920 fails, my g25 is still brand new in box from 2008 or something.
@@OugaBoogaShockwave The wheel mounts are ever so slightly different. I bought a larger wheel and the 3D printed adapter I bought was ever so slightly too large for the wheel base. I ended up making one myself.
However, when it comes to internals I think there hasn't been a ton of updates. I know these old G25's rattle about a fair bit in comparison to the new tech but overall there hasn't been a ton of internal refinement over the years.
If you have got an 'as new' example of a G25 kicking about I, personally, would be reluctant to do and irreversible mods to it BUT what you say does sound like an interesting idea.
@@WiThErZ666 THX for the replies.
i also had a g27 & you could buy off aliexpress the g27 main board for roughly $50-85 usd to change g25 to g27.
The main differences with 25 & 27 are heli gears & 4 wheel buttons.
Yeah pedals have some different sensor & "supposedly better "tight" shifter on 27 but that's bout it.
Also you can convert g27 to 29/920 with it's main board which i think is a better upgrade then g25 to 27 cause of the 4 buttons that can be soldered on pcb.
All in all i am just wondering WHY i have held on to this brand new g25 so long.
if i can "cheaply" update the main board to a newer model like 920 & still use the g25 shifter & button mappings then i think it's a win ?
Well, even if i don't do it i still have a spare pedals & shifter i can use.
Should i sell the g25 ? don't think i'll use it much for ps3 or older PC titles, i feel like i am holding a gem & don't know how to go about.
i was trying to sell the brand new g25 for $350 & all i get are low ball $200 & a few $250 canadian. No thx but the parts i think are worth more to me & it's BRAND NEW.
sorry for long post 😥
i got two of the G25 wheels at the thrift store for $25 a piece :D great wheel to get you started down the rabbit hole of sim racing.
Got one for right around 100€ in portugal a little over 4 years ago in second hand, apart from the smell it was like new.... Still using it to this day
I use G25 since 2008 and it never broke. still working like new.
same but has under 100 hours of use :D
I have owned the G25 since 2008. I have played for hours on rFactor, GT Legends, GTR2, R3E, Live For Speed, and now Assetto Corsa Competizione and sometimes Project Cars.
I was able to test a direct drive and going back to the G25 is difficult: it seems weak, imprecise and lacks flexibility due to the gears.
But I changed the power supply to go from 24 volts to 30 volts and it gives it a little boost (I improved the cooling of the electronics).
I have reversed the pedals, made myself a magnetic paddle shift mod and I'm currently looking for the right compromise for the brake pedal 😊
Push it to the limits! When it will break, I would go on a direct drive 😎
do you have any pics of that? if so leave them on the discord. that looks cool
@@randomcallsign I don't have pics but I can take some. But I don't have discord 😅
Anyway, it's not "clean", I mainly looked for the functionality, and it is 😉
What power supply did you use?
This was my very first steering wheel and it was an amazing entry into simracing! This wheel is so much fun and I would even say more fun than back in the day way more expensive belt driven 'CSR Forza' wheel - any chance you'd do retro review of that wheel?
I use my g25 since 2006 regularly, it can easily be maintained. I only needed to fix my encoder once because it broke but today you can just 3d print one
There are also stainless steel and brass versions on Ebay. More expensive but "lifetime warrantly" 😊
Just bought this beast today....didn't regret a single bit....the force feedback does gave a lot to fight with...pretty spicy
The new intro is now something, you simply cannot change like that. G25 is so old, that I wouldn't even think about that when recommending my fellow young simracers, yet you reminded us all about that piece of great engineering.
Had one, want one again. Liked it more than any of it's successors. Probably nostalgic stuff, but that's the way I feel. After this I'll probably try and find a good one. It's kinda like with the old cars... :)
It may be lacking in features today, but imho it's one of the best looking sim wheels out there
I don't think it lacks anything except maybe a handbrake
IKR
I wanted pedals and a shifter to pair my dfgt. But i got one of these for 100 euros, being cheaper than pedals plus shifter and adapters...been using it for a wheel and feels damn good for what it is! Cant beat the pric3
Going down memory lane? I'm still using it!
Just got a gamming laptop and dug out my G25 (last used on the ps3 five years ago). Seeing the same issue of paddle downshifting as you mentioned.
Also unusable lag. In your video it seemed to do much better. Guess I need to look for ways to reduce lag. Thanks.
Bought mine yesterday used, and it feels like new, paid $100. Compared to my brothers g29 there's no difference, g29 makes slightly less noise but I think this is because of the old grease inside the g25. I just printed a steering wheel adapter and hooked on a real racing wheel. Now g25 feels much better than g29 and for about $300 less + I get a shifter with buttons + sequential gear option! They all looks the same on the inside, same motors, same structure. The software has been updated though and with 923 having trueforce, but there's almost no difference in driving feel.
The Driving Force Pro still has to be the best ultra-cheap wheel. 2 Of my friends got theirs for under $20! For a 900 degree wheel with force feedback that is pretty impressive
I had a driving force pro for 18€ and it was great! but my dad broke it because he got mad at me for playing too much on it and he felt bad so he got me a g27 I found for 170€
2024 (almost 2025) and I'm still using the G25 kit that I bought new when it first came out. I have a lot of variouse types of racing games and the one that still gives me the best "driving feel" is Race 07 - dirt cheap on Steam. Cheers
G25 is what you can call 'Real Force Feedback' entry level
G923 is such a small upgrade that it feel's like downgrade overall
Could you use a G25 shifter with a g920 ? I love the extra buttons and the sequential mode
Yes, as long as it is a logitech wheel, that is newer/like g25
I recently upgraded my G25's brake pedal with the Axc-sim TrueBrake mod and it's made a real difference. I also added a SHH shiifter to the setup. So, I'm quite happy with my G25 for now.
Hi Mark, I'm looking to buy my first setup and also have my eyes on the SHH shifter. Didn't want too spend 190 euro for the TH8A, and the SHH is allot better priced and looks like it's build well. Can you recommend it ? And have you tried the sequential shifting ? planning to use that mostly.
@@Pazaluz Yes, it's been good for me. I use mostly gated mode but the sequential mode felt good to me too.
@@markthibault8579 Great thanks ! Looking forward to try it out ^^
nice and honest review. still driving the g25 my right shifterpadle is sometimes cocky :p
That intro reminds me a lot of the 1st ever Linus Tech Tips intro!
I actually damaged the G25 wires inside the shifter that failed the 4th gear. but it was a simple repair. still using it now.
Logitech g25, a very solid product. Still have mine since around 15 years
I still got my G25 to this day, works wonders!
The only real downside of the g25 is the plastic gears and a few less buttons which were upgraded to steel in the g27. Picked up my g27 in 2011 and been hammering on it ever since.
I have a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
is that a keychron c1 you have is the background?
tried to pick a g25 or g27 but in my country they are still expensive. like i found one for 170 while a brand new g29 is 270. meanwhile i found a g27 in perfect condition for 70 but that was in england so i can't get it shipped to me.don't think I'll pick one up just to save 100 bucks.
Found a G27 in a neighbours garbage pile just before the pandemic craziness happened which then led to a PC upgrade and a steam spending spree on racing sims (as well as a VR headset). An upgrade to a Fanatec is probably on the cards for next year!
my G25 11 years old and working like a charm
This is a perfect video for me, thanks dude, sorry i don't know your first name..
But i have a driving force pro, that i guess was ps2 era, and used on my PC for GTR 2.
Which i sim raced with back in the day on i think race sim central site, just for fun it was great.
Im a old lad now 51, but i do have a pretty high spec PC thats only a year old, but i can play cod on full specs.
I work hard look after my family and don't really do much of anything, except the odd full blown heavy metal concert..lol
Im really thinking about getting a G25, just for a bit of fun again.
i tried my old DFP on this pc with project cars 2 and it felt a little old.
But a G25 just for fun now and then maybe the answer.
Really wouldn't mind playing euro/american truck sim and assetto or Project cars and believe or not ive never played Forza, and the open world aspect of that looks cool.
thanks for the video my friend, its just what i was looking for.
That gets a sub and thumbs up from me, cheers...
I have had one for two years now, but I will get a fanatec once
Can you connect a g25 shifter to a g29 wheel? I really want to have a proper sequental shifter and not use the pedals behind the wheel.
I still have one. I need to upgrade the spring in the shifter but, other than that, I'm happy with it.
I also still have my OG G25... Everything works.
The only other wheel I've used is the newest Logitech for the Xbox one and it felt the sameish.
Not sure if it's worth an upgrade.
How is the noise levels on that wheel? My mother sleeps next to my room and she's very sensitive to noises at night.
Hi, what is that Track Mod you are using in AC
I actually got a G25 for christmas couple of years back, my dad got it for £100, took it apart, fixed it up where needed, lubricated the mechanism, cleaned it properly inside and out, and it was practically good as new. my dad then got a G29 and to be honest, I prefer the G25. Not only for the looks, but the shifter is far better than the cheap piece of rubbish they charge upwards of £50 for with the newer wheels.
I received a G25 as a gift and it really grew on me. I’ve driven for about 500 hours in Assetto Corsa for the touge. Had so much fun learning about how to drift, how to much steering is needed. Essentially the G25 is the full package (except the handbrake of course). Sadly, turning the wheel very and going full lock in drifting quickly proved to be damaging the wheel and time really took its toll. The calibration went off centre and it couldn’t proper use the full 900° of rotation. Opened it up to find that optical encoder (small plastic piece) had broken into pieces.
You can find this encoder in stainless steel or brass on Ebay 😊
@@ponponontheroad yeah true, but exception is that it cost a good amount only for a small little piece. And the shipping cost :(
@@ded_errorLess than 20€ with shipping (except if you live somewhere where shipping is more expensive), that's not so expensive. Moreover, it should be "liftime" warrantly because unbreakable 😉
@@ponponontheroad for me that’s quite expensive since my currency isn’t too strong but still getting one to sell the g25 since I’ve gotten myself a new wheel
I've had one for almost 2 years and bought it for 75 euros, only bummer I've had is the encoder wheel breaking a couple months in but after spending 15$ at a 3d printing company I got a new one printed and installed it pretty easily and I've been having a lot of fun with it since then. I have probably over 250 hours on Assetto (185 registered in steam but I did have a cracked version before so those hours aren't counted) and honestly I doubt the torque figures people say on the internet, with a lut file on Assetto you don't have to help the wheel countersteer at all and when you use DW or WDTS cars that have a pretty strong ffb, you actually have to fight the car pretty hard when you don't want the wheel to spin and after a 30 minutes sessions my arms start to hurt and I'm not a weak guy, like I don't work out or anything but I'm used to lift heavy stuff and things like that.
Now I just passed the theoritical part of my driving licence which allows me to practice driving a car legally in order to pass the actual driving test in 3 months from now, and ever since I've started practicing (I had already started illegally before I had the theoritical pass but don't tell anyone) my dad (and myself tbh) has been surprised of how well I place the car on the road, how easy and naturally I switch gears and how well I manage my speed before and in the corners and how I apply steering input precisely and smoothly so I'd say the g25 and assetto combo might not be 1:1 to real life but it's realistic enough for you to apply your sim skills to real life, and I'll tell you more when I get my first car which hopefully will be rwd so I can test some skids. (don't tell my mom)
I have a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
where can i get the g25 gaming software for the wheels set
After having my Logitec Momo force for a few months as a gift , I wanted something more , something a lot better , bough on a bargain the G27 was thrilled to use it ..after a 5 years of hard use the little plastic wheel on the encoder cracked and I was losing the center with vibrations , so I repaired it easy the same one plus I bough a brass encoder carved by laser keeping it still just in case..I still see no reason to change it , but I know someday I shall do upgrade ..
When I was buying my wheel in late 2014 I wanted a G25 just for the sequential option, but I ended up getting the G27 just because it was much easier to find instead of trying to hunt a 2nd hand one. I remember reviews at the time said that the G27 was exactly the same as the G25 internally but you say the newer Logitech wheels are smoother, whats your opinion on the difference between the G27 to the G25?
If I'm not mistaken the g27 changed some things internally, they are not that loud
G25 is makes a lot of noise when turning , G27 has redesigned helix gearing for smoother turning and far less noise and 2 feedback motors , other than G27 has RPM led indicators and 4 more convenient buttons on the wheel it is just a very good upgrade of G25 , never understood why on the G27 they removed the sequential mode at the gear lever and later on G29 removed the whole lever and buy it extra ...
I have a G25 for sale. also a Logitech BUS for logitech pedals which are 8-bit. My 12-bit converter gives your pedals a resolution of 4096-steps instead of the Logitech Standard ... 256-steps. Throttle control especially on gravel an snow is NIGHT AND DAY!! we're talking several 100% increase in throttle control. Even on tarmac you can hold powerslides in Dirt Rally 2 for looooong corners. For drifting and even in Assetto CC this is awesome. I have one extra and want to sell it. I can also convert G25 shifters to work with G920 and the others. Comment here if u want more info.
@@theopot5798 according to some people, the sequential option broke a lot.
how can you get the profiler? I have a logitech driving force gt and can't find a oldprofiler.. can you leave a link please? :) awesome video btw!
Where's the driver you said you'll be showing where you can get it?
Can you link the download for the profiler? I'm having so much trouble getting it
Wow didn't expect this video. I'm still using a G25 but have been longing for the csl elite upgrade. Just having some issues justifying 1000 euros for the wheelbase, steering wheel, lc pedals and shifter....
I have this wheel set and I can’t find a website to download the drivers to this Wilson so that I can set it up with my American truck simulator and pick up the controls do you have any recommendations because the logic tech website no longer carries any downloadable drivers for this particular unit by the way I’m using a Mac
I have nice wheel thrustmaster t150 but I want one of these for a backup wheel where I can find one and what price it is
ah the G25 the wheel which started me down the very expensive sim racing hobby, I only just recently upgraded my G27 great wheels!
This wheel will stop functioning when it's the end of the world. The Nokia of steering wheels.
I've just resurrected my G25 with a STM32 board, BTS7960 and EMC firmware (the old electronics had died). This wheel is still good!
Was that easy to do? I have a G920 where the mainboard has died (just out of warranty). The wheel still looks and feels like new, a shame to see it used as a door stop.
@@AL-nt3zy Yeah, not too bad. Look on XSimulator forums for a thread called DIY FFB Steering wheel (MMosFFB ) (In Progress). I've posted there recently, drop me a PM and I can send link to the bits you need)
@@JoeKeaveney Thanks for the reply. How do I PM you? I looked on the Xsim site. Did not find the post.
@@AL-nt3zy Google it?
is it a good biginner weel?
using g25 in 2020, works great even in games like dirt rally 2.0
If anyone is using any logitech based wheel (minus the new g923 and that) I would recommend searching for Rasmus P's fffb lut guide, it transformed my wheel and I can feel almost every bit of feedback from ac's ffb
You know damn well how it is here in Portugal. You see people selling used G25s for 170/190€ lol
Bought my G29 with one month use for 170€ and I already thought I was paying a lot for it
Comprei uma g29 nova por 200€ com as mudanças incluídas na pcdiga, estava em desconto. Não me recordo se era Black Friday ou não, mas talvez fosse :D
i have a dfgt, i want to upgrade.
Is the g25 worth? or beside pedals and sifter is pretty much the same? I guess the button layout is better because the new wheels copied the dfgt buttons
how far does the wheel turn?
nice PC wallpaper
i still ask myself if it has a message behind it
mmmmm
what is RC trying to say?
Who knows
Short answer, yes.
Long answer, yeeeeeeessssss
Hi, just wondering if this wheelmworks fine with windows 10 as I have saw foru a saying that it doesn't
My G25 died after the warranty ended, but it worked great before that. Used the G25 pedals with a Microsoft FFB joystick for years. Now trying to decide between a G923 or an entry level Fanatec. Happy Holidays to all.
Fair winds and following seas
I'm using windows 10, everything just fine unless the wheel. I'm wondering is there's any issue on the wheel or the window driver? I've noticed that my power led on the shifter seems to be "low" not so bright than the sequencial. Do you have the same on yours? Thanks a lot for your advices.
It seems I've found my issue...this is due the lack of my charger...seems I've lost it. Do you have any reference regarding this? Voltage, Amp? thanks !
www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Charger-Logitech-Racing-ADP-18L
@@randomcallsign Thanks the link seems not to be working anymore
May I ask You man, soon I\m going to buy a wheel, what do You suggest (choosing between G25 and G29/g920) so what will You preffer for driving AC?
buy the newest one
where the fuck did you find the logitech profiler, ive been looking ages for my g27 because it doesnt want to work with assesto corsa at all.
So i was planning to sell my Thrusmaster tmx force feedback and buy the g25 should i do that? I wanted to buy it because i want to use the manual shifter.
no. keep the tmx and get a shifter
Really, don't do that, just buy a shifter
I'm still using it today!
hi ) i still playing with g25 after more than 12 years : ) but in last time i have problems with calibration after playing a few minuts the steering wheel dont return to the center restart the pc and return to the center again.
I just got s logitech g27. Can you please do a video on it
Hello, I want to experience sim racing but i m not capable of buying a brandnew sim racing devices/accessories. So very very old sim racing are my only hope. I want to know where can buy them. Where can i get old sim racing sets of logitech g25
ebay
@@randomcallsign Thank you so much. That is a great help.
@@randomcallsign It's Sad ebay has large shipping cost :(
Then try Amazon
Hey mate, I havr a g25 but my drivers fo not want to open even though it is installed.
Any ideas what it could be?
@@F1_degenerate windows 11.
Can wi plays this one with Ps4?
my g25 exploded, i bought a g27 since its the same thing with 4 more buttons and no sequential shifting but its newer so more lifespan
it's good to have a wheel that works on older systems, and a sequential for stuff that dont read h-shifter. but it is a dumb how it won't work on ps4 and probably 5
and i guess one thing i wouldnt like about modern wheels are no button on the side. since i like having an ebrake button for drifting. unless someone made a wheel with ebrake, but i'm not going to be getting a new wheel any time soon.