Woah! I loved this!...I picked up an August 38 with aluminium trigger (completely different to yours) I had an attempt at a restore and with the same spring is around 9.5 foot pounds....Im still busy working on the front sight position though
Loved your dissection! Have done it a lot and from the tension you show while opening, I can tell you that you definitely need a new spring. Only make sure to get a quality one and not a cheap Chinese. Then never seen a leader piston as dirty as this one with this much disintegration. I am pretty sure someone didn't know the right type, right way or port of oiling/greasing & pushed it the wrong way into the piston! And all the dirt you have in the inner barrel is also part of that oil residue, detached leader debris, and ignorance of prior user/users. Well glad it's in a good hand now and enjoy this beauty.
My father had this rifle hanging on the wall behind his bar in the seventies, I was dying to shoot it. One night they went out, so I snuck downstairs and loaded it, he had a yellow hard hat hanging on a nail in his workshop. I aimed at the hat and fired, the pellet hit the hard hat and came straight back hitting me in the middle of the forehead. I had a huge hole, he knew exactly what happened.😂
Since a few Days I own a Diana Mod 27 from 1951. Good condition for this age, but I ll replace a new Pistonseal and a Barrelseal too I think. Maybe the spring too, I ll see. Thanks for the Video and the first impression of the work on this airrifle. Greetings from germany.
Millard Brothers [Milbro] were a Scots family business dealing in out door pursuits paraphernalia, every thing from tennis balls to bell tents, fishing gear and guns to bicycles.Stores run by family members opened in Ireland and various English and Scottish cities. From the earliest days Milbro and Diana were very tight business partners. And whilst I have no written evidence to support the theory I am convinced that the sale of Diana to milbro as war reparations was a fixed deal. My evidence being the fact that both the Brits and the Germans shared development of products right up to the early 1980's when the diana brand name returned to Germany and the Scottish factory closed it's doors.Of course the Webley and Scot mark three was the one prewar Diana gun that Millard Brothers did not produce in fact neither milbro or diana resumed construction of the prewar Lincoln Jefferies pattern air rifles but instead opted to introduce a new underlever the model 50.whilst still vaguely following the Lincoln pattern this was a classy fully stocked airgun and remained in production for many years going through several upgrades. to collect all the different versions in both calibers would constitute a good sized collection in it's own right.I have owned many of these rifles over the years. properly set up they are great bits of kit either for target shooting or small game. As for the model twenty seven I own several post world war one 27's though not the first airgun I shot it was the first airgun I spent any serious time with belonging to my school friend Doug we spent many a happy hour shooting cans and rats with it. In the thirties Diana gave the 27 a face lift more a complete redesign following Haenels lead with a half stock break barrel actioned gun but no thumb operated barrel latch instead going for what I believe to be the first true two stage trigger unit.a contentious statement as several other companies had tried their hands with limited success the best effort almost a cartridge affair fitted to the Lanes musketeer and produced by the Greener company patent number 9644 way ahead of its time. What ever the model 27 was produced in huge numbers and are a relatively easy gun to find in any of it's formats. The first patterns often turn up with attractive stocks in walnut or birch.must say I have a soft spot for them and there will always be a place for one in my favorites cabinet.Remember all you chaps out there making new seals or refurbing old ones Neats foot oil is the stuff to use, avoid mineral oils as they tend to burn and various seed oils tend to coagulate and become sticky. neats foot oil can be purchased at any good saddlers or horse supply shop.also remember if you have a lathe you can turn a seal out of boot sole leather clamp the leather between two small pieces of ply with a nut and bolt place in chuck and turn to the correct size, there are several methods to obtain the seals inner depression for the screw or bolt or indeed rivet. Also remember soaking leather in oil will cause it to swell enough to prevent insertion into the cylinder. one final thought never try to turn pre soaked leather in a lathe.
Hi, Excellent video I have a Diana 27 similar to the one on your video. I lost sight of it for many ears and then one of my sons returned it to me wrapped in a blanket. However the piston, spring and spring follower were missing. I have managed to get a piston and follower from e-bay but there are so any variations of springs I am wondering if you know the right length for the model you stripped down. It looked to me that the spring you removed had been cut down i.e. not flat at the end. Did you ever find a proper spring for it. I noticed that when the spring was still in the gun that it was approximately half way along the trigger area. The one I have bought, supposedly the right one, reaches right to the end of the trigger area? If you have any information that would help I will be most grateful. Best regards Chris Daughton U.K.
Soaking that leather seal on motor oil is not a good idea should use non flamable oil besause of dieseling danger which could damage the gun or cause injury just a thought
Hi, I have a Diana Model 22. The action has been out of the stock for some years as it was given to me non working. I got round to getting it working eventually. However, when I got round to fitting the stock, I found that it had shrunk. This meant that the two screws holding the front of thr stock did not line up....... they are off by about 2mm. Any ideas? Excellent website by the way. Enjoyed watching you referb the Mod 27.
Aside from filing the holes in the stock into oval holes, I'm not sure what else I'd try. It's not like you can move the holes in the steel receiver. And moving the rear hole in the trigger guard would prevent the receiver cap from fitting properly. That's certainly a weird one, but I'm thinking you have to remove some wood.
Many thanks for your very prompt reply and suggestions. I was thinking along the same lines. Also thought I might plug the holes and redrill. It's a nostalgic trip really as my first gun at age 11 was an Original with a smooth bore barrel. I think it was otherwise the same gun. Now I'm 80😂 Greeting from the UK !
I have Diana model 35 made in Germany with plastic trigger can you please tell me how old it is it's still with original spring i bought this second hand 45 years back after so many years still in good condition only thing barrel is bend 3" from the breach
On a German-made Diana, a date code is often stamped on the receiver tube, usually above the trigger area. Not really a code, it marks the month and two digits of the year. A bent barrel typically means the trigger was pulled with the barrel open. This can be straightened by someone willing to make up the right jigs to support everything.
I've just watched your video on the Diana mod 27, I am refurbish one at the moment but I can't find a front trigger guard screw I dont suppose you know where I could buy one do you Alan
Lightweight pistons have been tried. There have even been titanium ones made. But one of the issues can be piston bounce when the piston comes back from the cushion of high pressure air it just made - and the pressure actually drops before the pellet gets going. Those who want to shoot heavier pellets sometimes use heavier pistons to stop that bounce. Most of my .177 rifles sound "weird" when I use the Barracuda 10 grain pellets. Velocity is poor and accuracy isn't great: piston bounce.
Seal fabrication was worth the viewing time, thanks!
Great job, really consistent velocity and will likely get even more so as the new seal beds in, thanks for showing everything.
Woah! I loved this!...I picked up an August 38 with aluminium trigger (completely different to yours) I had an attempt at a restore and with the same spring is around 9.5 foot pounds....Im still busy working on the front sight position though
Loved your dissection! Have done it a lot and from the tension you show while opening, I can tell you that you definitely need a new spring. Only make sure to get a quality one and not a cheap Chinese.
Then never seen a leader piston as dirty as this one with this much disintegration. I am pretty sure someone didn't know the right type, right way or port of oiling/greasing & pushed it the wrong way into the piston! And all the dirt you have in the inner barrel is also part of that oil residue, detached leader debris, and ignorance of prior user/users.
Well glad it's in a good hand now and enjoy this beauty.
My father had this rifle hanging on the wall behind his bar in the seventies, I was dying to shoot it. One night they went out, so I snuck downstairs and loaded it, he had a yellow hard hat hanging on a nail in his workshop. I aimed at the hat and fired, the pellet hit the hard hat and came straight back hitting me in the middle of the forehead. I had a huge hole, he knew exactly what happened.😂
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Yes they are not that powerful 😂😂
Since a few Days I own a Diana Mod 27 from 1951. Good condition for this age, but I ll replace a new Pistonseal and a Barrelseal too I think. Maybe the spring too, I ll see.
Thanks for the Video and the first impression of the work on this airrifle. Greetings from germany.
Wow that was reallly interesting how you make a diy lether seal, thx for this.
I do like my old dianas.
Great video........very instructive! 👍👍
Interesting little rifle, quite consistent too
Another excellent video!!
Great work!
Millard Brothers [Milbro] were a Scots family business dealing in out door pursuits paraphernalia, every thing from tennis balls to bell tents, fishing gear and guns to bicycles.Stores run by family members opened in Ireland and various English and Scottish cities. From the earliest days Milbro and Diana were very tight business partners. And whilst I have no written evidence to support the theory I am convinced that the sale of Diana to milbro as war reparations was a fixed deal. My evidence being the fact that both the Brits and the Germans shared development of products right up to the early 1980's when the diana brand name returned to Germany and the Scottish factory closed it's doors.Of course the Webley and Scot mark three was the one prewar Diana gun that Millard Brothers did not produce in fact neither milbro or diana resumed construction of the prewar Lincoln Jefferies pattern air rifles but instead opted to introduce a new underlever the model 50.whilst still vaguely following the Lincoln pattern this was a classy fully stocked airgun and remained in production for many years going through several upgrades. to collect all the different versions in both calibers would constitute a good sized collection in it's own right.I have owned many of these rifles over the years. properly set up they are great bits of kit either for target shooting or small game. As for the model twenty seven I own several post world war one 27's though not the first airgun I shot it was the first airgun I spent any serious time with belonging to my school friend Doug we spent many a happy hour shooting cans and rats with it.
In the thirties Diana gave the 27 a face lift more a complete redesign following Haenels lead with a half stock break barrel actioned gun but no thumb operated barrel latch instead going for what I believe to be the first true two stage trigger unit.a contentious statement as several other companies had tried their hands with limited success the best effort almost a cartridge affair fitted to the Lanes musketeer and produced by the Greener company patent number 9644 way ahead of its time. What ever the model 27 was produced in huge numbers and are a relatively easy gun to find in any of it's formats. The first patterns often turn up with attractive stocks in walnut or birch.must say I have a soft spot for them and there will always be a place for one in my favorites cabinet.Remember all you chaps out there making new seals or refurbing old ones Neats foot oil is the stuff to use, avoid mineral oils as they tend to burn and various seed oils tend to coagulate and become sticky. neats foot oil can be purchased at any good saddlers or horse supply shop.also remember if you have a lathe you can turn a seal out of boot sole leather clamp the leather between two small pieces of ply with a nut and bolt place in chuck and turn to the correct size, there are several methods to obtain the seals inner depression for the screw or bolt or indeed rivet. Also remember soaking leather in oil will cause it to swell enough to prevent insertion into the cylinder. one final thought never try to turn pre soaked leather in a lathe.
i would have put a new main spring in.. just a thought as the old one would be a little tired by now
Merci c'est très intéressant pour moi qui ai une diana 27 !!
Wouldn't do anything to the original finish on that rifle it's in lovely condition for its age
I had one of the Chinese guns! Paid $13.00 for it at an indoor flea market! 22 Cal. very accurate!
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Hi,
Excellent video
I have a Diana 27 similar to the one on your video. I lost sight of it for many ears and then one of my sons returned it to me wrapped in a blanket. However the piston, spring and spring follower were missing. I have managed to get a piston and follower from e-bay but there are so any variations of springs I am wondering if you know the right length for the model you stripped down. It looked to me that the spring you removed had been cut down i.e. not flat at the end. Did you ever find a proper spring for it. I noticed that when the spring was still in the gun that it was approximately half way along the trigger area. The one I have bought, supposedly the right one, reaches right to the end of the trigger area?
If you have any information that would help I will be most grateful.
Best regards
Chris Daughton
U.K.
Great I have one a bit older I think I used a brake cup seal and stead of leather and mine is in worse condition I've had it for almost 60yrs
I love my child hood gun ❤
A pity that the dificult part of assembling isn't shown......
Soaking that leather seal on motor oil is not a good idea should use non flamable oil besause of dieseling danger which could damage the gun or cause injury just a thought
Good.
Is the chinese B2 a clone of the Diana 27?. Both are really similar.
Hi, I have a Diana Model 22. The action has been out of the stock for some years as it was given to me non working. I got round to getting it working eventually. However, when I got round to fitting the stock, I found that it had shrunk. This meant that the two screws holding the front of thr stock did not line up....... they are off by about 2mm. Any ideas?
Excellent website by the way. Enjoyed watching you referb the Mod 27.
Aside from filing the holes in the stock into oval holes, I'm not sure what else I'd try. It's not like you can move the holes in the steel receiver. And moving the rear hole in the trigger guard would prevent the receiver cap from fitting properly. That's certainly a weird one, but I'm thinking you have to remove some wood.
Many thanks for your very prompt reply and suggestions. I was thinking along the same lines. Also thought I might plug the holes and redrill. It's a nostalgic trip really as my first gun at age 11 was an Original with a smooth bore barrel. I think it was otherwise the same gun. Now I'm 80😂 Greeting from the UK !
What year is it made? I have 1967 model 27 and it has a rail for scope.
Do you know if the stock is same size as the Diana 25?
Ci sono sistemi con materiale diverso e più performante per lo stantuffo di quoio ormai un po absoleto.
What is the difference between the Diana 27 your show here & 28?
I have same Trigger system in my mod27, usually it seems to have 3 ball system. Unfortunately Iost that tiny spring, any idea where to get it?
I have Diana model 35 made in Germany with plastic trigger can you please tell me how old it is it's still with original spring i bought this second hand 45 years back after so many years still in good condition only thing barrel is bend 3" from the breach
On a German-made Diana, a date code is often stamped on the receiver tube, usually above the trigger area. Not really a code, it marks the month and two digits of the year. A bent barrel typically means the trigger was pulled with the barrel open. This can be straightened by someone willing to make up the right jigs to support everything.
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You must used polyurethane piston's seal ....
"Edit" That time you can see difference 😉
You need. Spring. Compressor.
I've just watched your video on the Diana mod 27, I am refurbish one at the moment but I can't find a front trigger guard screw I dont suppose you know where I could buy one do you
Alan
I would try Airgunspares in the UK, and see if they have one appropriate to your version and era.
Thank you I have tried them with no luck,looks like I'll have to make one
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just curious to know if anyone has ever drilled holes into the piston to increase the fps by making the piston lighter ---anyone --just curious ?????
Lightweight pistons have been tried. There have even been titanium ones made. But one of the issues can be piston bounce when the piston comes back from the cushion of high pressure air it just made - and the pressure actually drops before the pellet gets going. Those who want to shoot heavier pellets sometimes use heavier pistons to stop that bounce. Most of my .177 rifles sound "weird" when I use the Barracuda 10 grain pellets. Velocity is poor and accuracy isn't great: piston bounce.
Bisogna allargare il foro d'uscita del tubo a 4,5 @@canuckair
chinese airgun is closer to diana 25 i think
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