Flying the Turbo Cessna 182RG

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  • @NotTelling51
    @NotTelling51 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    That plane is my pick of all planes. It's good at just about every single thing.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      10 likes on that comment. I agree.

    • @NotTelling51
      @NotTelling51 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @skywagonuniversity5023 that's a really nice 182.

    • @rrad3926
      @rrad3926 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same. Would be my dream plane.

  • @kmg501
    @kmg501 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You seem to be a human encyclopedia of these small aviation aircraft. I'm amazed at all the details you bring to these exposes.

  • @E69apeTheMatrix420
    @E69apeTheMatrix420 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    100k subs by the end 2023? Well I set the target now. Good Luck. You deserve it.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's do it. How do we do it?

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      @E69apeTheMatrix420 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @smacfe
    @smacfe ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is the most underrated general aviation airplane of all. It does it all with grace and aplomb. They are WAAAAAYYY underpriced when you consider that they have low maintenance requirements, very low insurance rates, few AD’s, parts availability, and compare favorably to a new Cirrus is just about every way. I’ve owned mine since 1999, commuted to work daily in it for a couple of years, did a huge number of business trips, and took numerous vacations all across the country with it. I just did a total firewall forward this year, have painted it now twice, new interior, and new panel with metal panels. You couldn’t get me to give this bird up if you gave me a new plane.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      True. You can get one of these or a new fixed gear for 5 times the price that goes slower.

    • @peteranninos2506
      @peteranninos2506 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      During my plane search I looked at a Turbo 182 and at the time it was bit out of my price range plus I hadn't been current in 27 years! I wound up with a Cardinal RG that I really love but that turbo would have been nice! So, now a couple years later I might just put an aftermarket turbo on her. Ok, it's 50K but what the heck! That said, she certainly won't fly that slow with the 210 wing but 140 knots under 10GPH is pretty good! Love your videos.

  • @JabariHunt
    @JabariHunt ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I swear, I learn something new in every single episode! Thank you for the explanation of turbo vs turbo normalized.

  • @wayneschenk5512
    @wayneschenk5512 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Fantastic detail Cessna should be making it again.

  • @David-vf9de
    @David-vf9de ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mark....really glad you do the long video's in 2 sessions. That is one fine looking C182RG

  • @timk.9827
    @timk.9827 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very nice aircraft

  • @LittleManFlying
    @LittleManFlying ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks for the slow flight demo! That was exactly what I was asking about in my response to the poll that I got ashamed of and deleted.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks. It is incredible what that 1973 to 1986 Cessna wing can do without STOL or anything. That is why the 180's and 185' are such great back country planes.

    • @LittleManFlying
      @LittleManFlying ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Love that Robertson cuff!

  • @anthonycyr9657
    @anthonycyr9657 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My all time favorite aircraft , next to the straight leg 182..

  • @Sasquatch426
    @Sasquatch426 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mark is an absolute legend. Thanks for making all of these incredible videos.

  • @gvhahn
    @gvhahn ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved both videos. As a new owner of a 1979 Turbo RG, I really enjoyed your historical perspective. You gained a new subscriber.

  • @Cherokee140Driver
    @Cherokee140Driver ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video! Placerville is such a pretty area.

  • @rrip1
    @rrip1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe you are the most well-informed pilot Ive ever heard of.

  • @glock40armor3
    @glock40armor3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mark,
    The 185 with reversable prop is bad ass.. The 182 RG is real nice too.
    Thanks
    Rick
    Fellow Aviator

  • @adamsocha8815
    @adamsocha8815 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Mark. Love your videos! That 1981 182RG is awesome! Maybe I can get one myself one day after the house is paid off. Lol.

  • @bernardanderson3758
    @bernardanderson3758 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark never knew more about this 182 Turbo or normal aspirated model until watching you demonstrate how well this aircraft can still fly at the point of stall and this one has a very great engine and for this reason I would recommend this to anyone looking for a Turbo 182 RG

  • @musoseven8218
    @musoseven8218 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video Mark👍😊
    It's a remarkable machine, as you say VERY Cessna, the gear action always makes me chuckle. Also as well as looking gangly the gear looks very delicate. Take off and landings are also very Cessna, the speed envelope is for TO and landings too, clever for training progression/hour building, sales and standardisation too, classic aeroplane for the USA. A big thank you, to you and the owner for bringing us along ✌️💜👍😊

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It looks gangly when it falls back at first but when it is on a jack and running you do not want to let it hit the ground or get in the way of it. If it hits the ground it will push the plane right off the jacks and if you get in the way it would probably break a bone. It is very strong. Surprisingly so. Thank you for watching.

    • @musoseven8218
      @musoseven8218 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 You're most welcome Mark. Thanks for the further insights, as you mentioned, Cessna did their homework and RG on single Cessnas by this time was pretty good👍✌️💜

  • @JoeRockYT
    @JoeRockYT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I remember flying this exact plane years ago 2007ish, it was one of the cleanest, smoothest and fastest airplanes I've flown as far as single engine Cessna's go.. I remember at the time the leather was brand new and the door latches were silky smooth, I remember seeing well over 200kts ground speed heading eastbound over the sierras.. Glad to see it still looking good, the owner at the time had a T210R that was in immaculate shape as well.

  • @escapeartist7756
    @escapeartist7756 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice landing Mark. Your piloting skills are as good as your narrative prowess.

  • @johnguenet7115
    @johnguenet7115 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As always Mark,love your content,this is my ultimate drream plane,loved your slow flight demo!

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. It's amazing how a plane like that can fly that slow. "Only for demonstrative purposes, do not try this at home, closed course professional driver etc etc"

  • @johngjacobi
    @johngjacobi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    💯 accurate…the TR182 is the best of all worlds if you only needs 4 seats! Great video!!

  • @pastortbell
    @pastortbell ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the time and effort that you put in this video. It was very well done. My 310Q is sold and I'm leaning toward the purchase of one of these! Keep up the good work!

  • @erniekelly2479
    @erniekelly2479 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice demo. Thanks!

  • @GCW123
    @GCW123 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Beautifully done - as always.

  • @sski
    @sski ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the 'tie-down cam' go-pro shots! They really show off the airframe.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Some planes have better outside clamp areas than others.

    • @sski
      @sski ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 Indeed.

  • @robertd4468
    @robertd4468 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 182 is popular for a reason.

  • @markthibault8579
    @markthibault8579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great aircraft.

  • @paulsautocm
    @paulsautocm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful flight.

  • @mmeyers111
    @mmeyers111 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Very good informative video on an underrated airplane. For many pilots the 182T was their first exposure to turbocharged airplanes. As an homage to your British heritage you need to do at least one video in Bermuda shorts as opposed to the regular cargo pant shorts. 😉

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I already try to vary my wardrobe a bit. I'd have my tailor in tears if I ordered some Bermudas.

  • @clarencehopkins7832
    @clarencehopkins7832 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent stuff bro

  • @CrystalCanyon100
    @CrystalCanyon100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great channel

  • @boatnic
    @boatnic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Best plane Cessna ever built.

  • @billadams8795
    @billadams8795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that plane. Great video.

  • @ditto1958
    @ditto1958 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice paint job!

  • @BIGJOESXR
    @BIGJOESXR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love it!

  • @relaxwitheljo5425
    @relaxwitheljo5425 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi mark, pilots must wear their seat belts at all time.🤔.I love watching your videos.

  • @Spyke-lz2hl
    @Spyke-lz2hl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First, great video and thank you! I do have an observation. You wait way too long to pull up your gear, just like many others. Many have a tendency to wait until they’re at or past the end of the runway. What it’s really meant to be is no more useable runway. When you get to the point where you can’t get back down to the runway to land on it in the event of an engine failure, the gear needs to come up to give that performance boost. By waiting, you’re only reducing your climb during a critical period.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you. It's really in the editing and for the camera when I put the gear up on these flights.

    • @Spyke-lz2hl
      @Spyke-lz2hl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 Gotcha! Thanks for the response!

  • @v1rotait23
    @v1rotait23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Being a Cessna guy, I'd love to buy this TN182RG and stay at your BNB! Just the all-round "best at everything" in light single aircraft, and even in my favourite color scheme, with a nice black panel (c/w "English" wood trim!) But, then I live in New Zealand, with a dusty CPL/M-IR, and have no money... But if I ever do, I'll been seeing you Mark for a plane if I can't find one on this side of the Pacific! 😀

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Come on over. Thank you.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Where in NZ. I've been all over NZ, it is a great country.

    • @v1rotait23
      @v1rotait23 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Mark, I'm from Christchurch, down on the "mainland", living 2 miles from our international airport where I did my training long ago. I've flown all around NZ, but mostly around the South Island over all our mountains and many lakes. The USA is my bucket list country, which will take at least 20yrs to get around it all! My job here in NZ has our main US branch office in Phoenix, where my boss is, so I'm likely to come over sometime! I spend a lot of my time talking to customers all over the US so am pretty familiar with many of the states. 😁

  • @walterthorne4819
    @walterthorne4819 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Captain many thanks? Does your bird have shoulder harnesses available?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, it has the factory fixed harnesses. Inertia reels over both shoulders are about $1500.

  • @hossamalbashrawi9177
    @hossamalbashrawi9177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @6:13 Turbo Inlet Temb gauge is labeled “TIT” 😅 I like 👍

  • @DWBurns
    @DWBurns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When airplane shopping I was looking for that plane, 182 RG Turbo or non turbo, none to be found a few years ago. If I did not like my Arrow so much I would think about upgrading.
    I want an MT Prop for my Arrow.

  • @glock40armor3
    @glock40armor3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Mark,
    We would like to come out sometime and visit..
    Best Regards,
    Rick
    Henderson Nv.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rick, Come out and visit. Let me know when

    • @glock40armor3
      @glock40armor3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skywagonuniversity5023
      Ok, Mark we will..Thanks

  • @likes2fly
    @likes2fly 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    awesome video . In a turbo could you push the throttle full forward and as you climb it would keep you exactlyat 24 mp?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No, The opposite. You manually maintain 24 inches with power and altitude. You never cannot get 24 inches. The throttle is never fully in even on take off.

  • @jwgraham5134
    @jwgraham5134 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suggest cowl flaps and shoulder harness….

  • @chrisstrobel3439
    @chrisstrobel3439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man I got some anxiety watching you fly this with no shoulder belt, I lost my teeth not wearing a shoulder belt back in the late 80’s ☹️

  • @fridge7515
    @fridge7515 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the turbo normalized. Is there a major cost difference in maintenance or annual between this and say a similar fixed gear 182?

    • @michaelmontefusco896
      @michaelmontefusco896 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Absolutely

    • @SkylaneGuy
      @SkylaneGuy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, because you have to swing and rig the gear. Also way more expensive to insure because of the chance of gear up landing.

    • @fridge7515
      @fridge7515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SkylaneGuy would it if there are any to have a fixed gear turbo normalized 182 or fixed gear 182 with an engine upgrade like the 285/300hp? Asking being in Arizona during the warmer months the density altitude in some places gets way up there.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, you have to swing the gear at an annual and the turbo itself is an expendable item. More speed but more maintenance but no more than anything else like it. Did you see the "gear swing" video we did on here.

    • @fridge7515
      @fridge7515 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 thanks! Going to checkout the gear swing video now. I’m a newer fixed wing ppl, being not a professional pilot I believe in the KISS method. Living in Arizona where density altitude can quickly get up there Id like something simple yet effective when carrying a decent load, be comfortable without being too wild. Probably an unobtainable wish list but I haven’t yet had a large experience with aircraft other than the 172.

  • @josbren8943
    @josbren8943 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How does the the 182 RG handle rough trips and or off airport landings compared to fixed gear 182? Thx. I have a C182Q

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It has slightly smaller tires on it that can never be bigger or they will not go in the gear wells. It is not an off airport plane but if a surface is level enough to drive a modern sedan on it at 70mph, it is OK to land on it.

  • @olecranon455
    @olecranon455 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am considering the MT prop for my 1979 TR182RG, N4428R. Can you speak to this installation a little more versus the McCauley 3 blade propeller?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was light, responsive and very smooth. They can erode fast in rain.

  • @cobraCRZY48
    @cobraCRZY48 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Currently looking to upgrade from my 1968 Piper Arrow. After watching this video and your video about the Bonanzas I am truly conflicted! Current mission is 2 Adults and 2 kids 400ish nm trips as well as $100 hamburger. As someone with more experience than me do you have any advice or recommendations?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hmmm hard one. What I'd suggest is look at both the RG's and the 33 model Bonanzas and see which one comes up with what you need first, as both planes are going to do what you want to do with them very well.. Considerations are, number of doors, high wing/low wing etc.

  • @hoffmanaeronautics6192
    @hoffmanaeronautics6192 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think a demonstration at LXV is in order.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry. What is LVX. a speed or an airport?

    • @hoffmanaeronautics6192
      @hoffmanaeronautics6192 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 Sorry, KLXV is the Lake County airport at Leadville, CO. Field elevation is 9934 feet.
      Great overview, as always.

  • @okiegrandboater
    @okiegrandboater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some bad info in this video, as a 10 year owner and pilot of a TR182, you won’t overboast a TR182, it has a blow off valve that opens at 33 inches and allows the excess boast to bleed off if you push the throttle to far in, while it’s not proper to count on that it WILL NOT BOAST TO 40 inches lol, also the gear warning activates based off of throttle position or second knotch of flaps, either one will activate gear warning if the gear isn’t down

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, the pop-off valve is there, but still, you should never run it over the green like it wants you to.

  • @visibilityunlimitedmedia
    @visibilityunlimitedmedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Mark, would love to know what you used to produce the instrument cluster seen across the bottom of this video. This is absolutely the most informative YT aviation channel. Anyone shopping a particular model, would be wise to look for one of your videos to learn about it.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We're using a product called Telemetry Overlay. It uses GPS data from the GoPro to create a representation of the instruments. - Don the Camera Guy.

    • @visibilityunlimitedmedia
      @visibilityunlimitedmedia ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 Thanks Don!

  • @plymouthsuperbird440
    @plymouthsuperbird440 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You said near the end that "the most practical family wagon for someone who doesn't fly a tail wheel" is this aircraft. What is it for someone who does fly tail wheel?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well. There is all the fun of a 185 and all the practicality of a Cessna.

  • @_mark_787
    @_mark_787 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At9:15 with the emergency going off at full flaps, does the computer automatically activate some positive elevator to counter the continued decreasing speed initiated by flaps?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The gear warning horn will go on and on until you either increase power or put the gear down. You could fly like that all day. There is no computer. Just a sensor.

    • @_mark_787
      @_mark_787 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 awesome, thanks for clarification

  • @JW-gb6hq
    @JW-gb6hq ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @lakeguy65616
    @lakeguy65616 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why is Carb Heat necessary in a turbocharged engine plane? Isn't air heated as it is compressed by the turbocharger? Great videos!

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good question.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว

      What if at low altitude, icing conditions existed and the turbo normalizer was being bypassed? At that point, wouldn't the carb heat be needed? - Don the Camera Guy.

    • @Saml01
      @Saml01 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's blow through configuration and it's not compressing the air over sea level pressure so it's not heating it. That means you can get carb ice like on a non turbo.

  • @Dan-sd5bm
    @Dan-sd5bm ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mark would you do a video on the Cessna 195 you have. Also does it have a hanger in Placerville Thanks.

  • @banjo2019
    @banjo2019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark, how do you show those data graphics?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Banjo! We use Telemetry Overlay, which takes GPS data and creates a simulation of the instruments. It is not 100% accurate, but does provide a good representation of what the airplane is doing. - Don the Camera Guy.

    • @banjo2019
      @banjo2019 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 Thanks Don! Love your channel. Tried to buy from ya too but your inventory didn’t have my plane choice at the time.

  • @ddthompson42
    @ddthompson42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What are you using to collect the parameters for the video?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The telemetry comes from the Go pro through an app. Don the Cameraman can tell you better, I just like saying "telemetry"

    • @ddthompson42
      @ddthompson42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 Ha! Nice. I just bought a Cardinal. Would love to start filming flights for my own debrief and minor entertainment.

  • @FlyingNDriving
    @FlyingNDriving ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still feel like the 2pt videos should stagger by a day but that could just be me. TH-cam recommend tab doesn't seem to recommend one video a day from the same channel. Also the notifications of new uploads seem to get funky when two videos come out at the same time

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for that. We wanted to put them out at the same time, but your observation shows we are defeating our purpose of growing our audience. - Don the Camera Guy.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hmmmm Cunning, OK thanks. We can stagger the release of the second one by a day if we have two.

  • @SkylaneGuy
    @SkylaneGuy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Carb heat on a turbo? Wonder how often you really need that.

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be honest, due to a lot of factors including our weather and the side location of the air intake and a few other things, I never use carb heat on one of these.

    • @randystockdale3072
      @randystockdale3072 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shouldn't use carb heat on the ground as any debris will go right thru the Turbo when opened.@@skywagonuniversity5023 Nice informative video and a very very nice TR182.

  • @FlyingNDriving
    @FlyingNDriving ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So this is what you would call a manual wastegate single lever turbo normalizer setup?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, No extra lever or knob. All seamless on the throttle. 24 inches (or what ever you choose) at any altitude at any time.

  • @ashercantal
    @ashercantal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing a cessna 182 without gear is weird

  • @publicmail2
    @publicmail2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do a survey on opening music, maybe a new song will help subs?

    • @skywagonuniversity5023
      @skywagonuniversity5023  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We did one earlier. We actually removed the opening and due to the outcry, put it back in. Branding. People know immediately that they are watching our channel. One guy said, "Keep it in. It's how my wife knows I'm watching Skywagon University and not porn."
      You could hear it across a room and know. It's 7 seconds of your life. One push of the fast forward and you've only lost 5. - Don the Camera Guy.

    • @bradfieldrich
      @bradfieldrich 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@skywagonuniversity5023 I Like the music. Not used often and a good fit for Mark's presentation style.

  • @FlightSimDude
    @FlightSimDude ปีที่แล้ว +1

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