Pomplamoose is a Weird "Band"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.พ. 2021
- Pomplamoose is not a normal band. I made this documentary to show you the people, process and money behind my weird and wonderful band.
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Joe Budden recently launched on Patreon, and one of my favorite things about him is his DISDAIN for rules. Joe has no attachment to the status quo. He feels no pressure to follow the pack. I'm not quite as extreme, but I've found that my general inclination is similar. For example, if you ask most people in the music industry, they'll tell you that your manager gets 10 - 15%, your agent gets another cut, your label takes a certain cut, etc. Pomplamoose hasn't setup our "band" that way. We don't have a manager. We don't have a label. No corporate overlords get a "cut" of the thing we're building. Instead, we've hired amazing, talented teammates to help us with our specific work streams -- making weekly videos and music. We've structured it this way because we realized we're a different type of band: we don't do much touring, for example, and it works for us because we own all our own masters, which is where the majority of our income comes from. So we're constantly asking ourselves, "what's right for us?" rather than "how do other bands work?" I prefer the first line of questioning in general -- not just with bands, but with all avenues of life. So if you take one thing away from this video, I hope it's not how Pomplamoose runs our business. I hope it's not what WE do. I hope it's that YOU are.... YOU. You are different than other people. You have different strengths, different needs, different holes. What's right for YOU?
nice work Jack and Nat. Good deep dive into all the things no one talks about!
Hey Jack! I recently spoke to Darren from HSCC, and I'm really hoping you can help me with a copyright question (he's also interested in your take on this). What's the situation with Pomplamoose mashups and YT licensing/copyright? i.e. what does YT think it is when you upload it? Love the content, btw.
Is Scary Pockets set up the same way?
Instead, we've hired amazing, talented teammates to help us with our specific work streams -- making weekly videos and music...10:22 I would have here a small slice for programmers, you who are CEO would understand
yes, you are weird. but in a good way.
“They can disagree quickly without being offended” - sign of a great team right there. Really interesting. Thanks for sharing this!
It’s a trait / skill that if we could all have, the world would be a much better place.
@@mikischu it's intimately related to instruction, education and intelligence. So that's something we, adult, can change ;) I'm trying every day :) As the song said, the man in the mirror, I'm starting with him ;)
@@tmbarral664 with education and LOVE ! if i may add ;)
100% This is a perfect example of what strong teams look like.
That kind of "disagreement" is a sign of mature adults.
13 years from now:
“Multi-billionaire Jack Conte just donated the biggest company in the world, Pomplamoogle, to charity and will continue to produce one video per hour with his newest invention, the Mind Recorder Plus.”
My son is autistic, and really wants to work on "mind recorder plus". Please consider this an early application for position of apprentice!
Agree - though more like 5 years hence 😉
Whataaaat?
he is already worth 2b dollars in Patreon alone :P and a pretty hefty salary as well I'm sure. he can finance any of his projects into oblivion with no issue :P
Only 10 years to go
Hi guys! I am a 63 year old white male from a small town in South Carolina. I am a big fan of your music. I deal with depression on a daily basis and your music helps me tremendously. I have been in custom cabinets for 46 years and want desperately to retire. I have also done sound through the years and have a lot of respect for what you do. Please, keep it going because it is my therapy. I can put my headphones on and disappear into the land of Pomplamoose! THANKS GUYS!
62 DITTO, my thoughts completely. Love, love,love Pomplamoose..
keep it up Ketih! cheers from France
I agree:) their music is therapy creating good vibes and happy thoughts. Depression sucks and their music definately helps :)
Hope you're doing ok, Keith.
Music = Therapy… Yes1 Best Wishes!
I literally "fell" over one of this band's videos and was moved into a world of truly beautiful music, where a team of dedicated musicians work collaboratively to produce something almost other-worldly. No shouting; no screaming; no stupid posturing - just finely crafted songs that bring joy to the heart. I will do my best to bring Pomplamoose to a wider audience on this side of the Atlantic. And thank you for making an old man very happy.
I remember being blown away by the idea of "video songs" in 2009. I was 14 at the time and was very happy to see your growth throughout the years. Please never stop being awesome.
How'd it surprise you then? Video killed the radio star decades prior. :p
I still remember some video that Nataly took of Jack sitting on the kitchen floor, notebook and his lap, and she said something about him not getting any sleep because the launch of his website (that I’m assuming it was Patreon first version).
The way I see it, Patreon was founded by one of Pomplamoose’s members and the band itself is the biggest hit in TH-cam history. I was singing your version of Mrs. Robinson today while packing. What you both create are part of my life and I’m forever grateful.
Congratulations and . Keep going
Thanks for talking about the money aspect, Jack; we need so much more talk around the *business* aspect of it all, how it can help or kill the art. It's a process and a source and for some an inspiration, but at the end of the day, money makes the world go round; you, as an artist, need to figure out how it fits with your art. So, thanks!
Okay the Star Trek Christmas Time is actually great tho
This is a hell of a gift, Jack. You didn't have to do this, and it speaks volumes about your character that you did it anyway. Thank you.
This is really inspirational. I remember Pomplamoose being almost nonexistent in the couple years before 2017, but you guys really brought it all the way back. It’s making me think differently about my own channel (HappyFamilyShow). We’ve been completely shut down since 2018 because of a lack of funding, but our 10 year anniversary is next month. Maybe we should be thinking of a way to pick it back up again... You guys are showing me that anything is possible.
Jack, would you please consider making a video regarding the process of legally putting cover songs on TH-cam? Do your videos demonetized? Do you get a mechanical and sync license? Is there a way for small TH-camrs to post covers legally and not have these problems?
I think they use Soundrop (soundrop.com)
This is an excellent question. It's kept me from putting my better covers up.
Not sure about now, BUT they use to purchase a mechanical license for each song cover they did.
I noted there was no mention of "royalties" in their expenses. I hope they do share part of the wealth with the other artists that created these incredible songs. I do like the band a lot, admire their work and would definitely expect them to do the right thing.
@@jfnahas They specially mentioned one of their expenses was ASCAP (American Society of Composers Authors and Publishers) A non-profit group that collects and distributes royalties.
I love how you two stuck together through the years as a couple, experiencing all the ups and downs together, while putting a smile on everyone's faces through your songs and creative ventures. Shared happiness and a life well lived.
Eleven years later I'm still at the "do it all yourself" level.....I'm so jealous!LOL
Love you guys, you're an inspiration! Thank you!
With 95k subs you should be proud, and the best parts are that you retain full creative control and you don't have to pay anyone.
@@ollonelycat I completely agree! I couldn't have done it without Pomplamoose or Marty Schwartz as inspiration and guides, plus the subscribers are all so supportive and creative! We've found a nice little corner of the internet over here!
I'll never forget my first phone call with Jack when he helped me decide what lights to buy, which I still use to this day! Then I got to see them play live in Philly, my mind got BLOWN away by all of it. The show was amazing, th band was TIGHT, Lauren O'connell was there too, she sounded great and was soooooo nice! Everyone, was so nice and the interview I did with Jack is still my favorite I've ever done, because I learned so much from him in that little moment.
It has been so much fun to watch what Jack and Nataly and team have built over the years. It's really amazing and inspirational to the everyone who sees it and is in the music business. Thank you!!!
@@GaragebandandBeyond Sounds like good times. I've been creating music and videos by myself since 1995, and never had the luxury of anyone reaching out to help me. I offer people money all the time to help but it seems that most of them are too important to respond. Maybe I'm just a really bad musician, or a really bad guy, or both. I gotta check out your channel.
Jack, great video. You and Nataly are just a delight to watch and hear. Same with the band. I don't think I've ever seen a band that has more fun making music than yours. As a fan during most of your journey, I've grown more impressed every year with the creativity and innovation you've brought to all aspects of Pomplamoose and more recently, Patreon. Whatever the problem is, you find a creative way to solve it. I was in the room on Clubhouse last week and heard you discuss how you'd like to see this all play out over the next few years. Like many others, I think you're right. That said, it does blow one's mind to think that this all started with some toys, a bunch of old instruments, a couple of mics, foam board, and a camera! Still, I can't think of anyone who has done more to educate and lead the way for other musicians than the two of you and I wish you and Nataly continued accolades and success. Be well. - Howard
Vous êtes extraordinaires! Merci! Merci! Merci!
Je suis un auteur-compositeur-interprète et producteur indépendant de Montréal et vous êtes un modèle tellement inspirant. C'est vraiment gentil de prendre le temps de nous parler de comment ça se passe à l'interne!
Votre musique est phénoménale, la vibe, les humains, tout : MERCI!!!
Anytime I feel discouraged in music, I think about Pomplamoose, and suddenly everything is OK.
Except he is backed by his wealth with Patroen. Most Musians don't have.
@@leehoward454Ok, but I’m talking about how “i” feel in this comment. Pomplamoose did a lot of things right, and yes, there was good timing, and luck, but there was also lots of hard work, talent and a constant flux of new ideas. I like how they keep pushing and changing, and trying new things. They’re not afraid to change things up when things aren’t working for them. They did that (successfully) well before Patreon ever existed. And yes, they have money now, good for them! But they worked hard for it, (Jack Conte didn’t even take a salary from Patreon for the first three years.) I choose to continue to be inspired by them as a band, and to feel supported by the community they created. 😊
So the bearded guy next to the pretty blond is the ceo of patron. My world just blew up.
No seriously you guys do great work and I am very happy that you are financially rewarded for adding joy to the world.
PS. I really appreciate patreon and the ability to fund things that I find valuable.
It’s worth noting that it’s Patreon he,s talking about, not the worth of Pamplamoose.
A message from an older musician: Thank you guys for inspiring me to get into home recording. I was inspired by your very early productions around 2010. I thought if these guys can create these amazing VideoSongs, surely I could at least make a damn start. I know that Jack started in the DAW production side of things, but I was so impressed with the obvi skill that Nataly has demonstrated in the present. It is all so awesome, and I really am impressed with each of your humility in knowing how hard it is in the trenches because that is exactly where you started. You kids are so impressive as innovators that are now a model in the Berklee School music syllabus, but also just decent humans. It is so clear to see and it is a beacon in this biz that has had such a shady sketch history (Clive Davis, Allen Klein, and all the rest, eh-hemm). Keep up the great work! Each of you are successful CEOs for each branch of your business. I know firsthand the ascend and crash-and-burn side of the business from my computer career (MacZone, Egghead, EDS, Microsoft). It is so inspiring to see you guys win on the creative side. All I have ever been able to accomplish was a very modest financial success in music as a side hustle. Parabens! Congratulations to you both on all your endeavors!
Kinda funny how you look younger 12 years later
A by product of living the dream id say. 👍🏻
It’s called wearing a hat
That's what happens when you live. Your life doing what you love instead of what everybody else wanted you to do. Ageing is all about stress. If we're doing what we love, we grow into our beauty. Truth.
What are you implying?
Pomplamoose remain a unique phenomena. I love the diversity as well as the ethos of the band. I love in particular the revamping of old songs and the promoting of old, hidden classics to new audiences. The exploration of French material in particular is wonderful!
Have been a fan ever since the early Pomplamoose days - my all time favorite of the dynamic duo had to be your rendition of Nature Boy with just piano and bass. Still magical to this day and I'm so glad that the magic has reached so many more people !!
As a musician, former recording engineer, and photographer who found financial success in business I LOVE hearing how you both brought your creativity and business acumen together in a successful formula for for both the band and Patreon...well done and thank you!
Best DIY success story ever! All this wonderment began with little Jack ‘n’ Nat making a “videosong” with a teenee glockenspiel, a toy piano, an accordion, a bunch of effect pedals and a room full of mattresses. “Hail Mary” is my personal favorite. Congratulations and ROCK ON!
My admiration for Pomplamoose is immense. I recall the early days discovering their videos and just being amazed at the approach. That it is now such a unique success shows how creative people can be successful without having to rely on the unscrupulous exploitation of the music industry.
Thank you so much for Patreon, Jack!!! I am able to create art (making videos) as my side-hustle and it feels soooooooo gooooooood!!!!
I'm so happy there's a video about this! I've been wondering for a while!
In managing research (creative process), a command structure doesn't foster leap aheads. Command structure might barely work for producing widgets, but not breakthroughs. Open, democratic structure fosters the best solutions. Your organization is on point.
Thanks for the music!
Been there since the beginning! So happy that you guys are still growing strong and filling the world with awesome music! Keep on creating
I've been with you from Day One, and it's been a sheer joy & delight. When you launched Patreon, I was on board in a New York Second. Thanks for this lovely retrospective. Your songs got me through some truly rough patches of life, and now, in my old age, I have a fantastic recording studio, helping other rising stars achieve their dreams. Yay, Pomplamoose!
I'm really excited that you two were able to turn Pomplamoose into the success story it is today. I've been following since Single Ladies and your story could have easily gone the way of a lot of content creators - something you love but something you ultimately have to do on the side because it isn't making enough money for you to live on, or something you're doing but you have to give up a lot of other things (nice place to live, etc.) to achieve it. I'm happy that you two are far from "starving artists" and that you exemplify what the new revolution in content creation can and does look like. And thanks for being willing to pull back the curtain and show what it really takes in order to run a band or music project as a business. It's so inspiring. Cheers!
I love that you are continuing to be so open, vibrant, vulnerable, and so full of passion for what you do. Thanks for this vid and all the hard work!
Been watching you folks since the beginning, and I honestly thought that Patreon would eventually end Pomplamousse. Instead, I'm watching more than ever, and buying LPs! Thanks for all the years of music, keep up the great work.
Beyond appreciative for what you, Natalie, and the whole team does
I have always appreciated you guys and I've been fascinated to watch you because you always make the process so transparent. As an aspiring musician and creative person, this is huge for me. I can see that it's just people in a room making stuff, and I feel like I can do that too.
Good on you all. So well done and more fun to come. So pleased for your create and all the musicians you are able to help. :)
I remember the early videos, what seems like a lifetime ago, and could feel the unfettered momentum and joy it brought. Y'all deserve the prosperity that you've all worked so hard to attain. A fine example for all of us to follow and to learn and share, forever creating what comes from our heart. Thank you, for sharing this documentary.
I arrived at Pomplamoose well into 2020 and it gave me a lot of joy in a time when things are fucking hard, man! Not just the music, which is rad, but you and Nataly are so sincere and transparent and really innovators (an overused word, but apt) who care for creatives and culture as a whole. You care that people live their dreams and be compensated. And you care that your original music (especially) is honest and beautiful. That level of care and passion truly comes through in every video. Thank you guys for being genuine and sharing all your gifts.
I've been waiting for this for quite awhile. I was always curious about some of the frequent performers like Ben Rose and Nick Campbell. And now we got a piece showcasing the non-performers who I never really gave a thought about. This is great.
This video was really really nice to see. And all your shorts I love them so much, they remind me of how much I miss being in a band. And how absolutely I will be in so many more after my first fell apart after half a year. It's honestly the most joyous experience I have ever had playing with others like that and I want to play on stage soooo badly.
It was so fun to witness your guys journey from the beginning. I still proudly share with coworkers “You know Patreon right? But have you heard of Pomplamoose”
Natalie and Jack I love you, such an inspiring tale over the years 💜
"Something About Us" came to me on a yt suggestion last year and I've been a fan ever since. You guys seem to have a lot of fun doing what you love and the chemistry shows. Thank you.
Its like when Penn and Teller “reveal” a trick and just wow you with a trick inside the explanation
Loving this content. Reminds me of Mornings with Pomplamoose. Been following you guys for a decade and the trajectory has been insane for the channel and both of you and Scary Pockets and Patreon and your marriage, and your solo work...you have more energy than anyone. So grateful you have both taken us with you for the ride, and that you have been humble enough to let us continue to be a part of it...even as the success has come your way. Proud of you!
You all are doing incredible. I love your content and, dang more power to ya. Keep expanding!
Thank you so much for this, Jack! We're a musical project from Brazil and we struggle every single day trying to make things happen here. Sometimes people don't really understand us creative people in Brazil. Our country is beautiful but messed up! We feel like we're being sabotaged all the time, even by the musicians and music community. My sister and I used to live in LA and we learned a lot being there for 4 years. We're really excited for what is yet to come! It's been hard but we will never give up! Once again, thank you so much for the insights and tips! I will show this for all the people that work with us and try to make them see how you guys work over there! I'm a huge fan of all of your works! Cheers from Brazil! Take Care
Been enthusiastically following since almost the beginning (you did have a name by the time I started following).. kids used to love watching the angry birds video also. Now so many high quality folks involved - it’s just on a whole other level in the past couple years. You all rock. Thanks for your creative work!
Thanks so much for the great explanation of your process! Dig all the videos (in particular the mashups) and seeing how it all comes together was very cool.
Great video. I love the way you edit your videos. Fast paced and absolutely addictive. Amazing work, Jack.
And I am loving every fucking minute of this new era. I' in heaven. Been there from the quirky beginning and have always loved your chemistry and fun.
While Pomplamoose has developed a HUGE amount since the one-shot projector videos (complete with styrofoam worlds!), you still pop out awesome tunes that sound Pomplamoosey!
Congratulations on your Patreon success - I remember you launching it and thinking 'What a brilliant idea!' - now it feels as if it always has been there, it is so integrated into the creative industry.
This is awesome and helpful. Would love a “part II” in how you guys handle split-sheets, writing credits, etc.
Been following since the beginning. So cool to see this behind the scenes, hard and smart work pays off. You're an inspiration in life and on TH-cam. Keep it rockin!
Quality of your work is better and better. I hope that the garage spirit is maintained so that the content does not become too commercial.
I love Pomplamoose for I don't know how many years now. I really like the kind of videos, and the music too. But this new video added a special point: You make creativity viable. And you show how this is possible. Thank you very much for sharing this. I work myself in a creative business (no music, just text), but a number of ideas from your workflow are inspiring for me, too. For example: Have different sources of income (of course!). Have fixed days where you work in the team and get everyone working separately afterwards. Set a challenging speed and motivate everyone to keep that pace. And very important: Believe in what you do, even if you are not profitable for some months. That is no blind faith or wishful thinking, I guess it assumes more than money as a parameter - based on the usage of your output you can trust that the second half of 2020 won't be the beginning of a downturn. And it looks as if you don't care how others run a band, but you develop your own model just as you see it evolving reasonably. I love that.
Finally, I see you having fun. That is not for granted, I guess, as you did all that for more than a decade. Keep going, I keep following!
I really LOVE you're sense of family in this business, also looking after the people that work for you seems to be a HUGE value, best conditions to be creative. I love it!!
just upped my Patreon support of the group. Love the explainers and the mission and the creativity. Great Job.
I am so happy that Pomplamoose has grown and succeeded so much!
I still kinda miss the early days tho - the more raw, messy, chopped up beautiful disaster
Thanks for this insight! You are all so special and lovely! Plus so talented and passionate! You are a role model of working hard and enjoy the process. Thanks for letting us being a part of it! Happy and blessed Easter! Greetings from Berlin!
You guys are absolutely incredible- I’ve been following you guys for many years. Each time I watch one of these videos, your passion to share the process is not lost on me. Thank you so much for all of this. Thank you for not giving up. Thank you for going the extra mile.
Hey Jack, just wanted to point out what I think might be a typo (just started watching the video) at 0:05 I think you meant "> 1 Million Subscribers", otherwise it reads as "less than a million", I'll keep on watching now :)
I think they meant it as a... Like an arrow pointing to 1million
Thanks for the video Jack! You are the inspiration for our channel even though I'm just an Elf, we try to have fun and do what we like! Still trying to find a model that works year-round and not just in November and December where people need us (Elf on the Shelf) BTW if you ever drop that Star Trek Christmas time, we would love to cover back up vocals. We tend to be a little pitchy though :) oh and remember make everyday Christmas!!!!
I found the process of your band intriguing. It's amazing how self contained your operation is. Patreon and your band are the perfect balance of the creative and business. A symbiosis where one feeds the other. Inspiring video.
I love seeing this kind of behind-the-scenes stuff, and am even more jazzed about the fact everyone involved is getting paid nicely, productions seems smooth and it all seems really well coordinated.
This is the kind of operation I'd love to be a part of someday.
It’s crazy that you can arrange 4 songs in a day. And be able to play so many instruments competently is so foreign to me.
yes, huge respect
That's why your guys faces seemed familiar! You were the ones that did that vocoder Electro Harmonix video!
I’m new to Pomplamoose, not to earth, I’ve been here many years. A young physical therapist and triathlete turned me on to you guy’s. I’m loving listening to your covers of music I listened to 40+ years ago up until present day. Watching your TH-cam channel from the beginning till now I’ve witnessed an evolution, a sophistication that I’ve never heard in a cover. The term “Mashup” was foreign to me and you’ve created an art form with it. I share much of what you do with our grandchildren, they love the Bruno Mars Miley Cyrus mashup. You all are pure talent Thanks ❤
Congratulations Jack!! And thank you for sharing the process. It's so valuable.
In expenses I noticed that there were no licensing costs. As a lot of the songs are covers/mash-ups, don’t the original writers/artists want their pound of flesh? Or are you small enough to fly under the radar / have enough goodwill that they don’t care?
No expert, but I think the platforms sort out that end of things along with the performing rights organizations (BMI, ASCAP).
@@robertlucey825 Yeah I believe it's included in the streaming revenue, meaning that instead of getting all potential money, a part of it goes to the original artists. But I could be wrong
You cannot fly under the radar on a public platform ! The platform is the radar...
@@TartempionLampion how macluen-ish
This is why we love you even from other countries like Guatemala! Best of luck guys!
Very impressed with the collaboration of people and how well you all work as a team. I’ve been in construction my whole life. So I know what it takes to get a project done. You guys are doing great!
So proud! Been a fan of the band for many years! Since just about the beginning. I love that you guys make the music you want and you can hear it! The music is fun and it looks fun. MORE! make MORE!
Sorry to be the one to do this, but the “1 million subscribers”. Otherwise amazing insight y’all. Keep it up!
"I want to help creative people build their dreams in a sustainable, viable way." - **Inspiring**
I'm a new 2020 subscriber, having discovered Pomplamoose shortly after Scary Pockets. Loving your work, and everyone else involved in both bands. Here's to more great music in 2021!
Thanks for this documentary and the detailed comments you've written down here! Though I do not want to turn my creativity into a profession, I admire the way you've innovated the ways to do so (both with Patreon and with the bands)
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You guys are great though, much love.
I've been a follower of Pomplamoose since 2009 and before the Christmas commercial . You guys deserve it all, being pioneers in the TH-cam video streaming artform. Wonderful to see you persevere. You've come a long way since Grandma's house.
I've been following you guys for several years and it's fantastic to see the success you have attained, but your creative talents make you guys a most unique entity that keeps getting better and better. Outstanding!!!
I discovered your music 24 hours ago. I am hooked. And it was this video that set the hook. For creatives, many of whom struggle to find a way to make a living from their creations (and fail), this is a bright shining light saying that is is possible. For that reason, this may be one of the most valuable (and hopefully influential) on YT. Thank you for making it and being honest about the business side of making a life from your creations. Two Thumbs Up.
PS: I love the music too and will tell my friends about it.
PPS: More Gipsy Jazz/Swing in French. - that pushes ALL of my buttons.
I've seen a few comments asking about how they deal with ASCAP/writers royalties/rights.
I'm going to try to answer some of them (but I could be wrong)
Their cover songs are distributed by Soundrop (according to the ends of their song cover videos).
Soundrop's website says their pricing is $10/song to secure the license + 15% of revenue from digital music platforms.
They put out roughly 40 song covers per year so they prob pay ~$400 per year.
The 15% cut is prob already factored into their revenue
As for rights on TH-cam, Studio 71 seems to be the company they're partnered with for their licensing and rights (as indicated at the bottom of the descriptions of their videos)
Anton! Amazing, thank you for jumping in and offering your expertise. You're right on!
I have been seeing those questions as well, so I'm chime in, too, with a bit more info about how licensing works for cover songs.
1) Anyone can put a cover on TH-cam. However, in order to be DMCA compliant, TH-cam MUST remove the cover if they are instructed to do so by the rights holder. In other words, when Pomplamoose posts a cover of say, Single Ladies, then Sony Music technically has the ability to file a take down request with TH-cam, who then must comply with that takedown request if they want to remain a legal, compliant service. So the question is, why doesn't Sony take down the cover? Why has Sony allowed Pomplamoose to keep our version of Single Ladies online? The answer is that TH-cam has built a system for rights holders to "claim" videos as their intellectual property. The effect of "claiming" a video is that the rights holder can then run ads over that video and collect the associated ad revenue. This is a bit of a strange system, but it allows bands like Pomplamoose to post covers, and it incentivizes rights holders to NOT file take down requests, because they can make "free money" instead. The result is that rights holders often don't end up filing take down notices, because they're making ad revenue over videos that they don't have to make.
2) Streaming and song sales. Anton is CORRECT! We use Soundrop to post our songs to streaming services like Deezer, Spotify, and Apple Music. Soundrop connects us to hundreds of such services, so our music can be streamed globally. And even better, they take care of royalty payments for covers. So we essentially upload a cover to Soundrop, we tell them what song we're covering, Soundrop finds the rights holders, and then they automatically withhold a portion of our earnings to pay the appropriate rights holders their "statutory mechanical royalty rate" of about 9 cents per download. For streamed songs, there's a slightly different formula, since there are no downloads, but it works the same way. Essentially Soundrop takes care of licensing for us. We upload songs to their service, they upload them to all the streaming and download services, they pay rights holders the right amount, and they pay us. It's a great service.
That disclaimer("Im the CEO of Patreon") is the biggest flex ever XD
GAH! I swear, I'm not flexing!! It's just that sometimes people call me out if i don't make that disclaimer -- especially if I'm talking about anything money related. A couple of years ago there was even a Gawker article (when they still existed), ragging on me for not including the fact that I was CEO of Patreon in a Medium article I wrote. anyway..... that's where it's coming from
@@JackConteExtras You've been all around this shit for years, and you still talk, write and act like a guy who just started company or a band and is infinitely excited about it. Thanks for all the great things.
@@JackConteExtras I'm genuinely curious about how you find time for all the projects you do on top of being a CEO. Are you constantly busy? Do you have enough people helping that it's manageable? Does it just seem like a lot to people on the outside since we're seeing the fruit of your labor all at once when in reality it's all small bits here and there? A combination of all these things? I've just noticed that CEOs and highly successful people always seem like they're busy 24/7 but are they actually? And if you are busy all the time, where do you get that sort of energy? Sorry for the wall of text, it truly just baffles me that you could be involved in so many things seemingly all at once.
@@TotallyAHumanNotADog hey Robert! The short answer is all of the above. Yes, it is a ton of work, and it takes a lot of hours. I’m in meetings about 50 hours per week, and then I work on top that - probably another 10-20 hours if you count up all the time I put into everything (mostly Patreon!). The big lesson for me, which I learned at Patreon, is the power of teams. And in particular - I learned the power of great leaders. If you look at each of the things I’m involved in, each of them has a great leader running it. Pomplamoose has Nataly leading the entire operation. Scary Pockets has Ryan. This TH-cam channel has Joe Smith (my producer). Patreon has a full management team (VPs who run operations, finance, marketing, product, engineering, etc). With Patreon, I’ve tried to bring in people who are smarter, more experienced, and more operationally capable than I am every step of the way as we’ve grown. Not only is this important since I’m a first time CEO and founder, but it’s important because it’s meant that I can continue to spend more time on my strengths as the company scales, rather than trying to do everything by myself. Teams are like superheroes. Great teams, with great leaders (like Nataly, Ryan, Joe, and Patreon’s management team) are able to accomplish 1000x what one individual is capable of. Take this video as an example. I *did not edit this video.* It would have taken me a month to make this video by myself, and it wouldn’t have been nearly as good. But Joe, my producer, organized this whole thing - the interviews, the graphics, the scheduling, the thumbnail - and John Picklap edited it. What was my role? I wanted to show the world the inside of Pomplamoose, so I came up with the framework of “people, process, money,” and wrote out a one page-ish vision for the video and few slides to explain the money segment & financials. It took a couple hours. But with awesome, creative teammates like Joe and John, it becomes a full blown 12 minute mini doc. That’s the power of teams.
Anyway - all that to say, I have come to deeply appreciate the leverage of teams. And yes, while it is definitely a ton of work for me, personally, it is only possible because of all the brilliant people who are leading each of the endeavors.
@@JackConteExtras Wow you really gave all this information for free...respect. Really insightful to be able to learn your way of thinking and execution
Hey beautiful souls, I have recently come across your music. I love everything about the vibe, the creativity, the community, and of course the music.
Thank you for all you do!
Your videos are so soothing. I feel like I'm not too much off track after all. Thanks for that!
Is scary pockets profitable, as well as stories and Larry Pockets?
Pockets, Inc. is a profitable company, yes. from a financial perspective, we have a similar approach to Pomplamoose, in that we basically re-invest all of our net income back into our work so we can grow and make better music and videos. Pockets, Inc., though, is slightly different from Pomplamoose in that our strategy isn't just developing ONE channel -- it's developing MULTIPLE channels, or "bands." So far, Pockets, Inc. has developed three such "bands:" 1) Scary Pockets, 2) Stories, and 3) Scary Goldings. Once Scary Pockets started growing and getting to a good place where we had significant net income, we started spinning up new projects. Our strategy is to use the net income generated by Scary Pockets as "startup funds" for those other projects. Right now, those startup projects, in and of themselves, are not yet generating a lot of revenue, and they're mostly being funded by Scary Pockets, which is the project that is most successful so far. One thing I'll note is that I do not take a salary from Pomplamoose, or from Pockets, Inc, mostly because I'm making a salary from Patreon. Ryan takes a salary from Pockets, and Nataly takes a salary for Pomplamoose, because it's both of their full time jobs. But because I'm not making any money from those projects, it means that we have some extra cash to re-invest back into our music, which is really great. If I were to take a salary, we would have to reduce our spending in order to continue to run them profitably. ANYWAY.... sorry to ramble!! i just thought it was a good question.
Thank you Jack for the detailed information about your many projects. I have admired your work for several years and am glad that you have become so successful. Your kindness, generosity, and enthusiasm show up in all you do. I hope my son, who is 8 and has a few years of piano under his belt, follows in your footsteps. You, your wife, and your friend ryan are living the dream. To get to do something you love with people you love is as good as it gets.
@@JackConteExtras That is very cool, keep doing what you do, you are an incredibly inspiring guy!
I’m curious why if it’s the same process and the same team, there’s so much variability in monthly earnings? It seems as though it would be a much narrower trading range from month-to-month. Can you explain that? Also, since you mostly do covers, aren’t you hit with heavy royalty payments?
our net income by month isn't smooth for a few reasons:
1) COVID has introduced some variability into our creative production process. As we're trying new processes (like recording remotely) with different cost profiles, we're spending different amounts of money each month.
2) We have special projects that pop up -- like a French album, or our original album that just dropped last month. We'll front load some expenses into those projects, like to create a batch of music videos, for example, for those endeavors, and it creates spikes of new costs. Sometimes we'll spend considerably more on one particular music video concept because we're excited about a particular song.
3) We batch production so we don't have to take as many trips to LA. Sometimes, we'll do 2-3 days in a row, and then not go back to LA for a couple months -- especially during COVID. That will create spikes of cost that appear high in one particular month.
4) On the income side, sometimes we'll get a big chunk in at once from a piece of merchandise -- like a vinyl album -- that will bring in a lot of revenue all at once, making net income look great that month. Or sometimes, we'll get a licensing gig, and it will pay $10k - $20k, and it makes that month's net income look particularly good.
Overall, though, our basic strategy is to 1) maintain a decent cash cushion so that we don't have to worry about cash flow issues -- that allows us to have lumpy net income over the year without stressing our pants off, and 2) invest almost all of our net income BACK into the band, because we love making music and want to keep making it better, keep investing in our team, keep growing, and keep investing in our creative work.
@@JackConteExtras - thank you for the detail and transparency...you ROCK !!!
Very well made, informative, interesting, AND AWESOME. Nice to have a peak at what goes on in the background of every pomplamoose video
You guys are such an inspiration for me, that's the kind of vibe that I want for me and my company too! Thank you for this video Jack!
Hello Jack and nataly, the pamplemoose heroes 😉I have a question, how are rights going, with the authors, compositors, singers, productors of the original songs? Are you asking always for the rights, and do they agree to let you make your own arrangements of their song easily?? And do you earn a little bit money with that? How does it works with Facebook, and other platforms like Spotify and so on? Because sometimes of these platforms prohibit and remove the videos, when you make covers, and rearrange it? I would like to know, excuse my English languages, because I m French 🤗!! I hope an answer from you, it will be a great pleasure, and it helps a lot of musicians, who have sometimes a lot of problems with these rights stories, who seems very difficult to have, to make a cover.. Thanks a lot for your answer.. Laurent from Paris, France 🇫🇷 😂 !!
"And that when I make something... someone gives a shit". God, yes, this is maybe all that I really want, deep down.
Excellent and rare view into your production company; appreciate your emphasis on processes!
Congratulations to you all, well deserved. Your music / videos / people, have such a great vibe 😊
when they said "mini" doc, they really really meant mini
"I choose to work with people who I just like as people." That is what is it all about Natalie.
Thank you - you are really inspiring and I'm so grateful that you are lifting the lid on what you do. Hardwork and understanding how an industry works is key and you are allowing new starters to understand a route to success.
Thank you for sharing this! I feel like these ways of existing for creative people are still so new and its helpful to see how it can work. I'm not even a musician, but a visual artist and this has still been an eye opener for me too. :)
I didn't see music royalties or sync rights in your expenses. That must be significant expense no?
Their cover songs are distributed by Soundrop (according to the ends of their song cover videos).
Soundrop's website says their pricing is $10/song to secure the license + 15% of revenue from digital music platforms
They put out roughly 40 song covers per year so they prob pay ~$400 per year. The 15% cut is prob already factored into their revenue
well done man - such an inspiration. Also great to see you posting on this channel again!
This is so cool. Thanks for making it. I can't believe how much y'all have grown over the years as creators and as businesspeople. 💛
You guys are an inspiration story. Love how you went from struggling artists to helping artists struggle less.
I'm not an obsessed fanboy, but my wife may think so as often as she has to hear me tell your story to friends.