Back in the early 1980s I used to use this as a defense to a front headlock. In freestyle, I would lift arching my back and take it for a high amplitude throw. At that time, it was defined as a throw where the opponent's feet exceded the height of his hips in a high arching motion taking the opponent directly to his back.
Adding in takedowns like this will take everyone by surprise and set up passes immediately. I love being a former wrestler and now blue belt in BJJ. Lol
I was watching DPS breakdowns video of throws from ncaa and I screen recorded this move every time it was hit because I wanted to learn how to do it. Thanks for the breakdown
Nice video. This is a variation of what we used to call a power duck. In the power duck, both guys are clamped on the neck, and the guy that steps in and arches wins the big throw. It is also the standard defense for what some call the snake. Which is basically a front headlock and a underhook. "Snaker" tries to dog the head and uplift the underhook and toss the defender to his back.
Man this could be an excellent counter to guillotine chokes in BJJ. This channel has been a gold mine even tho I never wrestled a day in my life. Much love!
We used to call it a hurdler's stretch throw cause you drop down like the old school hurdler's stretch and drive off that leg. You can also do a partial sweep with the extended leg by bringing the guy over. Back in the 90's we learned it in all different ties, not just the Russian back at Ken Chertows camps.
That's actually a really good name for it. And now you have me wondering what other positions you can do this move in. In a front headlock and the guy has an underhook and you have an overlook? Seems like it would be the same kind of leverage
@@earnyourgold in terms of getting the good leverage on the throw it's almost always going to be something with a tight grip on one arm. You can do it from an over/under, but your doing more of a trip by pulling them over your leg. It works great from a locked out 2 on 1, some people call it a key lock, but I'm sure there are other names. I used to hit it when guys would have a single on me. You overhook the single side as tight as possible. I put the leg he has up outside his leg with my knee on top of his for lots of pressure. Then you drop down into the hurdler's stretch. It works great because the leg he has up ends up being a great leverage point. It's almost like some Jiujitsu sweeps. When we learned it we did it from all kinds of ties, inside, outside elbows, but it doesn't work as good. If you can get to an overhook or Russian tie from those it works great. Doing it when the guy has a single is my favorite, cause they don't expect to get thrown
I used a variation of the Russian tie (similar bent elbow trapped position on opponents) to rack up pins back in the day. I wish it could get more mainstream usage. Too many kids nowadays like flashy shots at distance which is low percentage at converting.
Yeah I love the Russian tie. Didn't know too much about it when I was in high school, but it's really effective. I have like 3 other videos about it that I'm going to post some time this year
I like this move especially because you don't know you're in danger until it's too late, especially the guys that go straight for the headlock like at 8:37
Well, if someone has your arm locked tight in a Russian, you should have some inkling that they have something up their sleeve, and if you're not sure what it is, that's even scarier. Could be multiple things, but surely they have some bad intent. I tell my kids to push away on the head to (A) create distance to get out of it or (B) neutralize their leverage advantage. Though surely there's a counter to that as well. Which is why this sport is awesome.
@@bobmangino1746 yes I agree...a lot of wrestlers use 2 on 1 as a set up to something less menacing like a simple single leg. But to not know a 2on1 or Russian is about to take your to your back and possibly pinned is the amazing part of the move.
Yeah man the headlock is so instinctual for some guys that they don't even think about it. And this move isn't very common, so a lot of them don't realize they walking right into it
The two best defenses I've seen against the Russian is 1) pushing the head away and 2) Pulling the opposite elbow in. I'm going to post a video soon regarding what to do when the person pushes your head away. It's the only move I've ever seen work against that defense
So you are seriously like the Firas Zahabi of Wrestling. (He is GSP's coach and is a total genius. He used to do fantastic breakdowns of UFC fights but he would keep getting hit with copyright.)
@@earnyourgold So my son is a freshman and the only returning state qualifier is his weight. Pinned him with this move in open mat. Move is legit. He hit on me and it fucking hurts.
@@earnyourgold Yeah. Last night. We watched the video together, hit it a few times on our mat and he tried it out. He needs a lot more work of course. His go to tie is a russian anyway so this is just another weapon in the arsenal. There aren't a lot of effective big moves from the russian. But this one is.
it happens if wrestlers forgot basics - how to defend russian tie - even a kids knows that - push your opponents head out of your chest by your free hand.
Back in the early 1980s I used to use this as a defense to a front headlock. In freestyle, I would lift arching my back and take it for a high amplitude throw. At that time, it was defined as a throw where the opponent's feet exceded the height of his hips in a high arching motion taking the opponent directly to his back.
Everybody went big back in the 80s. Suplexes and arch throws
Thanks for the breakdown! When I see a brother's channel I just automatically subscribe 💪🏿✊🏿
I love this channel
I love making the videos man. Nice little hobby
Love these studies! I never wrestled in school just bjj, love the techniques
BJJ guys always showing love to the channel
Adding in takedowns like this will take everyone by surprise and set up passes immediately. I love being a former wrestler and now blue belt in BJJ. Lol
u guys think this could stop a guillotine?
In Minnesota we call that a Greco fireman's carry.
Greco fireman's carry is a pretty cool name for it not going to lie
I was watching DPS breakdowns video of throws from ncaa and I screen recorded this move every time it was hit because I wanted to learn how to do it. Thanks for the breakdown
Hopefully this video helps with that. Are you currently a HS wrestler?
@@earnyourgold freshman D3 wrestler I start practice on Monday
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Keep those Coming!!! Been Wrestling my whole life and my son won State in Illinois in 2014 at 182 with the Lat Drop!! Awesome video my man!!
That’s pretty cool
Best wrestling channel on YT
Thanks man I appreciate it
Nice video. This is a variation of what we used to call a power duck. In the power duck, both guys are clamped on the neck, and the guy that steps in and arches wins the big throw.
It is also the standard defense for what some call the snake. Which is basically a front headlock and a underhook. "Snaker" tries to dog the head and uplift the underhook and toss the defender to his back.
Have used this with success in bjj. Appreciate the analysis!
It's pretty cool that it's useful even in bjj
Man this could be an excellent counter to guillotine chokes in BJJ. This channel has been a gold mine even tho I never wrestled a day in my life. Much love!
Great channel. Keep up the good content
Thank you
great video. great analysis. well done. thanks for sharing
Thank you
I loved this move back in high school years ago , to add spice I’ll trip his in it a process to make look like a sweep
There was one clip where he seemed to do it more like a sweep/trip
O'Malley's a beast for this
Great channel bud!
Thanks man
We used to call it a hurdler's stretch throw cause you drop down like the old school hurdler's stretch and drive off that leg. You can also do a partial sweep with the extended leg by bringing the guy over. Back in the 90's we learned it in all different ties, not just the Russian back at Ken Chertows camps.
That's actually a really good name for it. And now you have me wondering what other positions you can do this move in. In a front headlock and the guy has an underhook and you have an overlook? Seems like it would be the same kind of leverage
@@earnyourgold in terms of getting the good leverage on the throw it's almost always going to be something with a tight grip on one arm. You can do it from an over/under, but your doing more of a trip by pulling them over your leg. It works great from a locked out 2 on 1, some people call it a key lock, but I'm sure there are other names. I used to hit it when guys would have a single on me. You overhook the single side as tight as possible. I put the leg he has up outside his leg with my knee on top of his for lots of pressure. Then you drop down into the hurdler's stretch. It works great because the leg he has up ends up being a great leverage point. It's almost like some Jiujitsu sweeps. When we learned it we did it from all kinds of ties, inside, outside elbows, but it doesn't work as good. If you can get to an overhook or Russian tie from those it works great. Doing it when the guy has a single is my favorite, cause they don't expect to get thrown
I used a variation of the Russian tie (similar bent elbow trapped position on opponents) to rack up pins back in the day. I wish it could get more mainstream usage. Too many kids nowadays like flashy shots at distance which is low percentage at converting.
Yeah I love the Russian tie. Didn't know too much about it when I was in high school, but it's really effective. I have like 3 other videos about it that I'm going to post some time this year
Awesome video
Thank you
Good stuff. Thanks.
I like this move especially because you don't know you're in danger until it's too late, especially the guys that go straight for the headlock like at 8:37
Well, if someone has your arm locked tight in a Russian, you should have some inkling that they have something up their sleeve, and if you're not sure what it is, that's even scarier. Could be multiple things, but surely they have some bad intent. I tell my kids to push away on the head to (A) create distance to get out of it or (B) neutralize their leverage advantage. Though surely there's a counter to that as well. Which is why this sport is awesome.
@@bobmangino1746 yes I agree...a lot of wrestlers use 2 on 1 as a set up to something less menacing like a simple single leg. But to not know a 2on1 or Russian is about to take your to your back and possibly pinned is the amazing part of the move.
Yeah man the headlock is so instinctual for some guys that they don't even think about it. And this move isn't very common, so a lot of them don't realize they walking right into it
The two best defenses I've seen against the Russian is 1) pushing the head away and 2) Pulling the opposite elbow in. I'm going to post a video soon regarding what to do when the person pushes your head away. It's the only move I've ever seen work against that defense
@@earnyourgold other defence, don't let someone get a 2 on 1 !!
game changing
Malley is a beast upper body
He really is. I still have a video on him that I haven’t even posted yet. He’s given me so much good content to post
Jesus this is so awesome!
Talk about mastering an unconventional move that’s awesome
Yeah he's even doing it at the highest level of wrestling. Pretty cool
Haha. That was my move. Works every time. Put your head down so they can reach over top. Then go. Right to their back.
I wonder why it isn't taught more often
a lat drop with the head replacing the underhook
Yeah that's a good way to think about it
So you are seriously like the Firas Zahabi of Wrestling. (He is GSP's coach and is a total genius. He used to do fantastic breakdowns of UFC fights but he would keep getting hit with copyright.)
he is baiting them with that head position.
Oh yeah 100%
@@earnyourgold So my son is a freshman and the only returning state qualifier is his weight. Pinned him with this move in open mat. Move is legit. He hit on me and it fucking hurts.
@@pauldarling330 was this recent?
@@earnyourgold Yeah. Last night. We watched the video together, hit it a few times on our mat and he tried it out. He needs a lot more work of course. His go to tie is a russian anyway so this is just another weapon in the arsenal. There aren't a lot of effective big moves from the russian. But this one is.
are bjj type sweeps allowed in wraslin?
I know next to nothing about BJJ. We have foot sweeps in wrestling if that’s what you’re asking about
I gotta learn this
ASAP
I'll save that for later
Let me know if you're able to hit anyone with it
Have you ever seen other guys hitting this move?
Not to my recollection. If you like this move you may also like the “Sucker Drag Lat Whip” video as well
@@earnyourgold I have watched it. So basically head position is different and decides which move to do?
@@michiel5160 the hand position is the main difference from what I noticed
Great move! Opponent thinks he has the upper hand and ends up on his back.
Yeah he baits them to get a front headlock, but he also has other offense from the Russian that I'm going to be posting
it happens if wrestlers forgot basics - how to defend russian tie - even a kids knows that - push your opponents head out of your chest by your free hand.
any example of this failing?