If you look back 1 further comment, you will see that this guy replied to a guy that said "M2K, Armada, Hungrybox, and Dr. PP are all just as good as Mango."
Okay, as much as I love Mango as a player, and he's tied with Hbox for my second favorite, sometimes I wish he would just lose. I wish Armada was still around kicking ass.
Armada is actually most likely going to Apex this year. Last I heard he didn't intend to enter singles though, but I'm sure the top players are preparing like he will.
I don't get your first part about me and tier lists. I also just said that I retracted my statement about Jiggs being mid tier, which speaks of my poor knowledge about tier lists. Also, I'm talking about Fox/Falco dittos in the finals of Melee. Wizzy doesn't just use DownB; that's the wrong move to do the Sonic Train and I never noticed HBox's spam. I don't hate Fox players, I hate fox players that act like elitists. What's confusing?
Okay, never mind. If you don't like how Wizzy plays with Sonic, then that's fine. I for one love how he plays with Sonic and that's all I'm going to say about that. These are just my views and are not facts; I've never stated them as such. Pushing that aside, Mang0 and HBox did great in this tournament.
Saying PP can't beat Hbox is some silly shit, Kevin's beat him the last 8 billion times in a row. Anyone in the top 4 can beat anyone, except seemingly M2K vs Hbox.
Honestly, I don't know what people are complaining about how characters like Jigglypuff can be able to beat Fox or Falco in tournaments. It's WAY more exciting to watch than dittos IMO. Melee gets stale to me when those matches happen in Melee. I love Fox, but I feel that he is overplayed way too much. Regardless, Mango did good with Fox. I didn't find these Grand Finals as exciting as watching Wizzy play Sonic on Project M. Please teach me the Way of the Hedgehog! :(
The point is that the other TOP players are all better than him at this point. OBVIOUSLY M2K is better than most people. I'd think that would go without say.
he has gotten first in lots of tournaments where he beats m2k in GF also he has beating mango at norcal regionals look /watch?v=ccoTN-kszhU there he got 1st but mango has won hungrybox lots of times.
Yes, I like it more than seeing Fox or Falco flashing with his reflector and shooting his Blaster every three seconds. Maybe you like it and that's fine with me. Maybe I'm just tired of Fox elitists going on and on about how Fox is the only way to win on Melee. Anyways, like I said. Mang0 and Hungrybox did pretty well in this tournament. It's always exciting to see a high tier character get challenged by a B or C tier character.
Fox isnt the only way to win, lol ... before Mango tried with him Falco and Peach was pretty dominant, before that on Evo's era Marth was the King... Melee history is like, Ken-Marth, M2K-Marth, Mango-Puff, Peach-Armada, Mango-Fox/Falco ... I don't see Fox winning ALL
What's confusing is that there aren't any fox players who are elitist. this is like the first tournament in several years that a fox has won (where the top players have shown up). If you don't know anything about competitive melee and the characters then stop complaining about it like you know anything. Just go watch wizzrobe press down b and side b and up b and neutral b.
m2k can beat hbox, he almost beat him, but fucked up near the end in a tight 3-2 set at Genesis 2. Although the last time m2k actually beat hbox was RoM 3/4. M2k just needs to play with confidence, that kid can beat anyone in the top 4/5 including armada.
Well, actually, Metaknight isn't hard to beat with a select few characters. Unfortunately, there are some characters that simply cannot keep up with Mk, even if creative. Mk is unbalanced, his frame rates make that insanely obvious; he is impossible to gimp and has sick priority. Furthermore, mk won 80% of all tournaments this past year if I recall correctly. Still, I agree, creativity is the driving force to some really cool game play.
Well, then I retract my previous statement and accept my lashing as an ignorant player. I really don't pay attention to tier lists due to me seeing them as nonsense in Melee at least. Brawl on the other hand is a different story... Still, Jigglypuff is pretty nuts and hard to fight with those long feet. XD As for the other comment, I'm just speaking from my own experience as there are some guys that act like elitists where I play Smash Bros Tournaments. That's all.
2:25-2:50 is why I really dislike prog's commentary. He thinks that Mango is the undisputed champ of melee. M2K, ARmada, HBox, and Dr. PP are all just as good as him.
Yeah but M2k was never better than any of the top 5 at any point in time. Saying his skill deteriorated "a FUCK ton" makes it sound like he was amazing and got worse when he never realy did.
Hate to do this but you're gonna look like a tool for this. Look at the first match on Battlefield. HBox's stock are Kirby stocks for some reason. They look like it.
Dude...your comments are all over the place -.- You don't care about tier lists yet you brought it up.. You call Jiggs mid tier but talk about how nuts she is with her range... You hate watching fox/falco laser and shine spam. I found this particularly funny. You named the two people who easily spam the most. Wizzy just uses DownB...and Hbox has been know for his bair spam since forever. Your only constant is you hate fox players
'Lightning doesn't strike twice, but Mango does' Well said :]
"Lightning doesn't strike twice. Mango does." Quote of the century
Anyone else notice that HB has kirby's face for his stock in that first set...I havent seen that glitch before
bdragonhand Stock glitch, google it. There are plenty of tutorials and explanations.
“LIGHT WORK SON” - The People’s Champ
Match 1, 2 and 4 were great.
cant tell if youre kidding but in case you're confused, hbox is using the kirby glitch to get kirby stocks..works with any character, not just puff
why does it show the stock face of white kirby instead of jigglypuff?
Serious question, what has Hungrybox gotten 1st in? It seems I always see him getting 2nd.
There's a glitch you choose jiggly then you hover over kirby press y then soft reset (L R Start)
So what does M2K have to do with Mango and Hbox?
Why do they switch controller ports after the second game?
in the first battle how come the jiggly puff stocks are shown as kirby stocks...?
If you look back 1 further comment, you will see that this guy replied to a guy that said "M2K, Armada, Hungrybox, and Dr. PP are all just as good as Mango."
Why is hbox's stocks kirby?
and he's still much better than everyone that isn't the other 4
Okay, as much as I love Mango as a player, and he's tied with Hbox for my second favorite, sometimes I wish he would just lose. I wish Armada was still around kicking ass.
Armada is actually most likely going to Apex this year. Last I heard he didn't intend to enter singles though, but I'm sure the top players are preparing like he will.
By god, It'd be great to see Armada win another large tournament.
he lost to m2k twice at recent tournaments
Dr. Peepee also has won against him a fair bit as of late.
+Reiden Lightman
sup
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"Lightning doesn't strike twice...Mango does."
Are you watching Armada
Mhm it's commonly referred to as the "icon glitch" and it's aesthetic so it doesn't affect normal gameplay
That was the perfect way to end the video after prog and D1 said that. #sadlymistaken
He beat mango at NCR kind of recently. I really don't think he's won a national since Apex 2010 though
I don't get your first part about me and tier lists.
I also just said that I retracted my statement about Jiggs being mid tier, which speaks of my poor knowledge about tier lists.
Also, I'm talking about Fox/Falco dittos in the finals of Melee. Wizzy doesn't just use DownB; that's the wrong move to do the Sonic Train and I never noticed HBox's spam.
I don't hate Fox players, I hate fox players that act like elitists. What's confusing?
10:37 Mango is such a mother father gentleman
that fox knows how to mix it up very well...hard to kill
watch mango's eyes at 8:39 on...he looks different places than most people
mango's shield is just...really amazing.
I think prog makes some good points in favor of his opinion, and he's allowed to have one. I may disagree a bit with him but I still enjoy listening.
Armada, where you at?
Okay, never mind. If you don't like how Wizzy plays with Sonic, then that's fine. I for one love how he plays with Sonic and that's all I'm going to say about that. These are just my views and are not facts; I've never stated them as such.
Pushing that aside, Mang0 and HBox did great in this tournament.
Saying PP can't beat Hbox is some silly shit, Kevin's beat him the last 8 billion times in a row. Anyone in the top 4 can beat anyone, except seemingly M2K vs Hbox.
Honestly, I don't know what people are complaining about how characters like Jigglypuff can be able to beat Fox or Falco in tournaments. It's WAY more exciting to watch than dittos IMO. Melee gets stale to me when those matches happen in Melee. I love Fox, but I feel that he is overplayed way too much.
Regardless, Mango did good with Fox. I didn't find these Grand Finals as exciting as watching Wizzy play Sonic on Project M. Please teach me the Way of the Hedgehog! :(
You are right sir.
actually what happens when you make him mad...llol he got 4 stocked and went mach 5 for the rest of the set
The point is that the other TOP players are all better than him at this point.
OBVIOUSLY M2K is better than most people.
I'd think that would go without say.
he has gotten first in lots of tournaments where he beats m2k in GF also he has beating mango at norcal regionals look /watch?v=ccoTN-kszhU there he got 1st but mango has won hungrybox lots of times.
M2K beat Mango handily at Apex, and was close to being the one going to Grand Finals here at Zenith. They're pretty much same level.
at 10:28 mango looks at the camera like : i got this. that's showmanship
All he was saying is Mango is trying to show he is the best. Prog never said that "mango is the best, fact." or something like that
this is set 2 lol, it was also like that for the whole set 1, its a kirby glitch
Yes, I like it more than seeing Fox or Falco flashing with his reflector and shooting his Blaster every three seconds. Maybe you like it and that's fine with me. Maybe I'm just tired of Fox elitists going on and on about how Fox is the only way to win on Melee.
Anyways, like I said. Mang0 and Hungrybox did pretty well in this tournament. It's always exciting to see a high tier character get challenged by a B or C tier character.
Wow... Mango 3 stocked Hbox every match except the 3rd game.
10:38 mango is so polite
If you think Hungrybox is on the same level as Mango after those two sets you clearly must have missed something...
Fox isnt the only way to win, lol ... before Mango tried with him Falco and Peach was pretty dominant, before that on Evo's era Marth was the King... Melee history is like, Ken-Marth, M2K-Marth, Mango-Puff, Peach-Armada, Mango-Fox/Falco ... I don't see Fox winning ALL
the first match has kirby picture stocks
that ending commentary
Goddamn, Mango. That last match.
He was calling it a dumb comment because Mango wasn't playing Jigglypuff.
What's confusing is that there aren't any fox players who are elitist. this is like the first tournament in several years that a fox has won (where the top players have shown up). If you don't know anything about competitive melee and the characters then stop complaining about it like you know anything.
Just go watch wizzrobe press down b and side b and up b and neutral b.
I was cheering for Mago but why the hate on hungrybox?
mango fox became my favorite at zenith .......
got DAMN
oh my mango
hbox beats mango on the west coast
mango beats hbox on the east coast
???
I wish i was there ;-;
00:20
he JUMPED out of that
O_O
it feels like mangos fox isnt a fox. hes more than s tear
mango's fox beats hbox jiggly
hbox jiggly beats armada's peach
armada's peach beats mango's fox
lol. funny how math works there.
i knew you could still care mango
oooooh yeah
Kirby stocks but no kirby? Huh?
m2k can beat hbox, he almost beat him, but fucked up near the end in a tight 3-2 set at Genesis 2. Although the last time m2k actually beat hbox was RoM 3/4. M2k just needs to play with confidence, that kid can beat anyone in the top 4/5 including armada.
Mango's jigglypuff's stocks look like kirby
That game 1 was filthy lol
search ssbwiki for "kirby glitch"
Does anyone see how amazing mangos DI is , 1:08 he goes no where haha
you enjoyed watching a ball move around the screen 2 times faster than falcon's run using homing attacks and hitting other characters? lol ok
Well, actually, Metaknight isn't hard to beat with a select few characters. Unfortunately, there are some characters that simply cannot keep up with Mk, even if creative. Mk is unbalanced, his frame rates make that insanely obvious; he is impossible to gimp and has sick priority. Furthermore, mk won 80% of all tournaments this past year if I recall correctly. Still, I agree, creativity is the driving force to some really cool game play.
Well, then I retract my previous statement and accept my lashing as an ignorant player. I really don't pay attention to tier lists due to me seeing them as nonsense in Melee at least. Brawl on the other hand is a different story... Still, Jigglypuff is pretty nuts and hard to fight with those long feet. XD
As for the other comment, I'm just speaking from my own experience as there are some guys that act like elitists where I play Smash Bros Tournaments. That's all.
12:57 Lol.
Not stoned but he usually seems to have drank a good bit before a tournament.
11:10.
Hbox blew a lot of edgeguards :/ he could've taken it
11:18 mango taunts again
#SadlyMistaken
Epic hashtag ending.
no they arent
I don't think you understand math.
face HB(sadface) 2:30
2:25-2:50 is why I really dislike prog's commentary. He thinks that Mango is the undisputed champ of melee. M2K, ARmada, HBox, and Dr. PP are all just as good as him.
Yeah but M2k was never better than any of the top 5 at any point in time. Saying his skill deteriorated "a FUCK ton" makes it sound like he was amazing and got worse when he never realy did.
jiggs is high tier ...
Hate to do this but you're gonna look like a tool for this. Look at the first match on Battlefield. HBox's stock are Kirby stocks for some reason. They look like it.
Lolno. M2K has deteriorated in skill a FUCK ton.
#mangonation.
Well, he used to have autistic tech skill and would go for Fox thing no one else would.
Then he played Brawl, and now everything he does is lazy.
Dude...your comments are all over the place -.-
You don't care about tier lists yet you brought it up..
You call Jiggs mid tier but talk about how nuts she is with her range...
You hate watching fox/falco laser and shine spam. I found this particularly funny. You named the two people who easily spam the most. Wizzy just uses DownB...and Hbox has been know for his bair spam since forever.
Your only constant is you hate fox players
So many scrubs in the comments..