Jak I just wanna say thanks alot for all the guides and videos! I started playing this game in Dragonflight season 1 as a hunter and in S3 I made the transition to disc priest. I'm always trying to improve and I've come a really long way thanks to all your videos and guides. I've always wanted to be able to time +20s (now +10s) to get my first portal ever (just a personal goal of mine) and thanks to all your guides and the WoW head disc priest page, you made, I just managed to time my very first +10 (COT)!! Thanks a lot for all your explanations, you really gave me a passion for such an interesting and unique healer and this wouldn't have happened without your guides!
Thanks Jak for this very comprehensive guide. I will be maining voidweaver disc and giving it my best as i have since S1 SL. Looking forward to the raid guide when it comes out too. Keep up the great work!
Bro I was watching you during Legion and then I stopped playing and now that I'm coming back... there you are! Last time I was the main priest in the first guild of the server, but my raid leader only let me play holy despite I proved him I could play disc (I respeced and we downed the boss, he didn't even notice until after and he was furious). This time I'm gonna play disc no matter what! (holy is still fun thought)
Dedusted my lvl53 priest today because of you (did the same with the Holy Pala)! It somehow feels super natural to heal the way you describe it here - lets see where this healer ends up. What would really be helpful though is to see your approach to gearing up! Especially for returning players. I saw your livestream and you were setting orders to build gear (WTF!?! Is this eve online)´?)... would be super helpful
Just got keystone master as disc, took a couple different talents, pword life, ultimate penitence. It’s helpful when you pug and don’t have the people in voice. Nobody has complained about my healing yet so I think you’re right, don’t let the tier list get you down, disc is super fun to play.
With no previous experience with priest in any way shape or form, this guide rocks straight to the point and no bad habits formed yet. You sir are shaping the upcoming priest
I'm so torn on disc; I think it's a really fun playstyle, and do *eventually* end up playing disc in most expansions, but I feel like you have to work so much harder for the same or lesser results than you'd get for playing holy; especially in the first season or two. Either way it's nice to have the option, even if I just play disc for low keys and switch to holy to push.
As someone who loved the earlier iteration of disc im really disappointed that oracle struggles with damage in an m+ setting. Imo vw is everything blizzard gets wrong about disc as an identity
Disc suffers mainly when people don't know mechanics. Disc shines when damage is predicted. The weakness is that it is not a reactive healer. The actual HPS that disc can throw is top tier.
Quick tip. I believe renew is VERY underrated. I’m currently on 32% haste and I perma use it from pack to pack mid HP targets (with divine star/Empowered holy nova). I didn’t realize the power renew held until I got the trinket Gale of shadows. It gives you really good INT every time a DoT/HoT ticks. Also, I really think it’s good to drop on the tank when I drop the shield on him pre pull. Then as soon as he’s in combat I start purging all enemies (excluding two) and let penance spread the dot naturally. A lot of people say disc has no mana issues, I say you can afford being abit more mana hungry. Thoughts?
Thanks! I wasn't expecting to take my priest through TWW as early as this, but I did and decided disc was the way to go. It's VERY new to me. Not much healing in my line up, and I leveled him in Remix so I didn't actually play him. Getting into normals now has been interesting. Definitely was overusing my Renew to get quick Atonements, but yeah, not the best. It's also on my middle mouse which is also my PING system, so I don't know how to solve that haha Largely though I had the class correct, just gotta get used to the pace of dungeons as this kind of healer.
Thank you for posting! Disc is soooo much fun right now…. I picked prayer of mending as well, It’s nice to throw one on the tank before a big pull, then I get a few seconds of bouncing heal while I crank out a Atonement and then full rotation,
I am going to try oracle in m+. I like the talent, that pw radiance is casted instantly, which could be really life-saver in case I need to heal and move at the same time, which caused me a wipe many times in a past 😅
Disc's identity has been Neutered imo and voidweaver is just an amalgamation of everything wrong with blizzards implementation of disc. As a disc glad from wotlk through mop and a season in SL, oracle is what disc should be a support absorb healer.
I think one of the major issues with disc is they don’t have the plethora of abilities that holy does and they can’t always dish out emergency spot heals as needed and their cooldowns are more preventive than actual hps. They’re great about not overheating though
Problem is Evoker is just pumping x-times the damage and heal-numbers, thats how I feel after playing disc, evoker and sham, disc just doesnt put out the numbers
Just to throw this out but do I truly need an add on to be an effective healer? I do fine without them but feel almost railroaded to needing something like heal bot if I don't want to let down my squad. Do you use the add ons because it makes it playable or is it more to enhance your play when you're already good?
@@AutomaticJak I didn't realize there was a link to the build. Thank you. Sorry for the confusion. You've helped me be a better priest for years. Love your channel. Cheers.
hey man, been following all your videos and love them! just wondered how you got the party frames under your weak auras? im rubbish with ui stuff but i just cant get it too look like yours!
New discipline player, have never played healer in wow, and haven't played since cata, but what's over healing? Is it a mana concern? Or is it a problem that's related to threat?
I might miss something important but whats the Yellow AOE that pops randomly around Jak Its a Radiance, and not a spell (dont show on hes tracker in top left corner) A passive? An item? If someone have the answer that would be great (Love your videos, live ans guides Jak. Youre awesome)
Mainly as damage gets spikier and burstier in mythic+ that its harder to "catch" the right timing of PWL someone rather than just shielding/healing them
its a lie and missinformation, disc are fantartic right now espacially voidweaver. Im playin disc more then 15 years and i can confirm its more then playable for 1st season !!
@@psikiatriekimi What kind of keys are you doing? In +7s/8s so far, I've found Disc to be arguably the weakest healer. I prefer to take a Rshaman or Preservation evoker. They seem to do WAY more healing, way more reliably. Voidweaver Disc feels alright(ish) with mindbender and entropic rift out, but for the 18sec or so they're down, Disc feels like it has no HPS and people just die.
The fact that disc priest is almost exclusively used as the MDI healer now should tell you that there is more to the story than simple tier lists made by some TH-camrs.
You are completely fine playing disc priest while leveling. Overall there is no class or spec that is unplayable while leveling but you only see the full potential of a spec when you reached max level and some gear upgrades.
is disc finally back with high dps compared to other healers (eg as it was in legion) or is every healer still doing plenty of dmg by default with just one spell (while disc whole personality is about doing dmg) as it was in DF so they literally don't bring anything new to the table? xD
hi jack ty for this super cool guide like always please do you can advice me i dont khnow play Disc priest or Holy paladin for raid my focus is raid some players says to me Disc can be good in Raid and i love Disc so much but i scare about Healing dne or low Hps please do you can tell me Disc is good in Raid? and please please make a guide for Disc Raid ty so much 🥰😇
in a nutshell, start your atonement application maybe about 14 seconds before damage happens and just before boss finishes its cast time, start dpsing. It is like playing the piano! Holy Paladin way easier, In a nutshell just holy shock when someone needs healing. Both are extremely extremely fun in raid and ofc I m super biased here :)
Do we frequently apply shields manually on allies over PW: Radiance? I feel the cd is quite low so I see myself using if kinda freely xD is that correct?
@@JustDiscipline Watch previous videos of Jack himself suggesting that about how bad and almost unplayable Disc Priest is/will be in TWW during beta testing... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@MrMrbambus that's a gross overstatement. and depth of shadows gives free pets in between Mindbenders if you're good at targeting, plus a myriad of other major CDs
Also I said it in another video but disc has no real class fantasy right now and is stupid and convoluted. Needs to be either the giga shielder or get completely changed and maybe turned into a support style class like aug since its playstyle already is the closest to augs out of all specs. Disc and aug are easily the two dumbest specs class-fantasy-wise.
@@thatepicwizardguy holy paladin and rsham were the support classes back then. Aug has nothing in common with disc. In fact both priest healing specs are better suited for raid, but lack in M+ in terms of utility.
Because everyone watches tier list videos which is really only for the mythic raids or highest keys, then eveyone rejects them for lower keys where they are perfectly fine.
Oracle is way better than voidweaver, the amount of haste right now is so low, when you try to cast radiance is a waste of time the boss always put a aoe the moment you start casting and it is an enemy AI feature means when you do that you have to cancel the casting and reposition by the moment you recast 2sec cast time all your party is dead including the tank, oracle make the radiance instant when you activate preminition and there is a another talen that can reduce premonition cooldown which means is way better than void weaver your attunments have more duration which is way better than do damage in my opinion and also in oracle and when you apply a shield you also apply prayer of mending whichs is the best.
Trying to learn Disc and you explained it to me like im a 5 year old. Love it! Thanks for the great video!
Anytime!
haven't subbed to anyone in a longtime - you are worth it. Well done. I appreciate your cadence and tone.
Jak I just wanna say thanks alot for all the guides and videos! I started playing this game in Dragonflight season 1 as a hunter and in S3 I made the transition to disc priest. I'm always trying to improve and I've come a really long way thanks to all your videos and guides. I've always wanted to be able to time +20s (now +10s) to get my first portal ever (just a personal goal of mine) and thanks to all your guides and the WoW head disc priest page, you made, I just managed to time my very first +10 (COT)!! Thanks a lot for all your explanations, you really gave me a passion for such an interesting and unique healer and this wouldn't have happened without your guides!
Thanks Jak for this very comprehensive guide. I will be maining voidweaver disc and giving it my best as i have since S1 SL. Looking forward to the raid guide when it comes out too. Keep up the great work!
what a great and clear guide, thank you
I appreciate this video :D I was stuck at 1600 rating trying to heal as Holy, I watched this video and switched to Disc and now i'm BLASTIN'!
Glad I could help!
Bro I was watching you during Legion and then I stopped playing and now that I'm coming back... there you are! Last time I was the main priest in the first guild of the server, but my raid leader only let me play holy despite I proved him I could play disc (I respeced and we downed the boss, he didn't even notice until after and he was furious). This time I'm gonna play disc no matter what! (holy is still fun thought)
Thanks for this video, made me switch from holy and try discipline again. :)
You got this!
Much needed upload , thanks Jak it really helps a ton
the thumbnails are insane haha
Can't wait the holy guide
Dedusted my lvl53 priest today because of you (did the same with the Holy Pala)! It somehow feels super natural to heal the way you describe it here - lets see where this healer ends up. What would really be helpful though is to see your approach to gearing up! Especially for returning players. I saw your livestream and you were setting orders to build gear (WTF!?! Is this eve online)´?)... would be super helpful
Just got keystone master as disc, took a couple different talents, pword life, ultimate penitence. It’s helpful when you pug and don’t have the people in voice. Nobody has complained about my healing yet so I think you’re right, don’t let the tier list get you down, disc is super fun to play.
lol now its S tier
With no previous experience with priest in any way shape or form, this guide rocks straight to the point and no bad habits formed yet. You sir are shaping the upcoming priest
Amazing thumbnails as usual lol feel like sometimes I look forward to seeing what the thumbnail is more than the video xD
Give a raise to the person who designs your thumbnails! If it's you... shake my hand!
Looks like it's just an AI generates imagine with some touching up and added text in photoshop
just shit ai images, nothing impressive
Definitely the best guide for DISC priest! Thank JAK!
I gotchu
Great video 💯 I'll keep all this advice in mind
Thank you! Very clear and educational :)
Glad it was helpful!
Laughed out loud when I saw the tank's name was "Morehealspls"
I'm so torn on disc; I think it's a really fun playstyle, and do *eventually* end up playing disc in most expansions, but I feel like you have to work so much harder for the same or lesser results than you'd get for playing holy; especially in the first season or two. Either way it's nice to have the option, even if I just play disc for low keys and switch to holy to push.
As someone who loved the earlier iteration of disc im really disappointed that oracle struggles with damage in an m+ setting. Imo vw is everything blizzard gets wrong about disc as an identity
Agreed it just feels like another shadow priest now just for healing
Disc suffers mainly when people don't know mechanics.
Disc shines when damage is predicted.
The weakness is that it is not a reactive healer.
The actual HPS that disc can throw is top tier.
Disc gets tortured by mates not playing mechanics xD
Quick tip. I believe renew is VERY underrated. I’m currently on 32% haste and I perma use it from pack to pack mid HP targets (with divine star/Empowered holy nova).
I didn’t realize the power renew held until I got the trinket Gale of shadows. It gives you really good INT every time a DoT/HoT ticks.
Also, I really think it’s good to drop on the tank when I drop the shield on him pre pull. Then as soon as he’s in combat I start purging all enemies (excluding two) and let penance spread the dot naturally. A lot of people say disc has no mana issues, I say you can afford being abit more mana hungry. Thoughts?
Thanks! I wasn't expecting to take my priest through TWW as early as this, but I did and decided disc was the way to go. It's VERY new to me. Not much healing in my line up, and I leveled him in Remix so I didn't actually play him. Getting into normals now has been interesting. Definitely was overusing my Renew to get quick Atonements, but yeah, not the best. It's also on my middle mouse which is also my PING system, so I don't know how to solve that haha Largely though I had the class correct, just gotta get used to the pace of dungeons as this kind of healer.
Nice vid, ty bro. Keep going :)
Appreciate it!
Thank you for posting! Disc is soooo much fun right now….
I picked prayer of mending as well, It’s nice to throw one on the tank before a big pull, then I get a few seconds of bouncing heal while I crank out a Atonement and then full rotation,
that is a great thumbnail
hope this goes up with current buffs. Feels decent in heroics rn. It’s my favorite priest spec
Wait till packs live longer, not gonna be great sadly 😢
The tip how to use rapture rly made sense. Used it primarily reactive and felt it was underwhelming. Ty
I am going to try oracle in m+. I like the talent, that pw radiance is casted instantly, which could be really life-saver in case I need to heal and move at the same time, which caused me a wipe many times in a past 😅
Nah you need the dmg from the other tree
@@Daniel-kn9xr m+ will show :)
I think at that point you're just better off playing Holy Priest instead...
Disc's identity has been Neutered imo and voidweaver is just an amalgamation of everything wrong with blizzards implementation of disc. As a disc glad from wotlk through mop and a season in SL, oracle is what disc should be a support absorb healer.
HERESY, holy is the only path to the light
perfect, for the healer I AM playing
I think one of the major issues with disc is they don’t have the plethora of abilities that holy does and they can’t always dish out emergency spot heals as needed and their cooldowns are more preventive than actual hps. They’re great about not overheating though
Man this looks fun asf I just only have played holy.
This is an incredible video & guide, would it be possible to use this same build for pvp battlegrounds? it seems like it has insane potential.
Waiting for shaman video, let’s gooooooo
Still waiting on that Pally video Jak!
lol!
I was half expecting this to be a 5s video with one word, "Don''t."
press n
Honestly same considering how much he said they were complicated and way undertuned lol
Problem is Evoker is just pumping x-times the damage and heal-numbers, thats how I feel after playing disc, evoker and sham, disc just doesnt put out the numbers
@@jakob-music prevoker has insane fucking numbers. I hit 400k+ Dps in a heroic rookery lol
Disc is nuts right now. Idk what y'all are talking about. You might be playing it wrong
i love disc and holy.. I always play that spec what is not so popular ^^
but idk what spec is popular xD
Hi! Thanks for the comprehensive guide! Is your WA for Disc available to download?
It’s in the description!
@@AutomaticJak Did you modify Luxthos‘ WA? Mine Looks different.
Bit of advice. I find my atonments drop quite quick. Is this a learning curve or am not doing something to extend it
15:42 well well well it seems like now it does hahaha
Hi, do you have any guide on how you have configured your addons? I would like to start playing with your interface.
In the description!
What do you think about Indemnity vs. Exaltation?
I feel like I will need UP in order to have more throughput. Which is clunky and gets me killed while they die to poisons... oh well.
What do you use for Healing? Do you use Heal Bot or something else?
Cell. All my addons are in the description and ui video on my channel
Just to throw this out but do I truly need an add on to be an effective healer? I do fine without them but feel almost railroaded to needing something like heal bot if I don't want to let down my squad. Do you use the add ons because it makes it playable or is it more to enhance your play when you're already good?
I love how the only priest in the top 1% are disc xD
any advice on gearing? :D and crafts
14:09 thats the archon hero talent icon not oracle
Can't wait for you to show how to spec into Halo cause all of your videos leave that part out.
Cast during Scov and win
@@AutomaticJak what points to take out of where to spec into halo and win?
@@AutomaticJak avid follower.
I'm confused now. Doesn't my talent build in the description link to halo?
@@AutomaticJak I didn't realize there was a link to the build. Thank you. Sorry for the confusion. You've helped me be a better priest for years. Love your channel.
Cheers.
hey man, been following all your videos and love them! just wondered how you got the party frames under your weak auras? im rubbish with ui stuff but i just cant get it too look like yours!
Man im spec’ed all wrong. I def havent ran anything crazy tough yet so makes me nervous to watch this and realize im playing all wrong
it says on wowhead to focus haste the mastery. is the stat prio that you listed still true in your opinion
Haste mastery for healing
Haste vers for living
New discipline player, have never played healer in wow, and haven't played since cata, but what's over healing? Is it a mana concern? Or is it a problem that's related to threat?
Healing a target that is full HP. For some healer specs it can be an issue but for Discipline its natural and not an issue at all.
@AutomaticJak i understand that, but what's the downside to doing that is what I meant I guess. Awesome video btw
I might miss something important but whats the Yellow AOE that pops randomly around Jak
Its a Radiance, and not a spell (dont show on hes tracker in top left corner)
A passive? An item?
If someone have the answer that would be great
(Love your videos, live ans guides Jak. Youre awesome)
Fiery Resolve Weapon Enchant!
hi jack . what can i unlearn from my tallent if i would want borrowed time in my tallent build?
Hey Jak, love your vids. I know you mention spot healing a bit in the vid. Is there a reason you pick Benevolence talent over Power Word Life?
Mainly as damage gets spikier and burstier in mythic+ that its harder to "catch" the right timing of PWL someone rather than just shielding/healing them
Hello, Jack. What UI are you using for Mythic+? And do you have a raid version, too?
In the description!
@@AutomaticJak Thank you, Sir! Keep up the great content.
almost everyone on utube puts disc as almost unplayable for m+, which is disappointing
its a lie and missinformation, disc are fantartic right now espacially voidweaver. Im playin disc more then 15 years and i can confirm its more then playable for 1st season !!
@@psikiatriekimi What kind of keys are you doing? In +7s/8s so far, I've found Disc to be arguably the weakest healer. I prefer to take a Rshaman or Preservation evoker. They seem to do WAY more healing, way more reliably. Voidweaver Disc feels alright(ish) with mindbender and entropic rift out, but for the 18sec or so they're down, Disc feels like it has no HPS and people just die.
2200 rateing disc priest it's very strong rn I'd say it's the 2nd best healer
@@NavyPharmD tbh that's how I feel about rdruid right now.
The fact that disc priest is almost exclusively used as the MDI healer now should tell you that there is more to the story than simple tier lists made by some TH-camrs.
Will you make a raid healing guide?
Yep!
Jak, am I screwing myself over if I choose Disc as my first healer spec?
Nah it owns now!
Hi, I;'m new to disc priest and i was wondering is disc priest is playable at lvl 60 lvling thru dungeons? or is it only playable at lvl 70?
Yep!
You are completely fine playing disc priest while leveling. Overall there is no class or spec that is unplayable while leveling but you only see the full potential of a spec when you reached max level and some gear upgrades.
I hope I can get aotc as disc , but will go holy in keys :D
is disc finally back with high dps compared to other healers (eg as it was in legion) or is every healer still doing plenty of dmg by default with just one spell (while disc whole personality is about doing dmg) as it was in DF so they literally don't bring anything new to the table? xD
@AutomaticJak Would you rather take Power Word: Life or Benevolence talent?
Beneveloence
Radiance sounds like Temporl Anomaly, Powerword Shield/Renew/Flash heal sounds like Echo. One blasts damage after hp goes down, one blasts healing.
yea the first time evoker came out I was like omg they copy pasted disc and added all the things disc was lacking, thanks.
hi jack ty for this super cool guide like always please do you can advice me i dont khnow play Disc priest or Holy paladin for raid my focus is raid some players says to me Disc can be good in Raid and i love Disc so much but i scare about Healing dne or low Hps please do you can tell me Disc is good in Raid? and please please make a guide for Disc Raid ty so much 🥰😇
in a nutshell, start your atonement application maybe about 14 seconds before damage happens and just before boss finishes its cast time, start dpsing. It is like playing the piano!
Holy Paladin way easier, In a nutshell just holy shock when someone needs healing.
Both are extremely extremely fun in raid and ofc I m super biased here :)
@@vanguelisk ty so much for help 🥰😘
This is absolutely sick. I’m switching from holy today.
Hope you enjoy it!
Do we frequently apply shields manually on allies over PW: Radiance? I feel the cd is quite low so I see myself using if kinda freely xD is that correct?
I often prefer radiances since one person being low frequently leads to others dropping low
Is disco so much better than holy on m+?
Yep
Those luxthos weak auras look customized.
What is that addon for health bars ?
Cell, my ui is the description!
I miss when disc was about popping shields and not being the worst healer and DPS simultaneously.
you didnt explain show the left tree in the talents..
You almost never take different talent choices so the talent build linked here should be good for most all situations :)
NGL. Came here for the thumbnail, 6/5.
ty gamer o7
Anyone know where can I find soft caps for M+? I have 28% haste but only 12% crit. Can't figure out what stats to choose next.
Moar haste. Don’t worry abt caps
Really viable? Its my first time healing, btw nice UI!
Disc is cool, but resto is just much easier and more chill to me.
SO easy and laid back. lol
what addons are you using sir?
In the description!
Holy Priest plssss
Sooooon
Is this still viable for now?
Got buffed after this video so it’s insanely good rn
Great video Jak! Do you have a link to the weakauras you use?
In the description!
Injust leveled a disc, cuz its hell of fun, but is he capable of high keys? Everyone says disc Lacks in to.much things esp. In m+, what do u think?
Disc just got buffed today!
Where is gear and embelishment section?:P
Been a lot of adjustments to trinkets and embellishments so I’ll have a separate video for em rather than have something here that gets outdated fast
u didnt show the priest talets just disc talents
Wtf happened to Barrier? 20% damage reduction?! When did they nerf it to the ground? It was 50% last in DF!
That was for pvp i believe
@AutomaticJak oh? Damn that sucks, i could of swore it was more back in PvE in previous expansions.
It was 25%
I was the thousandth like! woohoo!
chat are we back??
I thought it was unanimously declared Disc Priest was pretty much unplayable in TWW M+ S1 unless devs do make some huge changes?
Who declared that? lol it's just bandwagon hopping when people say those kind of things.
@@JustDiscipline Watch previous videos of Jack himself suggesting that about how bad and almost unplayable Disc Priest is/will be in TWW during beta testing... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@lovelywaz that's ridiculous, don't believe it. Developers wouldn't make any spec of theirs unplayable.
Disc is pretty bad in keys atm though, no pet, no healing
@@MrMrbambus that's a gross overstatement. and depth of shadows gives free pets in between Mindbenders if you're good at targeting, plus a myriad of other major CDs
Im so sorry. But where is the priest talents? Could you please point me?
In the description!
@@AutomaticJak Thanks lot! Appreciate it.
Welp its been days. Ive seen exactly ZERO disc priests anywhere. Not expecting to run into them in m+ down the road unless something changes
Also I said it in another video but disc has no real class fantasy right now and is stupid and convoluted. Needs to be either the giga shielder or get completely changed and maybe turned into a support style class like aug since its playstyle already is the closest to augs out of all specs.
Disc and aug are easily the two dumbest specs class-fantasy-wise.
@@thatepicwizardguy holy paladin and rsham were the support classes back then. Aug has nothing in common with disc. In fact both priest healing specs are better suited for raid, but lack in M+ in terms of utility.
@@thatepicwizardguytbh, most priests I've talked to IRL are stupid and convoluted, so I'd say the class fantasy is spot on.
Because everyone watches tier list videos which is really only for the mythic raids or highest keys, then eveyone rejects them for lower keys where they are perfectly fine.
Hey Jak, why didn’t you pick TE, which will give void blast 15% damage buff even if there is no precast of light spells?
Didn't know that! I'll report the bug since I don't imagine that's intended
@@AutomaticJak Will there be a raid guide for disc?
Yep! in the works!
So Jak would you consider discipline to be a proactive healer?
100%
If atonement healing/damage is the focus of season 1 why is mastery the worst stat?
Doesn’t contribute to damage. Mastery is good for more healing
"disc might struggle at the very .1% key levels"
this didnt age well 😅
They buffed Disc twice after this video :)
@AutomaticJak yes sir that's why I'm here ;)
third
wow so the gameplay hasnt changed at all huh... this is pretty disappointing. think ill skip disc this time around
Oracle is way better than voidweaver, the amount of haste right now is so low, when you try to cast radiance is a waste of time the boss always put a aoe the moment you start casting and it is an enemy AI feature means when you do that you have to cancel the casting and reposition by the moment you recast 2sec cast time all your party is dead including the tank, oracle make the radiance instant when you activate preminition and there is a another talen that can reduce premonition cooldown which means is way better than void weaver your attunments have more duration which is way better than do damage in my opinion and also in oracle and when you apply a shield you also apply prayer of mending whichs is the best.