completely wrong 'facts' about the episode of the 3 Day Week, strangely - but what he said _is_ how a lot of people 'remember' it. Callaghan's government followed Heath's Conservative government, the one which actually instituted the 3 Day week.
@Hirvassalo one example would be the so-called "necessity" for dairy for enough calcium intake. In nature other animals don't eat other species' milk except anomalous cases. The countries with lowest dairy intake have much lower rates of osteoperosis. Sunlight and exercise maybe factors, but it is possible that the unnatural abundance of calcium in cow's milk (human milk is much less and needed in infancy only in nature anway) causes a shock expulsion of body calcium via urination.
First of all Iran as well as other nations has shown that a country can lower birth rates with mild and noncontroversial reforms. Iran managed to lower birth rates from 6.5 to 1.67 in about three decades. Only by using, education, free contraception and less subsidies for women with more children that three. "Excuse me, Professor, how many legitimate children did you have?" Argumentum ad hominem, thus an irrelevant argument.
@fortrosenz I suppose he wished not to be prompted to make any estimates as to WHEN the food crisis would be expected to occur. The reason for that would be the fact that all previous Malthusian estimates for that have failed due to not being able to predict the technologies increasing food production. Therefore, to openly predict such a disaster is to risk to maintain the economists' optimism. At the point when even they'd have to admit, as A.A.Bartlett has shown, it'd be too late.
As long as GM companies are run by profiteers and psychopaths, that won't help much. There is too much invested interest in control and power. We need a massive breakdown of these mental structures which can only happen through chaos and a great extent of painful experiences, unfortunately, but at the end of the day people will be thankful, if they choose to learn. This is probably about to happen, if we are lucky, with the financial system collapsing, before the biological one does.
Great talk and points at the end. Although I see that population is an enormous issue I still believe the key solution is to inspire wisdom and compassion, and appropriate actions, starting with the self. If rich countries don't radically reduce their meat and dairy intake, CO2 and other ecological footprint AS WELL as ethically planning their families, then they can't expect non-fascist population control. Speaking as a vegan, who e.g. flew e.g. 2x in the last 15 years... still not perfect
@innerrevolution1 An excellent point, though reducing meat&dairy even to the recommended levels (which is at least as low as I've reduced it to) would help quite a bit, since (at least as Finland and USA are concerned) the consumption of those is several times higher than recommended. For instance, the Finnish recommendation is max. 0,3 kilograms/week (of meat), but an average Finn consumes 1,419 kg/week. And an average US citizen is even worse, at 2,378 kg/week.
@Hirvassalo Sounds like you are on the right track ;-) Over time since becoming vegan (99%) I find I don't miss cheese or fish much, and meat even less. I still have a sweet-tooth sometimes but don't like the really sweet stuff anymore. The body gets used to good things when we change our gut bacteria through healthy diet. It seems like a natural progression. I am sure dairy protein can help build muscle but interestingly there are vegan body-builders, too!
Brilliant lecture from a wonderful human being. I would urge anyone to view his BBC series "Earth Story". Regarding the human population, I think the phrase "boiling the frog slowly" comes to mind.
@innerrevolution1 I've personally experienced dairy to be pretty useful in building muscle mass, but I'm also planning to restrict its consumption to when exercising. My main animal food is fish, though most of my protein now comes from veggie sources anyway. Grains&dairy are a fairly recent adition to human diet, so there is a good deal of personal variation as to how healthy they are (yeastless whole rye bread works best for me!). Processed meat is bad for everyone, though!
This biologist isn't being completely honest. He must know that nature's way to balance a population is food scarcity. He finally says something like that right at the very end of the question session.
Temporary strain from population comes from our technological inability to meet the scarcity caused by additional people. The answer when you have 4 hats & 5 heads is not to cut off the extra head, but to find a way through innovation to make another hat. We've been finding ways 2do that since we exceeded natural equilibrium millions of years ago. We will continue doing so - while alarmists & crackpot Malthusians like the man above, have been wrong for 200+ years, & they will continue 2b wrong.
great talk, it was an honor being able to be in attendance
completely wrong 'facts' about the episode of the 3 Day Week, strangely - but what he said _is_ how a lot of people 'remember' it. Callaghan's government followed Heath's Conservative government, the one which actually instituted the 3 Day week.
@Hirvassalo one example would be the so-called "necessity" for dairy for enough calcium intake. In nature other animals don't eat other species' milk except anomalous cases. The countries with lowest dairy intake have much lower rates of osteoperosis. Sunlight and exercise maybe factors, but it is possible that the unnatural abundance of calcium in cow's milk (human milk is much less and needed in infancy only in nature anway) causes a shock expulsion of body calcium via urination.
Enormously interesting and manifestly significant.
We have to halt population growth. Then we can seriously address sustainability.
Stimulating and thoughtful
First of all Iran as well as other nations has shown that a country can lower birth rates with mild and noncontroversial reforms. Iran managed to lower birth rates from 6.5 to 1.67 in about three decades. Only by using, education, free contraception and less subsidies for women with more children that three.
"Excuse me, Professor, how many legitimate children did you have?"
Argumentum ad hominem, thus an irrelevant argument.
@fortrosenz I suppose he wished not to be prompted to make any estimates as to WHEN the food crisis would be expected to occur. The reason for that would be the fact that all previous Malthusian estimates for that have failed due to not being able to predict the technologies increasing food production. Therefore, to openly predict such a disaster is to risk to maintain the economists' optimism. At the point when even they'd have to admit, as A.A.Bartlett has shown, it'd be too late.
As long as GM companies are run by profiteers and psychopaths, that won't help much. There is too much invested interest in control and power.
We need a massive breakdown of these mental structures which can only happen through chaos and a great extent of painful experiences, unfortunately, but at the end of the day people will be thankful, if they choose to learn.
This is probably about to happen, if we are lucky, with the financial system collapsing, before the biological one does.
a good talk, but not enough emphasis on peak oil, and he's FAR too respectful of economists
Great talk and points at the end. Although I see that population is an enormous issue I still believe the key solution is to inspire wisdom and compassion, and appropriate actions, starting with the self. If rich countries don't radically reduce their meat and dairy intake, CO2 and other ecological footprint AS WELL as ethically planning their families, then they can't expect non-fascist population control.
Speaking as a vegan, who e.g. flew e.g. 2x in the last 15 years... still not perfect
@innerrevolution1 An excellent point, though reducing meat&dairy even to the recommended levels (which is at least as low as I've reduced it to) would help quite a bit, since (at least as Finland and USA are concerned) the consumption of those is several times higher than recommended. For instance, the Finnish recommendation is max. 0,3 kilograms/week (of meat), but an average Finn consumes 1,419 kg/week. And an average US citizen is even worse, at 2,378 kg/week.
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@Hirvassalo Sounds like you are on the right track ;-) Over time since becoming vegan (99%) I find I don't miss cheese or fish much, and meat even less. I still have a sweet-tooth sometimes but don't like the really sweet stuff anymore. The body gets used to good things when we change our gut bacteria through healthy diet. It seems like a natural progression. I am sure dairy protein can help build muscle but interestingly there are vegan body-builders, too!
Brilliant lecture from a wonderful human being. I would urge anyone to view his BBC series "Earth Story". Regarding the human population, I think the phrase "boiling the frog slowly" comes to mind.
@innerrevolution1 I've personally experienced dairy to be pretty useful in building muscle mass, but I'm also planning to restrict its consumption to when exercising. My main animal food is fish, though most of my protein now comes from veggie sources anyway.
Grains&dairy are a fairly recent adition to human diet, so there is a good deal of personal variation as to how healthy they are (yeastless whole rye bread works best for me!). Processed meat is bad for everyone, though!
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This biologist isn't being completely honest. He must know that nature's way to balance a population is food scarcity. He finally says something like that right at the very end of the question session.
Temporary strain from population comes from our technological inability to meet the scarcity caused by additional people. The answer when you have 4 hats & 5 heads is not to cut off the extra head, but to find a way through innovation to make another hat. We've been finding ways 2do that since we exceeded natural equilibrium millions of years ago. We will continue doing so - while alarmists & crackpot Malthusians like the man above, have been wrong for 200+ years, & they will continue 2b wrong.