The main reason that people get referencing wrong is that when they play it say in the car they're expecting it to sound comparable to the mix environment. But it won't. What you really should be doing is playing your reference music first, then play your mix and ask yourself "does it sound comparable to the reference(s)? If it does then that's great. If it doesn't fix the difference(s). 😎
Refrencing other songs is a much more important method to make sure your song works (if this song works in your car, reference to this song, not the car)
It’s like with tv/laptop/phone screens… there’s no way to make it look perfect everywhere, just good enough, if it looks good on Rec709. For sound there isn’t a standard for a framework of “display” or true reference. Only flat audio curve which is only half of the equation… been the location/room the other half
But let’s say you got a non ideal room but do every mix in it, over time you should know what a mix needs to sound like in that room even if it doesn’t sound right in the room but so it sounds good in a car or Hi-Fi environment. I guess the treatment only lessens this learning curve.
You can't adjust something like compression for example if you can't hear it in either your room or your car. There's an infinite amount of variables when mixing over multiple tracks, so just guessing and checking won't get you to a pro level mix.
Well, I live in an apartment and took the room out of the equation by purchasing Audeze headphones last year. It was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I had been endlessly frustrated with my untreated room using Yamaha monitors along with Beyerdynamic DT990 headphones. With the Audeze headphones everything instantly improved. From sound selection, arrangement and to mixing / mastering. I have also been using much less layers in my arrangement and also a lot less processing on each track. One of the big improvements over my other gear is with being able to hear depth in the stereo field. So now I can hear if I'm bringing a track forward or backward in the stereo field just by adjusting compression and/or saturation. The downside of headphones though seems to be that it's difficult to set levels that pass the car or small speaker check. Which is what brings me to videos like this one. I'm still thinking I'd like to improve the acoustics of my room and upgrade my monitors so that I can set more accurate levels and rely less on the car test.@@chinmeysway
The main reason that people get referencing wrong is that when they play it say in the car they're expecting it to sound comparable to the mix environment. But it won't. What you really should be doing is playing your reference music first, then play your mix and ask yourself "does it sound comparable to the reference(s)? If it does then that's great. If it doesn't fix the difference(s). 😎
This. It is the only meaningful way to reference on other system.
Refrencing other songs is a much more important method to make sure your song works (if this song works in your car, reference to this song, not the car)
It’s like with tv/laptop/phone screens… there’s no way to make it look perfect everywhere, just good enough, if it looks good on Rec709.
For sound there isn’t a standard for a framework of “display” or true reference. Only flat audio curve which is only half of the equation… been the location/room the other half
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Discribing Audio/Sound alone is challenging sometimes..learned a lot from You
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But let’s say you got a non ideal room but do every mix in it, over time you should know what a mix needs to sound like in that room even if it doesn’t sound right in the room but so it sounds good in a car or Hi-Fi environment. I guess the treatment only lessens this learning curve.
You can't adjust something like compression for example if you can't hear it in either your room or your car. There's an infinite amount of variables when mixing over multiple tracks, so just guessing and checking won't get you to a pro level mix.
How much "not right" is right then?
Well, I live in an apartment and took the room out of the equation by purchasing Audeze headphones last year. It was one of the best decisions I have ever made. I had been endlessly frustrated with my untreated room using Yamaha monitors along with Beyerdynamic DT990 headphones. With the Audeze headphones everything instantly improved. From sound selection, arrangement and to mixing / mastering. I have also been using much less layers in my arrangement and also a lot less processing on each track. One of the big improvements over my other gear is with being able to hear depth in the stereo field. So now I can hear if I'm bringing a track forward or backward in the stereo field just by adjusting compression and/or saturation. The downside of headphones though seems to be that it's difficult to set levels that pass the car or small speaker check. Which is what brings me to videos like this one. I'm still thinking I'd like to improve the acoustics of my room and upgrade my monitors so that I can set more accurate levels and rely less on the car test.@@chinmeysway
Huh?