USS San Diego (ACR-6) - A Controversial Sinking off New York
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2024
- You can count the number of American warships lost in the Great War on one hand. There was USS Memphis (formerly USS Tennessee) lost to a storm in 1916. There was also USS Jacob Jones, a destroyer lost in 1917.
And the most famous of them all, USS San Diego- the former USS California. An armored cruiser sunk off the coast of New York in 1918, most likely by a German mine. This ship's sinking was quite a controversy, at the time and even today.
Not surprising, as she was sunk so close to American shores. In a time where submarines were still coming into their own. Not to mention being the only major American warship lost to enemy action in the Great War.
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My grandfather was a blacksmith aboard this cruiser, he always said it was a sea mine that sunk it. UC-156 never made it home as it was in turn sunk by a mine as well.
You're such a liar
The list allowing water to flood thru the gun ports is an important consideration when discussing the merits of pre-dreadnoughts that rarely if ever gets mentioned.
US ACRs get lost for some of the strangest reasons. Maine mysteriously blew up, Tennessee/Memphis was sunk by a storm, and California/San Diego hit a mine.
The wreck of the U.S.S. San Diego is known for producing a very large number of souvenirs for wreck divers. U.S. Navy plates and cups being favorites for some reason that escapes me. However, far more dangerous things have been brought up from the wreck. Way back in the early 1990's I read about a diver who used lift bags to remove two 8 inch shells from the wreck, bring them to the surface and onto his boat. He took the shells home, did some cosmetic work to make them look nice and placed them next to a fire place in his living room. One shell on either side of the fire place.
After he showed off his new fireplace ornaments to some friends and neighbors, one of them became concerned and called the local fire department. The fire department called the U.S. Navy who sent some ordinance experts to check the situation out. They confirmed that the shells were intact and still had their explosive charges in them. If rust had allowed any water to seep in, sitting next to a fireplace would soon dry the charges out and they would be very much capable of blowing this man's house apart and probably take a chunk of his neighbors homes on either side of him. The Navy took possession and had the shells destroyed.
It turns out, he wasn't the only crazy person to dive the San Diego. A few divers were retrieving both 3 and 6 inch shells, bringing them aboard commercial dive boats and then they would use hammers to knock off the intact brass cartridges 'that were attached to the shells. They make very pretty souvenirs. The cartridges' still retained the propellant for the shells. The Coast Guard found out about this practice and instituted a rule to prevent this happening aboard commercial dive boats. Divers tried to get around this by bringing shells up to the boat, but not aboard the dive boat and knock the brass cartridges' off while holding onto a swim ladder on the boats stern. The Coast Guard put a stop to that practice as well.
I've never heard of this ship before, thank you for sharing.
Another ship that changed it's name was the USS Tennessee which became the USS Memphis and was wrecked by a rogue wave off Santos Domingo in the Dominican Republic. Though some may think changing a ship's name brought bad luck, dozens of ships have had their name changed with no incidents. The problem with these ships was that their guns ports were not really water tight and they had no anti-flooding protection. Plus they had a longitudinal bulkhead dividing the engine rooms, which meant the flooding of an engine room could cause a severe list. The Navy would later get rid of these bulkheads in their older ships and omit them in new ships.
Interesting mention of the Memphis. Edward L. Beach, Sr, was her CO when the ship was lost. Anyone not familiar with the naval career of his son "Ned" Beach should read the Wikipedia article about him
@@johnwagner4776 I agree as this tragic incident was created by what we now know as wind driven rogue waves. Captain Beach and the rest of the crew were not believed when they testified how big the waves were. He was unfairly court marshaled and his officers were never promoted. Now you would think the US Navy had learned something but no, Captain McVay of the Indianapolis was wrongly court marshaled for not zig-zagging. Then again when an explosion in Iowa's 2nd turret happened the Navy refused to consider that the gun powder patches were at fault rather then a gay sailor. It seems some people never learn!
Now you have to do a video on the Milwaukee, to round out the trio of ill-fated U.S. armored cruisers.
USS Milwaukee was a protected cruiser no?
Finally got a vid on a ship that I have read about!!! Great job!!
Great video man
Its a shame it is inverted on the bottom. Would be very cool dive if upright.
There's a large opening in the hull so you can enter her. Up until about 20 years ago you could still bring up stripper clips of 39/06 ammo off her or other items. That's all a nice no now
I have dove this ship many times and fished it more. I'm not sure the sinking was controversial as you say. It struck a mine. Nothing more. It was known then just as it's known now. German subs layed hundreds of mines in NY harbor and the area known as the Mud Hole. They also torpedoed many ships in that area. Edward Cole, Jacob Haskell to name a couple.
I'm planning to do that this year any cool things I should look for?
@haydenlysinger1705 is been about 15 years since the last time I dove that wreck. There is usually decent lobster with the way it sits on the bottom. Watch for all the fishing line. It's literally everywhere and easy to get wrapped up in
この歴史を共有してくれてありがとう。たとえ時間が経てば失われてしまうとしても、歴史の中には多くの知識が眠っている。
I have a navy good conduct medal names to a sailor on the San Diego. Thanks for posting!
this ship appears a sister to the Tennessee/Memphis about which is a fine book written by son of the Captain.
It's truly sad to see that beautiful ship upside down at the bottom of the sea.
Great video thanks 👍
I think I remember reading about this wreck in book called shadow divers. If viewer is unfamiliar with it, definitely recommended read. It’s about a previous unknown German submarine that sunk off New Jersey.
Are you going to cover her wreck? Great video, brw, as per usual! REALLY enjoy your content.
I fished over the wreck a few times, Oregon too. Close to shore and not deep at all. Artifacts from those wrecks decorate homes all over Long Island.
Ca. 1900 naval architecture meets ca. 1917 naval mine technology. The Pennsylvania and subsequent Tennessee class armored cruisers were, for their type and time, very decent ships. They suffered, so to speak, from rapidly advancing naval technology and were obsolescent by WW1 (in which armored cruisers fared poorly against more modern ships and boats).
The ship been dived alot. Unfortunately, seek searches have torn her up.
Not really. Most just looked for and grabbed clips of 39/06. She IS collapsing though
i realise you're constrained by time in these vids, that said i would have been interested to hear a little more about the Medals if the information was available
Watashi-Wa, Numnah Wan!
Wait... Wrong Sandy :/
Fuck I was gonna say that
Dive on it
Skynea History; What about the US Navy convoys of WWI ??????
i livnear by. was hoping to dive on her but i never did. now im to broken. i had a neighbor who was going to take me. he took some 14 in shells home to the apartment. put picts online... the coast guard got wind.... whata big stink.
Rename a ship see what happens