Thanks so much Graeme! It was so kind of you to lend us a saw. We've bedded it in for you know so its ready to go 💪🏼💪🏼🪵🪵 All joking aside if anyone is after an ex demo saw then be sure to let Graeme know, im sure he will do a top deal on it 😉 Website link - www.igmc.co.uk/
I'd love to own Stihls, but I just can't justifying the price as a hobbyist. My Holzfforma G444 and G660 does everything I need them to do. They're quite a bit heavier than the equivalent new generation of Stihls, but only a 1/4 the price.
The 400 is a gutsy saw but the 500i only has a 20 inch bar on it, the other 2 especially the 362 would suffer going over 25 inch, great comparison but the 500i is the ultimate beast with the longer bars
I run a second hand 391 as my general saw with a 20" bar and a new 500i with a 25" bar for bigger work. I don't use saws daily and the 500i was an indulgence. If I break the 391, might consider a 400.1 with a 20" bar. It's not about speed, it's about having an adequate enough amount of power to drive whatever bar length you need. A few seconds longer makes no difference to the occasional user.
Hi thanks for watching and we really appreciate your comment and letting us know what saws you run. The 500i is certainly an animal but sometimes you just need something a little bit lighter for those day to day tasks. cheers
The thing rhat i just keep thinking about is .7hp more and 1kg less!! I agree, i think we'll see pros adopt this pretty quickly as the go to ground saw, you could even climb with it for larger stems. Its very impressive in that video, i love my 500i but i also love my tweaked 262xp's which it seems very close to. Would definitely consider one in the future, a hot 62-67cc saw is rhe goldilocks zone i think for general work with up to 24/25inch bars. Nice work guys! A lot of work to put together, if you have a 25inch bar then id love to see 400.1 vs 500 or 462 same bar and chain in some 20 inch plus wood. But i sure you have enough video ideas! How much longer have you got the 400.1? 👀
Thanks James. Perhaps we could try using larger bars and chains and doing some larger cuts this would be interesting to watch. Will see what we can do. 400.1 isnt staying for long, and will be gutted when it goes back!
It would be a hard one to test because there are so many factors. I would say they wont be too disimilar.. We can see if STIHL have any figures and come back to you if we find out 👍🏼👍🏼
I only have a need for the 500i but the 400.1 is a mighty saw. I would probably go for the 400.1 if it was to be a first saw as a professional as it would be easier to use daily. However in my position I want/need 😂 the 500. Keep them coming
@MachineryNation because i own an 462 and a 261. In the past I was missing something between them. As you know the step is really big between these both saws.. maybe the 400.1 would be interesting
Great video, Radmore and Tucker have the 400.1 on their website but do not know when they will get them. I am keen to try one but at the moment it is only £200 less than a 500i
I did see someone had posted this on a UK facebook chainsaw group. Im not sure where they have got their pricing from as it hasnt been finalised as of yet. And other larger UK dealers arent advertising either. I think potentially they are getting in early and hoping to generate some interest and pre orders before it is launched. If we find out anymore we will let you know 👍🏼👍🏼
What will be interesting is the price point between the MS 462c and the MS 400.1……….then compare the price point to performance between the 400.1 the 462c and the 500i = what to buy IMHO 👍👏🇺🇸 Rick
They are still finalising this all in the UK and europe i believe so watch this space 🙂🙂 but yes it will be interesting to see how the price compares to the other current models as this could play a big part in deciding which one you go for
For sure, I have the 500i and the 462c and the 362c along with the 261c now. Want to add the 400.1 to the group, awaiting its USA arrival…….cant seem to be able to line up one yet. Hopefully soon. It appears they are rolling it out very much like they did the 500i.
Thanks ! That is what I had been told, well mostly, I expect we won’t see it till around the end of Summer to early Fall here…….oh well……it appears to be worth waiting for. Thanks for your response and great videos 👍👏
yes I’ve heard thst, but thx. Sometimes even the new chain can be a bit dull. I mean I expected that difference between the 362 and 400.1 and sometimes Ee’ve seen even the old 400c be close to the 500i, it’s just I’ve only seen the 500i be more aggressive then this one. I’ve got a 362 love her she is stable, undestroyable which is to prefere. I’ve got the 261c, mostly for the small jobs or a reserv saw, she is light but she is weaker and I prefere the torque. We also have a 572 Husqvarna which I think is the best Husqvarna today. But actually, I can imagine to go for the 400.1 if they show a bit of endurance. I live in Sweden so we’ve always been into Husqvarnas but the 550 and 560 turned out not to be as reliable so we went over to Stihl mostly. Reliability is very important to us because of the lack of infrastructure. So in my case I’ll wait a bit to see the reactions. Impressive though! Take care guys!
Definitely watching with keen interest for the 400.1 I know I asked on LCL but any plans to test with different size bars? Would love to see how it handles a 28” bar. Not shared this with the LCL folk yet, but have just gotten in to wood splitting offering a following up service to a tree surgeon m8 - on top of my normal garden work. I have an echo I think 501 with an 20” bar, and it’s ok, it does the job, but occasionally using tree surgeons Stihl saws, he has a few inc the 400 and 500i with a massive bar, it’s clear how much better they are. So sometime this year, wouldn’t mind upgrading. I think the 400 could be the perfect saw, both for when I’m on the wood splitting jobs, and when working with m8. Comfortable using his saws, but equally don’t like using other’s equipment. Seeing how big of a bar the 400.1 can handle, will seal the deal. Pwetty please 🙏
@@christopherlehman4045 well that’s the thing, m8 with 500i has a 36 or 40” bar and it copes just fine, yet it’s rated for 28 or 30” iirc. Which makes me think that Stihl themselves are being conservative on what they recommend.
Interesting. The 400.1 seems a little dry, lean maybe? Run the 500i here, no issues, real workhorse. The 311 is the daily doer. 15 years on, can’t kill it. All my engines treated with X-cell products, Australia.
Thanks Glenn. The saws notes do differ abit in sounds qaulity when they come through the mics. It certainy sounded like it was running spot on. It must have had a dozen tanks for fuel through it now so should be bedded in 💪🏼
Your most welcome. Thats great to hear. Out of interest where did you pre order from as ive only seen one UK site showing them. Not sure on pricing yet either?
I have to agree with many here that the 362 was a brand new saw first time running and the other two have been used already. Plus where is the 462? One would think if you want a fair shoot out then have all 4 saws with all new chains and same running time! I run the 362 & my 400 with 24” bars my 461 with a 28” bar and my newly acquired 660 with a 32”-36” bar! Let’s just see how the 462 stacks up against the others? I must state that I don’t run stock saws! 98% of my saws are ported with other mods air filter and muffler. I don’t run a 500 don’t need it!
I’m a diehard 70’s 80’s and 90’s Stihl saws because of the styling. The saws for the last decade have kinda just been meh but the new 400.1 500i and 881 do look mean! Just the opposite can be said about Husqvarna the 200 and 300 series saws are some of the best looking and performing saws of all time! They new 500 series saws may walk the dog but they just don’t got the look.
Hello guys. How did the chain especially on the 500i looked like? Seemed not that sharp to be honest. 500i should go for it crazy… Ms362 needs a bit a use of spikes, but she is for sure slower, built to las little saw…
The quick answer to your question is, yes, would consider buying a 400.1. Unfortunately, nobody can tell me when it will become available for sale. All I hear is 2025….. is that December 2025? I’m also looking at a Husqvarna 562 MkII. Stihl should let their clients know when to expect the new saw!!!
nice komparesion What would you suggest for a Stihl saw when I cut down about 700-1000 Christmas trees in November every year, which weigh at least and have a maximum of an 18" bar, I'm an early retiree, so it shouldn't cost that much, maybe a used one?
The MS261C, 50CC saw professional like these saws here. For cedar/pine it’s all you need and is lightweight. I have a 400C and 462C. They get heavy for felling trees.
I would always recommend going into your local dealer and getting a feel for the range of saws. See what combo you can get and which one is your preference. Someones go to saw might not always be yours. 👍🏼👍🏼
Amazing. Glad we could help make the video happen!!
Anyone looking for a used MS 362??!!😂👍🏼
That little saw did very well, especially as it was new!
Thanks so much Graeme! It was so kind of you to lend us a saw. We've bedded it in for you know so its ready to go 💪🏼💪🏼🪵🪵
All joking aside if anyone is after an ex demo saw then be sure to let Graeme know, im sure he will do a top deal on it 😉
Website link - www.igmc.co.uk/
@@walkerscountrylife it certainly did.
@ My father-in-law's 362 cuts much better than that it needs breaking in. Or I have suggested sending it to Artur Rodak!
I was impressed by the ms362 in big timber, 24 sec vs 22 sec for the new saw. Think I will hold onto my ms362.
My thoughts as well as to it's performance. I don't have an MS362, but I do have the old MS361 and I love it!
I even run a 36” bar in soft wood on my 362. It runs better now after two years of use, revs out more than that new saw he is using.
@@ryanbruner8928 MS361 is a big step up from a 362. Best throttle response of all the stills. Keep it as long as you can.
@@taylorc2542 it's a forever saw, along with my MS460.
🙂
After two years of use my 362 runs better than when new. It revs out better than your saw.
I'd love to own Stihls, but I just can't justifying the price as a hobbyist. My Holzfforma G444 and G660 does everything I need them to do. They're quite a bit heavier than the equivalent new generation of Stihls, but only a 1/4 the price.
The 400 is a gutsy saw but the 500i only has a 20 inch bar on it, the other 2 especially the 362 would suffer going over 25 inch, great comparison but the 500i is the ultimate beast with the longer bars
I run a second hand 391 as my general saw with a 20" bar and a new 500i with a 25" bar for bigger work. I don't use saws daily and the 500i was an indulgence. If I break the 391, might consider a 400.1 with a 20" bar. It's not about speed, it's about having an adequate enough amount of power to drive whatever bar length you need. A few seconds longer makes no difference to the occasional user.
Hi thanks for watching and we really appreciate your comment and letting us know what saws you run. The 500i is certainly an animal but sometimes you just need something a little bit lighter for those day to day tasks. cheers
Would love a 500i but would be more than happy with either of the other 2
Thanks Lee. The 500i is an animal and the new saw wasnt far behind on performance
@@LeeTillbury the most noteworthy thing about the 500i is how perfectly it runs and idles.
To be fair to the 362 it wasn't run in like the other two as you said it was brand new.
Nice One James Josh & Alex I now want a MS 400.1 😀 I don't need one Thanks again
😅😅 This is the problem. The MS400.1 has to go back to STIHL soon and we will be gutted 😢
No point in comparing them if they don't all have fresh out of the box chains. Remove all the variables if you're gonna race them.
You would only do that if you were trying to skew the results
Hi guys , great video, i would choose the lightest saw over a little bit more power
Thanks for watching and letting us know your thoughts 🙂🙂
I will be keen on getting 1 here in NZ when they arrive.
You wouldnt be dissapointed 👍🏼👍🏼
The thing rhat i just keep thinking about is .7hp more and 1kg less!! I agree, i think we'll see pros adopt this pretty quickly as the go to ground saw, you could even climb with it for larger stems.
Its very impressive in that video, i love my 500i but i also love my tweaked 262xp's which it seems very close to. Would definitely consider one in the future, a hot 62-67cc saw is rhe goldilocks zone i think for general work with up to 24/25inch bars.
Nice work guys! A lot of work to put together, if you have a 25inch bar then id love to see 400.1 vs 500 or 462 same bar and chain in some 20 inch plus wood. But i sure you have enough video ideas!
How much longer have you got the 400.1? 👀
Thanks James. Perhaps we could try using larger bars and chains and doing some larger cuts this would be interesting to watch. Will see what we can do.
400.1 isnt staying for long, and will be gutted when it goes back!
a comparisaon against 562xp and 462CM would be great too
Great idea we will certainly see what we can do.
Maybe the 572xp vs MS462. Both are low 70cc saws.
Did you get an idea of fuel consumption of the 400.1 compared to the 500i?
Fuel consumption is never a factor in 2-strokes dude. No one cares
Plenty of people care about fuel consumption in 2-strokes dude. Good question
It would be a hard one to test because there are so many factors. I would say they wont be too disimilar.. We can see if STIHL have any figures and come back to you if we find out 👍🏼👍🏼
I only have a need for the 500i but the 400.1 is a mighty saw. I would probably go for the 400.1 if it was to be a first saw as a professional as it would be easier to use daily. However in my position I want/need 😂 the 500. Keep them coming
Haha theres always room for 2 saws 😉
That's the problem my shopping list would be about 4 🤣more I would definitely need a bigger truck then 🤔🤣
@@neilrice8714 😂😂
Can you please compare the 462 with the 400.1?
We will see if we can get hold of and MS462 as this would make a good match up 👍🏼👍🏼
@MachineryNation because i own an 462 and a 261. In the past I was missing something between them. As you know the step is really big between these both saws.. maybe the 400.1 would be interesting
@@LL100-rs1ji theres always room for another saw 😉
Great video, Radmore and Tucker have the 400.1 on their website but do not know when they will get them. I am keen to try one but at the moment it is only £200 less than a 500i
I did see someone had posted this on a UK facebook chainsaw group. Im not sure where they have got their pricing from as it hasnt been finalised as of yet. And other larger UK dealers arent advertising either. I think potentially they are getting in early and hoping to generate some interest and pre orders before it is launched. If we find out anymore we will let you know 👍🏼👍🏼
@@MachineryNationThanks. I really want to try one. I always try and use a local or trusted dealer. it is a shame you are not a dealer anymore.
Hi James + Josh, Great review ob the Stihl petrol chain saw range, all look good chainsaws, catch you soon take care
Thanks Shaun. Cheers mate
What will be interesting is the price point between the MS 462c and the MS 400.1……….then compare the price point to performance between the 400.1 the 462c and the 500i = what to buy IMHO 👍👏🇺🇸 Rick
They are still finalising this all in the UK and europe i believe so watch this space 🙂🙂 but yes it will be interesting to see how the price compares to the other current models as this could play a big part in deciding which one you go for
For sure, I have the 500i and the 462c and the 362c along with the 261c now. Want to add the 400.1 to the group, awaiting its USA arrival…….cant seem to be able to line up one yet. Hopefully soon. It appears they are rolling it out very much like they did the 500i.
@@Living-The-Dream Yes its due to launch in the UK and Europe in May we believe so hopefully you guys wont be to far behind 💪🏼
Thanks ! That is what I had been told, well mostly, I expect we won’t see it till around the end of Summer to early Fall here…….oh well……it appears to be worth waiting for. Thanks for your response and great videos 👍👏
How about the 462 🤷🏼♂️
We are going to see if we can get hold of one for sure 👌🏼
yes I’ve heard thst, but thx. Sometimes even the new chain can be a bit dull. I mean I expected that difference between the 362 and 400.1 and sometimes Ee’ve seen even the old 400c be close to the 500i, it’s just I’ve only seen the 500i be more aggressive then this one.
I’ve got a 362 love her she is stable, undestroyable which is to prefere. I’ve got the 261c, mostly for the small jobs or a reserv saw, she is light but she is weaker and I prefere the torque. We also have a 572 Husqvarna which I think is the best Husqvarna today. But actually, I can imagine to go for the 400.1 if they show a bit of endurance. I live in Sweden so we’ve always been into Husqvarnas but the 550 and 560 turned out not to be as reliable so we went over to Stihl mostly. Reliability is very important to us because of the lack of infrastructure. So in my case I’ll wait a bit to see the reactions. Impressive though! Take care guys!
Definitely watching with keen interest for the 400.1
I know I asked on LCL but any plans to test with different size bars?
Would love to see how it handles a 28” bar.
Not shared this with the LCL folk yet, but have just gotten in to wood splitting offering a following up service to a tree surgeon m8 - on top of my normal garden work.
I have an echo I think 501 with an 20” bar, and it’s ok, it does the job, but occasionally using tree surgeons Stihl saws, he has a few inc the 400 and 500i with a massive bar, it’s clear how much better they are. So sometime this year, wouldn’t mind upgrading. I think the 400 could be the perfect saw, both for when I’m on the wood splitting jobs, and when working with m8. Comfortable using his saws, but equally don’t like using other’s equipment.
Seeing how big of a bar the 400.1 can handle, will seal the deal.
Pwetty please 🙏
Go the 500.
It ends conversations.
I’m sure it will be rated for up to 25”
Like the 362 is
@@glennllewellyn7369 lol, true, but it’s over 2000€, I can’t justify that. Even the 400 is pushing it.
@@christopherlehman4045 well that’s the thing, m8 with 500i has a 36 or 40” bar and it copes just fine, yet it’s rated for 28 or 30” iirc. Which makes me think that Stihl themselves are being conservative on what they recommend.
I have a 500 and they don’t run 40”bars well. First off too floppy second not enough oil leave the 40” bars to the 592 and 661
Yes 400.1 I will look to buy I be happy to use all day if light
Great to hear James. If you do get one let us know how you get on! Cheers
Interesting.
The 400.1 seems a little dry, lean maybe?
Run the 500i here, no issues, real workhorse.
The 311 is the daily doer. 15 years on, can’t kill it. All my engines treated with X-cell products, Australia.
Thanks Glenn. The saws notes do differ abit in sounds qaulity when they come through the mics. It certainy sounded like it was running spot on. It must have had a dozen tanks for fuel through it now so should be bedded in 💪🏼
Great video I have pre ordered one for do you know ruffley when they will will be come out
Your most welcome. Thats great to hear. Out of interest where did you pre order from as ive only seen one UK site showing them. Not sure on pricing yet either?
@ I’m from down south they only gave me a ruff price 1100 to 1250 prices should be out by the end of the week they said .
@ Ideal! Let us know how you get on with it.
Been told May release for the product in the UK 👍🏼👍🏼
Yeah not bad price really same price as the out going ms400. Yeah I will let you know as soon as I get my hands on one and how it compares to my 500i
I have to agree with many here that the 362 was a brand new saw first time running and the other two have been used already. Plus where is the 462? One would think if you want a fair shoot out then have all 4 saws with all new chains and same running time! I run the 362 & my 400 with 24” bars my 461 with a 28” bar and my newly acquired 660 with a 32”-36” bar! Let’s just see how the 462 stacks up against the others? I must state that I don’t run stock saws! 98% of my saws are ported with other mods air filter and muffler. I don’t run a 500 don’t need it!
The only thing I hate is a lot of (useless) cutting above the shoulders level. It is always risky.
I’m a diehard 70’s 80’s and 90’s Stihl saws because of the styling. The saws for the last decade have kinda just been meh but the new 400.1 500i and 881 do look mean!
Just the opposite can be said about Husqvarna the 200 and 300 series saws are some of the best looking and performing saws of all time! They new 500 series saws may walk the dog but they just don’t got the look.
You cant beat old school saws! We have an 08s here still running. What models do you have?
Chilly in the shed, is it? :D Really strange seeing Your breath while indoors.
@@wellend89 was bloody cold that morning 🤣
Nagyon jo gépek😉
All great saws. Thanks for watching our video! 🙂
Hello guys. How did the chain especially on the 500i looked like? Seemed not that sharp to be honest. 500i should go for it crazy…
Ms362 needs a bit a use of spikes, but she is for sure slower, built to las little saw…
Hi Peter the 500i had a brand new chain ans guide bar fitted. All running STIHL 3/8 rapid super
I just don't think it was big enough wood to really see the difference. I think the 500i would run away with the competition with a buried 28" bar.
Amazing video. Could you do videos on Tractors? Or mini loaders like avant?
@Sigurd651 Mini tractors coming very soon 🙌🏻
@@MachineryNation NICE, I hope some '' Compact tractors '' too like the ones with a cabin
Please do a Stihl MS 400 vs Echo 620P. I believe that the Stihl is a better saw but the Echo is a better value and the performance isn't that far off.
Bring out the husqvarna 👍
Interesting you saw that we would love to do a comparison at somepoint
I would rather stick to my Husqvarna 372xp old faithful 😊
Come to the dark side mate.
Haha we also love the 372XP but that new STIHL saw is an absolute beast! We will be sad when it has to go back to STIHL!
@@MachineryNation I fancy trying the 500i 😁
MS 400.1👌
Its a class saw!
The quick answer to your question is, yes, would consider buying a 400.1. Unfortunately, nobody can tell me when it will become available for sale. All I hear is 2025….. is that December 2025? I’m also looking at a Husqvarna 562 MkII. Stihl should let their clients know when to expect the new saw!!!
UK is estimated to be May 👍🏼
nice komparesion
What would you suggest for a Stihl saw when I cut down about 700-1000 Christmas trees in November every year, which weigh at least and have a maximum of an 18" bar, I'm an early retiree, so it shouldn't cost that much, maybe a used one?
The MS261C, 50CC saw professional like these saws here. For cedar/pine it’s all you need and is lightweight. I have a 400C and 462C. They get heavy for felling trees.
@@shadowdestined2992 tx I have been looking at it
I would always recommend going into your local dealer and getting a feel for the range of saws. See what combo you can get and which one is your preference. Someones go to saw might not always be yours. 👍🏼👍🏼
Здравствуйте, сколько у вас стоит бензопилы штиль 500, 400.заранее спасибо вам.
Longevity? Tried and tested in an arduous professional environment? The jury is still out on this one for me.
@@timhannan4551 I guess that’s the same for any new product throughout history?
Ms 400.1 vs Husqvarna 562 mark2?
When you get done with that 400.1 send it to me, LOL
😢😢 Weve got to send it back lol
Can't tell much from cutting that punky, rotten wood but the 500i was definitely a lot smoother than the other saws featured.
The tests were in prity hard oak 💪🏼💪🏼
Lol. MS400c for the win. 🎉
I have a MS 461 and several smaller Husky’s. Not buying a saw any time soon
500i
I have seen a lot of 462s lately my next saw is the MS 881
I just got a 661 Magnum
Yet The 400.1 🦠
Nice line up! You got some great saws 😎