Game Theory: Shadow Is ACTUALLY A Genie?! (Sonic The Hedgehog)

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    Sonic The Hedgehog is one of the most iconic franchises in ALL of gaming! Everyone knows Sonic for his love of Chilli Dogs, collecting those rings, and of course his killer speed... but there's something I bet you would have never guessed about our anthropomorphic hedgehog friends. Your favorite anti-hero Shadow The Hedgehog is a GENIE... yeah like a REAL genie. Don't believe me? Just watch!
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  • @Kulkogo
    @Kulkogo หลายเดือนก่อน +1619

    “You can make three wishes”
    *I want to bring Maria back*
    “You can make three wishes except for that”

    • @SgtSupaman
      @SgtSupaman หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      "There are a few, uh, provisos. A couple of quid pro quos."

    • @Bandicooch
      @Bandicooch หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      "That is beyond my power " -Shenron

    • @amamplay
      @amamplay หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Raaaarh!!!!

    • @pkmntrainermark8881
      @pkmntrainermark8881 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      "It's not a pretty picture. I don't like doing it!"

    • @warrencosgrove-r1k
      @warrencosgrove-r1k หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      But that would kinda remove you from the story altogether...
      -genie

  • @neonthehedgehog12
    @neonthehedgehog12 หลายเดือนก่อน +4914

    Your finally having your "Sans is Ness" moment.

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

      I still believe that to a degree. So you can't say that is 100 percent crazy

    • @Niaz-m9t
      @Niaz-m9t หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      this needs to be pinned

    • @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS
      @How_To_Drive_a_TARDIS หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      Honestly I hope they pin this one

    • @d4560yt
      @d4560yt หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Sans is Shadow 😱

    • @firepuppies4086
      @firepuppies4086 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Being fair,, in this case? They actually HAVE referenced the Arabian Nights in an entire game with Secret Rings.

  • @MoogiBoi
    @MoogiBoi หลายเดือนก่อน +76

    Dude Game Theory with Tom has actually been so nice and refreshing. I've still been looking forward to every upload. Good videos man keep it up

    • @Shotgunspixie
      @Shotgunspixie 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Matt would've gone on a five minute tangent about the Archie comics.

  • @masterskygamer306
    @masterskygamer306 หลายเดือนก่อน +739

    the fact that Sonic and the Secret Rings was not mentioned once, only off hand referenced with the genie in the ring comment, in a theory about genies is a crime

    • @drmeow6203
      @drmeow6203 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I think this game is not canon? so there's really no point to mention it for the canon timeline theory

    • @OtZillaFM
      @OtZillaFM หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      @@drmeow6203 Sonic mentions "rescuing genies in magic books" after rescuing Tails in Sonic Generations.
      So yeah, It's Canon

    • @ItsCenrryTH
      @ItsCenrryTH หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@drmeow6203
      Secret Rings is canon, though.
      Though, I don't believe there was a Shadow variant in that story. Only in Black Knight

    • @RemedieX
      @RemedieX หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@drmeow6203 Pretty sure Sega themselves said all games are canon in a tweet somewhere 😂

    • @Hyp3rSon1X
      @Hyp3rSon1X หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@drmeow6203 Even Sonic 06 is canon. But the game retcons/cancels itself in the end and makes it so everything that happened in the game, didn't actually happen in the canon timeline.
      I honestly don't know of any Sonic game that is considered non canon. The only non canon thing in the Sonic universe is maybe the Archie comics.

  • @Slimeeify
    @Slimeeify หลายเดือนก่อน +1205

    15:52 The reason he keeps them on is actually simpler than that, his unrestrained power takes a toll on his physical body, so the rings are more so here to stabilise shadow.

    • @MinerMario
      @MinerMario หลายเดือนก่อน +122

      Plus, he can take them off at will if needed.

    • @deadersurvival4716
      @deadersurvival4716 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Source?

    • @pandora5051
      @pandora5051 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      ​@@deadersurvival4716 Literally Sonic 06

    • @christopherrisher1882
      @christopherrisher1882 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      It while he's fight mephlise

    • @deadersurvival4716
      @deadersurvival4716 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@pandora5051 Pardon me, I don't remember an almost two decade old game that I never played or had access to verbatim. Do you mind being a _bit_ more specific?

  • @Superdan4290
    @Superdan4290 หลายเดือนก่อน +259

    A Sonic theory about a genie, and there’s absolutely NO mention of Sonic and the Secret Rings? I wonder if there wasn’t enough lore connections, or if he just forgot it existed 😂 I wouldn’t blame him

    • @Nox.x_ART
      @Nox.x_ART หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Why is part of your comment blue

    • @Superdan4290
      @Superdan4290 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Nox.x_ART I don’t see any blue

    • @vbarreiro
      @vbarreiro หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@Nox.x_ARTNew youtube update

    • @franciscochambolle5974
      @franciscochambolle5974 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i'm almost sure this game isn't canon (even thaught the sonic twitter said everything is canon, it could still be canon but on a different timeline, like the movie timeline)

    • @jeeby7117
      @jeeby7117 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i was about to say it because of "genie of the ring, not the lamp"

  • @Albionic_
    @Albionic_ หลายเดือนก่อน +3879

    Can we all just take a moment to appreciate how Tom's theories have somehow become even MORE deranged than Matpat's were?

    • @Kels_OJ
      @Kels_OJ หลายเดือนก่อน +132

      At least Matt had some real theories, this is just some far oversimplification of a good story.

    • @masonng4425
      @masonng4425 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      Sans is Ness part 2

    • @TheJordanJonas
      @TheJordanJonas หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      Yeah I don’t know this theory really doesn’t stick

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊❤❤❤

    • @zadock6370
      @zadock6370 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      he will never top the absurdity of wall-e being satan

  • @Flipdew
    @Flipdew หลายเดือนก่อน +1869

    This is easily the most nonsensical title I've ever seen from Theory.
    Idk how they'll back this up but I'm weirdly excited.

    • @CreeperTheNotable
      @CreeperTheNotable หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I agree lol

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.❤❤❤

    • @CreeperTheNotable
      @CreeperTheNotable หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Matpat also used to make unhinged titles

    • @joelsasmad
      @joelsasmad หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@CreeperTheNotableIt is good to see them back

    • @DaRealICantThinkOfAUsername
      @DaRealICantThinkOfAUsername หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Sans is Ness: am I a joke to you?
      Deadpool is *insert name here* : am I a joke to you?

  • @oumarbrouwer2763
    @oumarbrouwer2763 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    This is the type of game theory I love something outrageous that can be justified, even if the beginning was a bit stretched

  • @comicfan1324
    @comicfan1324 หลายเดือนก่อน +615

    I can definitely see the argument that they were thematic parallels between Shadow’s story and genies lore, but I don’t think that makes him an actual genie.
    The series has aliens that are mistaken for genies, like you mentioned, but then there are also actual genies in Sonic & The Secret Rings. It’s been over a decade and a half since genies were introduced into the series so I feel like if they wanted to address any literal connections between shadow and genies it would’ve been brought up at this point.
    However, if we’re looking up as purely from a thematic level rather than a literal one, I can get behind the theory that his story parallels of genie mythology

    • @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712
      @BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      Agree. The theory seems to make sense with the resemblances, yet it still don’t make Shadow a literal genie, as it’s never canonically implied to be.

    • @LycanDreams9159
      @LycanDreams9159 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      I’m pretty sure sonic and the secret rings is a story book that sonic falls into magically just like sonic and the black knight. I’m not sure if the genies in that game exist in the real world where sonic and shadow lives. That still leaves the possibility that the aliens that were confused to be genies could still be related to if not literally the black arms

    • @jadeninjaproductions7007
      @jadeninjaproductions7007 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree.

    • @RakoonCD
      @RakoonCD หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Especially since Sonic is meant to be a fairytale creature/protagonist.
      Like Pinocchio, Mario, Peter Pan.

    • @drybonesmunchakoopas5143
      @drybonesmunchakoopas5143 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@LycanDreams9159in generations sonic says he's fought genies so it's real. Plus it's the genie magic that brought him into it in the first place, can't exactly enter a book without magic

  • @sharonv3597
    @sharonv3597 หลายเดือนก่อน +205

    Was kinda hoping for a sonic and the secret rings mention, because that game is ABOUT GENIES

    • @NintendoSegaGuys
      @NintendoSegaGuys หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Same.

    • @MyronZhang
      @MyronZhang หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yeah, I'm surprised that wasn't referenced even once. Although Shadow has nothing to do with it outside of the multiplayer, Sonic calls back to it in Generations. So it's canon that Sonic went inside the Arabian Nights, and that Shahra and Erazor Djinn (genies) exist.

    • @yamiru3417
      @yamiru3417 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@MyronZhang also because of this shadow story being related to that of the book wouldn't be too far out. but shadow isn't actually a genie

  • @voia_online
    @voia_online หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    "rule34 treasure stealing ally" is WILD

  • @wockytalkie8352
    @wockytalkie8352 หลายเดือนก่อน +971

    So wait, you make a theory about genies, and NOT mention sonic and the secret rings?

    • @Tyler-mk2lt
      @Tyler-mk2lt หลายเดือนก่อน +94

      its probably because in the sonic cannon secret rings took place when sonic was transported into the world of a storybook
      hence the name 'the storybook series'

    • @Mega-Bits
      @Mega-Bits หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      He sure did.

    • @vinkennest3274
      @vinkennest3274 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Unless you learn that sonic mentions erazor jinn in generations

    • @GrimmysReviews
      @GrimmysReviews หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      What's worse is he mentions a genie of the lamp and genie of the ring, who both have incarnations in Secret Rings, but fails to mention the actual "no scientific explanation" genies that Sonic has met in Secret Rings, and mentioned in Generations' 2nd or 3rd cutscenes

    • @rinny5500
      @rinny5500 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Exactly this

  • @Tby399
    @Tby399 หลายเดือนก่อน +433

    1:05 'For his neutral special, he wields a gun'

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I didn't know that Shadow was American

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@alphaa2010 shut up

    • @ssokkjh
      @ssokkjh หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@TheMastermind7259 Nah he IS america

    • @TheMastermind7259
      @TheMastermind7259 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ssokkjh if the developers of Sonic knew what they're doing...

  • @ShockwaveLogicalEditz
    @ShockwaveLogicalEditz หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    The Game Theorists, I have a theory for you: How the HECK were the structures in Angry Birds built if NONE of the characters have arms?

    • @ThunderSlasher_Official
      @ThunderSlasher_Official หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Their arms are invisible I guess

    • @Katz12VODs
      @Katz12VODs 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yes up vote this they need to do this!

  • @gradientelz1899
    @gradientelz1899 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    7:43 "I'VE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. SHADOW THE HEADGEHOG IS A-"

    • @priyanshugoel3030
      @priyanshugoel3030 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My egg shaped d...

    • @GlytchGames
      @GlytchGames หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      ...genie

    • @AtomicDenson
      @AtomicDenson หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      *A alien*

    • @Fazkrueger
      @Fazkrueger หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      An alien genie hybrid.

    • @AnnStyle
      @AnnStyle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Alien genie hedgehog hybrid ​@@Fazkrueger

  • @XDLottaMoths
    @XDLottaMoths หลายเดือนก่อน +664

    You missed the point of the inhibitor rings. The rings were made not to weaken shadow but to keep his power at the limit his body can handle. When the inhibitor rings are off, Shadow’s overwhelming power is too much for his body and so Gerald created the inhibitor rings to ensure that shadow wouldn’t accidentally explode. Also, fun fact, despite being compared to Vegeta every 3 minutes, it was recently revealed that the biggest inspiration for Shadow’s character was the anti-hero Spawn

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      That still technically weakening him

    • @XDLottaMoths
      @XDLottaMoths หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      @@stargazer-elite my point was that they weren't built to restrain him. They were built to protect him from his power

    • @stargazer-elite
      @stargazer-elite หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@XDLottaMoths fair enough

    • @BlurBlizzard
      @BlurBlizzard หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      His concept art cited vegeta as inspiration. They just dont share personalities, but he is also inspired by Vegeta

    • @SupremeSR
      @SupremeSR หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wait I didn’t recall him potentially exploding… I remember the fan made Shadow movie which was super accurate with their facts saying his body constantly went from “regular hedgehog to super” and that put a strain on his body, and that’s why they couldn’t read his dna. So Shadow has the potential to go super without his inhibitor rings. But exploding? Oh heck naw not my boi ☹️🖤

  • @Nic_64
    @Nic_64 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I'm shocked he didn't mention the devs literally made a Sonic game based on Arabian Nights (Sonic and the Secret Rings)

  • @haydenbutler37
    @haydenbutler37 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    Tom, without the rings, Shadow can actually die from the Chaos Energy. Without them, he's much more vulnerable to damage.

    • @noblesseoblige319
      @noblesseoblige319 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wait when was that revealed?

    • @maddoxreddish4352
      @maddoxreddish4352 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@noblesseoblige319 well he wont really die from what i know, but he overexerts himself far to quickly and gets tired without the inhibitor rings [which is seen in season 3 of sonic x when he doesnt have the inhibitor rings and gets super tired after every battle], and he can take them off at will [as seen in sonic 06 when he popped them off and blitz through a army of mephilses]

  • @ProudOrbit217
    @ProudOrbit217 หลายเดือนก่อน +150

    Shadow really has some of the most unique character growth
    Love to see it.

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @colekleijnen2060
      @colekleijnen2060 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      As long as you ignore the 2010s

  • @Im_Ice_Cream_808
    @Im_Ice_Cream_808 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The reason why Shadow wears the inhibitor rings is because he can't handle the chaos energy throughout his body otherwise he use too much energy for him to use.

  • @SpongeBobFanatic2K6
    @SpongeBobFanatic2K6 หลายเดือนก่อน +608

    At least he’s not like that other Genie whose Jordans are completely fake, has absolutely no maidens, and hasn’t even thought about buying Spotify Premium.

    • @devilrawr
      @devilrawr หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      reference

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @FoxyPercival714
      @FoxyPercival714 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Kazam is awesome.

    • @CMJ321
      @CMJ321 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love that meme

    • @Miksy51
      @Miksy51 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      6:34
      Also My boi Hoopa mentioned AAAaaaAAAAa!!!
      ^v^

  • @wilwix_stoleyourman
    @wilwix_stoleyourman หลายเดือนก่อน +4772

    I miss my wife Tom.

    • @Artistic_Dumbass
      @Artistic_Dumbass หลายเดือนก่อน +284

      Ill be back

    • @soap_cat
      @soap_cat หลายเดือนก่อน +111

      The way I screamed w happiness

    • @JustAFantasy2015
      @JustAFantasy2015 หลายเดือนก่อน +133

      I’ve come to make sn announcement

    • @Maximum05
      @Maximum05 หลายเดือนก่อน +117

      I miss her alot

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

  • @DazzlingNishi
    @DazzlingNishi 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    i almost started crying at the end. also, the moment you said shadow was an alien i instantly went "oh yea obviously the aliens ARE the genies that's the most logical conclusion"

  • @LocalGiganfan1980
    @LocalGiganfan1980 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    I think Game theory is starting to go insane.
    MatPat really was like. “Just go nuts with it guys just go nuts with it!”

  • @Spazzboy911
    @Spazzboy911 หลายเดือนก่อน +174

    "Technically it was the genie of the ring"
    You do know that both Sonic and Shadow pick up rings, right? You didn't draw that parallel?

    • @justinpritt7897
      @justinpritt7897 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Sonic also has a ring on his finger in sonic and the secret rings who is a master to a genie.

    • @nightshed3693
      @nightshed3693 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wanna call out that Amy also has rings too 🤣

  • @jamesmartin6050
    @jamesmartin6050 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    14:05 - genie aliens

  • @inciniratr8445
    @inciniratr8445 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

    SECRET RINGS WAS NOT BROUGHT UP ONCE 💀

    • @bryandacote8109
      @bryandacote8109 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Shows how much research this channel does

  • @AbdulAhad-hm1xd
    @AbdulAhad-hm1xd หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    The reason he has the rings on is because well yeah it limits him but if he took them it could be really dangerous for him that's why still has them

  • @speedking_gaming
    @speedking_gaming หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Man, shadow being a genie like the one from Aladdin and the Arabian Nights, it's not like there's a sonic Wii game where sonic gets sucked into that exact same book, teaming up with a genie and collecting 7 magic rings...wait?

  • @avarisu6280
    @avarisu6280 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    "I will grant you one wish"
    -Does something that technically fulfills the wish but no one is happy with, especially the wisher
    Yeah he's definitely a genie.

  • @ac_aces1657
    @ac_aces1657 หลายเดือนก่อน +111

    It's only been 6 months, and Tom has already lost it 😂

    • @MrGavoToYou
      @MrGavoToYou หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I didn’t think he’d last this long

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      He been working for Matt for a while. He probably just had his ideas locked away. Once he was the new host. His mind escaped and now is going nuts.

    • @raptorzeraora2632
      @raptorzeraora2632 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      6 months?!

  • @royalrainboo6940
    @royalrainboo6940 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Shadow was also a robot, just like Gregory who is also Dave the crying child who owns a stripped shirt like Ness who we all know is Sans...

  • @Micolino9878
    @Micolino9878 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    One would think Sonic and the Secret Rings, the game that has the most clear cut genie in the franchise, would make an appearance in this discussion.

    • @zm2mad9
      @zm2mad9 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      There's also Iblis from sonic 06, a character named from a particularly infamous jinn in Islam who serves as basically a Satan analogue

    • @TheDark4light
      @TheDark4light หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Was the first thing I thought of. I figured "okay, if he uses that along with the inhibitor rings then maybe." As it stands? Nope.

    • @redschafer7804
      @redschafer7804 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ya but Shadow wasn't in that game so it doesn't make any sense for this theory. i mean even using the sonic riders game is a reach

    • @phxrebirth
      @phxrebirth หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention there's also a genie that's a penultimate final boss in Sonic Riders

    • @Micolino9878
      @Micolino9878 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@phxrebirth That one WAS mentioned.

  • @okami_ez
    @okami_ez หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    ok it doesn't really imply that Shadow is a Genie, it just implies that Shadow has the same backstory as the Genie BUT THAT DOES NOT MAKE SHADOW A GENIE

  • @blitsriderfield4099
    @blitsriderfield4099 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The inhibitor rings aren't to "symbolize his servitude" or whatever that nonsense was. They keep him from exploding because his body cant contain that much power properly

  • @sirparker2881
    @sirparker2881 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    He didn’t even acknowledge Sonic and the Secret Rings, an ENTIRE GAME BASED UPON THE ARABIAN NIGHTS STORY. They definitely researched that and since they took it nowhere, they made a mainline game off of it to not waste their research.

  • @andyshirer610
    @andyshirer610 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    I can't believe that not once during the entire video where he goes on about the Arabian nights, Tom not once mentions "Sonic and the Secret Rings" which has sonic go into the actual book.

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed หลายเดือนก่อน

      is Sonic and the Secret Rings have something to do with shadow or even the babylon ?

    • @Darth_Spyro
      @Darth_Spyro หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@JeremyKent-td8ed Nope. Which is why he didn't mention them. They're not at all relevant to the theory 😂

    • @JeremyKent-td8ed
      @JeremyKent-td8ed หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Darth_Spyro Yeah that why im just Wondering why they ask about it XD

    • @oojclops7257
      @oojclops7257 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@Darth_Spyro I'd argue it's good supporting evidence how the sonic series continuously draws inspiration from Arabic legends, showing how it isn't a stretch in logic that the Babylonians are related to genies

    • @torii1514
      @torii1514 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They probably didn’t mention it because the Shadow in the Story isn’t “really shadow” he’s just playing as a known historic figure in that game. Following the plot of that story has nothing to do with the Canon Story of Shadow.

  • @LimePlaysgames-Lime
    @LimePlaysgames-Lime หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shadow is a genie.
    Erazor jinn "am i a joke to you" Lol

  • @hutothetao
    @hutothetao หลายเดือนก่อน +198

    Well he’s finally lost it. Didn’t manage to outlast matpat

    • @karmaslyrics
      @karmaslyrics หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nah. Not convinced

  • @kevinstothers3189
    @kevinstothers3189 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    The little editor note told me to say, "Tom is a lil' crazy guy!" and I can not disobey that sassy little cartoon in the corner of these videos.

    • @thehansboi
      @thehansboi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Where's that btw?

    • @kevinstothers3189
      @kevinstothers3189 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thehansboi Near the start of the video when Tom is insisting that he's not crazy.

  • @michaelcarlton1484
    @michaelcarlton1484 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The only genies are the ones in Secret Rings and the ones that the Babylon Rogues are descended from.
    The Black Arms have nothing to do with either group.

  • @Tomfoolery_man99
    @Tomfoolery_man99 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    :( 3:04 why bro

    • @Lhebog
      @Lhebog หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      he's not wrong tho

    • @Tomfoolery_man99
      @Tomfoolery_man99 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@Lhebog Ik 😭

    • @UrLoPi02
      @UrLoPi02 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Because

    • @ImigcoboTunyiswa
      @ImigcoboTunyiswa หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      WWWHHHHOOOOOAAAAA WWWWHHHHHOOOOOOOOAAAAAA WWHHOOAA
      TOM WATCH WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT 🫢

    • @rafsylgamer2
      @rafsylgamer2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Bro caught lackin 😭🙏

  • @SarahAbramova
    @SarahAbramova หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Hey, Tom, I know you probably skipped it, because it's Sonic 06, but Shadow can actually take those rings off himself.

  • @PokeMageTech
    @PokeMageTech 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    12:34 - hold up. I’m sorry. What? You’re saying earthquakes cause electrical changes in the earth?!

  • @codeprimeproductions6603
    @codeprimeproductions6603 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    7:41 This line is miss translated. In the original Japanese version he says "I shall grant you your wish." and it was mistranslated in the American version. Because of this it is more unlikely that you can relate the genie theory to this one line.

  • @RanTheGreat2000s
    @RanTheGreat2000s หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    1:35 Bro's turning into Matpat

    • @MrGavoToYou
      @MrGavoToYou หลายเดือนก่อน

      🍩

    • @duel-chip5
      @duel-chip5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I knew that from the start

    • @Z3pH4x
      @Z3pH4x หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      HES STARTING TO GO INSANE

  • @MarwanHadidi
    @MarwanHadidi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    13:54 the angel winged boy looks too human to be shadow even in the other drawing 14:50
    Also for this one 15:46 , lore-wise it's because he gets tired if he uses his power without them (like in Sonic X season 3 when he tried destroying a ship)

  • @winnerthecoolguy2009
    @winnerthecoolguy2009 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Why'd they do Maria so dirty 3:28 😭

  • @TruBluAnims
    @TruBluAnims หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    16:07 The reason why Shadow wears inhibitors is because he'd die without them, the Chaos Energy is so immense that it strains his body. Like a Kaio-Ken of sorts.

    • @not_MAK9
      @not_MAK9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thats what i thought

  • @simonkifle-no7sr
    @simonkifle-no7sr 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    the way they made a concept a genie but somehow twisted it to a different character is so confusing

  • @50percentGrey
    @50percentGrey หลายเดือนก่อน +87

    Amy Rose has gold bracelets and yet she's able to summon a giant mallet at will. Is she also a "genie"? She's always wanting to be with Sonic, like she wants to grant him a big wish. Right?

    • @juliemesser2053
      @juliemesser2053 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Now this is something!

    • @haydenbutler37
      @haydenbutler37 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      She can also go invisible in 06

    • @gutembergnery7985
      @gutembergnery7985 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Let's also not forget she can summon cards around her and ride her broom like a freaking which in Frontiers!

  • @ultrazackgaming7461
    @ultrazackgaming7461 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    17:58 , I would love to see sonic unleashed get a remake

    • @raptorzeraora2632
      @raptorzeraora2632 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Doesnt need one, just needs a port

  • @ZsomTendo_Uzumaki
    @ZsomTendo_Uzumaki หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is Tom's "Grgory's a robot" theory

  • @YannickJur
    @YannickJur หลายเดือนก่อน +398

    When you think Sans is Ness was the most ridiculous thing Game Theory has ever proclaimed

    • @blindedjourneyman
      @blindedjourneyman หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Oh for sure! This one definitely takes the cake for weird and seemingly dim.

    • @AmazingEmerald
      @AmazingEmerald หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr

    • @tyukogames
      @tyukogames หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Nah, remeber gregory is a robot?

    • @AmazingEmerald
      @AmazingEmerald หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@tyukogames he was right though

    • @yousufkhurram9585
      @yousufkhurram9585 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@tyukogames well mat was right though lol

  • @ChaosStar27
    @ChaosStar27 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    16:13 No Tom, he's not
    don't think you remember but he wears the inhibitor rings to LIMIT his powers. He does this cause he wants to.
    Also the Babalonians are SO much different than the Black Arms.
    Babalonians can grant wishes and The Black Arms can't
    Then you might ask "how is Shadow Able to possess the Doom Powers?" Because He's part alien Duh.
    He has Black Arms blood in his veins and these egg like things are only activating his Black Arms abilities cause he hasn't done so yet.
    With Shadow being Black Arms, he should be able to use these abilities due to his blood.
    He's using them as his own in order to destroy Doom.
    Tom, Buddy, you need to actually do your research before theorizing.

    • @forrestfyre7846
      @forrestfyre7846 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      1. Absolutely agree with you
      2. This is the same thing that happened with UT/DT and MatPat where there was zero research done
      3. Shadow actually wears the Chaos Inhibitors so he doesn't die from overexertion. The more ya know

    • @bryandacote8109
      @bryandacote8109 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Game Theory actually do research anymore? Forget it. These videos years ago became about shock value entertainment for kids and teenagers.

    • @ArtskyAnimation
      @ArtskyAnimation หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bro cooked w this comment

    • @garethharriott9582
      @garethharriott9582 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You literally said theorizing, my gee, it's not that deep, don't take this channel seriously, it's mostly for fun

  • @Snowmanperson
    @Snowmanperson 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Once i heard tom say "shadow is a genie!" I thought "maybe eggman released shadow and shadow told eggman "i will grant you a wish for releasing me"
    And i was right

  • @Gogs-mf8do
    @Gogs-mf8do หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Cool parallels, but the Genie stuff really ends there. The Black Arms not only are really different from the Babylonians (one being a parasite species that consumes planets while the other being a highly advanced dimension hopping race), the wings part really fall flat when you realize they were just talking about the Magic carpet/Extreme gear, the giving wings isn't literal, it's being given the power of flying. Plus Black Doom's design is way more going for Satan then a genie.
    Like I said before, cool parallels but that's kinda it.

  • @ChibamiKarim
    @ChibamiKarim หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Bro we really got a sans is ness 2.0 like WHAT? Btw 5:10 is a HUGE stretch

  • @Kiezly
    @Kiezly หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    “Hopefully he doesn’t become a werehog, nobody wants to see that again.” Umm dude? The werehog is awesome, and a shadow werehog mod for sonic unleashed exists and it looks cool. What’s with the hate towards the sonic universe’s equivalent to dragon ball Z’s Great Ape forms? It’s awesome.

  • @tyrant-den884
    @tyrant-den884 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Seems like if Shadow was a genie it would have come up in Secret Rings

  • @BlungesBOAH
    @BlungesBOAH หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    0:19 SINCE WHEN IS DANTE AN ANTI-HERO, DID I MISS SOME CRUCIAL LORE?

    • @Mister_Shoe
      @Mister_Shoe หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I don't think GT knows their DMC

    • @Otherguy1
      @Otherguy1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They just saying he's cool

    • @Solopetelo-ev5kw
      @Solopetelo-ev5kw หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He technically was an anti hero in dmc 3. And the designers were intending to make him look like an anti hero. But since then he's definitely become a hero

    • @Bill_Door123
      @Bill_Door123 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Geralt isn't an antihero either

    • @pimi8522
      @pimi8522 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Anti hero’s definition means a hero that doesn’t exhibit the characteristics of a normal hero. A kind, courageous figure like most protagonists. Being a little edgy or rougher is enough to be technically identified as an anti hero

  • @SpeedBird6780
    @SpeedBird6780 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Artistic inspiration =/= character being that exact thing. Furthermore, fr: You mentioned that the original Arabian nights had the genie of the ring, yet did not mention Sonic & the Secret Rings at all. This indicates tunnel vision.

  • @knights4eva981
    @knights4eva981 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Beginning: "Yep, Tom's gone insane."
    End: "Of course he managed to convince me. He always manages to convince me..."

  • @Jintenzo
    @Jintenzo หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    3:05 His what

    • @wayverleesoulsong
      @wayverleesoulsong หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Oh you sweet summer child

    • @BradStarnes
      @BradStarnes หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He's not wrong.

    • @Jintenzo
      @Jintenzo หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BradStarnes I feel like there's context I'm missing here

    • @RealConnorMalone
      @RealConnorMalone หลายเดือนก่อน

      What does that mean?

    • @forrestfyre7846
      @forrestfyre7846 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@Jintenzo it's p*rn. He's making a joke about p*rn.

  • @safwaanmuhidin1157
    @safwaanmuhidin1157 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The purpose of Shadow's inhibitor rings isn't to protect those around him, but to safeguard himself. His immense power is difficult to control, which is why he requires the rings to manage it. Additionally, wouldn't it be more fitting to refer to Shadow as a devil? Many stories depict devils as granting people's desires in exchange for their soul or chaos.

  • @MrLightDarkness
    @MrLightDarkness หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    Uh oh, we’re already mistaking narrative subtext for actual lore.

    • @WhatTheCheick
      @WhatTheCheick หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      To be honest while I do think the same, I think that he's not inherently wrong, like Shadow isn't literally a genie, but all the analysis makes sense in a regard
      I was skeptical until the second half
      The proposed lore isn't actually much more than just that subtext

  • @froakachu8077
    @froakachu8077 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    A Sonic the Hedgehog theory about Genies that doesn't even mention Sonic and the Secret Rings is just cursed

    • @the-strange-one
      @the-strange-one หลายเดือนก่อน

      *coughs* or kingdom hearts *cough*

    • @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy
      @TheDeepThinker-sq3iy หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not exactly a sonic fan or anything, but what does kh have to do with anything with sonic? Was there a crossover I wasn't aware of, or something? Lol.

    • @the-strange-one
      @the-strange-one หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy its bc the commenter has the kh logo as their pfp so i said what i commented to be funny lol (sorry for the confusion lol)

  • @kaykat0134
    @kaykat0134 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am so happy that there's finally a Sonic theory going in depth about the interesting lore and not just science taking a dump on my boy!

  • @ItsChevnotJeff
    @ItsChevnotJeff หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Man, I hate it when my genie leaks my sensitive information online, urinates on my significant other, and just be a general nuisance about it

    • @3koboldsinatrenchcoat343
      @3koboldsinatrenchcoat343 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh my god so relatable it’s so annoying when they do that

  • @EDCOR3FNAF
    @EDCOR3FNAF หลายเดือนก่อน +79

    ngl I think that shadow is probably the best in Sonic prime. Mean, but also has character development. Hopefully the movie lives up to the trailer.

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.😊😊😊

    • @JudaBoi
      @JudaBoi หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Shadows definitely the best in archie

    • @CaptainF123
      @CaptainF123 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think so far he peaked in 06

    • @williamnduka1026
      @williamnduka1026 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JudaBoisonic universe did wonders for his character

    • @diegobanos6190
      @diegobanos6190 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "I just love latinas, Sonic"

  • @alexwalker5716
    @alexwalker5716 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    ya know what? I'll give him this one.
    Shadow's probably not a literal genie, but thematically he's got basically everything you need for a genie besides a bottle to be trapped in. and the whole "canonical genie aliens" thing is something I didn't know about.
    well played, Tom.

  • @Son-of-Gondor
    @Son-of-Gondor หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I can’t believe he just badmouthed Sonic Unleashed. That game was amazing!

    • @UnknownAccount______
      @UnknownAccount______ หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Loved it as a girl and heck, even the animations/shorts for SU were nice.

    • @lunashasarts
      @lunashasarts หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Frrr, the Werehog is the goat

  • @rayleenay
    @rayleenay หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    0:42 me anytime someone randomly puts the big light on

  • @hbogye
    @hbogye หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the reason why shadow wears these inhibitor rings is that he has chaos energy flowing through him because he is made using chaos energy, so if he removes them all of the chaos energy goes full power and becomes unstable so the inhibitor rings are not slavery for a wish, not for fashion, but for stability

  • @sikosonix901
    @sikosonix901 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Love the video, but I do want to correct one fact. There is a reason Gerald put those inhibitor rings on him. It was to limit his powers, but it was also for his own sake. Like you said, Gerald needed Black Doom's DNA to do this, but with that came an immense amount of power. Shadow cannot control all of that doom and chaos energy inside him, that's why he has the inhibitor rings. If he takes them of, it's very exhausting to use chaos energy. In Sonic X we see that he tires out extremely fast when fighting without chaos energy. They're not there to limit him, but protect him.

  • @khythedestroyer
    @khythedestroyer หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    We're just not going to mention the Sonic Arabian Nights game, Sonic and the Secret Rings?

  • @KaraMooMoo
    @KaraMooMoo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been over a year since I watched a video and I love all the videos on non-horror games.
    I know they get less views but I still appreciate them. 💜

  • @elecsnake4888
    @elecsnake4888 หลายเดือนก่อน +75

    these just keep getting weirder. next thing you know, fredddy fazbear is a god

    • @alphaa2010
      @alphaa2010 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tom inspires me. My parents said if i get 100k followers They'd buy me a professional camera for recording. begging u guys, literally Begging.🎉❤❤😊😊

    • @gtothem1850
      @gtothem1850 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      You mean he isn't?

    • @Youngertaker
      @Youngertaker หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      No, Bonnie is a god, we know because, according to Scott, he defy’s all rules of our universe

    • @dr.drizzy2
      @dr.drizzy2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You can thank Matt for setting him up to go nuts.

    • @rainpooper7088
      @rainpooper7088 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @Youngertaker
      Bonnie uses Chaos Control to warp around Freddy's Pizzeria and Foxy is Tails Doll's long-lost cousin

  • @ninuji69
    @ninuji69 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    10:15 that voicecrack was diabolical

    • @Racoon_Leaf
      @Racoon_Leaf หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      "Doesn't tAEChnially stop him"🪑🪑🪑🪑

  • @BenjaminBroom-n4r
    @BenjaminBroom-n4r หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    7:09 well you do know that they inhibit his power for his own good as he just dies without them

  • @maddoxreddish4352
    @maddoxreddish4352 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    The inhibitor rings are so shadow doesnt overexert himself and he can remove them whenever he wants, theyre just so he doesnt get tired after using like 3 attacks, in sonic x he had to take off the rings to fight knuckles and was tired out from a apindash and other fights before he got the rings back

    • @AndyBanandy10
      @AndyBanandy10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm surprised they didn't even mention Sonic X in this video

  • @idkthidwmfl_lizok
    @idkthidwmfl_lizok หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Okay, tell me why did I open this video thinking "If you told me Shadow is Jesus I would instantly agree, but genie?? I need an explanation right now."

    • @octonine6212
      @octonine6212 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      of course Shadow couldn't be Jesus... Knuckles already is.

    • @amitsrivastava1236
      @amitsrivastava1236 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wait if knuckles is Jesus
      does that mean knuckles
      enemy is satan. wait ...
      knuckles hates Egg-man
      EGG-MAN IS SATAN

    • @idkthidwmfl_lizok
      @idkthidwmfl_lizok หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@octonine6212 oh god, now THAT is something I've never heard before haha, how is Knuckles Jesus??

    • @AnnStyle
      @AnnStyle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @idkthidwmfl_lizok4704 I mean he did rise from the dead

    • @idkthidwmfl_lizok
      @idkthidwmfl_lizok หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AnnStyle oh!.. yeahhh I get it, I get it, haha

  • @Kazdow
    @Kazdow หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    3:05 his WHAT?!😭

    • @HexonovalYT
      @HexonovalYT หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rule 34 treasure stealing allie

    • @HexonovalYT
      @HexonovalYT หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rule 34 treasure stealing allie

  • @matthewtheking8989
    @matthewtheking8989 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Bro shadow in the sonic 3 movie is gonna SLAP

  • @francescoleone5517
    @francescoleone5517 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Shadow still hates 8 year olds tails

    • @justaperson4656
      @justaperson4656 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      A tradition of beating tails that continues with the movie 🥰

  • @not_nyxxy
    @not_nyxxy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “He’s just like Sonic but better” yea he is

  • @CAPTAIN_CUCUMBER
    @CAPTAIN_CUCUMBER หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    0:48 EDGE1!!1!11!!1!11!1!!1!

  • @WhatTheCheick
    @WhatTheCheick หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The metaphors/analogues of this video are really good, I don't think Shadow was ever meant to literally be a genie, (I'm pretty sure SA2 was made as if it were potentially the last Sonic game) (actually, watching the whole theory, I'm a little more convinced), but the idea of Shadow being bound by his "masters" wishes is actually very symbolic as Gerald altered his memories for the sake of revenge
    But also Shadow probably wears his rings so he doesn't like, explode or something

  • @kindalllowder3595
    @kindalllowder3595 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok, this is a really interesting theory, but you are forgetting something. The myth from the Babylonians from Sonic Riders came from a prehistoric era of sonic mythos. Shadow's story came only 50 years ago. Also, the genie that was shown in sonic riders was actually a robot made by the babylonians to scare off intruders.

  • @kuhluhOG
    @kuhluhOG หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    6:22 The usage of Magi characters is appreciated.

  • @devinsauls9137
    @devinsauls9137 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    All this over one out of context like in Sonic Adventure 2? 😂 7:28

  • @ParadoxProblems
    @ParadoxProblems หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This isn't genie "inspiration" any more than Mewtwo's origin is genie inspiration.

  • @itsme2335
    @itsme2335 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I would love a mod for Sonic and the Secret Rings that switch’s Sharah’s voice lines with Shadow

  • @sonicjax
    @sonicjax หลายเดือนก่อน +144

    Like how MatPat thinks Gregory is a robot, Tom thinks shadow is a genie💀

    • @shadetee234
      @shadetee234 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      And how Matt thought sans was ness

    • @masedaace5473
      @masedaace5473 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@sonicjax and yet somehow the Gregory Robot thing is more believable.

    • @Wattson19
      @Wattson19 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@shadetee234 He never really believed this, that theory was more of a suggestion than anything

    • @maddoxreddish4352
      @maddoxreddish4352 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i mean matpat predicted the future with that one with the mimic pretending to be gregory

  • @mickeyd343
    @mickeyd343 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sonic and the Seven Rings would have been a better game if Shadow was the Erazor Djinn.

  • @stevenlovci1433
    @stevenlovci1433 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Tom is losing his sanity much faster than mat did.

  • @KnightsOfCamelore
    @KnightsOfCamelore หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    There is also a Sonic the Hedgehog game inspired by 1,001 Arabian Nights called “Sonic and the Secret Rings”.

  • @maddoxreddish4352
    @maddoxreddish4352 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    tbh a game theory saying "shadow is mewtwo" would honestly make more sense than this, shadow and mewtwo are meant to be something like an ultimate lifeform, their dna came from another species, a scientist wanted to save a young girl who he was related to, the girl was kept isolated from the world to keep her safe, the girl dies, they both try to destroy humanity but a being with matching power stops them and gets them to realize destroying the earth wouldnt be a cool idea

  • @sandjgaez257
    @sandjgaez257 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Tom, please, you’ve just started. It’s too soon for your “Sans is Ness” arc!